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National Tom Sawyer Days

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Lizthegrey (talk) 21:41, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

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Seems to be something I may like to visit in Hannibal, Missouri. events include: Tom Sawyer Fence Painting contest and the "Frog long jump". I see RS for it and it appears in many books. Does this meet WP:EVENT? The article needs work and that is why I bring it here. Lightburst (talk) 13:15, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

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I am trying to get this one through DYK at the moment and the question is about the previous stat of the article and number of characters which go toward 5x expansion. Lightburst (talk) 21:05, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Also withdrawn. Seems the formula for counting a 5x expansion was not met. Lightburst (talk) 23:35, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Salhate Djamalidine

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Subject is apparently the greatest athlete from the Comoros and the holder of three national records. Sourcing is weak. An ability to search French language sources may find significant coverage of this female track athlete. Improvements are needed urgently, as the article is at WP:AFD CT55555(talk) 00:18, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

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Cork Caucus

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The result was keep. Randykitty

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Held in Cork, Ireland in 2005. The article is is bad shape and fully tagged. I think a rewrite may be in order. nowhere in the article do we learn where this festival was held. The article needs to focus on the details of what this was. I see Cork Caucus repeated in multiple books. Lightburst (talk) 15:03, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

SIGCOV is hard to come by. Could use some rescue detectives. At least we could describe this event accurately. Lightburst (talk) 00:42, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
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Hunter Payton

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The result was delete. User:Liz

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The actor seems to have awards. Better search term might be Hunter Payton Mendoza. Might pass NACTOR with work in Criminal Minds? Or his other work. Was a child actor. Lightburst (talk) 15:37, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

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Mizraab

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The result was delete. Seraphimblade

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A major rock band article is up for deletion. 2400:ADC1:468:400:7DD6:C651:21F1:A243 (talk) 08:49, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Its a progressive rock and metal band from Pakistan. What qualifies as a gold record in that nation? If it meets that, it passes the subject specific guideline for bands. WP:BAND Dream Focus 15:31, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
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Kendall Harmon

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The result was no consensus. Originally unsourced, the article benefited from the added attention during the discussion and is now referenced. The subject's notability was challenged for lack of independent sourcing, and this became the dominant thread of the discussion. Although developed at some length, I don't think that consensus was reached on that point. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 17:34, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

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A priest who has authored some material and gets discussed in a variety of sources. Just google or book search "Kendall Harmon homosexuality" and you find The Guardian. The Christian Science Monitor and many others. it is a tough row to ho because it already has a slew of delete ivoters. Maybe they did not thoroughly search? Lightburst (talk) 19:08, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

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Joel Hardin

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The result was keep. Randykitty

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Former US Border patrol now a tracker, has a mention an obit in the New York Times. Then there is this. Lightburst (talk) 21:09, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

A quick search on the Wikipedia library finds sources that I've used to improve the article (and also gave me enough to feel confident voting too). CT55555(talk) 21:59, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
You did some good work there. Lightburst (talk) 23:10, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. @Bruxton actually added the most content. CT55555(talk) 23:12, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
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List of fastest-selling products

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The result was delete. user:Eddie891

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This article looks like it could be saved if someone wants to work on it. Got some valid content in it. Dream Focus 19:10, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

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Hugh Bulkeley

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 14:49, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

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Is this 17th century poet of note? Lightburst (talk) 22:29, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

I came up empty. Lightburst (talk) 02:07, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
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Soul Arabia

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion") User:Liz 23:28, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

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See what you can find about this magazine. Lightburst (talk) 22:29, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

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Hap Palmer

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The result was no consensus. Black Kite (talk)

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Children's musician Article does not establish notability, but artist was very notable in the 1970's and 1980's Lack of recent coverage makes finding internet sources hard. His work is sold on the Smithsonian Folkways label and Worldcat has almost a thousand listings--T1980 (talk) 21:53, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

