User talk:Xnuala/archive3

This archive contains 4 May 2007 to 28 July 2007 Please see the current discussion at User talk:Xnuala.

Outcubation : new wikipedia article.. an additional source provided

http://www.linkedin.com/answers/startups-small-businesses/starting-up/STR_STP/52151-2541799 please review..

Thanks!

Association for Theological Education in South East Asia

Thanks for cleaning up my typos. For some reason, I've always had trouble spelling "Philippines" and "neccesary" correctly :) - BobK 22:56, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Your message

Interesting; you could well be right. I'm not clear whether there's good cause for making a checkuser request; what do you think? --Mel Etitis (Talk) 15:36, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually I've just discovered a previous checkuser request, which does indeed confirm that she uses that IP address. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 16:28, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Xnuala, thank you for your kind words in support of my RfA, which successfully closed yesterday. Please feel free to drop me a line any time if I can help you in any way. Pastordavid 15:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Librcide

Thanks again for your kind assistance, Xnuala. I know there are problems with my writing and how time-consuming it is to try. Would you still be interested? I'm ready to whittle away or take your advice and move on.

Neil zusman 00:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: ANI post

No worries. :-) --Deskana (talk) 02:42, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

A proposal re: Vandalism Templates

While I sympathize with your assertion that an accusation of homosexuality should not be considered defamatory, in common usage, as in this case, it often is. The {{uw-test}} is for edits which might be accidental. And while it is almost certainly vandalism, {{uw-defamatory}} allows for the possiblity that the edit is true, just unsourced. —dgies^t_c 03:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Plastax

Regarding my Plastax submission:

I do think the term "plastax" warrants its own entry in Wikipedia, for a few basic reasons.

Firstly, the entry on plastic shopping bags does not use the term "plastax," either in reference to Ireland, or elsewhere. Someone searching for the meaning of the term plastax will type "plastax" in the search field, not "plastic shopping bag." As an important environmental/economic concept, plastax is a word that deserves to be defined independently.

Secondly, the implementation of a plastax is being considered by other municipal governments in the U.S, notably the New York City council. Hence, it warrants its own entry as the concept becomes more widely considered as a solution to prevent the spread of plastic bags.

Lastly, my entry provides more detailed info on the tax rate, including its current rate and future increase.

Might I suggest a redirect to Plastic Bag and the information about tax to be added to the Ireland section? If that is not acceptable to you, feel free to post your article to my talk page and I will create it for you. However, I fear that the article may be proposed for deletion or debated for such due to the limited scope and availability of information elsewhere. I'll let you make the call, and am happy to see you here improving Wikipedia!--Xnuala (talk)(Review) 14:01, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

re: WP:AFC

Thanks for your comments. I kind of just stumbled onto the page today and thought I'd take a stab at weeding out the more obvious declines. I didn't realize there was a backlog. If I summon up some boldness I might take a look. =) Powers ^T 23:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Wow, you weren't kidding about the backlog. I cleaned out May 1, but, man! Powers ^T 02:28, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

RE: Thanks for the comment! I was looking through AFC yesterday when I noticed the backlog. It was huge! Anyway, I will help out whenever possible in clearing it out. -- _Hdt83 ^Chat 00:58, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Articles for Creation

It certainly would interest me, although the idea did hit me recently of organizing a Wikipedia Real Life group project in NYC (where I work) of hitting up the New York Public Library. I will definitely take a look at that list and try to set up a date in the coming two weeks and head to NYPL with some items off of that wish list. Thank you for pointing it out to me! --Ozgod 23:04, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I definitely will become involved with it but I would still most likely find myself running off to NYPL with items off of that lists. Again, thank you for pointing it out to me! It make take me a little bit to get comfortable with it before I start diving in and becoming really active. --Ozgod 23:10, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

My eye spies this little page linked to the backlog on the project page and I see a juicy list for me to hit NYPL with. --Ozgod 23:15, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for picking up my suggestion for an aryicle on the Parliamentary Conference of the Americas. For the time being, I'd rather continue contributing (Council of State Governments, Henry Klumb, etc) on an anonymous basis. Once again, thanks! 200.50.30.126 01:34, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

