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biewer terrier

Hi, You need to get some proper referencing from reliable sources into the article. the links above will help you find out how to do this. If others remove RS you can warn them about vandalism and escalate after sufficient warnings to reporting them for vandalism. At the moment other editors are adding statements without refrences but it is nt possible to determine what is or is not reliable information. The current image is also not correctly licensed and appears to be a copyright violation. I have tagged it as such at WP:Possibly_unfree_files/2009_December_10#File:June102006_026.jpg. At the momenet you should concentrate on getting teh article into good ashap before it gest nominated for deletion. I have had a good look for reliable sources and can't find any, so I expect that it will be nominated when others look at it. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:45, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I wasn't sure where to answer, so I left my response on your page. Thank you. --Zarina1 (talk) 19:29, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

No problem. The image was assembled from materials on this website: http://biewer-btca.com/. At the bottom of the page is a a notice saying: Web site designed & hosted by the BTCA, Inc. © 2006 at Homestead™, U.S. Copyright laws protect all materials.

Wikipedia can only host material that has been released under a suitable free release license such as CC-BY-SA. Please read WP:Copyright#Using_copyrighted_work_from_others for further information on this. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

I removed my last comment as I have edited the Biewer Terrier page again. If it is removed again, I will repost and ask that the page be removed.--Zarina1 (talk) 18:50, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Biewer Terrier

The article Biewer Terrier has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non notable dog breed, I can find no WP:RS for this, just breeders web sites.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the Proposed Deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The Speedy Deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and Articles for Deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:46, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi Jezhotwells,I'm the president of the BTCA, Inc. and was about to put more links up substantiating the information that I have posted. I had put links to the research results done on the Biewer Terrier. The collage is a picture I made and thought I had stated that when I posted the picture, I'm sorry. I even tried to leave a little of the info that Rienil and 98.114.217.182 put up after correcting their grammar and spelling. I'm tired of having the truth about the breed deleted. Please remove the page if you are not going to allow me to post.

At this point I don't know what I need to do to show that the BTCA is the only reliable resource for the breed. I will get a letter from Mrs. Biewer stating this if necessary. The BTCA has numerous pictures and documents signed by Mrs. Biewer showing her support and she is a member also.

Link to Mrs. Biewer signing the standard and description of the Biewer Terrier. http://www.biewer-btca.com/breedstandard.html#anchor_121

Link to the Biewer Terrier listed as a purebred that can be tested for. http://www.wisdompanelpro.com/breedinfo/breedsdetected.html

Link to the description page from Mars Veterinary, of the Biewer Terrier. http://www.biewer-btca.com/index.html#anchor_312

Link to pictures of Mrs. Biewer showing her support of the BTCA and giving us information about the Biewer Terrier breed. http://www.biewer-btca.com/triptogermany.html

I am sorry but a letter from Mrs. Biewer is not a reliable source. Please read up on what reliable sources are. They may include newspaper or magazine articles from verifiable sources, academic journals, etc. As I can't find any and you haven't provided any, it would seem likely that the article will be soon deleted as un-encyclopaedic. It may be that someone will create a new article with good sourcing in the future. Links to dog breeders' sites are not reliable sources. The whole tone of the article is completely un-encyclopaedic at present. Please read the links that have been left on the talk page and learn what Wikipedia is and is not. The picture is a blatant copyright infringement and will shortly be deleted. Cheers. Jezhotwells (talk) 01:00, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Is Dog Fancy or Dog World considered reliable sources? How about Top Notch Toys magazine? Mars Veterinary? Research the BTCA has done in the last 4 years is not reliable? Delete the page because the majority of the information posted now has been put up by a few BYB's that have never touched a Biewer Terrier. Can you tell me why their information is being allowed to remain? Every time we complied and put up a link to verify information, it was removed immediately. Thank you--Zarina1 (talk) 02:11, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

It might be that the magazines Dog Fancy and Dog World would be borderline RS. Are they cited by other RS as reliable sources? Research by the BTCA might be reliable IF it has been reported by a reliable source. I haven't seen any links to RS being put up yet. As two other PRODs have now been placed the article will be deleted within seven days as I explained before. AS you seem as intent as edit warring as the other editors and appear to have major WP:COI issues with this article I really am not interested in continuing this convesation.Jezhotwells (talk) 02:44, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

If you are interested in further opinions on sourcing please post at the reliable sources noticeboard. Jezhotwells (talk) 03:37, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Biewer Terrier

An article that you have been involved in editing, Biewer Terrier, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Biewer Terrier. Thank you.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:01, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

December 2009

This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive comments.
The next time you make a personal attack as you did at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Biewer Terrier, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:41, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I didn't think I was attacking anoyone. I was just responding in the same way I was addressed. That won't happen again.--Zarina1 (talk) 02:14, 16 December 2009 (UTC)