His cassette or video cassette are suggested to help a child with a problem at https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1992/06/11/fears-of-a-4-year-old/93c7af86-64d5-44a7-817d-1e544175729a/ Might be more mentions it by name elsewhere. https://folkways.si.edu/catalog list other songs of his. In 1988 the Smithsonian Institution Center for Folklife and Cultural Heritage in Washington, D.C., acquired Folkways Records & Service Corp. Not sure if listed there means anything. Dream Focus 01:21, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
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Ted Jorgensen

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The result was keep. While multiple editors felt NOTINHERITED applied, consensus was reached that this article meets the GNG. If desired, merge/redirect discussions may continue at the talk page. User:Xymmax 02:20, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ted Jorgensen

I could do with help trying to expand the unicycling part of this article. He is notable for family connections (he is Jeff Bezos's biological father) and had a unicycling career that was making news in 1961, 1962 and 1963, but some editors don't think the 1960's part is important enough to avoid deleting this article, based on WP:1E. So I could do with help from editors who have skills in finding 1960's newspapers published in Albuquerque, New Mexico CT55555(talk) 23:43, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

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Olgaon

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The result was Keep The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Bruxton (talk) 12:42, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

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Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

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Turn It Gold

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REDIRECT
The result was redirect to Hesta Prynn#Turn It Gold. User:Star Mississippi 18:07, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

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Not sure of this is notable, but the rationale portends a WP:SKCRIT Lightburst (talk) 01:28, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

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Lewis E. Hollander Jr.

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The result was delete. User:Explicit

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Appears to be notable and needs TNT, but if we do not rescue deletion will occur. Lightburst (talk) 13:52, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

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Scottish Waterways Trust

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The result was Keep The result was keep WP:SNOW‎ . (non-admin closure) Bruxton (talk) 02:40, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

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Not sure what we can do with this one, but the fact that the ivote was extended two days ago must mean that something in the article needs to be addressed. Lightburst (talk) 13:59, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

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IOS version history 2nd nom

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The result was Keep The result is keep, it is a WP:SNOW keep. The previous AfD was 12 years ago and finished with a WP:SNOW keep.‎ . Bruxton (talk) 02:48, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

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Notable for iPhone users Lightburst (talk) 14:03, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

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Jun Kazama

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MERGE
The result was merge‎ to List of Tekken characters#Jun Kazama/Unknown. User talk:Czar 00:49, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

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This is in AFD with only one day left. More coverage was added recently by another editor and myself. Surely, this can be saved? MoonJet (talk) 23:03, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

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Google Chrome version history

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The result was delete‎ . I would like to remind people reviewing this close that this is a policy-based discussion, not a vote. I gave zero weight to arguments that were some form of ITSUSEFUL, LIKEIT, what about foo / per other AfD, or INTERESTING. I also gave nearly zero weight to arguments based on NOTCHANGELOG shouldn't exist. If editors would like to change policy, they should open a RfC at WT:NOT.

After that, the discussion was over how to apply NOTCHANGELOG. In general, I didn't find arguments that because this article could be written in prose that it should be exempt from policy to be overly compelling since the argument encompasses every change log. The common sense part of policy does not exist as a get out of jail free card.

Based on this, I find a consensus to delete based on NOTCHANGELOG-based arguments. Several people pointed out that the article is a context-free list of monthly changes, just as policy speaks to. Guerillero Parlez Moi 19:19, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

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Notable web browser - is this a WP:NOTCHANGELOG issue? Prose usually solves this concern. Lightburst (talk) 14:12, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Now at deletion review. Wikipedia:DRV/U Lightburst (talk) 01:52, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
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Christopher W. Shaw

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The result was keep WP:SNOW‎ . (non-admin closure) Bruxton (talk) 02:36, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

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Christopher W. Shaw has been nominated for deletion. I believe he meets notability as an author. Any help with improving the article would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 14:47, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Now at WP:DRV. Lightburst (talk) 19:48, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
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Professional support lawyer

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The result was keep‎. Guerillero Parlez Moi 20:49, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

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Appears to be a notable topic. Can we save it? Lightburst (talk) 13:56, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

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Firefox version history 2nd nom

