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You sir, are a fucking idiot. I worked hard on that Holyland page, and didn't copy a single word. So what do you do? Delete it. I'm merely trying to help the industry. We all know wikipedia is the biggest site for information, and with a page like that, the Holyland series could potentially spike in popularity. That was very unreasonable of you to delete it. I hope that somewhere in your pathetic being, you find the decency to put that page back up.

Sincerely,

-Unclestanky

Possible Mistaken Revert

Hi Ging287… The edits were not a mistake or a test. I created Underalls and coloralls and winteralls and Summeralls for Hanes in the 1970's. I just corrected some misinformation and added some unmentioned facts. Why did you remove them without checking? I restored what I had time to restore. Will return in future to add a bit more.MadMadMadwoman (talk) 23:55, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

I apologize for the seemingly mistaken revert. However, while one part of your edit seemed to be constructive, one part was not. http://i.imgur.com/AkoQGBt.png <- Articles are meant to be encyclopedic, and not treated like a forum space in that regard. I'm sorry in the regard that I did not elaborate more on that on your talk page.Ging287 (talk) 00:17, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello Ging, can you please pint point the related advertising content the been used in ITG America page ... waiting your feedback .. thanks

Cape Verde

Hi, about my edit to the Calheta, Cape Verde article: all of the text I removed was added by the now banned User:Pumpie, see this old version. This user was banned because what he/she wrote was completely unreliable. If you read the text, you can see how bad it is. I'm trying to clean up the mess he/she left, replacing his/her text by referenced information, for instance census data. Markussep ^Talk 16:31, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Indeed, the user was banned. However, the reason you're stating is completely false. You don't get banned on Wikipedia for merely contributing. See here: http://i.imgur.com/MYuk4I6.png and http://i.imgur.com/fzah6qh.png . Seeing that, I see your point. But low quality content doesn't get you banned in that regard. Ging287 (talk) 16:37, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Pumpie was banned mainly for continuously making the same serious errors in his/her edits, and responding completely unsatisfactory on remarks and questions. I tried to get some answers from him about how he knew that for instance olives and tomatoes were grown and how mabny schools there were in certain Greek villages, but he never revealed his sources. Since it's hard to verify his statements, and they're most likely wrong, I chose to remove them. If you're interested, you can take a look at this arbitration case. Markussep ^Talk 16:45, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Alright. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I won't revert your edits again. No hard feelings or hidden qualms. Ging287 (talk) 16:48, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

OK. Markussep ^Talk 16:52, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

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you don't understand external links

Don't erase any links to an official website for something. And the external links section goes beneath the reference section on all Wikipedia articles. I undid what you did at Attack on Titan, since people who read the article will benefit from knowing the official website for English speaking people to watch the anime mentioned in the article, as well as where to find the official website to the film mentioned in the article, etc. At John Muir Way you erased a link to the official website of that park, as well as links to government websites showing information about it. Don't do that. Dream Focus 22:23, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Please see WP:ELNO. Also, the Attack on Titan links may count as a copyright violation. Ging287 (talk) 22:33, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Actually, those don't count as copyright violations because they are official websites. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:11, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Please see both of these talk pages. If there is no response, I will assume it as assent and remove the links. WP:BURDEN is also applicable. Ging287 (talk) 00:22, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

ANN links on Wikipedia articles on anime are perfectly acceptable and in fact are pretty much required.

As for ELNO#12, 1. ANN is not a wiki, and 2. From the page itself: Open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors (emphasis added). ANN's encyclopedia, while not a reliable source, is accepted as an external link because it is given high regard in the anime industry, and because it has a large number of users. As for the other links, there's also this at the very top of the section: A link to an official page of the article's subject [should be included]. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:50, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Cease talking to me via my talk page. Go here if you wish to discuss Attack on Titan's external links. Ging287 (talk) 01:02, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for the help. Really appreciated. I hope ya will help me again. HulkRider (talk) 04:12, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

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Clinton Foundation

Hi, you removed an edit I made on the clinton foundation page... the edit I made was taking out a 500+ line Apple Service Agreement that was for some reason in the middle of the Clinton Foundation page... Pretty sure my edit was legit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.243.100 (talk) 01:39, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Apologies. I must've overlooked it. Ging287 (talk) 01:46, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Pleco Software

Hi. I am wondering why you've nominated Pleco Software for speedy deletion. It has all the reliable references. Technocrunchy (talk) 12:11, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Hanover Town Library

It's listed on the National Register of Historic Places, which is stated in the stub. This has repeatedly been deemed sufficient to confer notability on such buildings. Magic♪piano 13:31, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Notability is not inherited. WP:INHERITORG. It needs to stand up on its own in terms of WP:RS, not ride on another article's back. Ging287 (talk) 13:33, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm not claim it's inheriting notability. The claim is that listings on the NR are notable because of their listing (and because the listing process requires documentation using RS). Please review the history of attempts to delete NR-listed properties; I don't think I've ever seen one succeed. Magic♪piano 13:38, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Nonetheless, when I nominated it for deletion, I saw it in my own POV that it was not notable enough for an encylopedia. The relevant caveat for speedy deletion means that it must not be contested by the page author, but by anybody else is fair game. I’m sure you’ve already omitted the deletion tag, right? You're right. I cede to your point. Deletion tag removed. Apologies Ging287 (talk) 13:44, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

"Omitted the deletion tag" - what the heck does that mean? Magic♪piano 13:50, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

It's another word for 'remove'. Ging287 (talk) 13:51, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Then your dictionary is different than mine, which doesn't have that definition in it. Thank you for removing the CSD. Magic♪piano 13:56, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Eden Valley Museum

Hi, I understand why you listed Eden Valley Museum for deletion before. I have since added the changes that I was working on at the time. I hope you'll agree that the further information I have inserted qualifies the entry to stay. I had prematurely published the page before it was done. The significance of the museum is really in the building as an excellent example of Kentish vernacular architecture as well the importance of tanning and cricket ball making to the Valley area. Best wishes! Alexpaton (talk) 15:06, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, thanks for your feedback on the First National Bank of Layton page. I'll research the topic further to try and prove its worth. Thanks again! Talmagelarry (talk) 21:33, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

I understand that John Alfred Hipple profile is incomplete, I am french and I hope that you will complete the biography. I have on academia started to edit https://www.academia.edu/6483539/John_A._Hipple_1911-1985_technology_as_knowledge Please accept my thanks, sincerely Pierre-François Puech H.D.R. pfpuech@yahoo.fr — Preceding unsigned comment added by PUECH P.-F. (talk • contribs) 16:01, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Teddybear3/Thompson v Foy

I userfied the article instead of deleting it. Bearian (talk) 16:28, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

A. Jayashankar

I hate to bother you again, but this alleges some notability; therefore I put it in the 7-day proposed deletion list. Bearian (talk) 17:13, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Gibraltar women's football championship

It's a mess, but may be notable. Can you please take this to WP:AfD instead, for a discussion? Bearian (talk) 16:51, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Consider my proposed deletion null. I concede it. Was a mistaken tag. Sorry. Ging287 (talk) 17:44, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Data-in-Transit]]

Does not appear to be a company, and is therefore not deletable under WP:CSD A7. Only the categories of articles specified at WP:CSD can be used for A7; this is not one of them. What it does seem to be is an incomplete article--it may, of course, turn out to be a company, but that's not clear at the moment. A7 also does not apply to products, or places, or buildings.

