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The article was promoted by Gog the Mild via FACBot (talk) 4 November 2024 [1].

2003–04 Gillingham F.C. season

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Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:59, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there! Did you read and enjoy my last FAC nomination, all about when Gillingham F.C. achieved their highest ever finish in English football? Well, read this one and see how the wheels began to fall off almost immediately! This one's got it all - mobs taking to the streets to protest the colour of the players' shirts, the team going through goalkeepers like they were going out of fashion, the manager getting ejected by the referee and (almost certainly just to make a point) immediately entering the game as a player, a goalkeeper suffering a career-ending injury after managing to collide with the other team's goalkeeper, and a streaker! Feedback as ever will be most gratefully received and swiftly acted upon -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:59, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Eem dik doun in toene

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  • In the infobox, Agyemang is said to have been the club's sole top goal scorer in the league with 6, but in the players table, Spiller and Shaw are also shown with 6 goals.
  • For consistency, I would put something like (pictured in ...) in the text under all five photos in the article.
  • "after an error by Brown" ==> Jason or Wayne Brown?
  • I made two small corrections in the article.
  • That's it from me. Excellent read! Eem dik doun in toene (talk) 14:51, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Eem dik doun in toene: - thanks for your review, all addressed! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SC

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Putting down a marker for now. - SchroCat (talk) 10:32, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • "league table, only two positions above the bottom three places in the 24-team league table": duplicate links
  • "More than 20 years later": probably best to say that "As at 2024"

Just two points from me, both minor. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 11:14, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NØ

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  • I usually focus on grammar/comma issues and everything seems to be alright with regards to that in this article. It is a support from me. Great work!
  • The images are all correctly licensed with alt texts so the image review passes as well.--NØ 19:36, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review: pass

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To follow - SchroCat (talk) 08:47, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm not sure about linking the publishing locations in the Works cited section. Links are supposed to "increase readers' understanding of the topic at hand", and linking Nottingham, Durrington and Stroud doesn't achieve that aim. I'd also suggest the same for publisher names, as these are also fairly useless in giving readers an understanding of the Gillingham season.
  • Check the capitalisation on article titles, which goes awry in places. Most are in sentence case, but for some (FNs 3, 6 and 127) caps have sneaked in there
  • Formatting all OK aside from that.
  • Searches have shown no obvious gaps in the sourcing, and the ones used are appropriate
  • The newspaper sources are used properly and within reason.

That's my lot. - SchroCat (talk) 16:45, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SchroCat: - all done, I think. Thanks for your review! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good stuff: this is a pass on the sources. - SchroCat (talk) 17:12, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TRM

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Back with a bite. Small start on comments, please ping me as I'm only around sporadically right now!

  • "league season were inconsistent; a run of four consecutive defeats in September and October left the team in 20th place in the First Division league table, only two positions above the bottom three places in the 24-team league table" how many "league" mentions? And double table?
  • "The team's final two games of 2003 both resulted in victories," bit fluffy/passive, repetitive: "The team won their final two games of 2003"...
  • "first time Gillingham had won two consecutive league games during the season, leaving them 15th at the end of the calendar year" perhaps me being subserviant to our American superiors, but do normal readers know that our football season doesn't run per the calendar year?
  • "slightly superior" probably remove "slightly".
  • "two knock-out tournaments" does anyone in the UK ever refer to cup competitions as "knock-out tournaments"? Perhaps stick with British English and link accordingly. I know this will rile up some of the yanks but hey-ho.
  • "defeated Charlton Athletic of the top-tier FA Premier League in the third round before being eliminated in the fourth round." by whom? Someone useless?
  • "eliminated in the fourth round. They were eliminated .... in the third round" jarring repetition.
  • "Gillingham played 51 competitive matches..." You mean "During the 2003-04 season, Gillingham played 51 competitive matches..." start a new para or something here.
  • "for a league" surely "for *the* league*"?
  • Where are home/away colours referenced?
  • " 2003–04 season was Gillingham's 72nd season " season ... season
  • Finding it hard to sequence the first and second sentence of "Background and pre-season"... Maybe it needs some filler to say how the club went from re-election to the 1999/2000 season playoffs?
  • "finished in 13th place.[5] The following season, they bettered this performance, finishing in 12th place,[6] and in the 2002–03 season they finished 11th,[" season ... finished ... season ... finished ... season ... finished. Not brilliant prose for me.
  • "Andy Hessenthaler was the team's" probably need to reiterate this season.
  • "since 2000.[10] Wayne Jones held the post of coach.[11] merge?
  • "the club's promotion in" don't we relink once into the main body?
  • "decision.[22][21] " ref order.
  • "Significant redevelopment took place..." looks better as a new para after all the disquiet about kit.
  • "As of 2024, the new stand has never been" -> maybe "As of November 2024, the new stand has not been...."
    • The ref isn't specifically from November (not least because we are still in October! :-) )
  • "who were in 24th place in the table " most of our yank friends won't know this means dead last.
  • "which left them in 16th place " who is them?
  • "victory, the team's first victory" repetitive.
  • "was broadcast live by Sky Sports" this is insignificant to almost everyone who doesn't support a shit team.... I know it.
  • "past Bertrand Bossu" maybe make it clear he was the goalkeeper?
  • "just five minutes" bit emotive.
  • "final minute and the game finished 2–2.[64] Gillingham beat Stoke City 3–1 in the final game " not in the same context, but final and game repeated here, making for lacklustre flow in the prose.

That's enough for me for now, been a while since I've been here, done this. Happy to continue now the dreadful "oversight" from genuine non-English speakers has dissipated to a degree, let me know if/when you'd like more on the remainder of the article. The Rambling Man (Been a while, I know......) 22:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Continuing...

  • "promotion-chasing" technically isn't every team promotion-chasing? It just has a feel of journalistic overtones, maybe note what position the Blades were in, or recent form, and let the readers make up their own minds.
  • "game of February;[79] the game " game game.
  • programme - have you linked matchday programme?
  • "with in a long time" can you "quote" this as this statement is very vague.
  • "first appearance in the starting line-up since November.[81] In the same game Brown made his first appearance" first appearance first appearance.
  • "The team ended the month" last team mentioned was Spurs.
  • "12 professionals available" this might be a complex situation for non-Brits to handle, that there's a difference between youth team players not being fully professional and first-team players, in general, being fully pro. Is there a way to cover off the standard non-expert response to this?
  • "the result left them in 21st" last team mentioned was West Brom.
  • "conceded three goals ... but then conceded" conceded conceded.
  • "Stoke's manager, had" shouldn't manager have been linked a few sections back?
  • Bradford and Sunderland are A.F.C., not F.C. but redirects aren't prohibited....
  • "before the half-time interval" probably could add who scored here.
  • "scored an early goal, Gillingham scored" scored scored.
  • "The random draw" is random needed here?
    • People commented in multiple earlier FACs that it was needed, otherwise people not as au fait with British football would think the FA Cup had a pre-determined draw for the whole competition like Wimbledon -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "they played well in the second half" according to...?
  • Ref 112: p. 621, 623. should be pp.

That's it for now! The Rambling Man (Been a while, I know......) 22:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: - thanks for this thorough review. Everything in the second chunk addressed other than where noted -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: - thank you, sir :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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