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The result was no consensus‎. In addition to the canvassed arguments making determination of consensus difficult at best, there is a fundamental disagreement on whether this is or is not a subject appropriate for an encyclopedia, with neither position having gained clear consensus. There does seem to be a general consensus that the current state of the article is quite suboptimal, so perhaps those who argue that the article can be improved to a clearly encyclopedic standard could work on doing so, and then a future discussion may be able to come to a clearer result. Seraphimblade Talk to me 19:01, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

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Notable web browser - is this a WP:NOTCHANGELOG issue? Lightburst (talk) 14:09, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Yes Firefox is a notable piece of software which has article this article we are dicussing firefox verison history is a changelog detailing the different changes with each new update. 1keyhole (talk) 16:53, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
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Eileen Díaz

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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure)‎ LibStar 23:44, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

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Also spelled Eileen Díaz. Competed in five events at the 96 Olympics. But additionally she may have other factors related to notability. I found this entry:

At Atlanta, was the 1st female gymnast to represent Puerto Rico at the Olympics and the youngest Puerto Rican Olympian in history (1996); placed 1st all-around at the Puerto Rican nationals (1997), 2nd for vault at the Pan American Games (1997), and 1st for uneven bars at Central American Games (1998). Lightburst (talk) 14:08, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

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Charles Upton (poet)

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The result was speedy keep, nomination withdrawn. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 11:40, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks to rescue efforts, the nomination has been withdrawn and the AfD closed. Not sure how to update this entry. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 11:20, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
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Giantology

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DELETE
The result was delete‎. Numerically, it's roughly 3:1:1 for delete / keep / merge or redirect. In terms of arguments, the "keep" side mostly makes arguments in the WP:ITSUSEFUL vein which is not a strong line of argument. Notably, nobody here cites reliable sources that substantially cover the topic of "giantology". Consequently, there is rough consensus to delete the article, but with the proviso that WP:REFUND may undelete it for draftification and a possible later selective merger, subject to editorial consensus about the material to be merged. Sandstein

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I came her approximately one year ago for help referencing and rewriting an article titled Doctor of Metaphysics. If you recall I started an article on Helen Hadsell and that led me to start an article on the degree. I was impressed with the ability of those here to ferret out details.
I have a similar task here with giantology. I started an article about Giant skeletons and that led me to the term giantology and giantologist which has been in use as a term and title for at least 150 years. I understand it is a fringey and hoaxey subject, but the article states that while attempting to maintain a NPOV. It may fit NFRNGE or NHOAX as a term and I believe we should cover the subject because I think it meets our notability guide with multiple reliable sources. Bruxton (talk) 18:16, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

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Humphrey's Restaurant & Tavern

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KEEP
The result was keep‎. There is consensus on keeping. Keepers provided evidence that GNG is met (and NTEMP), while the only delete voter (excluding nom, who nominated it before sources were provided by two other users) did not give any explanations. (non-admin closure) Timothytyy (talk) 04:29, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

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Defunct college bar that operated for four decades. Was in a movie One Night at McCool's. Lightburst (talk) 13:57, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

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Dede Robertson

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The result was keep‎. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 23:48, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

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Dede Robertson, the wife of Pat Robertson, has been nominated for deletion. I think her notability is pretty clear based upon her obituaries in The NY Times and Washington Post. Any help finding additional sources would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 18:47, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

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Throat-clear

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KEEP
The result was keep‎. signed, Rosguill talk 01:18, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

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There is so much we could add to this article. Lightburst (talk) 15:04, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

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Informatics Education

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The result was no consensus‎. Three relists and insufficient participation to determine a consensus. Daniel (talk) 07:25, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

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Can we show that this meets WP:NCORP? Lightburst (talk) 15:02, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

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Appleseed Foundation

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The result was keep‎. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) The person who loves reading (talk) 03:47, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

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The Appleseed Foundation was recently nominated for deletion. It appears it is now known as the Appleseed Network. There appear to be many sources for the Appleseed Network. Thriley (talk) 17:35, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

