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I talk to myself since no one would talk to me, i have no cat, i'm getting old now, and all my friends from early on in life have settled into seperate lives, my family live some-where else, and also i am alone

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/confidence Whalestate (talk) 02:14, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

i hope u like this song Whalestate since, you are so alone, so terribly alone, living in a forest Whalestate (talk) 02:14, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

just me again saying hey! how's about this one.... it's really good! really! laubaz Whalestate (talk) 14:36, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

the end is always true

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Things i said today to my self while looking at the laptop screen

i delete it all, shoot the cat, then sit down for a cup of tea watch the t.v. and settle down for the evening. Whalestate (talk) 19:54, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

... such a goog, idk Whalestate (talk) 21:27, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

u is such a pilchard Whalestate (talk) 15:07, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

idk what yr saying 2 me Whalestate (talk) 23:47, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

the most rid-ic-ulous occurrence of my life .... was that Whalestate (talk) 01:09, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

i think u stink Whalestate (talk) 15:14, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

... i wanted him to stick around, but that's okay, i'm getting used to talking to myself now, i can talk to myself all day long Whalestate (talk) 22:11, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

and then they'll hate me, [and] [won't] [want] [to] [be] [my] [friend] (which i said twice) Whalestate (talk) 22:06, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

yes i like curry, and cats too, but not curried cats Whalestate (talk) 18:30, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

bundle theory ... Whalestate (talk) 21:43, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

20,20.....things I said to my computer Whalestate (talk) 05:04, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

his only work was to stick it up your butt - Whalestate (talk) 05:16, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

memo

see DYSlexia Whalestate (talk) 01:40, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

rm 104 - knock on the door (I did.(...is a true story. ... ) The end.) Whalestate (talk) 05:54, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

5,615,690 black Whalestate (talk) 13:58, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

[1] - (bio) Whalestate (talk) 05:51, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

[2] - (wikipedia article) Whalestate (talk) 05:56, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

[3] - (c.f. home) Whalestate (talk) 05:43, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

id=gay

c.f. - https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=gay_i14p9oEC&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+anabasis+of+alexander+Arrian&hl=en&sa=X&ei=rPkfVeyEDs_baviugOAI&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=The%20anabasis%20of%20alexander%20Arrian&f=false is really gay, how gay, he is gay, it is gay (so they say) Whalestate (talk) 14:54, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Arrian

this is, some how, the year of my birth - 19:03, 5 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+1,977) Whalestate (talk) 19:05, 5 April 2015 (UTC)‎

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I notice you made some minor changes to this article, but it is still not written in your own words, just copied with minor amendments. That means that if you continue to present it as your own work, you are still plagiarising it. You may believe that you are free to do so if the copyright has expired, but that is not so; you are still presenting it as your own work. Please read Wikipedia:Plagiarism; I recommend that you read it all but you will be particularly interested in the section on copying material from free sources. A quick glance at your contribution history indicates that you need to stop adding material until you have gone back over your previous work and provided proper attribution on a significant number of other articles, including Onomacles. NebY (talk) 21:47, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

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Socrates

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Nomination of The portable monkey for deletion

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memo to myself #13 Whalestate (talk) 15:34, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Disambiguation backlog

Hello, and thanks for your message. I'm happy to help; where should we start? Let's keep the discussion here on your page. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:44, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

@Ssilvers: Hello, and thanks, i'm a little pressed for time at the moment, so i'll get back to you some time later today. Whalestate (talk) 16:32, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

OK, good. A good place for us to start would be with all the Disambiguation link notices above on this page. Do you understand them? You do not seem to have responded to them. -- 18:18, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes i know what they are. I haven't done anything about them yet no. Hmmm i just .... didn't feel inclined to do anything, and actually, in classical history sometimes it's difficult to know the answer to who is who because of the nature of the evidence being so old ... so i felt disinclined at the time to do anything, which isn't really the correct choice i know, but the articles which they are in are quite minor imortance/significance, and the Socrates article i was involved in is rated High importance, so solving them wasn't really a priority. Whalestate (talk) 22:42, 21 April 2015 (UTC) correction of previous - not < High > , > Vital importance. Whalestate (talk) 02:04, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi. It is very important to point links to the correct article. For example, in The Valori family, you added a link to Pope Leo. Which Pope Leo? In Socrates, you added links pointing to The Republic and Apology, both of which need to be disambiguated. When you add ambiguous links, you are creating vagueness in the articles and making work for other editors who may be less familiar than you with the subject matter. Would you please make an effort to disambiguate at least those links listed above for which you can easily do so? This is something very helpful that you can do for the encyclopedia. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:06, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

