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Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You could also click on the signature button or 
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editHi Viridium. I get it that you are passionate about the Seralini issues, and I can tell that you are starting to get frustrated, but please keep in mind that Wikipedia is not a wild west. Content is not determined by what you want or what I want but by our best efforts to reach consensus, based on policies and guidelines (PAG).
Being an "encyclopedia that anyone can edit" means that over the years, Wikipedia has developed lots of PAG to help provide a "body of law" as it were, that form a foundation for rational discussion. Without that foundation, this place would be a wild west - a truly ugly place. But with the foundation, there are ways to rationally work things out - if, and only if, all the parties involved accept that foundation and work within it. One of the hardest things for inexperienced people, is to understand not only that this foundation exists, but what its letter and spirit is. (I emphasize the spirit, because too often people fall prey to what we call "wikilawyering")
The more I have learned about how things are set up here - not just the letter of PAG and the various drama boards and administrative tools, but their spirit - the more impressed I have become at how beautiful this place can be. It takes time to learn both the spirit and the letter of PAG, and to really get aligned with Wikipedia's mission to crowdsource a reliable, NPOV source of information for the public (as "reliable" and "NPOV" are defined in PAG!). And in discussions over content when opinions differ, I know it is hard not to become frustrated. But please remember to assume good faith and hang in there.
People come edit for many reasons, but one of the main ones is that they are passionate about something. That passion is a double-edged sword. It drives people to contribute which has the potential for productive construction, but it can also lead to tendentious editing, which is really destructive. Advocacy is one of our biggest bedevilments. Anyway, I do hope you slow down and learn. There are lots of people here who are happy to teach, if you open up and listen and ask authentic questions, not rhetorical ones. And I hope we can come to consensus. it will take time and work, but there is no deadline. Jytdog (talk) 22:49, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- Also, I know the article makes you angry, but it would be a good thing if you took some time and read the whole thing, to understand what it actually says, and what the sources that are cited say. You wanted to add information about "rebuttals" to the criticism section, but there is a section for responses already in the article.. Thanks Jytdog (talk) 03:08, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for your kind words. As you've seen, my "passion" about the issue was practical and it culminated with a major update to the outline, in which Séralini's response to "the Séralini affair" started to be featured prominently ("Republication"). The best we can hope for is to present *all* the relevant information in an unbiased fashion, and, at the time of my advocacy, that was not the case. Viridium (talk) 03:23, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
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editIf driveby editors never use the talk pages/never make comments I can tighten down the protection levels of the page (up to and including administrators only). WhisperToMe (talk) 00:59, 27 November 2016 (UTC)