(In responce to message left on talk of the same name) Yes, I would! ffm ✎talk 12:50, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I apologize I have not been more active with the Articles for Creation project - got back from Ohio this week and I am drowned in work (real life one). Hopefully next week I can begin chipping away at that backlog. --Ozgod 02:10, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Gonna try to hit up the New York Public Library today and tackle some of the articles on that juicy little backlog we had talked about! --Ozgod 15:11, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

me

you thanked me for starting the Carlo Petrini article, but i am actually already a user. however, my account was blocked after someone hacked it and used it to write messages i did not wish for- please consider the recommendation of the lifting of my ban- i am rossmacleod1992

editor review

I have left comments on your Editor Review (here: [[1]] ) VK35 23:19, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Dunn solar Telescope and Vacuum Tower Telescope

(Ref: Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/2007-05-27#Dunn_Solar_Telescope)

These creation proposals appear to be in danger of landing on the back burner, so perhaps I could ask—what about them requires an expert? I put all the detailed technical info straight into the existing article; it's just a matter of renaming. And I thought the information about the names was sufficiently well-referenced to be clear to anyone.

Can I supply any necessary information you're waiting for? 71.41.210.146 21:21, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi there! Because your request requires a rename of an existing page, I'd like to make sure that there is consensus within the community to make the move. I posted on the article talk page, so perhaps if you would like to communicate with other users interested in the telescopes and point me to that I would be happy to do the move for you! Basically, I don't want to step on any toes if the move is controversial, and I requested expert assistance because I'm not at all knowledgable about the topic. Are you aware of any controversy that making the move might cause, or can you provide me with some resources so I can learn more about the topic? Thanks for staying involved, and I'd like to make sure that your requests are dealt with! --Xnuala (talk)(Review) 23:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

H'm... the 1998 press release announcing the renaming seems like a pretty definitive source, as does the current DST web page, which you will note also has "DST" embedded in the URL. Here's a reference that still calls it "the Vacuum Tower Telescope", but defers to the official name of "Dunn Solar Telescope". A brief googling will turn up lots of other examples, and googling for "vacuum tower telescope" will turn up references to either the German instrument, or ones from before December 1998.[2][3][4] The November 6, 2005 Astronomy Picture of the Day is the only exception, because it's a reprint of the October 5, 1998 one. Notice that the "Vacuum Tower Telescope" link it gives is broken, because the web site was redesigned.

I'm not sure which community you're referring to (astronomical or Wikipedia), but I don't really know anyone in either. I just hit "random page" a few times a day and see what I can improve. As far as I can tell, it's an article that not many people care very much about, so posting to the talk page isn't likely to elicit much response. I could telephone the observatory and ask them what they thought, but wouldn't that be "original research" as opposed to "verifiable sources"?

I've already edited the text of the article to say what the above research revealed, so any harm is sort of done already. 71.41.210.146 01:03, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: AFC

I sometimes check AFC from time to time, check some backlog, then go off edit elsewhere. Will ^{(We're flying the flag all over the world)} 02:16, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

(reply to message on own talk page) No worries. I felt like helping with a random backlog, and afc is one that is fairly easy (most of the ones that weren't closed before are straightforward declines for one reason or another) and doesn't require admin tools. Confusing Manifestation 03:16, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Reply to [5]

No problem! I have noticed the backlog, but didn't really take a look at it until now. I'll try to knock some of those out. Thanks! Hersfold ^(talk/work) 14:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey

I'm working through Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/2006-07-16 as I send this. Whsitchy 23:46, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, right now I'm cleaning out the ones that already exist, then going through case by case on what's left. Whsitchy 23:50, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

And... done, there's one article left, but I can't tell whether to post it, or reject it. Whsitchy 00:42, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I say flip a coin, but leaning towards keep it. Whsitchy 00:57, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Nah, you can do it, I'm going offline for a few. Whsitchy 01:02, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

thanks!

My first barnstar XD. I'll probably clean another page tomorrow if I remember. --Whsitchy 01:00, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

For you

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For pretty much single handedly cleaning up a lot of the massive backlog for AfC. Whsitchy 01:03, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

my recent article

could the recent article i made please be deleted. it is a very long story, and turns out much of the information is incredibly false. Please delete it xuluana. Thank you [[[User:Dem12345|Dem12345]]]

Hey!