those links in Socrates are gone, with a reversion on April 11th Whalestate (talk) 06:41, 22 April 2015 (UTC) I've defined the Valori link now Whalestate (talk) 06:54, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

That's a start. The others in your backlog are as follows:

• When you edited Posidonius, you added an ambiguous link pointing to the disambiguation page Seneca.*
• Alopece: you added a link pointing to Pausanias <-- this was already located correctly Whalestate (talk) 02:00, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
• Sophroniscus: --> Euthydemus <-- this was already located correctly Whalestate (talk) 03:22, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
• Arrian: Alexander III, Syncellus and George Long
• The Anabasis of Alexander: Alexander III, Asclepiades and Aristobulus
• Seneca the Younger: Pliny and Dio
• Arrian: Nilus and Simplicius
• Autolycus: Pausanias
• Oebares: Cyrus
• Oetosyrus: Hesychius
• Onomacles: Phrynichus
• The Anabasis of Alexander: Henry Stephens
• Socrates: Nomos

The best thing to do is to clear up disambiguation notices right away; then you don't build up a big backlog. Note this old notice also: "...A quick glance at your contribution history indicates that you need to stop adding material until you have gone back over your previous work and provided proper attribution on a significant number of other articles, including Onomacles. NebY (talk) 21:47, 12 April 2015 (UTC)"

Did you have some referencing questions for me? The key thing about referencing is that every reference should contain the author's name (last name first), the title of the work, the name of the publisher, the date published and either the url or the page number where the information appears (or both, if available). Let me know what other questions you have. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 07:19, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Onomacles - 01:51, 23 April 2015‎ Whalestate (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (1,480 bytes) (-4)‎ . . (unlinked 1 link because it leads to a disambiguation page, which identifies and shows details of the figure, but has no article written upon him) Whalestate (talk) 01:52, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

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WP:POLCON

@Ssilvers: I think the reason why Myrvin suggested I submit to mentorship might be for reasons of understanding citation, this might be the best place to start.I'm providing Socrates and The Socratic problem as evidence, but this particular issue is resolved, it's just the indication of my failing to understand the correct procedure or way of doing things which was a concern for Myrvin, as I understand it. I'm interested to know your opinion on this WP:POLCON, which in my own investigations i've located. Whalestate (talk) 02:01, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi. I'm happy to give opinions, but I'm not sure what you are asking me. Can you explain please? Start at the beginning. BTW, you don't need to ping me, because I am watching your talk page. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:09, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

POLCON shows

- policy and/or guideline pages directly conflict, one or more pages need to be revised to resolve the conflict so that all of the conflicting pages accurately reflect the community's actual practices and best advice.

- More commonly, advice pages do not directly conflict, but provide multiple options....

is difficult to rely on as stable and clear basis for knowing how to edit, yet I've been directed to mentorship (which I don't at all object to, btw, because I need to have someone to talk to about these kinds of things actually, instead of trying to hash out an understanding through an article) but POLCON doesn't provide the best hope of a conflict free mutual understanding, because there is no strict policy, and who has the dominant say in the matter, when there is disagreement?) Whalestate (talk) 07:05, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Are you asking me how to resolve a disagreement about content in an article? The FIRST thing to do is to discuss the issue on the article's Talk page, and to very clearly explain why you made the changes that you did, point by point. If other editors disagree, they may revert your changes and then explain on the Talk page why they think the changes were not helpful. If you still disagree, then the NEXT step is to try to get more editors to participate in the discussion and try to build a WP:CONSENSUS. Wikipedia essentially works by consensus. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 07:26, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm not asking that, I was just thinking that because disagreement on an issue of citation and verifiability has occurred (Talk:Socrates), how am I or anyone else to fall back on policy, when there is the possibility of policy guidelines being in conflict on different pages. I've noticed there is conflictual points of view and advice, which can't be solved, because no one policy supercedes another. In at least respect to the 5th pillar (WP:5) ... I'm thinking everyone needs to just have a working relationship and compromise really, I suppose it is just a matter of knowing the way things are done usually, and putting aside pre-conceptions on how editing should be done. Whalestate (talk) 03:48, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, exactly: You need to compromise and reach a consensus on the Talk page before making new edits based on those compromises. Please take a look at WP:CONSENSUS. Rules and policies are a means to an end, which is the creation of good content and a community of editors that cooperate well together. Newer editors often focus on guidelines and WP:Wikilawyering, but that is bad for the encyclopedia. See also WP:BRD. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:03, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Socratic problem

