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Dan Backer

Greetings. The article for Dan Backer was deleted last July at AfD. The article's sole defender in that discussion has now recreated it. (I kept the title watchlisted since I had a feeling it would be back). As the closing admin from that discussion, would you be so kind as to compare the new article with the deleted version to see if it G4-worthy? Thank you for your time. --Finngall ^talk 23:54, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Looks like Ponyo got to it first. Never mind. Thanks again. --Finngall ^talk 00:07, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Strange request at EF/FP/R

What's your take on WP:THQ#Is it possible to block/ban someone for verbally abusing someone?. It seems more than a little stange that a new account just created TheBestSniperWhoIsAMaster would find BashurMan and request to edit the latter's user page at WP:EF/FP/R#TheBestSniperWhoIsAMaster with their first edit. Do you think this this might be a case of WP:GHBH or something else that might warrant a closer look? -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:29, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Looks like User:Materialscientist was taking a gander at that - seems as though he's taken care of it, but you might want to check in with him for more info (I'm fairly sure MS has pings turned off, so he won't be aware of this discussion). Yunshui ^雲_水 08:21, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

CU clearly showed that this is someone who was blocked before, at multiple user accounts, but I don't recall the master's name. Materialscientist (talk) 12:04, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for checking on this Materialscientist. The edits which were made did seem a bit odd, especially for a new account. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:18, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Spelt vs Spelled

Re:Johann Heinrich von Thünen - both are correct, just that spelled is used in American English, while spelt is used in UK/Australia more often. Other than being a species of wheat, of course. -- Alexf^(talk) 00:05, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Hm, seems I also need to avoid editing while decaffeinated! Yunshui ^雲_水 08:05, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

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Hello Yunshui, minor quibble: You blocked Goodfella1992 (talk · contribs) as a sock of Fenopy (talk · contribs) and deleted both Draft:Open Source Social Network (Software) and Draft:Open Source Social Network via G5. However, at the time those drafts were edited by Goodfella1992, neither that account nor Fenopy nor any other connected to them that I'm aware of was blocked - thus the creation wasn't "in violation of a block" and the drafts were technically ineligible for G5. I don't think much of value has been lost, though. Huon (talk) 21:49, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Hmm - yeah, I think you're correct actually. My bad. I've no objection if you or another admin wants to restore them (worth mentioning that the originals were created in response to an Upwork advert, though). Yunshui ^雲_水 21:56, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

I see no reason to restore them. Personally I wouldn't mind a "Content created in undisclosed paid editing" speedy deletion criterion, though one of the drafts may fail to meet that, too. Huon (talk) 22:23, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Wouldn't that be nice... ah well, we can but hope... Yunshui ^雲_水 22:29, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Need help in dealing with accusations

I need help in dealing with false accusations. This goes back to Craft37by and his suspected sockpuppets. After the History of Belarus page has been protected, 46.53.243.228 (using multiple IPs, which can be seen in his edited pages' histories) has been running around and accusing me and one other user of being "Russian trolls", being "paid by moderators" among other things ("warning" messages by the IP can be seen in his edit history on various talk pages). I thought about asking for all those pages to be protected, but the accusations are only made in talk pages. I then thought about filing a new SPI case for the sockpuppets at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Craft37by, but I am not sure at this point if this is the right move. How to deal with these accusations? – Sabbatino (talk) 08:04, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

This is a bit of a tricky one... I've blocked the IP mentioned above, but the others haven't edited recently enough for blocking to be a valid solution. Protecting the talkpages affected might be a better bet, but I'm averse to protecting so many pages given the relative scarcity of these edits... My personal take, were I in your situation, would be WP:DENY - just revert him on sight (and maybe request short-term page protection for the talkpages when he crops up). You could alternatively file an SPI - I don't think a rangeblock would be effective, given the IPs used, but rangeblocks are not my area of expertise and someone else at SPI might have a better idea of whether that option would work. Yunshui ^雲_水 09:13, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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Anupkb16n

has misused twinkle to edit war. I see you warned them. I left them a note. If this persists, they need a TBAN on Sujit Mondal and on use of twinkle. DlohCierekim 14:18, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

I have my suspicions as to whether that is their original account (User:Rahulmodak876 persistently added pretty much the same content) and I know from a few moments of Google searching that they have a COI regarding that article; but since I'm involved in a content dispute with them I'm not able to slap the admin brakes on them myself. Yunshui ^雲_水 14:24, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello Yunshui   ^雲,

I am a wikipedia user from the country Bangladesh, and have created this page Sujit Mondal long years back. I and User:Rahulmodak876 both are friends and very close to the film director Sujit Mondal here in Kolkata, India. But you can see that throughout the last year, somebody from Bangladesh has edited and has written vulgar comments on Sujit Mondal.

