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Hi XDanielx. Thank you for your work on Alessandro Chiesa. Another editor, Ldm1954, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

There is no proof of notability. In general assistant and associate professors do not pass WP:NPROF unless there are major awards or something else.

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Ldm1954 (talk) 13:39, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

@Ldm1954: thanks for reviewing.

Chiesa's bio mentions some awards, but I don't really have enough context to know whether they're significant enough to contribute to NPROF, and/or to be worth covering in the article. Maybe the first two? Please let me know if you have input on that, though I realize you're in a different field. My work has been recognized by an IEEE SP Test-of-Time Award (2024), a Sloan Research Fellowship (2021), an Okawa Foundation Research Grant (2020), a nomination in MIT's TR35 (2018), and Google Faculty Research Awards (2018 and 2017).

Chiesa also has around 10k citations. ~150 cryptographers have more than that, but 10k is among the highest the relatively new (but IMO significant) subfield of zero-knowledge proofs. Some of Chiesa's works are considered foundational there, e.g.

• Zerocash - the basis of Zcash, arguably the first real application of zero-knowledge proofs
• SNARKs for C - the first zkVM, which led to a new subfield with various zkVM designs (Cairo, Jolt, etc) and implementations
• Interactive oracle proofs - the basic framework that most modern zero-knowledge protocols follow
• Zexe, which became the blockchain Aleo (no article, probably falls short of GNG but it's well-known in the industry)

I thought Chiesa's citations and co-founder roles might already suffice for NPROF, but if you don't think so, I'd welcome your thoughts on what the strongest case might be (awards, impact of certain papers, business roles) so that I can focus on that. — xDanielx ^T/_C\^R 16:53, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

His h-factor is on the edge, so you need additional things. I do not think co-founder is part of Wikipedia:NPROF, although you could post to Wikipedia talk:Notability (academics) about that.

For certain Sloan, Okawa, Google are important, but not that notable junior awards -- although they should be mentioned to strengthen the case. (Many people do not realize that the Sloan is really a grant even though the name is different.) The nomination is not that important and I am not sure about including it as it could appear to be peacock The IEEE is the best I would say.

For the others, to demonstrate that his work is "foundational" you have to find an independent review paper (or similar) that extensively states that. It is not enough for you to say it, it has to be a reputable secondary source. (I am not doubting the truth of your statements, just saying that you have to proveit.) Ldm1954 (talk) 18:49, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback, I made some changes accordingly. Am I understanding you right that impact would ideally be demonstrated by explicit remarks about impactfulness in reviews, surveys, etc? I don't think much of that exists in this field, perhaps since it's a young field where everyone is focused on novel problems. If it would help, I could add more secondary sources which substantially discuss and build on Chiesa's works, but without explicit language about impact.

Unless you have a different recommendation, I'll probably move to mainspace soon. If it does end up at AfD, I'll search some more for any secondary sources that might help demonstrate impact, but I might not find much so citations might end up being the main consideration. — xDanielx ^T/_C\^R 17:43, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

If you move it to mainspace now it should be almost immediately be tagged as having major problems. A critical issue is that you have not provided any sources for his awards. As written these should all be deleted, and do not be surprised if someone does. Furthermore none of your references are properly formatted, for instance 5 should be

Ben Sasson, Eli; Chiesa, Alessandro; Garman, Christina; Green, Matthew; Miers, Ian; Tromer, Eran; Virza, Madars (2014). "Zerocash: Decentralized Anonymous Payments from Bitcoin". 2014 IEEE Symposium on Security and Privacy. IEEE. doi:10.1109/sp.2014.36.

Since I moved this to draft, if you submit to AfC other will comment and give you a third chance. If you go directly to main all they can do is either delete all the inappropriate material and/or go directly to AfD. It is unlikely that you will be given a chance to improve as people will read the history. Ldm1954 (talk) 18:53, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

N.B., if you are unclear about what can happen see this. The editor who removed it all was following Wikipedia rules. Ldm1954 (talk) 20:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Fair enough, I'll at least look for sources for the awards. I'll have a look at the incomplete references also, though to be fair that's quite common and not usually considered a reason to remove content. — xDanielx ^T/_C\^R 20:52, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Alessandro Chiesa moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Alessandro Chiesa. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability and see talk page comments about notability. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Ldm1954 (talk) 13:40, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia and antisemitism

I've edited the Wikipedia and antisemitism article a fair amount today, including restructuring it. Obviously still needs work, but I'm taking a break from it. If you or anyone you know is so inclined, it'd be great if you'd improve it further. ProfGray (talk) 21:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the good work on it! The updated structure is nice. I'll try to help fleshing it out in the coming days. — xDanielx ^T/_C\^R 21:40, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

While we are waiting for the Merge discussion to be closed, perhaps you and I can discuss the potential renaming of the article. One idea would be to collaboratively write a Talk post that would survey Wikipedians with a few possible names. This might avoid going thru a series of Move discussions. It could include some discussion of criteria and pro/con on options. Thoughts? ProfGray (talk) 19:47, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

I like the idea although I'm starting to think the current title might be suitable. Since we cover a mix of well-established and just suspected antisemitism, it seems like there are reasonable objections to Allegations of antisemitism on Wikipedia for being overly qualified, and I expect we'd see similar objections to Antisemitism on Wikipedia for lacking qualifications. Maybe Wikipedia and antisemitism is a reasonable middle ground, since it's vague enough to capture both well-established and suspected antisemitism.

Maybe we could separately consider possible alternatives to "antisemitism", like "anti-Jewish bias" which to me seems broader, capturing biases that are not rooted in hate. Maybe it's a bit wordy though.

Are there some other options you think might work well? — xDanielx ^T/_C\^R 23:44, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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