I got a link for ya. Whsitchy 00:53, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

You're pretty much the leader of things around there, so go right ahead. I'm no good at those sort of things, I'm too short and too the point. Whsitchy 01:03, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I think when anonguy sees it, he'll help. I've worked with him back when he was a true anon. Whsitchy 01:07, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Nice! And er.. question... are you a guy or a girl? Whsitchy 01:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: The question:

all three if you want to XD. Whsitchy 02:03, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Female actually, and obviously don't worry about me thinking stupidly of sexuality. Whsitchy 02:07, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey

if it says open, means anyone can edit it. Whsitchy 23:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

With what? Whsitchy 00:59, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Nope. I actually know a few TG people personally though O_o. Whsitchy 01:02, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: AfC Welcome

Hey, thanks for the welcome to the AfC stuff, and the invite to the project. Actually I've been around AfC for a long time, and you'll find my name deep in the development of many of the templates that're still used today, along with many many reviews and page creations. ;-) I just took a wikibreak from it for a couple months (since it gets pretty overwhelming after a while, especially when I was about the only person doing AfC reviews for a month or two there) and have just returned from it. Glad to see that there's a project now though, that's great! See you around. --Maelwys 13:08, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Dangerous Waters

Reply to [6]

I do know indeed. Thanks for the support, I've just transcluded. :-) Hersfold ^(talk/work) 01:29, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Marc Testart

Hello, I put a speedy-tag on Marc Testart, seing as the articles creator asked for it to be removed. I used the {{db-author}}-tag, buit perhaps this was inappropriate, since you hade made some edits to this article also. Just wished to let you know. Dr bab 09:36, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

WP:AFC/Today

You beat me to it User:AnonGuy/CustomTemplates/TalkIcon. --əˈnongahy ♫Look What I've Done!♫ 22:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Response

You wrote:

I apologize *grin*. Do you concur with my decision?

My Response:

Yes I do. You basically covered what I had in mind.

--əˈnongahy ♫Look What I've Done!♫ 22:11, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to WikiProject LGBT studies!

Hi, Xnuala, welcome to WikiProject LGBT Studies! We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles of interest to the LGBT community. Some points that may be helpful: Our main aim is to help improve LGBT-related articles, so if someone asks for help with an article, please try your hardest to help them if you are able. Most important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page; it is highly recommended that you watchlist it. The project has several ongoing and developing activities, such as article quality assessment, peer review and a project-wide article collaboration, all of which you are welcome to take part in. We also have a unique program to improve our lower quality articles, Jumpaclass, so please consider signing up there. If you have another language besides English, please consider adding yourself to our translation section, to help us improve our foreign LGBT topics. If you're planning to stay, have a square in our quilt! You can put anything you want in it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you. And once again - Welcome!

-- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 00:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Chris Phillips

You wrote: "But if he had not scored that goal, then Anaheim's 4th, 5th, or 6th goal would still have ensured the win. Calling it cup-clinching seems not to be particularly neutral. Your thoughts?" My thoughts are that you don't seem to understand the definition of a "game-wining goal". Goal_(ice_hockey): A game-winning goal (GWG) is the (n + 1)th goal scored by a team that defeats a team which scores n goals; e.g. if team A beats team B 2-1, the scorer of team A's second goal is credited with the GWG, regardless of whether the scoring is 0-1, 1-1, 2-1; 1-0, 1-1, 2-1; or 1-0, 2-0, 2-1. Therefore, since the game ended 6-2 in Anaheim's favor, the game-winning (and, thus, Stanley Cup-clinching) goal is goal #3, credited to Travis Moen (unassisted) at 15:44 of the 2nd period.

My RfA

That's me...

Dear Xnuala, thanks for your support in my recent RfA, it was, however, unsuccessful. I am not the type of editor to be disheartened by such a result, and have gained much experience. If you have anything to contribute by way of improvements or comments, please don’t hesitate to tell me.

I will run again. Until then, Cheers, Dfrg.msc 08:04, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

		Thanks...
	Thank you for showing your support in my recent RfA. Unfortunately, consensus was not really going my way, so I decided to withdraw my self-nomination last night. The final vote tally was (15/7/10). Your support does mean a lot to me, and I will certainly let you know when I go for my next RfA, most likely in a few month's time. Thank you again, and happy editing! Hersfold (talk/work) 17:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

RE: New WikiProject

Thanks for your note, but I already am in that wikiproject! ffm ✎talk 18:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Braco Article

I'm not too sure whether the article should be on Wikipedia. A search on the internet finds only the sites that the user has provided as sources among a lot of sites advertising services in Braco. The fact that it is the site of an ancient Roman fort may make it notable. Make a stub article without the pylons? -- _Hdt83 ^Chat 01:01, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I'll do it. :)-- _Hdt83 ^Chat 01:07, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

René Fris

There should be a redirect from "Rene Fris" to the "René Fris" article.