I also remind you that G11 only applies to articles that are actual advertising or promotion, not merely listing the products of a company or giving other factual material. Anf all places and buildings on the National Registry are considered notable here.

Speedy deletion is only for things that no reasonable person would think belongs in an encyclopedia-- for uncontestable deletions, and even so, only according to the specified reasons, which are interpreted narrowly. It is very important not to discourage newcomers with deleting articles that have any potential, or that are incomplete. Looking at this pager and your contributions, I and other administrators think you've been making a number of mistakes, e en though most of your tagging is valid.

Please carefully re-read WP:Deletion Policy and WP:CSD before tagging further articles. when in doubt, use PROD. DGG ( talk ) 17:30, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

I'll carefully re-read the relevant deletion policies and will probably stay away from the new articles feed for a few days. I apologize for any inconvenience/confusion/whatever I may have caused. Once again, sorry. Only trying to help. Ging287 (talk) 17:40, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

you have been helpful; most of your nomination have been OK, but it takes a while to learn all the possibilities. The best way to learn is at WP:AFD-- first watch some discussions for a while, then comment on the more obvious ones, and move on to more difficult problems as you get confidence. DGG ( talk ) 17:55, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Maurice Verheul composer

Hi Ging,

It takes some time to find out how to reply.

Why is my "starting to be an article" removed. Maurice Verheul is a composer of more than 700 works and supported by great pianist ( Geoffrey Madge and Micheal Haberman, Dona Amato etc) and a lot of other performers. Why can't I write about this composer I see a lot of other composers on wiki which are never played and have nothing more to say than than a forgotten name in time.

Please let me know what are the rules

Rvanbergen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rvanbergen (talk • contribs) 20:21, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

It was speedily deleted for A7 of the speedy deletion criteria, which states that, An article about a real person, individual animal(s), organization, web content or organized event that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant, with the exception of educational institutions. So all in all, it was not considered notable by Wikipedia's notability standards. What I would recommend you do is that you use your Sandbox (at the top) or your user page to build your article to the very best of your ability. Then you can do either one of two things, I'm biased towards the second though. 1. Recreate it. Which leads to a possibility of it being speedily deleted once again. or 2. Send it to articles for creation. They will tell you whether it has achieved notability, and give you tips to help improve it. I'm biased towards this option because rather than getting speedily deleted once more and all of the problems unaddressed, you can get immediate feedback from volunteer editors rather than a link to a deletion criteria. If it passes articles for recreation and is recreated, I'd say you have a minimal chance of getting it speedily deleted again for any obvious problems. Ging287 (talk) 20:28, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

RE: Pavan G Shet

Hello Ging287. The page was automatically marked as "Patrolled" by the tool Twinkle (which I was using to tag the page for speedy deletion). Generally, when tagging a page for deletion (or adding any sort of tag, for that matter), the page should be marked as patrolled - that means someone has looked at the page and has either approved it for the encyclopedia, or has tagged it for any issues it has. This is useful for new pages patrollers, so they don't need to look at a page that has already been tagged for speedy deletion. K6ka (talk | contribs) 02:19, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

I think maybe there was an edit conflict. Whereas I selected 'unreviewed' when in reality, if I would've refreshed the page, there would've been a speedy deletion tag. I was looking at it and I just couldn't make a decision myself, but it was already 'reviewed' by someone, and I really think that it would've been beneficial for it to have another editor look at it. Nonetheless, I'm sorry and I'll be sure to take more caution on that in the future. Ging287 (talk) 10:30, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Aswathi Thirunal Gowri Lakshmi Bayi

HI Ging287. I have provided the reference. AS far as notability is concerned, she is a notable writer. I have like scores of online articles or news items to prove it. As soon as i created that page, i got your message. Now you can check it out.--India142 13:34, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

They do no good if they aren't mentioned. I could have tons of articles and reliable sources to prove that Wikipedia was created in 1950, but without people knowing those links, they can't be evaluated or even tested, and the page/section about it would be removed. It was not intended to be a personal attack, just trying to give you constructive criticism on what needs to be added/omitted. Thanks. Ging287 (talk) 13:41, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi, i didn't considered it as personal attack. What i meant was, i have added the reference and if you are still having any doubts regarding the notability of the author, i will provide you with more links. Anyway, thank you for your feed back.--India142 14:33, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

It's not me you have to please, it's the general notability guideline. If there isn't sufficient sources and a lack of inherent notability, then it may be nominated for deletion. Ging287 (talk) 14:34, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Also, you don't need to manually put the date and time and etc. Just put 4 ~'s and it will automatically place it. Ging287 (talk) 14:36, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

User's sandbox

Hello. I think you may have missed a detail. User:Varo DerBedrosian/sandbox (which is already in use) is a user's sandbox; but Varo DerBedrosian/sandbox isn't. —Largo Plazo (talk)

Ah. They were extremely similar. Sorry for the revert. Just saw 'sandbox' and 'test page' nomination and removed the tag. I won't omit it again. Thanks for taking the time to explain. ^^ Ging287 (talk) 16:58, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

No problem. I get caught by that sometimes. In this case, I did try to move the article to his space, but wasn't able to because he'd already created the real sandbox. —Largo Plazo (talk) 17:00, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Might want to make a note of that on the talk page of the article, just in case the reviewing admin doesn't see the small detail, either. Ging287 (talk) 17:01, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Good idea, done. —Largo Plazo (talk) 17:13, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Jpowell3404

don't delete it please it's usefull.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpowell3404 (talk • contribs) 19:56, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Heading

hello ..... clearly im working on my page but thank you for the "deletion" and your concerns — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julianadancecristina (talk • contribs) 21:20, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Ging287, Cyclops Street Artist is my first article and I am finding the whole lay out of Wikipedia, the language and the rules slightly Alien. I am disappointed that the article has been deleted because i'll have to start again! He is worthy of note, I'm just needing some time to put it together. I could do with some help. Thanks Telepathicworks (talk) 19:12, 2 April 2014 (UTC) telepathic worksTelepathicworks (talk) 19:12, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Nephi, son of Nephi the Disciple

Hi Ging287,

You've listed Nephi, son of Nephi the Disciple as a duplicate page to be deleted. However, your link was broken, and didn't list what article you thought it was a duplicate of. As far as I am aware, there is no duplicate page, but if there is one, I'd love to know! Please clarify. Thank you!