I reverted your good faith edits to Socratic problem. I'm sure you have good intent, but the page was just painful to read as it was. Visit the talk page for more on why. Psychotic Spartan 123 07:04, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

I undid my revert. The problems with this page can easily be addressed without greatly changing the article. I'll create I bibliography section and we can move from there. I apologize. Psychotic Spartan 123 08:20, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

no war necessary, what a relief. Whalestate (talk) 08:24, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

what-what?....Spartan - I'll try harder next time, because there is sometimes gain in pain, and psychotic folk might learn more to be sane, because all of us do wax and wane, and there is no one to really blame, for everyone needs learn the same :) Whalestate (talk) 08:50, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Nice analogy :) I'm just gonna back away from the page for now, because although we could improve references and structure that would require me to know about the subject. Which I don't. With regards, Psychotic Spartan 123 19:38, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

weird moments in the wonderful world of wiki

07:28, 25 April 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+2,301)‎ . . m User:Whalestate ‎ (→‎curation: after before) (current)

Withdrawing

Sorry, I do not think I can help you. I do not know how to advise you on encyclopedic style, and I am frankly alarmed by nearly all of your edits. I really advise you to stop editing until you have found someone who can help you. I am unwatching your page and will not post here further. I would appreciate it if you did not post on mine. All the best, and once again, I am sorry. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:19, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Marcia Farquhar

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A tag has been placed on Marcia Farquhar requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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@Largoplazo: Marcia is married to Jem Finer, who is one of the founding members of The Pogues. Whalestate (talk) 02:59, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Notability is not inherited. Surely you wouldn't expect that for every married person about whom Wikipedia has an article, the person's spouse warrants an article as well just on that account. —Largo Plazo (talk) 03:02, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

As far as Farquhar herself goes, the article gives the impression that, with one exception, her body of work lives on her own website. That doesn't lead me to think that she might warrant an encyclopedia article. —Largo Plazo (talk) 03:03, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

@Largoplazo: no I don't expect that, but she is of interest to the public through her association with a significant figure, and also has her own independent existence which is of interest ... She is active as an artist in the capital city of England so is significant in that respect. Speedy deletion is totally unnecessary, you would need to have something which is blatantly irrelevant, nonsense, defamatory ... how is the partner of a famous person, who is herself an artist active in London a matter of immediate deletion? An encylopedia is by definition meant to have a encyclopedial scope, your telling me of 4,858,644 articles written, someone who is of interest to artists and those involved in art history and culture, wouldn't find it interesting?How many of 4,858,644 articles are vitally important and of core significance to the world? I've only just created it ... your judgement is based on the first effort ??? Whalestate (talk) 03:14, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

"Speedy deletion is totally unnecessary, you would need to have something which is blatantly irrelevant, nonsense, defamatory". Incorrect. Those would be WP:CSD A1, WP:CSD A2, WP:CSD G10. This is WP:CSD A7. As for being an artist, millions of people are artists but have achieved no note for being such. Being in London adds nothing to it. —Largo Plazo (talk) 03:33, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