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Ori Calif

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REDIRECT
The result was redirect‎ to Carlton Tavern. I see a rough consensus to Redirect this article. I also am concerned with WP:BLP1E brought up and other BLP issues in this almost entirely negative article. Liz Read! Talk! 06:49, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

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I could do with help improving this article, which is being discussed for deletion. Subject of the article demolished a listed pub and made news for doing so, but did so via a limited company, so a lot of the reporting is about the company he is the sole director for. He's done similar things to other pubs, but questions remain about the coverage cited so far is significant or not. Basically need more significant coverage. CT55555(talk) 14:28, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Update: sources can be found using his native name אורי כליף CT55555(talk) 15:58, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
Hey I did edit this article a bit, hopefully it helps. I reformatted it by adding a section on the Carlton Tavern.
I don't know if these were the changed you were looking for but hopefully it helped a bit with at least adding info on the Carlton Tavern. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 03:27, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
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Anna Nicole Smith: You Don't Know Me

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The result was speedy keep‎. Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:43, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

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Anna Nicole Smith: You Don't Know Me (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion

This is a solid stub, and someone has already run down four sources in A-list publications. There is plenty of room to expand this stub. All sources are reviews of the documentary, and this reflist could use a more balanced diet, so someone experienced in television, film, and documentary articles might be able to help. The subject is also part of popular culture, so non-experts shouldn't feel put off either. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:11, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

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Jane Goodall Institute

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KEEP
The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Actualcpscm scrutinize, talk 16:26, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

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Laudable institute. But is it notable? Lightburst (talk) 20:14, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

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Zafar Mahmud

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The result was no consensus‎. I think discussion has finally run out of steam, and would recommend waiting a while before considering filing a new AfD. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:44, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

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Article is at WP:AFD after a deletion review. The article is not well sourced, I assume sources exist offline, and if anyone can help add some, it would be very timely. CT55555(talk) 13:54, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Is there anything at Internet Archive? -- GreenC 15:06, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. That was helpful in order to get English-language sources to verify two of his diplomatic roles. The other hits I think are about someone else with the same name. I expect most of the sources about him are offline and/or Urdu, so having a tough time with this article. CT55555(talk) 01:36, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
If you can't save it here, just go to https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Zafar_Mahmud and asked an administrator to import it. Special:Export can export the entire edit history of the article, it only 613 KB, but only an administrator can import it on that wiki. Did you read the obituaries for the guy? They usually list the most important things in someone's life. I searched https://www.newspapers.com/ for his name and "Royal Indian Air Force" and found nothing. Dream Focus 03:06, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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Mizzy

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DELETE
The result was delete‎. There is a clear consensus to delete here. Black Kite (talk) 17:59, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

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Concern has been expressed about WP:BLPCRIME and WP:CRIME issues about this social media influencer. There is some urgency, as this article as at WP:AFD. I've completely rewritten the article and I thought made it compliant with both of the above guidelines/policy, but comments coming in make it clear that people don't agree.

Any help in making this article compliant with WP:BLPCRIME and WP:CRIME would be very welcome.

There is lots more sources about the subject online, overwhelmingly in unreliable sources, so please don't add them in. Probably this article needs to be shorter, I'm just not sure what needs to be cut to make it compliant. CT55555(talk) 00:24, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