--Clair de Balloon (talk) 03:28, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I see now that you subsequently both fixed the link and took the tag down. Unless you have any questions about either Nephi, I believe it's all resolved. Thanks!

--Clair de Balloon (talk) 03:41, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Thank you:) Wallnut tree (talk) 08:08, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Goodnight, Sunrise additional citation

Hi Ging 287(talk)

I've added additional citations/external references to the recent Goodnight, Sunrise submission. Hopefully the additional radio charting, featured articles, and MTV artist page will help provide wiki a satisfactory confirmation of notoriety.

Thanks for all you do! Cheers- Praymondjohn (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:17, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Recent Post about BoneLands

Hey Ging287,

I am fairly new here so I just wanted to talk with you and get some insight about what went wrong with my game. I found a well established list of multiplayer browser games here on wikipedia located here: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/List_of_multiplayer_browser_games

I added my game to the list early today and it was removed. I really baffled because as I am familiar with the other games on the list and they are all just games. I am not sure why mine can't be there since it is 100% accurate to that page list. I would appreciate any feedback on that.

Then, after had added my game to that list, I noticed they all link back to their article on wikipedia as well. So I copied the template from one of these games 100% and created an article for BoneLands and switched the info out with accurate info with my game. I have all the same things including references to indie publishers who have written articles on my game a non biased description about the game. I received a message from you saying mine was deleted because it is a browser game without any notable information why it is there. However, when I look at the others on that list I do not see anything more notable about their games. They are all just games which our 100% browser based meaning programming in pure website programming requiring no plugins and downloads. I would really love to know why my game cannot be listed or if it can please advice me to what I need to do or what the actual difference is between mine and theirs. I am legitimately just trying to do what all of those games have done. Please help. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clarencecowan (talk • contribs) 01:07, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

@Clarencecowan:,In order to answer your question, it is first necessary in order to understand what criteria the content was speedily deleted under. Which was A7 of the speedy criteria list.. So what does that state? Let's see. An article about a real person, individual animal(s), organization, web content or organized event that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant, with the exception of educational institutions I tagged it, yes. I tagged it because it didn't make any claim of its significance. Since this is a speedy deletion criteria, it is customary to follow it as if you don't...well...you know what will happen. What is a claim of significance? Exactly what it sounds. "It is known for X." or "It is known for Y." or something along those lines. However, it must be noted that on the same page, this also applies; The criterion does apply if the claim of significance or importance given is not credible So if you were to say, "This isn't well known, but it could be!" then that would be an uncredible display of significance.

What I recommend you do is one of two things; 1. Recreate the article from its current form. I don't recommend this as it's possible that will get tagged with the same criteria as before and get speedily deleted before. Or 2. (Which I recommend.) is send and build the draft to articles for creation. The draft will be assessed by numerous editors and they will give honest feedback, criticism and even praise and approval. Why I recommend this is because rather than just a link to a policy, you can get actual feedback on why the article was not notable enough, or something along those lines. Per your argument, I invite you to read WP:V as well as WP:NOTABILITY and WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. As well as conflict of interest guidelines. It is generally not acceptable for you to be creating an article of something you created, as you would be biased towards putting favorable information towards it. If you need more information/need something else explained please contact me. Ging287 (talk) 01:37, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your fast response! I will use the suggestion you recommended. However, I have one last question which is actually my first question for the original post. Why was my game title removed from the list on this wikipedia article: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/List_of_multiplayer_browser_games ? I was getting nice traffic to my site from happy people about finding my game on this reference site but it appears my game has been stripped form wikipedia. That is simply a list of games exactly like mine. Can it not be there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clarencecowan (talk • contribs) 01:47, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

@Clarencecowan:, Once again, I hate to refer you to a policy guideline, but I see it as necessary. WP:SPAM and WP:PROMOTION. Wikipedia is not the site for an advertisement, advocacy, or anything of the sort. Once the game has achieved sufficient coverage under the general notability guideline, then it may be recreated and possibly added to the list. Ging287 (talk) 13:34, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Reverted my COI

Would you mind to explain me why you reverted my COI request.Rukn950 14:20, 4 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rukn950 (talk • contribs)

I'm thinking it may have been an edit conflict. Seeing as I recently posted one about Bonelands. Could you link me to the diffs? I didn't mean to, in any case. Ging287 (talk) 14:23, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry I had deleted last para as it was not edit conflict. but advice of good faith editor.I had by mistake inserted it.

1. REDIRECT Mufaddal Saifuddin: Revision history
2. REDIRECT Talk:Dawoodi Bohra

These two article has seen surg of editwar due to succession controvery. My request that since Mufaddal Saifuddin is Biography article and not succession controversy ground has been repeatedly ignored.Rukn950 14:34, 4 April 2014 (UTC) user:Ruqn950 Talk

Uh, the revert was intentional. I thought that you just intentionally omitted the user's edit for no reason. Any reason you did such? It seemed like pretty good advice imho. Ging287 (talk) 14:36, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Of-course it is good advice and as per the users advice I have cited COI. but I had thought that the para was not necessary in the COI talk page, but if you feel otherwise I dont mind.<font style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"><span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;color:blue"><big>[[User:Ruqn950 &#124;Ruqn950]] (talk) 16:44, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Reverted my COI

Would you mind to explain me why you reverted my COI request.Rukn950 14:20, 4 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rukn950 (talk • contribs)

I'm thinking it may have been an edit conflict. Seeing as I recently posted one about Bonelands. Could you link me to the diffs? I didn't mean to, in any case. Ging287 (talk) 14:23, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry I had deleted last para as it was not edit conflict. but advice of good faith editor.I had by mistake inserted it.