@Largoplazo: I know you must not know of art and contmporary art, because if you did you would be aware of the fact that art and artists tend to congregate around capital cities or major cities, so in the least, since she is based in Berlin and London, this would demonstrate her having some significance.(Just to mention, wealthy individuals live and work in capital cities, wealth exists there, and art-works are a luxury, so galleries exist in capital cities for wealthy individuals to purchase works, is the reason why art tends to exist in capital cities). Whalestate (talk) 03:21, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but no, not unless there's some sort of official committee whose approval is required to allow artists to live in those cities, and whose approval might be considered "note". If you are under the impression that every artist in Berlin and London rates a Wikipedia article, or would even be considered "significant" by anybody, just by virtue of creating art in Berlin or London, you're mistaken. —Largo Plazo (talk) 03:33, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

WP:INHERIT - "In addition, notability of a parent entity or topic (of a parent-child "tree") does not always imply the notability of the subordinate entities. That is not to say that this is always the case (four of the notability guidelines, for creative professions, books, films and music, do allow for inherited notability in certain circumstances), or that the subordinate topic cannot be mentioned in the encyclopedia whatsoever." https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Creative_professionals Whalestate (talk) 03:27, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

She is not the work of a creative professional. She is not a book, a film, or a piece of music. The exceptions are inapplicable. If there's some reason why she would be mentioned in the article on her husband, then that is where she can be mentioned (which is the point of that clause, not that there can be an article about her). —Largo Plazo (talk) 03:41, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

If I could just be excused from continuing with this, since it's 04:30 hours here, I have to proceed to be asleep in bed (my next point in this argument is to be asleep actually) I haven't established whether she meets the criteria as shown in my responses, and if you decide otherwise i.e. delete I'll just proceed to look to source more for a future article. Whalestate (talk) 03:33, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

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List of persons and things mentioned in the Epic of Gilgamesh

Just a head's up: Wikipedia isn't a dictionary, and we don't write lists of definitions or concordances here. Wiktionary has this feature, however, at Wiktionary:Concordances. Woodroar (talk) 07:08, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

@Woodroar: well, yes, I thought it might be useful as an attachment to the main article, I don't know. There actually are articles already existing which are entitled List of.... (or else I wouldn't have proceeded with this article) just type in List (as you know already) and you will see for yourself, Whalestate (talk) 07:12, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

There are list articles in each letter alphabetically up to h (i stopped at h since I have to do something else for a while) - but I dare say there are articles for every letter. Whalestate (talk) 07:18, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Oh yeah, we definitely have plenty of list articles, but they serve a different purpose. Usually, they act as a single page to connect or navigate to multiple articles, like List of post-rock bands. We also have glossaries which consolidate terms from a variety of articles, like Glossary of nautical terms. (See MOS:LIST for more.) They're basically a way for us to classify or organize a large number of articles on one single page, and ideally they should be based on reliable sources. But the problem with concordances is redundancy: we already have an article on the Epic of Gilgamesh, and we should be defining important terms in that article. (If necessary, we can link to Wiktionary for a more thorough definition, because that's what Wiktionary is for.) And if we've got some words that are used so infrequently in the Epic of Gilgamesh or are really unimportant overall, then we either don't include them or we put them in the see also section. And that usually depends on what kind of emphasis reliable sources give those specific words. Now if the Epic of Gilgamesh consisted of dozens or hundreds of books and we had articles on each of them, then it's possible we would also need some kind of glossary. But a single-article-subject doesn't need a separate article for definitions.

This isn't even getting into the fact that, per our notability requirements, we need multiple reliable sources about the subject for an article to exist. So we're not talking the Epic of Gilgamesh itself, but rather scholarly sources about "persons and things mentioned in the Epic of Gilgamesh". In other words, a glossary article must be sourced to multiple reliable glossaries that tell us what's important, what we should (and shouldn't) cover. Going through the Epic of Gilgamesh and deciding for yourself what to include is original research, which we should never do.