Whenever we saw any kind of changes, me and my friend tried to rectify that and we pasted back the previous content.

We had changed at least 30 to 40 times but somebody everytime wrote bad thing about Sujit Mondal.

At last, I have introduced TWINKLE for this page. It is me , who have requested Twinkle to protect this page.

But now you are even deleting my original content instead of protecting my content from that goons who has disrupted this page during last one year.

Its very much dissappointing . But please suggest me what to do. I can even share my pictures with this legendary director to prove that I am a original friend of him.

PLEASE REPLY.

Removing unsourced promotional content is not "vulgar comments" or "writing bad things", it is bringing the page in line with Wikipedia's content requirements. You cannot post non-neutral praise of the article's subject with no sources and expect it to remain. You also have a conflict of interest and thus should not be making edits to the article anyway. Furthermore, editing in collaboration with your friend is an abuse of multiple accounts, which is not permitted here. Yunshui ^雲_水 15:14, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

This guy

Hi Yunshui, খাঁ শুভেন্দু has requested an unblock. I note that he's been blocked after a CU, but I don't have any other info on him to be able to address his unblock. Is there a puppet master? Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:27, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I usually update the userpages when I make those blocks. There is a technical link to User:Aka8i 1, a sock of User:Selim Shaikh, and there is also a possible connection to the Windows House Productions sockfarm that was active last summer. Yunshui ^雲_水 16:35, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

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Proper format for list of schools

Hello, I am a novice editor and I noticed you rolled back several edits for the article List of schools of the Dallas Independent School District. I've compiled a list of just the Dallas high schools, but I'd like some experienced feedback on my work. Where is the best place to put the list for editorial review? Thank you in advance for your time. PhillyHarold (talk) 03:45, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

I just placed it in my Sandbox PhillyHarold (talk) 04:17, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

This looks pretty good. The only point I'd add is that under the style guideline for lists there shouldn't be a mix of linked and unlinked entries - if a school doesn't have a corresponding Wikipedia article, it shouldn't be on the list. Otherwise, this is great; please feel free to incorporate it into the article. Yunshui ^雲_水 10:03, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Yunshui, Thank you so much for the help. I reviewed the style guideline for lists and other articles linked from there, but I can't find where it addresses linked and unlinked items in a list. Can you point me to the specific location in the article? Thanks! PhillyHarold (talk) 01:28, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Hi PhillyHarold. Try looking at WP:CSC. The general consensus is that individual entries of a list article should have an existing article written about them, or at least be viable candidates for such an article to be written in the future. This might seem unnecessarily exclusionary and subject, but articles (including list) articles aren't intended to include everything about a subject, even content which can be properly sourced. List articles in particular can easily turned into online directories and places to namecheck people, places or things; so, there has to be some basic inclusion criteria established to try and keep the content manageable and suitable. Many editors seem to feel that too many redlinks in a list article most likely means that the list article probably shouldn't exist to begin with per WP:SAL. The same can be said of embedded lists within articles, and often redlinks will be removed per WP:WTAF. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:09, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Opinion requested

Hi Yunshui. I'm curious to know your take on this edit. This is a fairly new account which had made only few edits before showing up to re-add a contentious section to an article currently under discussion at BLPN. That could be completely coincidental, but posting things such as being the "original editor" who added the disputed content and that the "controversy" is on going and is likely "spawn new articles" about it in the coming days seem a little strange coming from a completely new account and sort of give the impression there might be something more to this along the lines of WP:RGW. It's also a bit unusual for a complete newbie to post something like "expected for debate to ensue when editing for BLP" because WP:BLP doesn't seem to be something newbies have a good grasp of after only a handful of edits. Of course, this could nothing and just me being overly cautious; however, I just thought it best to express these concerns to someone else to see if there might be something to them. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:18, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

