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Image that I uploaded

I don't know how to edit the image that i uploaded to change the website I got it from ect. Also, the website has no copyright restrictions. AtomicMarcusKitten (talk) 12:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

So my clear instructions at the top of this page are of no use as I see you have ignored it, so I must ask you questions. Which image are you talking about, and where did you get it from? Just because there is no copyright notice does not mean an image is freely licenced and useable by Wikpedia. You may find it useful to read my image copyright information page. If you want to add a source, just click on the edit button and fill in the URL of the page on which the image appears, not the image's URL. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 22:18, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Ok, Thank you. But there was no need to be soo snotty, seriously. I'm only 16, and not an experienced wikipedia user.AtomicMarcusKitten (talk) 23:02, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry you think I am snotty, so stay cool. I am very happy to help new and inexperienced editors but you need to help me first. There are many inexperienced uses are around and they provide the data needed, this is why I provide them with clear and useful instructions as guidance so they don't waste their time or mine and so that I don't have to ask redundant questions. You still did not link to the file you were asking about and I am not going to try to find it, which is why I politely ask you for that information and also show you how to link to the file. I was 16 once but then I made an attempt to provide as much information as possible so the person I was requesting help from could actually help me. Unfortunately in your case you are offended but I still have no information with which to help you. Remember we are all volunteers here. ww2censor (talk) 23:19, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Ok, ok. Well I don't know how to link you to the file. But the name of the file is File:Eternal flame.jpg. I've tried to fill it out, but it's confusing! How old are you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by AtomicMarcusKitten (talk • contribs) 23:42, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Ok, so you did it right by adding a source URL to the source field of the image. For the image you added above I added a colon (per the guidelines on my edit page), so you link to the image instead of displaying it. However it looks like http://www.nartube.net/5947759b07:V4AWj7w0nWc.html is the actual link to the image. Anyway I notice your "confusing" note on the image page. I know that for new editors many policies and guidelines are initially difficult to comprehend. We take copyright issues very seriously and that is why we notify uploaders of the problems. The image you uploaded is a non-free image, i.e., it is not freely licenced because, being a screenshot, it is copyright to someone, so according to policy such an image must comply with all 10 non-free content criteria and, based on my experience, this image certainly fails WP:NFCC#8 which has to do with the contextual significance of the image use. Basically, you must justify its use by telling us what is so special or important about any non-free image that cannot be explained by the prose and by its omission from the article it will be detrimental to the readers' understanding to the topic. I hope that explains it better for you. You are welcome to ask any questions you want and I will try to help you or tell you where or who to ask. BTW, several decades older then you!! ww2censor (talk) 02:21, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

File:Erin-sanders-dragon-premiere-18.jpg

I have no idea who took the photo, I got it from the iCarly Wiki. Confession0791 (talk) 04:37, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry but without a source and/or evidence that the image has a freely licenced copyright we cannot keep the image. ww2censor (talk) 15:25, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

I am fairly new to wikipedia, and that was my first upload. Could you give me some suggestions as to where to find a free image, and how to verify its source? Thanks, --Confession0791 (talk) 16:22, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Well welcome and happy editing. Finding freely licenced images of actors can be quite a challenge because most similar images you find online are taken by press photographers and are copyright. We only accept free images for living individuals. I checked for acceptable creative commons images on Flickr but none of the 34 millions images came up for Nathan Kress. If you do find a copyright image you can always ask the photographer to release the image under a free licence (by having then follow the procedure at WP:CONSENT) otherwise you need to look around a lot or try to attend an event where you or a friend can take a photo and release it under a free licence. You may find it useful to read my image copyright information page to understand some of the image problems that editors encounter. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 16:34, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Wrong Copyrights

Thanks for staying on top of my sometimes hasty image uploads. The images were uploaded some months ago. Surprised they lasted this long. Once again, my apologies. GWillHickers (talk) 18:02, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Mort Künstler

I received all these warnings about images to be deleted. I used them to illustrate a page and I have the permission from the copyright owner. I'm a regular person trying to illustrate a page as I explained. All these instructions with so many links, I don't know what to do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by LissetteP (talk • contribs) 13:33, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

But, you have not provided any evidence of the permission, per the very clear post I left on your talk page. If that is too complicated let me repeat it here: you must have the copyright owner send us their permission directly by following the procedure found at WP:PERMISSION because your statement that you have permission is not enough for us. ww2censor (talk) 13:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm back :) & thanks

Censor- Looks like you may have been watching my talk page (April 8 edit) - if so, thanks! 2 problems at the same time in January... New boss at work who restricted all 'non-necessary/non-work related' internet & computer use (complained that band-width use was too high), even after hours, which is when I did my wiki stuff. & my laptop computer died in the same week. Have now replaced the laptop, & can get back to work here. It'll take a while to work through the talk page, at least the stuff that's still relevant! Ciao - & keep up the good work. Skier Dude (talk) 04:10, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Murphy's Law indeed but good to see you are back in action. I did not really do much with the inquiry on your talk page but offered some advise which does not seem to have been acted on As I see that editor has not been back since. Good luck and don't piss off that new boss! I suppose you can't blame them in this day and age. ww2censor (talk) 23:18, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