1. REDIRECT Mufaddal Saifuddin: Revision history
2. REDIRECT Talk:Dawoodi Bohra

These two article has seen surg of editwar due to succession controvery. My request that since Mufaddal Saifuddin is Biography article and not succession controversy ground has been repeatedly ignored.Rukn950 14:34, 4 April 2014 (UTC) user:Ruqn950 Talk

Uh, the revert was intentional. I thought that you just intentionally omitted the user's edit for no reason. Any reason you did such? It seemed like pretty good advice imho. Ging287 (talk) 14:36, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Of-course it is good advice and as per the users advice I have cited COI. but I had thought that the para was not necessary in the COI talk page, but if you feel otherwise I dont mind.Rukn950 (talk) 16:47, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you Ging287 for your help with the TINO page. I will try to keep improving it. Best wishes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayajil (talk • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick response. This page is not unambiguously promotional, because I was only writing a review about the software Pinnacle Game Profiler and the developer. My intentions are not for promotional purposes. The purpose of this write up is for how long it's been available and how your PC gaming can be made easier for gaming devices. Just like you already have another competitive software on your website as a non promotional product https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Xpadder--Errolmohammed (talk) 12:57, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Proposed Sergei Verenkin deletion

Hello, and thanks for notifying me about the proposed deletion of the Sergei Verenkin page. I would like to point out that it does have a reference: http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=49104. That reference is included under the external links section, and that one reference is why I added a

tag to the page. Thanks! NHCLS (talk) 18:41, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Removed. Ging287 (talk) 18:43, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Your speedy deletion nomination on Esviet

CSD criteria G1 does not cover non-english content. Please use Template:Not English for this. Vieque (talk • ctb) 02:56, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

'racial fetishism' page

hi Ging! I am very aware there are two pages.. I got a little confused while posting. I posted the one you are going to delete first, then realized it didn't come up in search, so I had to edit the redirect page, I think? Regardless, I figured someone would find that right away I just wasn't sure how to do it! There should just be one, of course! Thanks! Melaniethibodeau (talk) 19:15, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

I really shouldn't have tagged it as a speedy deletion. I've removed the tag. Afd due to WP:CONTENTFORK, though. Ging287 (talk) 19:22, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Your request for Nightwalkin' speedy deletion.

(Sorry if I'm sending this to you twice, again I'm newer to creating articles and posting here.)

Even thought Alisha (singer) didn't have a very long career in music, she does have somewhat of a "cult" following that has a lot of her fans curious about her projects. Very few places online give any real information about her albums, and even though Nightwalkin' wasn't a successful album, it still had songs that made minor impact on the charts and was released on a major label. I am newer to adding and editing Wiki pages, but if there is any recommendations of what I can do to keep the page intact, please let me know. I worked with what articles and Billboard chart statistics I could to construct a good description of the record, and tried to explain the history on the record to the best I could with the information that is available to cite. Thank you for your time! Popxguy (talk) 23:48, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Please add reliable sources and a credible claim of significance and I'd be forced to remove the tag. It would then have to go to articles for deletion, and it would be forced to through the entire process, and requires a higher burden for deletion. Ging287 (talk) 23:51, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

I've already removed the tag because it was clearly incorrect, and I seriously doubt it would be deleted at AfD either. The article looks fine to me, especially considering it's only a few hours old. --Bongwarrior (talk) 00:02, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry. I'll re-read the criteria for speedy deletion section and remind myself that if I'm not sure, just don't tag it. I'll make sure it won't happen again. Sorry, again. ^^ Ging287 (talk) 00:05, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Hey, Would really appreciate some help with my article about the Eurofalsh. it is of great significance, and is worthy of its own wikipedia page. we have been preforming since 2000, in several different events and stages, and have more than a few fans all around Europe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drori.mor (talk • contribs) 00:11, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Movement Reseach

whoops, sorry about the E/C. Don't worry, not restoring the ELs. Slowly converting to refs. Will remove them as I add (within next half hour) StarM 01:39, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. ^^ Ging287 (talk) 01:40, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Dear Ging287.

You sir, are a fucking idiot. I worked hard on that Holyland page, and didn't copy a single word. So what do you do? Delete it. I'm merely trying to help the industry. We all know wikipedia is the biggest site for information, and with a page like that, the Holyland series could potentially spike in popularity. That was very unreasonable of you to delete it. I hope that somewhere in your pathetic being, you find the decency to put that page back up.

Sincerely,

-Unclestanky

Relevant policies: Assume good faith. No personal attacks. So, the problem is that your page got deleted? It was copyright infringement. I googled an excerpt of the text and I found numerous other sites with that exact same text. Due to legal issues, it is a speedy deletion criteria. I, myself, am not an administrator and cannot delete pages. Also read WP:PROMOTION. Wikipedia is not a promotion page for your products. Also give the conflict of interest guidelines a read. Ging287 (talk) 16:23, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of TINO Methodology for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article TINO Methodology is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TINO Methodology until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 17:32, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

April 2014

Your recent editing history at Matt Haag shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. TheMesquito (talk) 22:06, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

@TheMesquito:, do you consider restoring blanked sections and removing poorly sourced assertions are an edit war? Ging287 (talk) 22:07, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

I understand that, but you don't need to keep reverting as the IP user and the other user will just keep restoring it, report to the Admins and wait for a resolution of it, i have already requested page protection, and warned all users involved. When it is resolved then you can make proper edits to the article. TheMesquito (talk) 22:14, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Qadirhosseini1360 (Brian alspach)

Hi, Ging287 I am taking graph theory class and part of the requirements for my class is to create a wiki page for a graph theorist. I am just trying to contribute to this graph theorist’s wiki page. Please tell me why my page was deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qadir Hosseini1360 (talk • contribs) 01:34, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Can you give me the name of this graph theorist? Also, I am just a regular user, I do not have the authority to delete pages. Only administrators do. However, if you have the page link, it will display a log of why the page is deleted. Could you also inform your teacher of the speedy deletion criteria policy? Perhaps instead of using Wikipedia, you could use another resource intended for teacher/student discussion and learning. It is for encyclopedic entries, not for students' assignments. Ging287 (talk) 01:37, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

The graph theorist's anme is Brian Alspach. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qadir Hosseini1360 (talk • contribs) 13:25, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

This is the assignment that has to be done. I did my research and all aspects of the page have been referenced according to WiKi regulations. What I dont understand is why you are tagging my page for deletion if you are not authorized to delete any page??????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qadir Hosseini1360 (talk • contribs) 01:39, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

What I would recommend you do, is that if this must be done on Wikipedia. (And cannot be done any other way via another school/instructor/thing) is to instead put it in your sandbox, and link that instead of the article at hand. Also, if you need the most recent draft, you can request it at WP:REFUND. Per your question, I am not an administrator. However, anybody can tag any article under speedy deletion criteria and should the reviewing admin see appropriate, remove it. Ging287 (talk) 01:45, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

G.U.Y.

I want you to please stop edit warring like this. WP:LEAD sections do not require citations unless direct quotes are used and material will only be challengable if it is not sourced in the article body. Your understanding of the MOS is completely wrong and I suggest you grasp the concept of LEDE section better. —Indian:BIO · ^{[ ChitChat ]} 05:44, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

@IndianBio:, Straight from Wikipedia policy; The lead must conform to verifiability and other policies. The verifiability policy advises that material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, and quotations, should be supported by an inline citation.

and Leads are usually written at a greater level of generality than the body, and information in the lead section of non-controversial subjects is less likely to be challenged and less likely to require a source; there is not, however, an exception to citation requirements specific to leads.