A Song for Arbonne is the only Guy Gavriel Kay novel without an article

Hi,

I wasn't sure how to explain why this novel's entry is important for inclusion within my article on the book because that wouldn’t fit into what the article should be, and so I hope it's ok if I explain here. Wikipedia has a list of Guy Gavriel Kay's books, his full bio and articles (summaries) on all his other nine novels or series. A Song for Arbonne is the only novel without an article and likely deserves to have a summary/identification as well as all the other novels do, especially for many new readers who are unfamiliar with it to see it. All of the novels articles are summaries and plot outlines, and I fashioned the Song for Arbonne article based on them. If the article (summary) needs improvement, which I acknowledge entirely, then that’s other than the book not being ‘worthy’ of acceptance into the encyclopedia, which you can surely see is necessary.

Thank you Sasha S1 17:19, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: 1300's fashion

Thanks for your reply! I tried to summarize and simplify the chapter as much as possible, although that's difficult with such specific facts. As far as I know, I never quoted directly, and as the source was cited (as in a research paper) I assumed that would be enough for the purpose. Was I wrong in my assumption? If you'd like, I could also type out for you the content of the pertinent chapter for comparison. Thank you again!--Ash

My Wikibreak

Hello, just to let you know, I'm leaving on vacation tomorrow, so I won't be around to fix up the template if it breaks or needs something added during the next two weeks. It's not overly complicated, but it'll be really easy to screw up if someone doesn't know what they're doing. I'm not sure how comfortable you or the rest of the AFC crew are with templates, so I just wanted to give you that heads-up. Anyway, glad you liked it, and see you in two weeks! Hersfold ^(talk/work) 23:42, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

AfC

Thanks for the invite. I really appreciate it! I will try to help when I can. Cheers, Neranei 20:55, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, I didn't know about it, and I'll definitely join. It's great that there's a wikiproject, since the efforts there seem so disjointed. Peace, delldot talk 18:37, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Oscar Benton

Hello. Thank you for your participation at WP:AFC. I have a small query regarding Oscar Benton, an article you recently created. I believe he does not meet the notability criteria. if you can not provide information to prove his notability, I will be proceeding to tagging it for speedy deletion. Also, please use {{WPAFC|class=Stub}} instead of {{WPAFC|Stub}}. Thank you. Yours sincerely, Eddie 14:59, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for participating in my RfA. It was successful, and I am now, may God have mercy on us all, an administrator. Look at all the new buttons! I had heard about 'protect,' 'block user,' and 'delete,' but no one told me about 'kill,' 'eject,' and 'purée.' I appreciate the trust the community has in me, and I'll try hard not to delete the main page or block Jimbo. -FisherQueen (Talk) 17:57, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Yay!

Aww! Thank you! ♥! delldot talk 22:13, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

AFC work, possible bot functions?

Hi there,

Thanks for all your hard work on clearing up the AFC backlog. Hopefully we can help get this terrible backlog out of the way. Almost none of the remaining submissions are verifiable so I'm just mass declining them all (and see no reason why they should be accepted in any case). Any suggestions for doing it quicker?

I'm looking to develop a bot (I'm a PHP developer on toolserver) that automates declining AFC submissions and would love to have some input from you as to what sort of functions this bot could serve, what templates you use commonly, and what would make your work on AFC more productive. Feel free to get in touch via email or my talk page.

--Draicone ^(talk) 10:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

P.S. You beat me to it! =) Yes, I'm familiar with the wikiproject and similar projects (especially ones with heavy backlogs - I started the wikification wikiproject). I'm officially on permanent leave from Wikipedia (see my user page) so I'd rather not officially join anything as such, but I'm helping out regardless.

Thanks for the feedback. I've posted a message on the project talk page. Henrik's script looks useful, but I'm trying to build a more mass decline system than something that requires individual attention for each submission (and, quite frankly, most submissions aren't worth the attention). --Draicone ^(talk) 11:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Heh

Thanks for the cover. Kwsn^(Ni!) 23:45, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

James B. Hughes

Hi, this article appears to be a copyvio of this page, although you cited another source. It looks like some of the notes are from public domain sources, but other parts and the lead section are somebody's recent work. I tagged it as a copyvio, but let me know what you think about the original source and whether it's kosher. Thanks! -- But|seriously|folks  00:34, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree it may be the same person. I laid out a suggested course of action on the article talk page. Let me know what you think. -- But|seriously|folks  00:46, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Very good. Thanks for your cooperation! -- But|seriously|folks  00:49, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Great! I gather you have an email from him. Please forward it to permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org as indicated Wikipedia:Requesting_copyright_permission#When_permission_is_confirmed here, leave a note on the article talk page, and someone with OTRS rights will leave a note on the talk page that permission is confirmed. And then we'll be good to go. Thanks for taking care of this. -- But|seriously|folks  15:44, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for supporting my recent RfA. It unfortunately did not succeed. I still plan to continue to edit however. Hope to see you around. Kwsn^(Ni!) 15:08, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Eddie's Retirement