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Repeated reversions of edit on List of people on stamps of Ireland

Your argument is that there is no confusion. My argument is that there is. Or certainly could be. If a reader who is not familiar with the history of the island were to read the article and take it at face value, they might get the wrong impression that the stamps were common throughout Ireland. The job of a research tool like Wikipedia is surely to ensure that everyone knows exactly and unambiguously what is being referred to when they read a given article. Not everyone is particularly computer-savvy, nor willing to investigate each and every blue highlighted word in every article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.15.120.132 (talk) 06:07, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

If you are going to change this, you had better do so for many hundreds of other which follow the Irish manual of style where this specific issue has been agreed by consensus, and specifically this section WP:IRE-IRL. ww2censor (talk) 12:37, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

If I change it again, will you change it back again? If I change many hundreds of others, will you also change all of them? In other words, is there any point? Consensus, or argumentun ad populum, isn't always the best way to go. Unambiguous information is surely important in a reference work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.15.120.132 (talk) 16:00, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

The use of the title "Ireland" v "Republic of Ireland" is controversial and has been the subject of years of discussion and argument as well as been to arbitration which is a reason why the manual of style lays out the useage of the terms in different circumstance. If you want to gain a new consensus contrary to the current one, you should start a discussion on the Irish manual of style talk page instead of just making changes that will likely be reverted by me or other users. ww2censor (talk) 16:07, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't see any controversy: to distinguish between Ireland and the two states that have jurisdiction in their respective parts of Ireland, the names Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland exist. These names offer no ambiguity. Consensus is, as I've already suggested, argumentum ad populum. I would suggest that, globally speaking, there might well be an inherent imbalance, leading to systemic bias. You describe the consensus just so, and I would submit to you that this is evidence of just such a bias. When ignoring the perfectly valid name of Republic of Ireland, so as to distinguish that state from the island or country or nation called Ireland, this strikes me as favouring a certain political ideology - over and above common sense and the delivery of an unambiguous reference work.

I note that you have a particular objection to people who refer to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, pre-1922, as the United Kingdom (in fact I don't think the country was renamed until 1925). Your view appears to be inconsistent though, considering the Kingdom of Ireland, and Ireland prior to that, is also referred to as Ireland. I wonder also how you feel about referring to the Irish Free State as Ireland.

I have no interest in starting a campaign in this place, and having undoubtedly to listen to a lot of people with entrenched political views arguing their point on a political basis, when common sense stares us in the face. I have tried to compromise with you, by putting in a note that basically stated that the government of the Republic of Ireland likes others to refer to the country as Ireland - undoubtedly political expediency in and of itself, and a biased source to say the least. But even that country's legislation provides for an alternative name - Republic of Ireland.

How come Wikipedia cannot take advantage of that provision? To arrive at a consensus, there must surely have been a head count - a voting process. The answer to that question therefore comes down to, as I suggest, political expediency and a systemic bias.

--94.15.120.132 (talk) 15:43, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Fenit

I'm going to revert your citation as it post-dates the disputed content. I think this is a bit of trade puffery on behalf of Fenit Harbour. Certainly the ports on the Azores and in Iceland are further west. It's quite possible your Afloat reference is the result of the same press release as the WP edit which put it in. Or they may have even read it on WP. I don't think its an adequate ref. Fmph (talk) 15:19, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

My edit did not state that Fenit was in Britain, but collectively referred to the western section of Europe; Britain, Ireland and Mainland Europe.. I am no longer connected with the commercial port of Fenit, however, it is an important piece of information relative to commercial, drilling, exploration etc. Whereas Iceland is politically part of Europe, it is questionable if it would be considered to be Europe in a geographical sense? Iceland is on the mid-Atlantic range, as indeed are the Azores. Could we agree on something like "With the exception of the outlying islands of Europe, Iceland and the Azores, Fenit is the most western commercial port" or "Geographically, Fenit is the most western port on the continental shelf of Europe."

Due to the Mercator Projections used in many atlases, at an initial glance, it would appear that Spain and Portugal are more westerly. If you refer to Google Earth and scroll due North and due South, you will not see any commercial harbour west of Fenit, except the offshore islands of Azores and Iceland. MOC MOC 10:49, 29 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fenitharbour (talk • contribs)

Either one of your suggested revisions seems fine and is accurate so long as the one used is supported by at least one reliable source. BTW, based on your association with Fenit you should familiarise yourself with WP:COI. Please sign your posts by adding four tildes at the end like this ~~~~. ww2censor (talk) 13:56, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Logo problem

Thanks for your message. I don't know what is wrong with the logo I uploaded. But anyway, I am not a fervent contributor to Wikipedia and honestly do not have the time for researching copyright laws, so if you think the file I have uploaded is violating copyright please go ahead and delete it. Karl Montague (talk) 04:27, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Assuming you are talking about File:ColumbiaUniversityShield.png did you notice the red text in the "Purpose of use" field that says: "No purpose specified. Please edit this image description and provide a purpose"? Also, in the tag on the image page the text starts with: "This file is claimed to be used under Wikipedia's policy for non-free content but has no explanation as to why it is permitted under the policy." Well that is the problem because you have to justify each and every use of a non-free image in any article and it needs fixing before the image is allowable. BTW, I don't delete images; that is an admin's job assuming they agree with the problem. Also being a non-free image, the size is too big but that is a minor issue.