Straight from Wikipedia policy, they are not exempt from the need for citations. I challenged it, therefore WP:BURDEN comes into play, and it got a citation. Ging287 (talk) 14:58, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Ginger: "FP&A" is a hot topic in finance and accounting and should not be deleted. There are numerous certifications in FP&A now and as I continue more research I intend to indlue them. Despite the strong need for FP&A professionals at the moment there is still confusion as to what FP&A does. I intend for the Wikipedia page to assist with this. Also, please note the numerous FP&A organizations out there. They will be inclulded as well. With time as I continue to reasearch and write. - Thanks Rob — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rtrippe (talk • contribs) 17:44, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Men's rights movement probation notice

Thank you for your contributions to the encyclopedia! In case you are not already aware, an article to which you have recently contributed, Men's rights movement, is on article probation. A detailed description of the terms of article probation may be found at Talk:Men's rights movement/Article probation. Also note that the terms of some article probations extend to related articles and their associated talk pages.

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@Bbb23: (Sorry for the ping) but I contributed to this article a total of three times over my Wikipedia career, and only this time I've gotten this notice? Why? Ging287 (talk) 21:26, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

I watch the MRM page, and when I see reverts, I take a closer look. Your last two edits have been reverted. As the template says, that doesn't mean you've done anything wrong, certainly nothing to justify sanctions, but although not required, I prefer a formal notice in case there's an issue in the future.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:30, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

So because my other edits weren't reverted, I wasn't noticed? Ging287 (talk) 21:34, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Based on what you said (I haven't verified it), you had only one other edit. I might have looked at it at the time, even if it wasn't reverted. Frankly, I don't remember. Although it's on my watchlist, so are over 4,000 other pages, so I can also miss things.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:37, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

I understand, then. ^^ Ging287 (talk) 21:41, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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	Giving this for two reasons: Firstly as a thank you for the guidance and good faith given to me as a new editor, and secondly as acknowledgement of good edits that I've seen from you on other pages. Drowninginlimbo (talk) 03:53, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Thank you for defending me against the accusation of sockputting when I was unable to do so myself. I hope this qualifies as thanks Drowninginlimbo (talk) 12:25, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of 100 Computing Lessons

Thanks for your message about the page '100 Computing Lessons'. This page should not be speedily deleted because the article relates to a new series of books which are very relevant to teachers in the UK. It is not there for advertising or self-promotion, purely so that teachers can find out more information about this well-known (in the UK) series of books. There are 100 lessons for all subjects in the new National Curriculum, which is being introduced in September 2014.

Looking at the guidelines, I have tried to improve the page, though this is my first page and therefore, I'm not sure specifically what else to do. Please could you recommend improvements? Thanks for your help.

Right now, it's not even up for a speedy deletion. It was declined for a speedy deletion. What it's up for now is a Proposed deletion. Do you contest that, as well? Ging287 (talk) 21:06, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Yes, please may we not delete the 100 Computing Lessons article now. I will continue to improve it, to make it more notable.

Thank you again. Sjbu — Preceding undated comment added 21:19, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Allyou.net article

Hello Tutelary,

I'm a bit surprised that the article I created yesterday has been deleted so fast without giving me the chance to reply first. I have put a lot of effort in this article and tried my very best to comply with Wikipedia standards. I've used other existing sites as references and can't really see why they are supposed to be more relevant than the one I've created: - https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Tictail - https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wix.com and other articles from the list of website builders: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Website_builder I have added the service to the list of website builders and now the link doesn't go anywhere because you've deleted the article.

For this reason I will reactivate the article - at least until we've come to an agreement. I would rather like to ask you to give me feedback on how I could improve the article so it will be as relevant to you as these other articles about website builders instead of you deleting it right away. Thanks.

- I will also put this on the Talk section of the article, so we can have this discussion there. Plasmadesign (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 08:29, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Winx Club

Are you an admin? I need help because someone has been constantly removing important information from the Winx Club page and, no matter how much I tried to discuss with them, they keep on removing the information and seem to be impervious to all argument and counterargument and even caused an edit war. They also tend to threaten editors who don't agree with them with police, which is against the rules. I suspect that this person, who usually edits anonymously, or through the accounts of User:HoseofLove and User:KendallandLogan, is actually the same as the user User:LoganHermann123 who was blocked for threatening other editors. DragonFire900 (talk) 15:23, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

@DragonFire900:, I'll make up a Sockpuppet investigation when I have the time. I do suspect that they are related. Tutelary (talk) 15:25, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I am only trying to help improve the page and to make it informative, which is what an encyclopedia should do. However these non-constructive and unproductive edits and edits wars are preventing me and many users from doing so. DragonFire900 (talk) 15:34, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Are you kidding me? Im for the first time on wikipedia.. HoseofLove (talk) 15:24, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

You will have to show the evidence to the sockpuppet investigation to prove it. DragonFire900 (talk) 15:34, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

This user is now repeatedly concealing the information from the page, despite my explaining to them that all ongoing franchise has information about the franchise's future. Can something be done about that? DragonFire900 (talk) 18:04, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit war on Winx Club page

I am sorry for the edit war. I am only trying to make the page informative but the other user, and what appears to be their sockpuppets, are constantly removing or concealing the information because "not everyone wants to see future information", "not all pages have future information" and "newspaper isn't an official source" despite your explanation on the talk page. I told them many times that according to WP:IRS and WP:CS the information should be there for everyone to see provided it has a source, which it has, but they appear to be stubborn and impervious to any counterargument. Now I understand how all other contributors have been bullied into stopping their contributions to the page. DragonFire900 (talk) 18:30, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

I'll put in the request for a Sockpuppet investigation when I get home. 30-45 mins. You are a new user, you probably didn't know. That's fine, but you know now. So even though he's wrong, stop reverting else you might get blocked along with him. Tutelary (talk) 18:34, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I will stop but it is really irritating because the other person is behaving like, if I may use the term, some stubborn kid who wants the page to be how they want it to be, irrespective of how it should really be and regardless of what the rules say. I've never had to deal with someone like that before, even in real life. DragonFire900 (talk) 18:42, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Since the Winx Club page has been protected, which means that I can no longer edit it, could you please add information from my last edit to it? It's about the show's future and it contains information about future seasons and a future movie from the franchise. DragonFire900 (talk) 19:55, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

And could the protection to the Winx Club page be extended indefinitely? Judging from how the other user says that they have been editing on this page since 2011 and from how they created multiple sockpuppet accounts after User:LoganHermann123, who I suspect to be their original account, was blocked indefinitely, I am sure that they will be back to remove the information again.