The claim that they are "the original editor of the Sword and Scale Controversy section" section would seem to suggest that they are User:Satani, who added that section last year. That was enough for me to run a CU check to compare them, but there's no technical connection between the two. I agree that it's somewhat suspect, however there's nothing I can accurately put my finger on. Yunshui ^雲_水 10:00, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. Perhaps, it's just much ado about nothing. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:51, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

I am unsure what was meant with "original editor", but I only have this user account (Satani), no sock-puppets or other accounts. Satani (talk) 17:05, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying. It still seems like an unusual editor for a true newbie account to make, but perhaps that's all there is to it. My guess then is that the "original editor" comment was intended to refer to the most recent version of the controversy section which the editor added, and not the other version which had be repeatedly removed and added before. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:15, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

StarDaughter

Hi Yunshui,I am new to Wikipedia and don't seem to be getting the process, and so I'm doing my best to learn. I am not a paid Wikipedian or other service, I am a person who is learning the editing process and making mistakes. I apologize for my mistakes, as I'm not trying to "cause trouble". This Wikipedia editing is totally confusing to me and I'm not even sure if i'm writing you back correctly. Thank you for your understanding. StarDaughter — Preceding unsigned comment added by StarDaughter (talk • contribs) 22:26, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Well, I gave you the opportunity... your account is now blocked. Yunshui ^雲_水 22:29, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

User:AhamBrahmasmi

Thank you for that....I had my suspicions :). He became too bold in the end. Lectonar (talk) 08:35, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Promoting your own article to GA... maybe Wiktionary can use him to improve their definition of "hubris"... Yunshui ^雲_水 08:38, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Can you guys please take care of this SPI too. I guess we need a separate case for AhamBrahmasmi. GSS (talk|c|em) 08:39, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Hadn't realised there was an SPI; I've done the CU thing there. Yunshui ^雲_水 08:42, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

In this discussion, Aham says he's a member of Gokul Suresh's PR team, so it is presumable that Aham is a professional PR agent and is possibly be associating with many more actors and films (such as Aravindante Athidhikal), which might be the reason why his activities looks like PR work. But, Aham has only admitted of hired by Gokul, which is not believable. I see Lectonar and Kb03 had also expressed this doubt. Particularly the page Big Bang Entertainments (deleted and recreated). Why would someone care about creating an article for a new production company which produced only two films ? Also created another page for E4 Entertainment, another company, which is now deleted. Aham has created four film pages of Gokul. I think Sam3346 might be also from their PR team, it might be the reason why some users thought they are related (just a theory). 2405:204:D004:3280:D5DE:D3D9:6DF2:3094 (talk) 16:33, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Knew something fishy was up, thanks for SPI'ing, GSS Kb03 (talk) 16:43, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Need some advice

Hi Yunshui. Do you have suggestions on how to try and impress upon NostalgiaBuff97501 that he needs to do a better job of complying with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines, particularly those related to non-free content use. You'll get the general idea just from looking at all of the image-related notifications added to his user talk page over the years, and the sheer number of them makes it seem that he's not really trying to understand why they were added in the first place. His only response seems to be this, or something similar (see Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2018 October 25#Non-free logos in Chico Heat for another example).

Many of his uploads have been deleted for one reason or another, sometimes even via FFD, but he continues to go on upload sport team logos, even occasionally re-uploading a deleted file or files (perhaps unintentionally), without any apparent concern for previous discussions or relevant policies and guidelines. He also continues to upload exceedingly large files despite have been advised to avoid doing this as far back as July 2015 and then again in in 2018 once again. His issues apparently aren't only with logos as can be seen with previously raised concerns needing to be repeated only to receive the same "things are too vague" type of response in return. Perhaps there's a way to avoid this ending up at WP:ANI because he also does seem to make some positive contributions; these, however, are starting to be outweighed (at least in my opinion) by the cleaning up the community often needs to after his edits. I'm beginning to wonder whether the WP:IDHT approach he seems to take every time his edits are questioned is starting to indicate a bit of a WP:CIR problem, particularly with respect to image use. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:45, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Well, my best suggestion is actually the very thing you want to avoid - ANI is set up precisely to deal with this sort of intractable editor. I would recommend taking the problem to the community in that venue; best case scenario NostalgiaBuff97501 gets the message that his disregard for the rules is serious business and mends his ways, worst case scenario he gets indef-blocked by community consensus and the problem goes away. Yunshui ^雲_水 09:07, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes, you're probably right. My post here only seems to have made things worse; so, perhaps going to ANI right away would've been best. I was trying to avoid another ANI case like this because those can lead to things like this. I'll take another shot at trying to discuss things with this editor in a day or so. Maybe I'll have better luck this time around. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:45, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