Regarding File:ColumbiaUniversityLogo.png, you must have a fully filled out fair-use rationale for each and every use article it is used in. This one only has a rationale for one use, so it will be removed from the others if you don't add the rationale.

BTW don't post message to a user's main page, as you did with this post, please use the talk page as that is what it is for. You really don't need to research copyright laws but you may find it useful to read my image copyright information page. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 04:45, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Copyright on Images

Hi, I got a message regarding the copyright information in some of the images that I've posted here. Can you please explain me the reason for that? What I understand is that if the image is taken by me then the copyright remains with me. I've added the photograph in wikipedia so that it'll help the readers to know about the place and I'm not asking for any financial gain or anything of that sort. All I did was to have the copyright as the photograph was taken by me and I'm the owner of the photo. I think we photographers atleast should be allowed to have the due credit of a photograph taken by us. I don't see anything wrong in having a copyright credit on a photograph from my viewpoint but would like to know Wikipedia's viewpoint too. If there is a conflict in both and that can't be compromised then I'm ready to remove the images (or you can remove the images). Regards, Kaushik

PS : I'm not sure how the things are in other countries but here in India it's difficult to be a photographer as even big media companies lift images from the web without crediting the owner and use the images for commercial use. And so having a copyright is a must here to save our work from those type of people.

Kaushik s (talk) 21:12, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Image File:Conrad obrien-french kitzbuhel 300x299.jpg

Re: File:Conrad obrien-french kitzbuhel 300x299.jpg Conrad O'Brien-ffrench

Hello. I received a message from you regarding the above image. I am the creator of the original digital file. I worked with your copyright guidelines with assistance from Wiki reps and all copyright emailed permissions were processed twice. They assured me that everything was correct and complete. All documents were cleared with the family who sent copyright releases for "CC" clearances. All Wikipedia guidelines were followed. I received all documentation and was assured by Wiki reps that all was cleared and correct.

Did Wikipedia lose these records? I am not clear as to why the change. The family will not look favorably upon processing the records for a third time. I am not a regular on Wiki but work in television, radio and online media and am very familiar with copyright clearances and their importance.

How can I be certain that the documentation will not be lost again? Could you assign an expert to work with me in reprocessing these records? Do you need the emails again?

Thanks for your assistance, Cher Skoubo Cher Skoubo (talk) 03:46, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

The message on your talk page about this image was nine months ago and if you look at the image file (and its history) you will see that an OTRS ticket was applied to the image at that time. Where is the problem? Please don't display the image on user talk pages, just add a colon in front of the word "File", per the instructions at the top of this edit page to link to the image. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 15:06, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

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Townland lists

Thank you for re-coding the Talk Pages for my townland lists from stub to list (e.g. Talk:List of townlands of County Wexford). I had not known the list option was available. Now I have begun to use it. --O'Dea (talk) 22:45, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

You should probably join the WikiProject Ireland's assessment team if you write and/or want to assess Irish articles. You will find most everything you need at WP:IE/A including all our importance and quality criteria. Just ask if you have any questions. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 23:08, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Davy Stockbrokers

Many thanks for your help on the article on Davy which I recently started. I hope to be adding to this shortly. Well done also on your cool User Page. Best wishes, Skreen (talk) 15:10, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

You may find it useful to use the Reflinks toolserver to fill out some citations though I usually check each one for accuracy and add missing details it does not pick up automatically, such a author name, publisher's real name not just main url name, etc. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 15:18, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of William Russell Lane-Joynt

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Thanks for your comments. Please see talk page for another suggestion. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 08:49, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

How to get remaining two photos posted?