I also suspect the multiple IP addresses starting with 87 that appear in the revision history] of the page to be this same person since they repeatedly made the same type of edits and often threatened other editors with police if the other editors disagreed with them. Could something be done to block this IP address as well? I hope I am not asking too much as a new editor. DragonFire900 (talk) 20:14, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your comment at WP:AN/I. It's hard for an IP to be taken seriously. I could have been more productive today had I not had to spend so much time reverting nonsense. 71.139.142.249 (talk) 21:02, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

You know, 71, it was your own choice to waste your own time, not mine. Epicgenius (talk) 22:42, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Radical Feminism talk page edit

Hi there! Just curious about this edit: where's Radical feminism listed as part of the Men's Right Movement article probation? I'm not seeing the connection here. Cheers! 02:44, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Talk to Bbb23 (I didn't mean to ping. Don't know why I typed it out.) for why. He's the admin who claimed it to be, and threatened to use it to temporarily ban me from the topic of said articles. Tutelary (talk) 10:18, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks EvergreenFir (talk) 00:21, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

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Page patrols

I just declined your A11 speedy nomination at Organizational change fatigue, as the article clearly does not meet the strict limitations of this criterion for speedy deletion. Please keep in mind that the criteria for speedy deletion are intentionally very narrow; if an article is borderline, please use AfD or Prod instead of a speedy deletion nomination. Looking over your contributions, I see quite a lot of ill-considered speedy nominations. Please slow down and be nice, and be aware that patrollers that are not able to follow these requirements will eventually be banned from patrolling at all. Thanks! VQuakr (talk) 17:03, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

@VQuakr:, the first one I was not aware of films not being considered 'web content'. I assumed that with all the streaming services, they would be. I will make a note of that and not make that same mistake. International_business_project was not an ill judged attempt. You can view the article for yourself, and tell me you wouldn't tag that. 100_Computing_Lessons was when I was more of a newbie to page patrolling, and again, will not happen again. Also, please link me to the policy where I could be temporarily blocked due to my good faith actions. You also seem to completely neglect all of the appropriately tagged articles which have met the standards and have been deleted under a deletion criteria. 1-3 mistakes when I was a noob (and one now) would not automatically disqualify me. Nonetheless, I will carefully reconsider, as always, the articles I tag. Tutelary (talk) 17:13, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

International business project was tagged for A1 shortly after its creation, in violation of WP:NPPNICE and WP:A1. 100 computing lessons was two weeks ago -- I have been doing this 6 1/2 years and still make mistakes. WP:BLOCK is the relevant policy describing blocking, which would be put into effect if you kept patrolling articles in violation of a topic ban. I agree with you that you are not close to a community ban at this time; what we want is for you to accept the feedback and improve the accuracy of your CSD nominations (and other NPP activity). Yes, because deletion is so bitey, there is an expectation that those nominations will be executed with near perfection - shoot for better than 95%. This means that just a few ill-considered nominations will overshadow a larger number of correct ones. Please allow me to close by thanking you for your work, and acknowledging that you are operating in good faith. Thanks for your consideration! VQuakr (talk) 00:17, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Ok, this is another example of a completely inappropriate CSD nomination. Albums are not candidates for CSD A7, and G5 is for banned users - not someone who was temporarily blocked after they created the page. Please take this as a warning - continuing this behavior will result in my pursuing a topic ban to prevent further damage to the encyclopedia. VQuakr (talk) 01:30, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Bleh

You created the page at some point in the past 30 days. Therefore it appeared in the constantly-updated list of thousands and thousands of pages created within the past 30 days. I clicked on the 'mark as patrolled' link to mark it as patrolled and get it out of my way so I could focus on finding the pages that need to be removed. That's it. DS (talk) 15:49, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry. It was a more simple answer than I thought, sorry for wasting your time. Tutelary (talk) 15:56, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Talk:International_Journal_of_Engineering_Development_and_Research

we have already talked for the same page. THis page includes academic information and hence you yourself removed deletion tag from the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarthakpatel.in (talk • contribs) 03:28, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Ave!Comics Speedy Deletion

Hello,

I fixed my article about Ave!Comics. Is it alright now ?

Sincerely — Preceding unsigned comment added by CandiceM (talk • contribs) 15:54, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello,

After having fixed my article, you tagged it again, this time "because of a variety of reasons". Would you give me a real reason please, along with an example of what is wrong. I feel the article is now appropriate, so why the tag ?

Thank you CandiceM (talk) 11:44, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

CSD#A7 and WP:CSD#G11, respectfully. Tutelary (talk) 12:48, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

I still don't understand. This page isn't promotional at all. It only explains what Ave Comics does, and what are their products. Would you explain me in deeper details please ? Why do YOU think it's promotional and shouldn't be on Wikipedia ? Your opinion would help me so much. SincerelyCandiceM (talk) 11:42, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Get rid of the promotional language and the 'products' section. Then I don't think it would be unambigous advertising. Tutelary (talk) 12:30, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for the welcome, and for the cookies. :) I also do hope that I will enjoy editing here. :) DragonFire900 (talk) 10:40, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Help

I am using this template because I am attempting to redirect a page to the appropriate page (one that doesn't hold very much notability) into another page.

The specific page is Park_the_bus_(football_term). I am attempting to redirect this page to this page only to receive an error that looks like this. http://i.imgur.com/w1PXCKV.png | Therefore, I'm requesting an administrator to do this edit for me as I am not an administrator.

Thank you. Tutelary (talk) 17:17, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Gendered language

I saw you reverted my edit on Extortion replacing a handful of instances of unnecessarily gendered language with ungendered equivalents, citing that there's no wikipedia policy against gendered language as the reason for reverting.

I'm confused that this is a valid reason to revert, since it seems to be a small, harmless tweak designed to slightly improve the article - not unlike other small grammatical or stylistic tweaks that I presume would be OK.

Could you explain why this edit was worthy of being reverted?

Cheers, 124.168.216.145 (talk) 14:59, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Namely, because I don't know of a policy that requires articles to be gender neutral. Sure, it's a small change, but I saw that it might have been politically motivated, and therefore you might be in violation of the Conflict of interest policy. Also see WP:ADVOCACY. If you do find a policy that specifically instructs you to do so, let me know. Tutelary (talk) 15:00, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

WP:COI states "the aim of Wikipedia [...] is to produce a neutral, reliably sourced encyclopedia". Being "gender neutral" would seem to follow that aim, and so is not in contravention. 58.6.234.157 (talk) 23:27, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

