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Names for Berber languages

Wikipedia uses the most common English terms for things. The names that Kwamikagami has used in the various Berber language articles are the most commonly used names for these languages in English. He is following Wikipedia policy in using them. --Taivo (talk) 05:56, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Kwamikagami is not reliable, on english names, for Berber languages.

Actually, he is, that is, his use of the sources is reliable. He is relying on multiple English-language linguistic sources. The question is, "What are the terms that English language sources use for these languages?" The terms that Kwami has used are the most commonly used terms in English. And, actually, I would say that you are not reliable at all when it comes to the English terms for these languages. I have read several works on Berber languages and I have never seen some of the forms you were using. Wikipedia uses the most common English names for things, not things that you have made up and have never been used in English linguistic works. --Taivo (talk) 06:06, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

(Google Web Search) is not a reliable source, for most Wikipedia users rely on, for sources. I recommend users to email Scientific institutes and academies like (e.g. IRCAM Royal institute of the Amazigh culture in Agadir or Rabat, Morocco) for better Sources on Berber Language.(Uchronicle (talk) 06:51, 26 August 2010 (UTC))

I didn't look on Google and didn't say that I did. I looked at the most common linguistic sources in English, including the standard linguistic encyclopedias and classifications as well as grammars, etc. The IRCAM Royal Institute is not a reliable source for most common English usage. They will provide what they wish was the English usage, but they are not the source for most common English usage. --Taivo (talk) 09:25, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

here is, Tachelhit dictionary book (Ra nsawal Tachelhit. by Abdellah El Mountassir, ISBN-13: 978-2911053528 )(Uchronicle (talk) 09:39, 26 August 2010 (UTC))

No, that's not a reference for the name because it is not in English. This is the English Wikipedia and only texts in English can illustrate what something is called in English. --Taivo (talk) 10:31, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

August 2010

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renaming the page back to Tachelhit (Uchronicle (talk) 07:39, 26 August 2010 (UTC))

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I am trying to fix a double redirect of Tachelhit and rename the article Tachelhit Language. (give me a few minutes)(Uchronicle (talk) 07:52, 26 August 2010 (UTC))

ClueBot I need to Request a move from [Shilha Language] to [Tachelhit Language]. (Uchronicle (talk) 07:57, 26 August 2010 (UTC))

WP:NCON, WP:English (Uchronicle (talk) 08:02, 26 August 2010 (UTC))

You have not proven that Shilha is not the most common English usage. You need proof, not just your assertions. --Taivo (talk) 09:26, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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