Thanks for your message...nice for a newbie to get some help. I think I made the same procedures for each of the 4 photographs but only two appear in the article. Any idea why the other two don't show? Also, I'd like these to be available for all on Wikimedia Commons, not just Wikipedia. What do I need to do to fix all of this/

On another note...of course when one knows what they are doing, things are easy. Are there any good tutorial/instructional videos to help new users learn more efficiently. I'm afraid to think about how much time it took to get a sense what to do and post just these two photos...it's mind boggling. Thanks for your guidance. Enviromet (talk) 20:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

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50 year old image

The image I uploaded is public domain as it was taken over 50 years ago. it is replacing a lower resolution version of the exact same image (look on the history of the article featuring the photo to see what I mean)

wikipedia has become a giant confusing mess and I don't have the time or patience to learn the insanity that should be as simple as a dropdown box to select "public domain"

feel free to tag the image as such, or explain it to me, because I - a computer science major and IT professional - can't figure it out.

thanks. Asaturn (talk) 01:30, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Actually it is not really that hard, even for an IT pro, which I was for several years. While you claim the image is in the public domain, you provided no evidence of this nor have you added a suitable copyright tag, besides which 50 years is not enough to put an image into the public domain. There is a simple drop down menu near the bottom of the upload page that provides most of the commonly used licences. In the US, except for some special exceptions, you must show that it was published before 1923 or that the author died over 100 years ago. Can you provide more information about any of those things? Unfortunately the burden of proof is on the uploader to provide the requested information but you did not even bother to link to the image in question, as clearly requested at the top of my edit page, nor to the edit where you claim a lower resolution was replaced in an article. If you can provide me with that information I may be able to help you better. BTW, you actually don't need to upload a new image under a new name if you are uploading a better version of an existing image (there is a "Upload a new version of this file" on each image page). What was that image? I can then look at the information it contained and see if something confirms our copyright requirements. If this image is not actually freely licenced it may be possible to use it under the fair-use doctrine because she is dead, so long as the image complies with all 10 Non-free content criteria. You may also find it useful to read my image copyright information page. I await your response, so I can help you. Hope that helps. ww2censor (talk) 02:15, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Picture Question

Hi. I was just curious. I wanted to post this picture here on an article. http://www2.netdoor.com/~campbab/kong/kkfrank.jpg The picture was first published in the book Willis O'Brien Special Effects Genius by Steve Archer. The photos were supplied by O'Brien's widow Darlyene (who has since passed away). Is it possible that I can post the pic on an article or does it violate some policy or guideline? The pic has appeared on various websites on the net as well. Giantdevilfish (talk) 23:02, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for asking before just uploading. According to the book's page on Amazon it was published in 1998 and without knowing the author or date of the photo, we cannot say it is freely licenced. Do you know when it was taken? Most likely taken pre-1933 when the King Kong movie was released but that makes it still copyright of the original author or his/her heirs and will remain so until 95 or 120 years after his death, unless you can show it was published pre-1964 but its copyright was not renewed or some other dates per commons:COM:L#United States). Do you know anything different about the image? Tineye does not show any hits for its use on any websites as you state. Can you show me? The current answer re use on Wikipedia is maybe, so give me some more info and we shall see. You may find it somewhat useful to read my image copyright information page. Get back to me when you can answer some of the questions. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 23:20, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi. The pic is from 1960. It was a sketch that Willis O'Brien did for a proposed film project called King Kong vs Frankenstein. Various sketches have been published in issues of Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine in the 1960's. These pics were all supplied by O'Brien's widow. If you do a google search for "King Kong vs Frankenstein" on the net you can see it posted on various other sites (mostly Kong sites) as well as other sketches from the planned project. Giantdevilfish (talk) 03:13, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok, so, unless you can show it was published previously, you have confirmed it is still a copyright image, however as Willis O'Brien is dead we need to know who is the current copyright holder which could well be his heirs, or a film studio or production company if the work was done for them. If you can confirm his widow owns the copyright, which incidentally has nothing to do with possession that confers no copyright status on the person owning a physical photograph or drawing, then I suggest you get her to send us her permission with a free licence. You can do this by having her follow the procedure found at WP:PERMISSION and send in her WP:CONSENT by email. Hope that helps. ww2censor (talk) 14:03, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi. As I mentioned in my first post she has since passed away. If I could add something, the pic contains no copyright or credit at all in the Steve Archer book I mentioned above (where it was published). I know that she supplied various pics from this unmade project to Forrey Ackerman and he published a few of them in Famous Monsters of Filmland in the 1960's. This is how I know that she owned them. But that pic contained no copyright or credit when it was first published.Giantdevilfish (talk) 16:33, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Ah I missed that she had died. Did he publish this image in the 1960s and if so what year? That could be important. Now her heirs would probably own the copyright and they may be able to provide permission otherwise I think you are out of luck. Many photos don't have copyright notices but that does not mean they are not copyright to someone. Copyright in most instances is assumed. ww2censor (talk) 16:51, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Willis O'Brien did not have any children with Darlyene. He had two children with his first wife whom she murdered in 1933. Darlyene was his second wife and they never had children. So I don't know if there are any heirs so to speak. As for the pics being posted earlier? That particular photo I don't believe was published in FMOF back in the 1960's, just other sketches from the same project.Giantdevilfish (talk) 02:43, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for William Russell Lane-Joynt

The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Layout on Wikiproject Motorcycling