See WP:NPOV for that. You can also ask on the talk page of that page whether this is truly the interpretation. Also, I would seriously reconsider making an account. It will give you much more power and privileges on this Wikipedia. (Though again, is not required.) Tutelary (talk) 00:42, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, forgot log in. Just to be clear, I'm not the same as OP/editor, but I am 58.6.234.157. I think my conclusion is that I just don't care about Wikipedia enough to follow this up myself, but like, if anyone's action here was to be "politically motivated", it seems like it might be the one that was going out of one's way to revert an edit that i) in no way reduced the quality of the article, and ii) used a more general term instead of several specific terms. (I'm not saying you are so, but if you were to look at the two actions side-by-side — the edit, and the revert — that's what I would guess!) Kivikakk (talk) 05:18, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Please demonstrate good faith, as well as read the Wikipedia policy; Assume good faith. Do not talk about me as an editor. Talk about the edit in question. Personal attacks cloud up the discussion and leads towards animosity towards editors. If this were to be persistent, a possibility of a block is also in question. Nonetheless, also see WP:SHE. You're actually right. You should use gender-neutral language whenever possible. Feel free to revert my edit back. Tutelary (talk) 10:28, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Woah, I explicitly said "I'm not saying you are", and "look at the two actions": I was talking about the edit, and the revert, and nothing more. Your concern was that the original editor might be in violation of WP:COI; I merely supposed the same might be said about your edit. I'm the one who's been keeping this to edits. :/ Will revert. Further, your pseudo-threat of a block is really not cool. Kivikakk (talk) 11:56, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Ah, you did already. Great! Kivikakk (talk) 11:58, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

WP:GENDER states that gender-neutral language should be used where it can be used with clarity and precision. 124.168.109.57 (talk) 05:23, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

WP:GENDER is an essay by one or more Wikipedia users. It is not a policy or a guideline to follow. Tutelary (talk) 10:26, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

There is Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Gender-neutral language, a guideline that WP:GENDER points to. But like that guideline states, we should only follow that when "this can be done with clarity and precision." It lists exceptions. And if WP:Reliable sources usually use gendered language for a topic, I feel that we usually should as well, per WP:Due weight. Flyer22 (talk) 02:25, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

And, oh, "he or she" is gender-neutral language; just because a minority of people (significant minority) don't refer to themselves as he or she (are perhaps genderqueer) or use terms in place of the he or she pronouns, including terms that are not accepted as part of common language, it does not make "he or she" any less gender-neutral language. When it comes to the majority vs. the minority, we more so go by the majority here at Wikipedia...per WP:Due weight. That stated, I don't think that WP:COI applies to the IP/Kivikakk in this case. WP:COI is not about something like this. Flyer22 (talk) 02:42, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Joseph B. Platt

Hi Tutelary,

I saw that you tagged the entry for Joseph B. Platt for deletion. I did copy it from another source but I was trying to leave the source credit: http://www.idsa.org/joseph-b-platt There in the first paragraph is the source of the information. I was surprised that Platt is not in Wikipedia already. He designed the Parker fountain pen's iconic Arrow Clip and he was the set designer for the epic film 'Gone with the Wind' I am new to Wikipedia and I'm not sure how everything works. Can you assist me in order to properly give Joseph B. Platt the credit and acknowledgement he deserves? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LPWaterhouse (talk • contribs) 18:50, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

You cannot use any non-free text. In short, you have to paraphrase everything (and even then, if it's too similar, then it can be tagged as a copy violation.) For the reasoning on why this is a speedy deletion criteria, it's because it has potential legal issues for Wikipedia. You need to write everything in your own words, and while you can use it as a source, you can't just copy and paste the text and put it as an article. Tutelary (talk) 18:53, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

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Live at the Brattle Theatre

Hey there. I realize that the original author was blocked for jokes/vandalism in other articles, but Live at the Brattle Theatre was created before they were blocked, and is a real album by a notable artist. For future reference, just because an author gets blocked does not mean we delete all their articles. Deleting articles like this would be cutting off our nose to spite our face. Know what I mean? :) Steven Walling • talk 23:28, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I understand. I'll look into their block before I use the CSD nomination for it again. Just curiously, how would the CSD nomination category for blocked/banned users be used correctly in that sense? Tutelary (talk) 23:30, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

One of two ways, to my understanding:

1. If a user was banned for specific activities. For instance, if I was topic banned from writing articles about Evan Dando for BLP violations, and I did that anyway.
2. If a user is sockpuppeting. Often obsessive people come back with a secondary account to repost articles etc. repeatedly, even after being banned/blocked. If an account is identified as a sockpuppet and then blocked, articles they created in violation of ban might be tagged this way.

Of course, if someone writes an article that violates another CSD criteria, it doesn't matter if they are blocked or not, we should delete. Thanks for the quick and courteous reply, Steven Walling • talk 23:37, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. I understand what I did wrong this time and I'll make sure not to do it again! Tutelary (talk) 23:38, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

No worries, I know there is a lot of work to do with new page patrol, etc. We all learn as we go. Steven Walling • talk 23:44, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

April 2014, Reply

Dear Tutelary, thanks for your gently message. On the talk page of the article that you've updated, we have left important information that establishes a separation of the two articles in question. If you consider joining information from two articles, we believe that a redirect link is right. Best regards. --Escrituras (talk) 00:49, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Then create the text for the church, then. Don't copy text from another article. I redirected because this is the case. Tutelary (talk) 00:53, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

• Again, thanks for your help. We are going to create the text for this article. --Escrituras (talk) 00:56, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Unjustified reversions

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Heartbleed. Users are expected to collaborate with others rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.

Please assume good faith from other editors. If you resort to undoing their changes, please pay particular attention to how you do that. Revert only when necessary, and when you have to, do so in a respectful manner. --Chealer (talk) 03:35, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Speciality Restaurant

Hi, My page for the above restaurant chain in india has been tagged for speedy deletion. I had typed the information manually with basic info only and under the correct head. Kindly advise the what is putting this article up for speedy deletion. Thank you Cmadtha (talk) 05:47, 28 April 2014 (UTC) cmadtha

7 Th Day

dnt put the full plot and story in wiki as it is easily accessible to each and every one, i tried to edit it but who the hell r u to edit and put all story again and again in it, including the second climax and suspense, its still running in theaters, plss remove it Please see WP:SPOILER. We are not going to omit the plot just because it is still recent. It is Wikipedia policy to even include such things. Tutelary (talk) 14:53, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Archiving help

Thank you for your help with the archiving business, I think I've gotten the hang of it now --Drowninginlimbo (talk) 02:15, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Also I decided to add the auto-archive, I see the appeal of it and it will definitely help when my life gets busy again --Drowninginlimbo (talk) 02:16, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Whittl

Hello Tutelary. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Whittl, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 03:45, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

@FreeRangeFrog:, I'm going to stop new page patrolling, and focus on recent changes now for a while now. Sorry for all the trouble. Tutelary (talk) 10:10, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Naya Rivera wasn't fired

Hi Tutelary, A Rep for Naya Rivera confirmed to USA Today that she wasn't fired from Glee, if it was true Naya would have confirmed it herself