Also, a funny thing about the ping template is that it doesn't work unless you add the template at the same time as your signature. I saw that you replied because I'm watching your page, however. I hope this helps. Cheers! Woodroar (talk) 08:18, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

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@Epìdosis: 21:47, 15 May 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+13)‎ . . m Obultronius Sabinus ‎ (made link Quaestor|quaestor aerarii (User:Epìdosis edit 20:04, 15 May 2015 returned my attention to the article‎)) - It transpired I benefited as a result of your attention to articles I've contributed to, & thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into it a.s.a.p. (though I don't know Italian unfortunately, just French). Whalestate (talk) 10:33, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

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These same men, if we may believe the Athenians, during their stay at Delphi persuaded the Pythoness by a bribe to tell the Spartans, whenever any of them came to consult the oracle, either on their own private affairs or on the business of the state, that they must free Athens. So the Lacedaemonians, when they found no answer ever returned to them but this, sent at last Anchimolius, the son of Aster- a man of note among their citizens-...

Yes, perhaps I was in a hurry at the time to move on to something else thinking Anchimolius to be a subject of relatively minor import, is the reason for the oversight, or else I would have for sure taken more care; or I was feeling tired at the time perhaps and therefore just simply made an error (I wouldn't usually take such a risk though, of editing while likely to make such an error through tiredness), I've now amended the article accordingly. Like yourself, I'm routinely careful to convey accuracy in any case, for my own future benefit as for others. Thanks Whalestate (talk) 08:55, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

... bribed the Pythian priestess to bid any Spartans who should come to inquire of her on a private or a public account to set Athens free. [2] Then the Lacedaemonians, when the same command was ever revealed to them ...

As I recall from the time, the mis-understanding / mis-interpretation on my part arose due to the translation same command was ever revealed to them being a reference to the utterings of the Oracle, since I tend to think the Oracles' statements (what little knowledge I confess to having of the subject) to be more suggestions or fore-tellings rather than commands (a command indicating a miltary order or such like obviously, instead), coupled with my unfamiliarity with Lacedaemonian referring to Sparta of course. So a combination of all these things contributed to the error. Still the translation including command then reveal, was mis-leading perhaps, since the command was for a deceit, therefore the revealing, which is meant to refer to an insight into reality from the Pythia, was instead only the communication of subterfuge. Whalestate (talk) 09:30, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

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Magical texts reference style

Please don't keep changing your reference style in the article. Ideally, keep using the {{cite}} style.

It is not:

J.A. Wilson (University of Chicago). text (p.118). published by University of Chicago Press, October 17, 2013, ISBN 022614822X. Retrieved 2015-12-14.

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J.A. Wilson (University of Chicago) (October 17, 2013). The Culture of Ancient Egypt. University of Chicago Press. p. 18. ISBN 022614822X. Retrieved 2015-12-14.

1. Title is not "text p 118", it is the book's title.
2. Publisher doesn't include date and isbn number.
3. There is a page field.
4. Don't use https://books.google.co.uk, use https://books.google.com. Using the co.uk address forces everybody in the world to go thru the UK site. Using the .com transfers to the site closest to the person.

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You are still doing this, see Greek divination. Please stop. You are still doing cite templates incorrectly and you keep changing reference style. Please follow the instructions given at {{cite book}} Bgwhite (talk) 06:38, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

I corrected the cite templates at Magical texts and you went ahead reverted some of my edits and continued to do it wrong. Bgwhite (talk) 06:42, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

You are still doing it. STOP! Please do it the correct way. You are doing it wrong, thus causing problems and is creating work for other people. This is your final warning. Bgwhite (talk) 09:12, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

@Bgwhite: Sorry, I didn't see this until edit 21:40, 24 December 2015‎, and thought 07:06, 15 December 2015 (UTC) was the last of your messages. You could have pinged me because I haven't been given notifications of your messages, or else my computer malfunctioned, I saw two messages notification briefly prior to signing in, but when I signed in there was no notification so I presumed the notification to be a computer anomaly Whalestate (talk) 21:48, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Messages left on your talk page automatically leaves a notice. Has done for years in various forms. Discussions are usually kept in one spot. If a new message is not at the bottom, then it is elsewhere on your talk page. Bgwhite (talk) 21:55, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