Hi just noticed that the front page on the Wikiproject Motorcycling has gone wrong again - can you remember what we did to get rid of the white space? Thruxton (talk) 18:29, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Happy to help but Wikipedia:WikiProject Motorcycling looks ok to me. What exactly are you talking about? ww2censor (talk) 00:52, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I found out afterwards that the laptop I was using was set to 'zoom' so the welcome didn't start until after the table of contents but thanks anyway Thruxton (talk) 07:30, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

picture

I got the picture off of a website. how do I stop it from being deleted? ThatOneGuy 207-67 (talk) 00:30, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

What website did you get it from and what is the copyright status of the image. If it is not freely licenced, most likely we cannot use it and you cannot keep it. ww2censor (talk) 01:16, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

http://media1.pioneerlocal.com/multimedia/dp-mwhome-101107-pc.jpg_20071010_15_41_12_32-104-165.imageContent —Preceding unsigned comment added by ThatOneGuy 207-67 (talk • contribs) 01:26, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to be a pain but that link is to a much smaller version of the uploaded image, so it will not do. Show me the page this image was linked from, not just the image link, so I can see what the copyright status is. Your link is to a deep linked page which gives no info. ww2censor (talk) 01:35, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

http://www.pioneerlocal.com/mortongrove/sports/595527,dp-mwhome-101107-pc.fullimage —Preceding unsigned comment added by ThatOneGuy 207-67 (talk • contribs) 01:39, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Clearly this is a press photo with attribution to "Jason Brown/Staff Photographer" of the Sun Times Media group, so it is copyright and we cannot use it unless you can get the news organisation to release the image under a free licence, which is highly unlikely. Sorry but you are out of luck on this one. You may also find it useful to read my image copyright information page. In future please sign your posts by adding four tildes, like this ~~~~, to the end of your posts. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 13:41, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

then can't i just credit him with the picture?? ThatOneGuy 207-67 (talk) 15:17, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

No, it does not work like that. It is a copyright image, so we can't use it. Sorry. Next time they do this, go there and take a photo yourself, then upload it here under a free licence. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 15:26, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

how about this, i did a little research and i believe the copyright is until 2010. so will i be able to use the picture after dec. 31? ThatOneGuy 207-67 (talk) 22:25, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

What did you find out and where? I very much doubt what you say because US copyright does not expire that quickly after an image is taken. Show me what you found. ww2censor (talk) 00:51, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

http://www.pioneerlocal.com/mortongrove/sports/597054,MG-mwnnfbl-101107-s1.article at the bottom it reads "© Copyright 2010" —Preceding unsigned comment added by ThatOneGuy 207-67 (talk • contribs) 02:45, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

So do you think that the notice "© Copyright 2010" means the copyright expire in 2010? That notice is there to indicate there is a copyright on the content in 2010. It has nothing to do with the period of the copyright. As I stated above, the image is attributed to "Jason Brown/Staff Photographer" and is therefore copyright. That copyright will terminate 70 years after the death of the photographer per commons:COM:L#United States. ww2censor (talk) 14:54, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Image copyright help

Okay, so you say I need to clarify the copyright status for an image on "Lilliandil" for her character page. I stated where the image came from, Narniaweb. The photo on Narniaweb came from pictures from the german movie tie in Voyage of the Dawn Treader novel. Whats more to be said? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JDJ39 (talk • contribs) 20:35, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

While the image File:Narnia01564890-1-.jpg does have a source that source gives not indication of the copyright status. It appears to be a still from a movie and as such is likely copyright of the movie production company, you don't have their permission to use it and we don't accept copyright images. Sometimes movie screenshot can be used under fair-use so long as they comply with all 10 non-free content criteria and follow the guidelines for non-free content. You may also find it useful to read my image copyright information page. You have some work to do. Did you actually read the notice at the top of the edit page on how to link to an image and how to sign your posts? ww2censor (talk) 20:50, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh I see! I checked the copyright rules, and I looked at the images from other movie pics and saw how they were posted. I followed that format.

File:Bunyoro-king-ugandasolomonigurui.jpg

I thought I should let you know that I have removed both of your speedy deletion tags from this image since permission is not necessary as it has been uploaded as non-free (although I am still communicating via OTRS so that may change), and it does have a FUR, even though it is weak. I believe {{Di-disputed fair use rationale}} or FfD is the appropriate course of action at this point. VernoWhitney (talk) 13:55, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

As there is an OTRS pending, which was not there when I tagged it, I will leave it for now. Thanks for the notice. ww2censor (talk) 14:00, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

There's permission, but not for a free license. "No permission" still isn't an issue, though, so long as it's tagged appropriately as non-free content. VernoWhitney (talk) 14:48, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Copyright tagging for BirchGun.jpg