  • Comment. I don't think this particular article is a good candidate for ARS as the relevant policy issue at hand relates specifically to the following policy language at WP:CRIME: "Generally, historic significance is indicated by sustained coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources which persists beyond contemporaneous news coverage and devotes significant attention to the individual's role." Given that the sources on this subject are all within a recent timeframe and are exclusively connected to on-going news coverage, I don't think there is going to be way to solve the problem through adding more available RS. There has not been sufficient time for the development of other types of RS as required by this policy langue. It's a little unfair to essentially ask people at ARS to locate coverage that would be a technical impossibility to exist given that the sources about the subject are all tied up in current news events in relation to an alleged crime that has yet to go through the court system. In short not enough time has passed for sources to develop which "persist beyond contemporaneous news coverage" (which is still on-going). Let's not send the ARS team on a fool's errand. That said, anyone still wishing to attempt to address the problem is welcome to try, I just don't think its likely to be successful because the types of sources needed (ie. something other than contemporaneous media coverage) have not been published yet (if they will ever be published at all).4meter4 (talk)
CRIME is one of the special notability guidelines. It might fail CRIME but pass GNG, in which case GNG can be a valid rationale. Also, ARS is not a "team". I don't what it is, but team implies something ARS is not. -- GreenC 05:11, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
I don’t agree with that interpretation of policy at all. WP:BLP policy trumps GNG in this case and WP:BLPCRIME (and more broadly WP:NOTSCANDAL) makes the language at CRIME more prescient even than that of GNG.4meter4 (talk) 06:36, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
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Unreferenced articles should be deleted

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Proposal to delete upward of 100,000 unreferenced articles. -- GreenC 20:00, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Ahaaha Rocks

Latest comment: 1 year ago5 comments2 people in discussion
NO CONSENSUS
The result was no consensus‎. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:55, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

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I have found some other search terms (mentioned in the AfD) which uncover rs for this geo article. Can the article be improved with the rs? I hope that some others who watch this group might give it a go. I will try a bit myself. There are approximately two days left before the article will be deleted. So make haste please. Lightburst (talk) 14:31, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

I was able to determine that the area is part of The Noises in the Auckland Region of NZ. I found sources which cover it in depth and others that are more cursory. I also found an image of the Ahaaha on commons. I imagine there is more that can be done but I am a lone voice in the wilderness so I will leave it to others to see if I have provided enough rs to show notability. Lightburst (talk) 18:15, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
I think you have shown notability. Given current voting results, I don't see how to overturn the deletion tide without a major change in weather. The special guideline Wikipedia:Notability_(geographic_features) warns: "aggregate sources tell us nothing about why a particular object is distinguished". This doesn't make sense to me. I started a thread at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(geographic_features)#"distinguished". However, this special guideline has been recently actively fought over due to the roads fiasco so I expect nothing will get done. All geographic features are now under the spotlight it's a hot topic. -- GreenC 18:30, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the message @GreenC: - it is difficult to turn it around after multiple Delete ivotes. There may be just enough notability for this topic. Looks like quite a few diving sites talk about Ahaaha, but those are not RS. I will check out your link. FYI: I see there is no article for the David Rocks which appear to be larger and more discussed than the Ahaaha rocks. Lightburst (talk) 00:45, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
This looks an awful lot like vandalism. I am not taking the bait. I concluded my participation there and am leaving it to other editors. Lightburst (talk) 02:03, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
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Oleksandr Yaroslavskyi

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion
NO CONSENSUS
The result was no consensus‎. Star Mississippi 17:37, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

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Oleksandr Yaroslavskyi has been nominated for deletion. Yaroslavskyi is a Ukrainian oligarch who appears to have plenty of coverage to meet GNG. I would appreciate any help in finding sourcing. Thriley (talk) 18:23, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

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Nation Chakma

DELETE
The result was delete‎. The delete arguments appear to accurately characterize the sources as not contributing to notability. The responses simply assert otherwise. If the assertions came from editors with reputations for solid source analysis, I might think twice, but that's clearly not the case here. RL0919 (talk) 23:16, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

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Article is poor. But is it notable?

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Loybas Hill, California

Latest comment: 1 year ago2 comments1 person in discussion
SPEEDY KEEP
The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure)‎ GreenC 15:32, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

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Former name was "Squaw Hill" and possibly "River View" in 1914. Nominator claims it was never populated but old newsprint does not agree. I brought a few sources to the AfD nomination. I think we can turn this article around. Lightburst (talk) 21:09, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks to @Cielquiparle: for their edits to the article. Lightburst (talk) 18:10, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
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List_of_places_in_Colorado:_A–F

Latest comment: 11 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Some have worked with locations before and are thus more familiar with this sort of thing. What is the best way to sort the information? Some lists show all the places in a state, others only the populated places. A previous merger discussion was done entirely by one person. So need more people familiar with this sort of thing to have a look at it. Dream Focus 20:47, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Carolyn Davidson (diplomat)