I've removed the offending section. The USA Today article came at 11:51 PM, after I went to bed. Thanks for letting me know. Also created a relevant talk page on the matter. Tutelary (talk) 16:05, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoseAurora (talk • contribs) 16:25, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Nexus LARP

Hi Tutelary, My page was marked for speedy deletion while in the middle of editing and revising its content. The page is a viable page that has all the needed information if not more than other LARP societies that currently have wiki pages. If there is some other reason why this was flagged for deletion please tell me why. I see no reason why any thriving organization should not be able to survive when attempting to get their name out to the public as a documented member of the business world. Pantherios — Preceding undated comment added 01:02, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

@Pantherios:, I tagged it for deletion under speedy deletion criteria A7, which means that it didn't make a credible claim of significance for this event/group. If you were to make a credible claim of significance, I'd be forced to remove the tag. Tutelary (talk) 01:18, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Saintseneca

Hello, Thanks for your message! In regards to the Saintseneca, I felt like being a new band that is on a major-indie label (ANTI-), and substaintial attention from major music new sources like Rolling Stone and NPR, and are on the major US touring circuit would qualify them to be notable for a wiki page, no?

Thanks. Jessrock12 (talk) 20:28, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Regardless, I saw that it potentially qualified for an A7, and when it was not. I apologize, as it is very bitey to mark an article for deletion, even if it sees as it qualifies for a speedy deletion. Added a few tags that are seen as needed. Since you're the one who created it, maybe you can work on that. Tutelary (talk) 20:33, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

I think it should be sufficient now (Saintseneca) I will continue to improve it as well. Jessrock12 (talk) 22:35, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Speedies

Regarding this and this: since repeated counseling and warnings have not been effective, the next speedy deletion tag you post will result in your being reported to the appropriate noticeboard. VQuakr (talk) 04:11, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Ferdinand Porsche

Why did you remove the lines from Ferdinand Porsche's Wikipedia page that stated he was a Nazi? Is this not true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.123.219.189 (talk) 01:29, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

I removed them because they were not substantiated by reliable sources. If you were to add a reliable source to the claim, then I would not have reverted it. But as it sits, it seemed unconstructive to me. Tutelary (talk) 01:31, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Dopplers

I removed the manufacturers names from Doppler page but there are only two in the world that I know of and yet you list some of the large numbers that make ordinary dopplers. This is inconsistent. Bryan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bryanbeattie (talk • contribs) 13:52, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

@Bryanbeattie:, I removed them because they linked to their external sites, and seemed promotional at my first look. I reverted back my other edit of mine, and allowed it to go through (though removed some of the promotional language according to WP:SPAM and the de-capitalization of 'app' according to Wikipedia's manual of style.) You're more than welcome to add them back, as long as the addendum is not promotional and doesn't link to their sites in the article. Tutelary (talk) 13:58, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

sock

Jimmy Carter was a sock, I tried to report it on the UAA page but I just got 3 edit conflicts and the name will be deleted from the page soon anyway so I wanted to make sure you saw this. Any similar names are likely also socks. —Soap— 14:24, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for informing me. I wasn't aware. ^^ Tutelary (talk) 14:24, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Neo-Nazism, Ukraine section.

As I briefly explained in the edit I made - the Ukraine section is inaccurate and echoes pro-Kremlin propaganda rather than being a reflection of reality. Svoboda is heavily referenced but is not a Neo-Nazi party, it's just a right-wing one. The Svoboda wikipedia clearly states in the second paragraph -

The party was founded in 1991 as the Social-National Party of Ukraine (Ukrainian: Соціал-національна партія України) and acts as a populist proponent of nationalism and anti-communism. It is positioned on the right of the Ukrainian political spectrum,[2][10][11][12][13] and some scholars classify them as far right.[4][14][15][16] Scholars and journalists disagree over Svoboda's politics, some stating members of Svoboda are fascistic or anti-semitic,[17][18][19][20][21][22][23] while other scholars and media, as well as Svoboda itself, state that its politics are nationalist, but not fascistic or antisemitic.[24][25][26][27][28]

There are no references for claims such as:

Svoboda's ideology is based on 'ethnic purity' with anti-Russian, anti Polish and anti-semitic rhetoric, denial of OUN war crimes and the paradoxical heroization of Nazi history with concomitant denial of collaboration.

By 2005 an important step of rehabilitation of Ukrainian nationalism was Victor Yushchenko's appointment of Svoboda member Volodymyr Viatrovych as head of the Ukrainian security service (SBU) archives. This allowed Viatrovych not only to censor ultra nationalist history, but also its official dissemination.

This is basically making wikipedia a Kremlin mouthpiece and I think it's unacceptable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.148.5.81 (talk) 16:02, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Chris Tomlin

I have put true info. Why did you remove it? I have a reference that proves it. Chris Tomlin the Most Sung Songwriter in the World

I reverted it because it seemed like a fan edit. The wording 'Most sung' seemed fan-ey to me. Though if you cite that source after the claim, I won't have cause to revert it as vandalism. It may promote other problems, but it wouldn't be considered vandalism. Tutelary (talk) 22:07, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Giardiasis

Hi Tutelary,

I wonder if you would be so kind as to read my comment under "Prevention" on the Giardiasis talk page. I'd like to avoid an editing war. As reasonable people we should be able to reach a consensus. Thanks! PragmaticRealist (talk) 22:51, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Jonathan Ziff

Hi, Tutelary I think that what I write down should not be DELETED! Please restore the comment that you changed. Jonathan Ziff Goes to my school and I think that I have the right to SPEAK MY MIND! Tutelary I think we got off on the wrong foot, where are you from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Williamjenning (talk • contribs) 00:06, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

@Williamjenning:, I will Assume good faith with you. I removed your comment due to its point of view as well as possible Libel issues. Plus, it's trivial in a sense. Tutelary (talk) 00:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Sergei Vasiliev

Hello. Editing of this article was originally full of ambiguities and problems, partly because our interaction was not efficient. You've made 2 attempts to block me as sockpuppeter, in both cases, my participation was not confirmed. I want to come to a consensus about the content of this article. Those sources that I described on the talk page are irrelevant, and i substantiated, for what reason. I do not understand what the cause to undo my edits, and now it's very reminiscent of edit warring.

Thanks.

P.S. I am very sorry about my English. Gdv777 (talk) 18:33, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

@Gdv777:, I filed for the sockpuppet investigation as you and the other users showed symptoms and encounters of being the same account. Not to mention you attempted to remove the exact same information as them, too. They've been blocked as socks of a particular user and your block request has been accepted. I won't hold that against you per WP:AGF. However, the sources that you are attempting to remove are reliable sources and a 'I don't like it' argument is not a valid argument to remove them. Tutelary (talk) 19:05, 6 May 2014 (UTC)