Hello, Could anyone offer some assistance with this copyright tagging? I'm having difficulty finding out how to physically tag the file I uploaded, and what tag to add. The image is scanned from an antique book in my own collection (published approximately 80 years ago in the UK - circa 1930). The photo itself has to be a minimum of 79 years old, as the vehicle was scrapped in 1931. The photo is credited to Gale & Polden - A printing/postcard firm that no longer exists, having being bought by Robert Maxwell's media group which went into liquidation in 1992 - almost 20 years ago. The photographer is not named - As was standard at the time. He'd have been on the G&P payroll. Given these factors, I would have thought it was free to use, and could be placed in the public domain, as many similar images are. Otherwise much of the historic subject matter on Wikipedia would have to remain unillustrated. I'd appreciate some help/advice/step-by-step instructions, as I'm finding this system less than intuitive! Regards, ByTheirWorks PS. I posted this on the Media Questions page before I realised I could message you direct - apologies for the duplication. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ByTheirWorks (talk • contribs) 16:23, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello

Do you mind if I "steal" your talk page notice? It's the red one that indicates where you reply. Thanks, -xwingsx- (talk) 04:46, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. You're welcome. I got it from BrownHairedGirl with her permission. You can modify it as you wish for position, text or color, etc. The code is:

<div style="margin-bottom: 3.25em;"><div style="position: absolute; bottom: 2.5em; right: 1em; font-style: italic; background-color:red; font-weight:bold; border: 1px dotted white; color:white; padding:0px 5px">If you leave a new message on this page, I will reply on this page unless you ask me to reply elsewhere.<br>If I leave a message on your talk page, I will continue to discuss that topic there. Thanks.</div>

Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 12:59, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I just noticed in Popups that you have over 55,000 edits. I guess all I can say is "thank you for your contributions." :P Anyway, do you use Popups? I think it's rather helpful. -xwingsx- (talk) 23:19, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Redlink

Hi, just saw a redlink in your edit summary maybe you want to see it if it's not just a spelling mistake [1] ~ R.T.G 21:49, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

At least someone else is watching Waterford Crystal. A simple spelling mistake! I meant to write WP:WTAF. ww2censor (talk) 01:42, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

See the talk page for Rory Gallagher- I left you a message

Hi, I saw your questions about my removal of a photo of Rory Gallagher that I'd uploaded. I answered it on the article talk page. I did get the approval of one of the Admins. both in Wikipedia and Commons- have a look and you'll see why. On another note, I see that the article is rated a B-level article for the two Ireland-related Wikigroups there. I currently agree that while his importance is high, that it's really only a C-level article. There's so much more about the man that has never been touched upon. What do you think? Please respond on my talk page. Also, I have a bunch of both Rockpalast and other interviews (like from radio stations) on video, which are really solid; although they are found on You Tube, which normally I try to avoid, but some are critical to answering some urban myths. For example, one (in detail) has Rory's brother Donal talking about Rory Gallagher's offer to join the Rolling Stones after the departure of Mick Taylor, and another where Donal mentions how Rory was increasingly insecure about his appearance as the medications prescribed for hia fear of flying bloated him and eventually, may have contributed to his need of a liver transplant, which failed. Thanks! --Leahtwosaints (talk) 00:41, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

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I'm just a little confused wiki-newb, help help ;-) Skibden (talk) 13:55, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Regarding an image that I uploaded

Regarding File:Orme.JPG and File:Judgegregoryorme.JPG, I got permission from him to use the image and put it in the public domain. File:Orme.JPG reflects this while File:Judgegregoryorme.JPG does not. How can I tag the latter for deletion, as it is the one that fits? I wasn't able to select "Public Domain" for the creation of File:Judgegregoryorme.JPG.

On a different note, I'm planning to use said image File:Orme.JPG in an infobox, but embedding the image produces text around it that I don't want, while using the infobox format scales the image and makes it grainy. Do you have any idea as how to make it appear in an unscaled size in the infobox?

User:SeanPatterson121288

I'd also like the text that appears when you hover over the image to be his name, rather than my username.

Much obliged, SeanPatterson121288 (talk) 01:43, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

So let me try to help you with some of the issues. First I have added some of the "judge parameters for the infobox on your user page which has fixed the image size by defining the image size to be the same as the maximum image size that you uploaded. Without defining the size, the image will automatically scale to fit the maximum size of the infobox but your image is so small that it upscales the image giving your a fuzzy appearance. Your user page name appears when you hover over the image because the article is in your userspace and not named after the person the article. When it is published in wiki mainspace the name will then be the title of the article.

Second, the image File:Orme.JPG has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2010 October 20#File:Orme.JPG because someone saw that the Utah court source page does not confirm the public domain status that you claimed, so the image looks like it is copyright. I have added my comments there. When someone releases an image into the public domain that is published elsewhere, the copyright holder, which may not even be the judge, must send us their permission directly by following the procedure found at WP:PERMISSION because we don't just accept your word for this as many editors make false statements, which I am sure is not your intention. We need to know who took the photo and who owns the copyright, then the copyright holder must understand that in releasing an image into the public domain anyone can use it for any purpose including commercial use.