Latest comment: 11 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
CAROLYN DAVIDSON (DIPLOMAT)
The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 05:24, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

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The refrain is "Ambassadors are not inherently notable". But does the person have non-trivial coverage to pass GNG? Lightburst (talk) 19:54, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

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Native Plants Journal

Latest comment: 11 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
NO CONSENSUS
The result was no consensus‎. As with the previous AfD, there is consensus not to delete, but no consensus to keep or merge. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:49, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

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Native Plants Journal has been nominated for deletion. I would appreciate any help in finding sourcing. Thriley (talk) 14:26, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

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List of Penthouse Pets

Latest comment: 10 months ago4 comments4 people in discussion
DELETE‎
The result was delete‎. Daniel (talk) 05:29, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

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I saw that List of Penthouse Pets was nominated for deletion. The article gets 1000 or more views a day. I would appreciate any help in finding sourcing. Thriley (talk) 08:35, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Already deleted. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Penthouse_Pets When someone gets news coverage, does it mention they were a Penthouse Pet? Is that a notable thing the news media covers? Dream Focus 00:39, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
yep. Article from just a couple weeks ago. [1]Axl Rose accused of sexually assaulting former Penthouse model in new lawsuit 24.30.59.111 (talk) 21:05, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
I missed this. Silly deletion. Obvious cultural value, 100s of thousands of people looked at it each year. A google finds this but no longer a living document. -- GreenC 04:17, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
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Lord British

Latest comment: 10 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
NO CONSENSUS
The result was no consensus‎. I'm simply not seeing a consensus here. The coverage being shown here is on the thin side (as some editors argue) but not so obviously inadequate that I can substantially discount the keeps. Conversely, there seem to be legitimate objections to a merger both on process and content; I generally consider process-based arguments to be weak at AfD, because that tends to reflect a behavioral problem that AfD isn't set up to deal with; but it is significant that a very recent merge discussion did not find consensus, and nobody has really suggested that the evidence has changed since then. The opposition to a merger on the substance is also strong. Vanamonde (Talk) 12:59, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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Does anyone know how to find additional coverage of this fictional character and not just mentions of his creator role playing as him? https://www.retromags.com/ makes me wait two minutes between each search through old gaming magazines. Does anyone know anywhere else I can search through old gaming magazines? Dream Focus 20:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

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Gonzalo Lira

Latest comment: 9 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
NO CONSENSUS
The result was no consensus‎. Tossing aside the IPs and SPAs who should not have participated here per WP:GS/RUSUKR, both the Keep and Delete !voters have made some legitimate policy-based arguments. There do appear to be some sources that meet our standards, and many that do not. It seems unlikely that a relist will make consensus any clearer, so the best path would be to improve the article as much as it can be so future editors can determine if there's enough there, once things cool down. The WordsmithTalk to me 04:09, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

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Gonzalo Lira is up for deletion. He’s a controversial figure so the deletion discussion is a bit of a mess. He’s got a significant amount of press out there about his life in the 1990s and 2000s. Any help with sourcing would be appreciated! Thriley (talk) 15:57, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

His books have enough coverage to have articles. I started some basic stubs for them at Counterparts (novel) and Acrobat (novel). Dream Focus 19:38, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
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Rory O'Connor (filmmaker)

Latest comment: 9 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
KEEP
The result was The result was keep‎. ✗plicit 14:34, 1 February 2024 (UTC)‎

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Rory O'Connor (filmmaker) is up for deletion. He's an award winning filmmaker and author. The article was created in 2005 and hasn't been well-sourced since then. Any help with sourcing would be appreciated! Thriley (talk) 20:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

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Lucky Chloe

Latest comment: 9 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
MERGE
The result was merge‎ to Tekken 7. Provisionally, at least; there is a clear consensus to merge, but those who wished to do so were not terribly clear on where. If a better merge target exists instead of or in addition to the parent game, that of course is fine as well. Seraphimblade Talk to me 08:33, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