Thank you for your kind words. I truly am still perplexed by the fact that I've been accused of being the sock of a former b'crat. It really hurt to write the paragraphs, but I believe it is necessary for my to quit. Happy editing! Yours sincerely, Eddie 17:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Praia da Marinha

I cannot understand why you decline my contribution in the translation of 'Praia da Marinha' article from Portuguese Wikipedia. In fact, if you read the DK Guide of Portugal you can understand the importance of this beach and article. If you can, please, change your decision and accept the article. Praia da Marinha is also, as I referred on my article, the cover of 'Guide of Portugal' as you can watch on: Guide of Portugal - America Express. Now, I hope you understand the reason why I want publish that article on English Wikipedia. Thanks for all attention. 84.90.90.208 23:49, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi there! I declined your contribution because it didn't include any sources. The sources that you included in this message seem to be sufficient. I would be happy to create it for you if you would include the sources in it. Thanks!--Xnuala (talk)(Review) 01:11, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

So, I give you the sources in my message. Why don't you update my article and publish the information with the cited sources? I would like to do that, but I can't. Thanks. 84.90.90.208 14:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Could you please resubmit it with the sources? In that case I can do it quickly for you, but otherwise I probably won't get to it until this weekend. Sorry.--Xnuala (talk)(Review) 03:24, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Check the article now, please. And thank you for helping me. 84.90.90.208 14:31, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

It is done! Thank-you for your contribution to Wikipedia!--Xnuala (talk)(Review) 21:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

Delivered on 16:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC).

AFC Backlog Drive!

WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive

WikiProject AFC is holding a one month long assessment drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running from July 15, 2007 – August 15, 2007.

Awards to be won range from delicacies such as the WikiCookie to barnstars.
There is a backlog of more than one year, so start reviewing articles! Visit the drive's page and help out!

This drive was organized by GrooveDog in an attempt to terminate that nasty backlog.

GrooveDog (talk) 01:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Hello again! I was looking for a prettier way to do this, but I'm not very artistic, so I'll just say thank you for your support in my RfA, which was closed as successful. I look forward to serving the community in a new way. Take care! -- But|seriously|folks  08:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

AFC Barnstar

Hey, Xnuala. With GrooveDog's Backlog Drive underway, a few of us have designed possible barnstars for the project. I thought you might want to come take a look at them. Thanks. :-) Hersfold ^(talk/work) 16:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Articles for creation

WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive News!

We are one week in to the drive, and it's already going fantastic. Numerous days of backlogs have been tackled, with hundreds of articles having been reviewed. We do, however, have some news!

First off, a HUGE congratulations to everyone participating so far. I understand some members are inactive due to vacation, but we are still making great progress.

Secondly, make sure that before you go off and review old submissions, that you review all submissions for the present day, and the day before, so that we aren't actually making a bigger backlog, by letting submissions get archived while we're checking stuff from 2006.

Third, remember to update your running total, on the drive page. Honesty is the best policy, so if you lie about the number of articles you've reviewed, we'll all make angry faces while looking at your userpage.

And, last, if you have any questions about the drive, feel free to ask me, or any other members of the project.

Great job, everyone! We're going to get that backlog!
GrooveDog

Automatically delievered by HermesBot 08:23, 25 July 2007 (UTC) ^(Owner)

Congratulations, you are now an administrator

I'm happy to inform you that, due to your successful request for adminship, you have now been promoted to an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me or stop by the administrators' noticeboard. Congrats! Andre (talk) 05:46, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Congrats! — Rlest (formerly Qst) 14:30, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

• Congratulations from me, Xnuala. :) Acalamari 17:23, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

afc n should not be substituted

{{afc n}} should not be substituted. The categories defined by this template recently changed, which broke the April 2006 AFC backlog page category. I went back and fixed up the April 2006 backlog. BTW thanks for doing the hard part of categorizing the backlog: determining what pages deserved an {{afc n}} vs. those that needed an {{afc c}}. Removing the subst was child's play. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 15:45, 28 July 2007 (UTC)