Lastly, usually an editor's user page is used to add information about yourself instead of using it as a draft page for the preparation of future articles. Editors usually start a user subpage or sandbox, by adding a new name after their own name like this User:SeanPatterson121288/Sandbox. You could just cut and paste the article into the page I have redlinked to. Hope that helps but you might also read my image copyright information page for a better understanding of some of the issues you may find. Good luck ww2censor (talk) 05:16, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I appreciate it.--SeanPatterson121288 (talk) 16:31, 20 October 2010 (UTC)SeanPatterson121288 —Preceding unsigned comment added by SeanPatterson121288 (talk • contribs) 16:26, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Donya ye Bazi image

I am a god damn Iranian and I know about the copyright law and I'm also a god damn staff writer of that god damn magazine I've talked to the editor in chief before. Iran is not a member of WTO and Iran is not participating in international copyright laws. File:Donya_ye_Bazi_The_First_Iranian_Game_Magazine.jpg

eric_hack (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:11, 21 October 2010 (UTC).

There is a lot a god's damning going on over there in Iran according to you. As you already know the image is not up for speedy deletion, it is being discussed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2010 October 20#File:Donya ye Bazi The First Iranian Game Magazine.jpg so it is unnecessary to add more comments here. If you have more points to make please do so there, so that other editors may see your comments. Copyright law has nothing to do with Iran being a member of the WTO or not and from what you are saying above it appears you are calling the Iranian Ministry of Science and Education a liar even though he confirms that copyright does exist for Iran, but that is up to you if you disagree with your minister's own confirmation. Iran is a party to treaties administered by the World Intellectual Property Organisation whether you like it or not. Just look at page 207 of this WIPO document. ww2censor (talk) 12:30, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

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Deletion Problem FIXed

I think I fixed the problem for this: File:Bernard_Tschumi_Architect.jpg please take a look at. eric_hack (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:12, 27 October 2010 (UTC).

How? There is still no permission from the copyright holder. Uploading the same copyright image from a different website does not FIX anything. Besides which the website you took the new image from clearly shows the unacceptable non-commercial Creative Commons licence (bottom left of webpage). It appears that you don't really understand image copyright issues so you might find it useful to read my image copyright information page. BTW there is no need to display the image on my page, just link to it by placing a colon immediately before the word "File" and sign you posts by adding four tildes, like this ~~~~ at the end of your message, so we can find you easily. ww2censor (talk) 15:31, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to do stupid things on your page. I changed the picture for Limoges_Concert_Hall.I found it on Wikimedia Commons. The others can now be deleted. And the word "license" has got an "S" inside.Eric hack (talk) 16:08, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Happy to help you and get you on the right direction. At least you did look around for another image but actually that image you found has a problem because there is no freedom of panorama so that image will likely also be deleted, but that is not your fault. Why not ask Bernard Tschumi for a freely licenced image? If so, get them to follow the procedure found at WP:CONSENT. BTW, licence is the British English spelling and license is the American English spelling. Good luck ww2censor (talk) 16:19, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Michael Feeney (MBE)

Hi I am 'rescuing' Michael Feeney (MBE) (tagged for deletion) and would be grateful if you can have a look and see what you can add or improve wyham Thanks Thruxton (talk) 15:10, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry but I have no more sources or knowledge than is already there. ww2censor (talk) 15:44, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

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File copyright problem with File:İstanbul kapı numarası.jpg

I took that photo, but why will delete that? What can i do? *** Эɱ®εč¡κ *** ^{...and his friends} 15:11, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

This image is very poor quality being completely out-of-focus it should be replaced with a sharp image. Can you do that? I don't want the image to be deleted without good reason but you did not apply a copyright tag to the image as is required. That allows us to verify under what licence it can be used and many photographers release their images into the public domain by adding this template {{PD-self}} to the image. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 15:27, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

now i added copyright tag... *** Эɱ®εč¡κ *** ^{...and his friends} 15:33, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Microsoft Fix It Center Screenshot

On Microsoft's web site (at this page: http://www.microsoft.com/About/Legal/EN/US/IntellectualProperty/Permissions/Default.aspx#ERG), this is what they say about screen shots:

Screen shots You may not use screen shots of Microsoft product boot-up screens, opening screens, "splash screens," or screens from beta release products or other products that have not been commercially released. You may use other screen shots in advertising, in documentation (including educational brochures), in tutorial books, in videotapes, or on Web sites, provided that, in addition to the requirements above, you:

  1.Do not alter the screen shot except to resize it.
  2.Do not use portions of screen shots.
  3.Do not include screen shots in your product user interface.
  4.Do not use screen shots that contain third-party content.
  5.Do not use screen shots that contain an image of an identifiable individual.