I guess that's a solution of sorts too... Yunshui ^雲_水 08:52, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

I forgot about that page, but perhaps that's one possibility. However, I'm not sure that would work here because of stuff like File:Rio Grande Valley Dorados Helmet Logo.png, File:Rio Grande Valley Dorados Helmet 2019.png and File:Rio Grande Valley Dorados.png. These are basically the same files. The logo file was uploaded a few years back, but the helmet only recently. The logo doesn't appear to have changed so there's no need just to add a version of it appearing on the helmet per WP:NFCC#3a. One probably needs to go, and it makes more sense the keep the logo file since the logo is more clearly visible in that file. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:54, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

User talk:Dolfinz1972

Hi Yunshui, I saw you recently blocked the above user. I came across their talk page (they are still on my watchlist from an old ANI), and saw they have a load of links to shortcuts for uBlock Origin. Is this suitible material? I'm a little confused as this isn't mainspace, and is in userspace, so the rules are a more lax, however, I'm not sure if this is considered advertising.

It's also confusing as the user is blocked. Would you mind checking it? (If you don't have time, no worries, I just saw you were the one who recently blocked the user.) I'm not worried either way, however, I thought I'd check when I saw it. This is the revision for reference if it gets changed [1] Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:57, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Kind of an odd thing to have on your userpages... it sort of skirts WP:UPNOT but technically some of that content is Wikipedia-related, so... On balance I think I'm going to leave it (I don't use uBlock Origin and know very little about it) but I certainly have no objection if you or anyone else wants to edit it out. Yunshui ^雲_水 09:13, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Documents

Good day, Yun Shui! Please tell me which documents do I need to provide for you to post a biography of our CEO? Https: //en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft: Voyt, _Sergiy_Mykolayovich This is my first article and I don’t get any money for this placement. It seems to me this article corresponds to the encyclopedic importance, is neutral, and at the same time I relied on secondary authoritative sources. Maybe you need to provide a letter from the company on a letterhead in which to officially indicate that I am authorized to post information on social networks. Please tell me how to be further in this situation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lotus.olala (talk • contribs) 14:27, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

You do not need to provide any documents. As I explained in response to your email, we are not interested in what your company wants to say about its CEO; we are only interested in what reliable sources have said about notable topics. Given your role in the company, it is also not true to say that you are not being paid to edit Wikipedia; you are very clearly doing this as part of your job, which constitutes paid editing. Again, as per my email, you should not edit pages relating to your company, your CEO or any other aspect of your business on Wikipedia. You also have yet to comply with the mandatory disclosure requirements for paid editing; if you do not do so, your account will be blocked. Yunshui ^雲_水 14:40, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

edit username

hey yunshui.

I miss-typed my name to LoboLloy instead of LoboLloyd as I intended.

Can you edit it to the desired username? LoboLloyd that is?

§§§ — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoboLloy (talk • contribs) 02:36, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Technically I can, but I am somewhat curious as to why you chose to contact me directly rather than simply following the process at WP:CHU. To get to my name in the list of global renamers, you have to scroll past at least ten other en-wiki admins with rename permissions, so I'd be interested to know why I and no-one else got the honour of being asked personally. Plus, given that you have made literally no edits besides this request, what's stopping you from simply registering a new account with the correct name? Yunshui ^雲_水 08:21, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

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Possible multiple accounts

Hi Yushui. Would you mind taking a look at CTF99, Kigenkigen and Holmes767? There may be a connection between these accounts per WP:COIN#Wang Zheng (pilot), and there might be some other accounts which have also edited Wang Zheng (pilot). If it's better to start a SPI, let me know. FWIW, there may be BLP concerns with the article, but it would be helpful to know if these accounts are connected as part of trying to sort things out. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:40, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: For the sake of thoroughness, an SPI would be appropriate. Having taken a look at the CU data, I'd say there is a  Likely (bordering  Confirmed) relationship between CTF99 and Kigenkigen, and a very  Possilikely (a mix between possible and likely) connection between those two accounts and Holmes767; given their SPA nature, it's almost certain that they are operating in collusion. However, given the complexity of the issue, I'd much prefer to see this thrown up against the wall at SPI rather than dealt with here on my talkpage; if you do take the SPI route, let me know when the case is up and I'll add my findings and take a look. Yunshui ^雲_水 07:50, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. I started a SPI at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kigenkigen. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:46, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