I just reverted your edits because you didn't preserve the content in your correcting of references, so I just ploughed through to my next edit, since reference style is your priority in the article, but adding content is my priority, so I didn't prioritize your edits, sorry again 'bout this. In any case, https://books.google.com, where do I find this? I have to go through every url and convert the url manually? because the urls here automatically return as .co.uk? I already respected your instruction (07:06, 15 December 2015) on Title is the book title and not the page number (in the large majority of previous I was already doing this, but changed very recently to making to page number the title. There isn't any reason to check my referencing on account of this factor.) In any case it is no problem for me to continue in the manner you've shown, I just presumed the difference was unimportant compared to the importance of rapidly making articles more complete. I'll just template as you've shown at 07:06, 15 December 2015 (UTC), sorry about the inconvenience, I was just blinded to the issue by having my focus elsewhere. Whalestate (talk) 21:58, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

In any case I'll go through the edits in Magical texts and convert them to the template format you instructed. Whalestate (talk) 22:02, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes, will need to change the co.uk to com. Main reason for this is if a person is not in the UK, Google will automatically direct them to their countries Google address. Comes in handy when English is not their primary language or the Google link goes to a non-English link.

1. I asked you keep the references in the same style. Your last edit contained two (one with cite template and one without).
2. Today you earlier added refs using the cite template. You added publisher=Oxford University Press, 2004 , p.28, ISBN 0195169417 American Academy of Religion reflection and theory in the study of religion series
   This should be publisher=Oxford University Press |year=2004 |page=28 |isbn=0195169417 I'm not exactly sure what "American Academy of Religion..." is supposed to be. If it is a book that is part of a series, it can be added as |series=American Academy of Religion reflection and theory in the study of religion.

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@Bgwhite: I'm like an ocean-going liner, just take a long time to reach stop, or turn around (since I'm so big, like a whale, but my brain is comparitavely quite small - I suppose, and not predatory enough, like a shark.... and some other things also. Whalestate (talk) 22:08, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

At least I'm not absolutely titanic Whalestate (talk) 22:13, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

@Bgwhite: merry christmas by the way > 22:09, 24 December 2015 (diff | hist) . . (+24)‎ . . N Ocean-going liner ‎ (created by way of Talk with Bgwhite (User)) (current) Whalestate (talk) 22:15, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to you too! I just hope I survive the visits with the in-laws. Bgwhite (talk) 22:29, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

@Bgwhite: my screen is showing a snap screen (with a face) > Tab crashed < when I paste the correct template, which means I won't be able to convert the templates until I figured out if there is a way to avoid this obviously, unless you know a way, though the first conversion to the correct template didn't make a snap screen. Whalestate (talk) 22:37, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm looking through this > https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95669?hl=en&ref_topic=3227046 Whalestate (talk) 22:39, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

When I've seen this, I either had to restart the web browser or turn the wireless back on. On my laptop, the wireless button is above the "3" button. Grrr, I keep doing that all the time. Bgwhite (talk) 22:46, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

K thanks will try as you suggested. In any case I put survival first and didn't get in-laws (went outlaw instead? i don't know), hmm survival ... I suggest before going to bed drink orange juice, chamomile tea and chew some thyme for nerves ? I don't know the in-law experience, but those three things really genuinely calm a person and help sleep (perhaps don't take the orange juice, or try lemon juice with water and sugar instead, the Prince of Wales in reputed to drink this before sleep, and how many parents could refuse or disapprove or be unwelcoming a prince?), and in the morning chew rosemary. If you want my help, which likely you wouldn't have asked me for, or just makes you feel more powerless or less powerless (either I don't know), since someone is offering help at all when people need something other. Whalestate (talk) 22:54, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

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Request reason:

The multiple accounts were an kind of experiment that's all, I'm just innocent of there being any wrong-doing here. I created them in order to tidy my user page also, from all the mess which I'd added to it, to organise. I created the accounts to manage my own user pages and to have privacy to study particular things in order to further contribute, i.e. to learn new things, and the multiple accounts were there so I could keep a record of the things I was learning. I wasn't intending to use them for anything other than editing my user-pages. Multiple accounts aren't themselves forbidden so I was just presuming no harm was done to the encyclopedia, the accounts wouldn't pose a problem. I wanted to experiment and maybe learn something new about web-development so was trying things out that's all. If they are a problem I'll just have to stop using them. No problem. I studied art at university so the whole thing is just a creative exploration for me, I didn't mean any harm to wikipedia genuinely.