So this screen shot is OK to use then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JoThousand (talk • contribs) 14:12, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

You have had response to your contribution on Msrasnw's talkpage

Dear, Ww2censor. You have a repsonse to your note at User_talk:Msrasnw#Orphaned_non-free_image_File:DublinersStamp2006.jpg. Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 16:55, 4 November 2010 (UTC))

File:Daihatsu Sirion Rally 4.jpg

Hi and thank you for bringing to my attention my errors when uploading my image to Wikipedia. I am green to this, in fact this was my first attempt! file:Daihatsu_Sirion_Rally_4.jpg

I took the photo myself and it's my car too. I have chosen {{Attribution}} as the most suitable copyright license tag. What do you think? Have I added it correctly? How do I get the image to show again as it's currently no longer showing for me. Thanks for your help - goosegog Goosegog (talk) 20:22, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Happy to help. I have added a full {{information}} template, that should normally be placed in all free images, because it lays out the full details needed, and I filled it out for you. What do you mean by the image is no longer showing for you? With this edit you added the image properly to Daihatsu Sirion and it is showing there. You may also find it useful to read my image copyright information page for some wider views on copyright. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 01:22, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks. Now that I have an image I can refer to, I know how it should be done. The image is showing again now, must just have been a glitch. Thanks for your user guide link also Goosegog (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:55, 5 November 2010 (UTC).

File:Robert Garside Tokyo.jpg

Hi, please would you delete this file ma'an, sorry, it was an error. Dromeaz (talk) 19:07, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

I added the {{db-author}} template that you can use in future. ww2censor (talk) 19:50, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

PUF comment

I think your delete !vote here was placed in the wrong section, FYI. VernoWhitney (talk) 13:16, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Brainfart! You got me, so I moved it. ww2censor (talk) 13:31, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

I guessed as much, but I didn't want to be so bold as to move it. Cheers! VernoWhitney (talk) 13:37, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Clive Hamilton Photo deletion

In regards to this image File:Hamilton Clive 07.JPG - Clive Hamilton himself sent me the image and I am awaiting copyright information from him directly. Please refrain from deleting for 24 hours to allow time to attain information- I WILL be posting it ASAP.

Esmeralda.rupp Esmeralda.rupp (talk) 05:51, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't actually delete images and it will be at least a week before that happens but even if it does it can be restored when the permission arrives. I mention this, as the OTRS volunteers have about a month's backlog. You need to get the copyright holder to send their permission directly to us by having them follow the procedure found at WP:CONSENT. We don't accept editor's say so that they have received permission from a third party, but once permission is received an OTRS ticket will be attached to the image. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 06:02, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

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Reply to speedy deletion nomination of File:MOT-Droid-Pro.jpg

Thanks for the message, I'll be contacting Motorola to clear up the issue and request use of the file. I believe under the terms and conditions given by them, however, it is allowed for the use in the Motorola Droid Pro article. Thanks again, I'll contact Motorola regarding the issue. --=BlueFish35!^talk/_contribs 02:07, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

We don't accept non-commercial use of images and I doubt they will give you any other free licence that we cna use. You may find it useful to read my image copyright information page. Good luck ww2censor (talk) 02:09, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I understand this, however, HTC Corporation has a similar policy regarding images that they've released, but when asked by a fellow Wikipedia as to whether or not permission to use said pictures was allowed, HTC allowed the use of the images under a set of terms they had outlined. --=BlueFish35!^talk/_contribs 02:13, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I would be surprised if any of HTC's images, under a non-commercial licence, were accepted here without question. Do you have links to such images? Thanks ww2censor (talk) 02:17, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Regarding "File copyright problem with File:ARID Logo.jpg"

Thank you for the alert. I think I have fixed it, but I am really new to this so I would appreciate you looking to see if it is okay. (: Timothy Hawkins-Heathco (talk) 04:16, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

The copyright tag looks ok, but I have to ask you a couple of questions. Was this logo made for the organisation and if so who really owns the copyright, you or the druids? If they own the copyright then you cannot claim the copyright you attached to the image, which I have found at the bottom of this page. If you actually own the copyright then it is fine. The image also looks like a derivative work of the similar logo found on this webpage. So what's the story with the two logo? Usually logos are owned by the organisations even if no copyright notice is on the website. You may find it useful to read my image copyright information page, but ask any questions if you need to. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 16:40, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. You are right, the webpage you found is the same organization as the logo. I did make the logo, but you are right that it is their property. Presuming that they will agree it should be in the public domain, what documentation or such is needed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Timothy Hawkins-Heathco (talk • contribs) 17:07, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Usually logos are used in the infobox of articles about the organisation, not in your user space per non-free content criteria, under the fair-use doctrine, where a fully completed fair-use rationale must be completed as well as adding the {{non-free logo}} template to that image. However, if the organisation agrees to release the logo into the public domain or under a free Creative Commons licence, such as {{cc-by-sa-3.0}}, but to do that they will have to send their WP:CONSENT directly to us, which most organisation don't do, because it means that anyone can use it for anything or they can add a free licence statement to the webpage where the image is located. Hope that helps. ww2censor (talk) 17:22, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you again for your time. I am pretty sure the copyright is okay now. The logo will be used in an INFOBOX. We are working on an article. (-; Timothy Hawkins-Heathco (talk) 00:28, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

That all looks good now. Great work. Thanks for the cooperation. ww2censor (talk) 02:52, 16 November 2010 (UTC)