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User talk:Notimelivelong

I assume that you accidentally deleted part of NinjaRobotPirate's comment when you denied the unblock request here so I restored it. Meters (talk) 07:55, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Meters: Totally correct assumption on your part, thank you very much for spotting and fixing it. Yunshui ^雲_水 07:56, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

WP:COIN#FOI Online Awards

Hi Yunshui. Would you mind keeping an eye on this COIN discussion for a bit? When new IPs start appearing out of nowhere to comment on an obscure COIN thread and start thanking each other for the comments, I tend to suspect something is going on, and it seems like there might be some (mild) SOCK or MEAT going on by an IP accounts 2405:204:A708:7AE6:756A:9449:AE4D:66E7, 2405:204:A708:7AE6:A5F1:347D:7D63:378A, and 47.9.104.164. I'm not sure if anyone needs to be blocked right at this moment and this is probably a newbie misunderstanding of Wikipedia, but something might need to be done if things take a turn for the worst. Anyway, I just wanted to get feedback for someone more experienced in dealing with this kind of thing. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:19, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

I can't really tell you anything you don't already know. All three IPs are registered to Jio and geolocate to Lucknow - given their identical style of writing, and area of interest, it's extremely likely that they are the same person. I don't think a CU is necessary, this is a pretty cut-and-dried attempt to create the illusion of support for their position, so I'll dole out some shortish blocks. Yunshui ^雲_水 10:12, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. I was kinda hoping that they just were a newbie who meant no real harm; however, they posted yet again in the thread using another 2405 IP, and their refusal to do something as simple as signing their posts makes it seem as if it's just kinda a game to them. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:58, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Apology

Hi, I'm sorry if I managed to upset you; I've explained my thoughts further on the ANI thread and having calmly and carefully read through some of the back story, I have suggested the community may want to think about a site ban for Tony1. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:36, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: In my opinion, this is absolutely not appropriate. The editor is clearly raging about his block and has issues with some of the FACs. He removed the block notice, which is not supposed to occur. While I am not offended by the comment made here, I definitely do not appreciate it. This kind of behavior is not constructive for the project. Noah^Talk 22:14, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Hurricane Noah: FYI, per WP:BLANKING they are within their rights to clear their own talk page; and the link you provide to the MOS:FLAG icon comment is harmless in its entirety. Ciao, ——SerialNumber54129 08:11, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Someone explained to me that it is only UNBLOCK notices that can't be removed (for obvious reasons). I had thought the entire kit and caboodal (block notice) couldn't be removed while the user was blocked. While the comments made on those two links aren't on the same level as what happened to you in the least, they do show a pattern of interactional behavior. Noah^Talk 10:06, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

No problem, Hurricane Noah! ——SerialNumber54129 11:01, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: No upsetness on my part - sorry if it came across that way; I was typing in haste and may not have expressed myself terribly well. The apology is unnecessary (but appreciated in the spirit in which it was offered!). Let me catch up on the situation (I've only been online for a few moments) and I may opine further at ANI if it's warranted. Yunshui ^雲_水 07:41, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	hmm i really dont know what is this i am doing this for the first time Lonewolf20032001 (talk) 09:35, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

@Lonewolf20032001: It's a way of showing appreciation for other Wikipedia users. See WP:WIKILOVE and WP:BARNSTAR. Yunshui ^雲_水 10:32, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Digital3d

I've put an unblock request on hold at User talk:Digital3d. It seems he was the original author of the article in which he was changing a URL (with the current "new" username presumably a SUL thing). Any thoughts? Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:00, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Well, we really should have put the brakes on him when he created a page about his own product back in 2008... I'm fine with you unblocking if you wish, but I would expect at the very least an agreement that he won't use Wikipedia to publicise his software again (and given that his username matches the URL of his blog, I'd prefer a username change as well - just because he's flown under the radar this long doesn't mean he gets any preferential treatment). Yunshui ^雲_水 11:06, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Yep, I agree with the username change, and with the article about his product - I've nominated it for deletion. I'll have a think and come up with some sort of conditions for him. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:14, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Response to your concerns raised on my talk page