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If anyone can find anymore good sources for the article, please provide them in the AFD. MoonJet (talk) 09:06, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

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Alexander D. Henderson (businessman)

Latest comment: 9 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
DELETE
The result was delete‎. The "delete" opinions are more persuasive, as they address the quality and depth of coverage of the available sources in detail. The "keep" opinions are mostly about how important the person or his company is, or they mention a variety of sources, without demonstrating that they satisfy WP:N's requirements of substantial coverage in reliable sources. Sandstein 07:41, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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Need help finding sources. Businessman who in the late 19th century funded the company that would become Avon Products, one of the oldest and most important cosmetic companies in the USA/world. -- GreenC 14:01, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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DMC World DJ Championships

Latest comment: 9 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
KEEP
The result was keep‎. SIGCOV met with reliable sources. (non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 05:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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This article is about an event which is possibly one of the foremost DJ competitions. At time of nomination the article was not in a good state, however I have added some further text with several supporting citations. Help to add further sources and content to improve the article would be most appreciated. ResonantDistortion 00:38, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

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Biafra Liberation Army

Latest comment: 8 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
REDIRECT
The result was redirect‎ to Simon Ekpa. I will protect the redirect to stop disruption. Star Mississippi 22:36, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

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I managed to find multiple RS to improve the article. The military organization per se was established in 2023. I suggest that the article be sorted as Stub instead of of it being redirected to Simon Ekpa. It's a notable Article under "Military and warfare" category of Wikipedia. Many existing nations today had their Liberation Armies prior to independence according to historical trends. It has RS which will be updated by me and other editors. The subject is a developing one and hope it expands as time goes on. I wish to be closely monitored and directed as I improve the article. --Fugabus (talk) 11:23, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

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International Association for the Study of Dreams

Latest comment: 7 months ago8 comments2 people in discussion
KEEP
The result was keep. I see a consensus to Keep this article, especially after work was done on the article since its nomination. Liz Read! Talk! 06:54, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

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Hoping that editors can root-out some reliable sources for this association that is notable in the real world, but not as yet at Wikipedia. Thanks, Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 18:56, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

I believe that references 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 12 (Kramer, Gervasi, Love, Bogzaran, Stuever, Henig, and Auchincloss) now meet the Golden Rule. The original name Association for the Study of Dreams (ASD) yielded three lengthy pieces from The Washington Post. Still looking. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 09:49, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

User:Esowteric: These are books. 239 books. Not all are reliable and/or 'significant coverage', but many are. It's just like Google Books, you can search inside, and view limited numbers of pages. You can adjust which page number using the URL. If you don't have a free account recommend signing up. If you need help accessing a book let me know as I have full access to every book. You should be able to find numerous good quality sources if you spend 30 minutes or so going through them. -- GreenC 17:15, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. I have an IA account, but hadn't thought of querying in this fashion. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 17:18, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Google Book Search only works on the pages it makes available for free preview, so you can't actually search the entire book, only a small portion of it. Archive.org is the real deal, you can search the entire book. That plus the millions of books often gets better results than Google. The archive allows up to 10 page views per day, first come first serve, so whatever pages were viewed in the past 24 hours (by anyone) are the only pages available for viewing. Thus use search first to identify candidate pages before opening to that page and locking in one of the 10 pages. -- GreenC 18:39, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Update: Got 1 delete vote; provided new citations (listed above); got 1 keep vote for hopefully passing WP:GNG. AfD has now been relisted. I'm hoping that someone will be able to verify the citations, especially the three from The Washingon Post. The nominator tells me he can't do that as they're behind the WP paywall. Then the "notability" template on the article can maybe be changed by an uninvolved editor to "refimprove" (?) Thanks, Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 17:48, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Update: Relisted again, got 2 more keeps. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 13:29, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Final update: "The result was keep. I see a consensus to Keep this article, especially after work was done on the article since its nomination." Not sure how to close this entry here. Many thanks, Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 08:18, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