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Unfortunately, your account of what happened does not fit what can be seen by anyone who studies your editing history. While some of your accounts edited only in userspace, many of them edited articles, including several accounts editing the same article. I have seen a number of cases where one of your accounts restored editing of other accounts of yours after it had been reverted. That is an excellent example of one of the things which multiple accounts must not do. (I may also say that "tidying up" your user page is a highly dubious description of what your user-space only accounts have done. At best their editing was use of Wikipedia as a web host for playing around, and at worst it was use of Wikipedia to post promotional content.) The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 17:26, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

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Because of the nature of certain elements of the block which I'm unwilling to disclose here I'd like to be provided an email address in order to communicate with an editor on this please, or else I won't be able to explain fully my reasons here. Whalestate (talk) 00:37, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

I just confirmed my email address, so I'm hoping someone might email me, or else I can't find an address to send anything to and will have to go to bed soon in any case, thanks. Whalestate (talk) 01:04, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

• Even assuming that some of what you say is true, it doesn't explain the fact that you and your socks edited the same articles. One notable example is Salah Abdeslam. Three of your socks edited that article, including an account you created that was username-blocked for obvious reasons, Salah Abdeslam (talk · contribs · count) Just the creation of that account and another similar account was disruptive. I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for someone to e-mail you. I certainly won't.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:23, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

The issue on the account was terrorism, and because the affairs related to those edits were of high-emotion I was unable to think of any account name, and unwilling to connect my usual user name to the account I just chose the name of the perpetrator, and also, since unwilling to connect a terrorist with anything in the world other than himself. I was using the other account Antrangelos because of the nature of the edits, and I'm attached to an immigrant-Pakistani muslim community here socially and have been for two years about, so my intuition was for my own safety. If you care to look you would see both Abelhamid Abaaoud (https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Abdelhamid_Abaaoud#Connections_to_other_Islamist_terrorists) and Salah Abdeslam have connections to Birmingham, so my intuition was correct. As for the other accounts directly connected to Whalestate, I was actually experiencing some difficulty in editing as my father just died recently November 24th, so I have some things on my mind and was distracted I admit to make those other accounts. I am genuinely concerned with articles I've created and written / writing and am committed to the encyclopedia, but to be honest I can't really edit so fully as I want due to mitigating circumstances in my personal life, and also managing the stress of being on the very peripheral of terrorism here in Birmingham, and I've just moved home in December, have no heating, cooker, bed. table, so I might just have liked a break from wikipedia and from pressure of feeling obliged to edit, of this the pressure is kind of great. I'd lust like to be able to kearn using internet like I used to prior to editing, without feeling I have to edit wikipedia instead. Whalestate (talk) 01:43, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Really I need some rest and I'd just like to take a break from editing in any case, if the block is revoked I'd just like it to be re-added at my request for a month and it might be reviewed again then so I might get my affairs more in order. I wanted to keep edits of the affairs of terrorism, crime, war and the like seperate from Whalestate where I just am concerned with non-conflictual things and more thoughtful concerns. Thanks. Whalestate (talk) 01:43, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Edits I was making here using multiple accounts were being made to try and secure myself personally at Antrangelos in order I might feel my safety should not be comprimised here in Birmingham, so I was making an effort to hide anything which might connect me to the username by experiments here at Whalestate. You might just consider the damaging effects of terrorism (fear) reached me here considering the killings in Paris, the connection to the city I live in and my father dying, caused me to feel these things more acutely, but feeling connected to terrorism causes a person to behave recklessly perhaps, to ensure one's safety. I took risks within wikipedia to mitigate real world risks, which I don't know about. If you care to look at some sources, the greatest risk is the thing a person knows nothing, or little of, which which makes vigilance and a great degree of caution necessary. My uncle is employed in MI5 (previously GCHQ) here, so I have concerns of internal security of the state within my family (for 19-20 year perhaps) but internal security I think requires a degree of secrecy and confidentiality which one individual is unable to create, and maintain, and policy of wikipedia seemingly won't allow & forbids my efforts, of this the greater good is maybe sacrificed. Whalestate (talk) 01:53, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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