Dear Yunshui

Thank you for raising your concern. At the outset, let me clarify that despite being an avid user of wikipedia, I have very little experiece in editing or creating pages as my past record will show. Naturally, I have to spend a lot of time correcting errors and figuring how wikipedia works. Secondly, my edits are purely as one would to an encyclopaedia. This is not a part of my job, and I'm not being paid for. My attempt is only to record a topic as my first page. I've tried to do so without bias or embellishments, and I'll be grateful if you can point out if - and where - I've gone wrong. Some of my edits are just pulled out of the referenced research added earlier by someone else. I simply tried to make it clear. I know I should've marked them as 'minor edits', but I got to know this feature after a few attempts.

However, if you feel that I have made any unreferenced or biased observation, or my attempt to clarify is not warranted. Please do share the instance with me. I would love to improve myself. The page I've tried to create is on a subject that already has many references to research papers on wikipedia. While attempting the topic I have only stated available facts, and quoted as many references as I could find.

As regards further edits/ additions to wikipedia, I will refrain from doing so till you give me the go ahead. I've benefitted immensely from your neutrality, and I understand that your vigil is to ensure that the sanctity of wikipedia remains intact.

regards

Aaruni Aaroonie (talk) 11:41, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

@Aaroonie: I'd like to assume good faith, I really would... but given that, barely half-an-hour after I left that message on your talkpage, the account User:Shruto138 showed up on Draft:InBody to start editing - and given that both accounts appear to be technically related, and the only previous attempts to create this page have been by employees of InBody - I'm left with the natural conclusion that you are not being wholly straight with me here. Both accounts are now blocked. Yunshui ^雲_水 12:14, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Rahul Megh Arya

My apologies if I stepped on your toes - when I checked the CU logs, they were empty, but during my checks, I saw that you were working on the case, too. —DoRD (talk)​ 15:34, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

@DoRD: No apology necessary - I'd recently had dealings with the master so was familiar enough to block it as a duck anyway. Didn't actually even notice anyone else was looking at it... shows how observant I've become in my dotage. Yunshui ^雲_水 07:42, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

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User:AhamBrahmasmi

Returned with another sock ([2],[3]) and editing the usual pages. I suggest a mass rollback. BTW, this is one of his former IP edit. 137.97.89.195 (talk) 10:57, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Sorted; cheers for that. Yunshui ^雲_水 11:09, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Could you do a check on 137.97.133.126 if still possible please? If positive, we have at least one G5 article...although it quacks heavily. Lectonar (talk) 07:12, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, that's almost certainly him; no check needed. IP blocked, article deep-sixed (well, G-fived...). Yunshui ^雲_水 08:25, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

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West Midlands Fire Service IP

Hi, at the beginning of this month you blocked User:Corpcommswm because of promotional edits at West Midlands Fire service and becasue the username represents an organisation. This was quite helpful, but the WMFS IP User:83.244.223.82 has been making troubling edits and ignoring warnings for even longer than User:Corpcommswm, therefore perhaps you could take a look at the IP also please? They've had at least four warnings now and never reply to feedback let alone take heed of it. Thanks.Shakehandsman (talk) 06:02, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

IP blocked for six months - it's a static IP registered to the WMFS that does nothing except add promotional content and whitewash the article, so I'm treating it as though it's a spam account. Yunshui ^雲_水 07:33, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Many thanks.--Shakehandsman (talk) 03:27, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Caitlin Stevens21 response to Message

Hi Yunshui,

I would just like to respond in regards to your message rejecting my intent to create a page for Tony Park (Author). I did not clarify I was getting paid for this position as I'm not getting paid to do this. This was just helping out a friend of my bosses who doesn't have a wikipedia page yet and I informed him I could easily create it for him at no charge.

Thanks, Caitlin Caitlin Stevens21 (talk) 23:52, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

@Caitlin Stevens21: You know you're on LinkedIn, right? Want to try coming up with a better story, or shall I just block your account now? Yunshui ^雲_水 07:23, 14 May 2019 (UTC)