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Brian Merchant

Latest comment: 7 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Brian Merchant was nominated for deletion. I created the article as a stub for expansion later. I believe he meets GNG/Author. Any help with expansion would be appreciated! Thriley (talk) 22:36, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

The five people going there said Keep, listing reasons, and the nominator then closed it as keep. Dream Focus 03:49, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Jason Perlow

Latest comment: 7 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
KEEP
The result was keep‎. demonstrated to meet GNG by sources provided. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 03:49, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

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Jason Perlow was nominated for deletion. He is the co-founder of eGullet, an important Internet forum in the 2000s for the food world. I think there is enough out there for him to meet GNG. Any help with sourcing would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 05:19, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

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Greg Flynn (businessman)

Latest comment: 6 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Greg Flynn (businessman) has been nominated for deletion. He's a billionaire and owner of over 2,600 restaurants in the United States. Any help with sourcing would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 16:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Instagram face

Latest comment: 5 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Instagram face has been nominated for deletion. Plenty of source material already. Any assistance with finding more would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 18:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Alex Lozupone

Latest comment: 7 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I hope this was the right place, I was looking through AFDs. Alex Lozupone was nominated and now I am overly confused at the discussion. I think from how I understand the policies it does pass as I discussed at the discussion but I need to step away, but I don’t want everyone else’s efforts to go away because I don’t understand policy. This musicians is not super notable but seems somehow to have some sources, maybe it is not enough, maybe there are some more. I created this article before knowing that he also does music. I don’t care to be involved in the harsh discussion anymore where people quickly vote without reading. Thank you. Maybe I am wrong, but the article was around a long time, and the user who nominated it and some other I created has stopped editing so it is confusing. ThreeBootsInABucket (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 22:43, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

List of Commodore 16 games

Latest comment: 5 months ago3 comments2 people in discussion

I need help finding sourcing. I found one physical museum that list 181 of them. Need help finding other physical museums that have physical copies of these video games in their collection. If you feel like clicking on an empty box in the reference column to add a reference to something from time to time, every little bit helps. Dream Focus 07:17, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

If we cant find every single game, We might have to add a few [citation needed] to the infobox. The alternative is to delete them, as sadly we cant use another wikipedia page as a source. I will go and run some citation and bots on it to prevent the speedy deletion and/or deadlinksCooldudeseven7 (talk) 15:21, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Ignore all rules is a founding policy. The guidelines are just guidelines. Follow policy. Wikipedia:Notability begins with: This page documents an English Wikipedia notability guideline. Editors should generally follow it, though exceptions may apply. Exceptions links to the policy of ignore all rules, which says "If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it."
There is no doubt that the games exist, you can find information about them, and pictures of them. So you don't need a reliable source telling you they exist. Also if they have their own Wikipedia article, you can go there and find a reference if you want one. I did that with dozens of them, then didn't see the point to keep bothering with it. People can click the link and read about it. Dream Focus 15:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

AREA (fashion label)

Latest comment: 4 months ago3 comments3 people in discussion

AREA (fashion label) has been nominated for deletion. The subject easily meets notability guidelines based on the current sourcing. Thriley (talk) 12:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@Thriley: if that's so, why does it need rescuing? 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
To find more sources and work on the article. Or to keep you from edit warring and deleting valid sourced content. Dream Focus 16:43, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

John Mateer (musician)

Latest comment: 3 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

There is a deletion nomination for the page John Mateer (musician). See deletion discussion for more info. --9t5 (talk) 02:29, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Kugelmugel

Latest comment: 2 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

There is a deletion discussion for the page Kugelmugel. See the deletion discussion for more details. I have already expanded the article with a lot of relevant sources and inline citations to show that it clearly passes GNG, but some extra eyes can help. I haven't included any of the papers that I found in scholar into the article yet, but there's additional things there. Raladic (talk) 18:41, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

William Wyckoff

Latest comment: 2 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

William Wyckoff was recently nominated for deletion. I would appreciate any help with sourcing his books. I believe he meets notability as an author. Thriley (talk) 13:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

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