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If you have time before Friday evening, your help with this politics task force collaboration would be much appreciated! If you have questions, please ask them there. Schwede66 07:33, 30 November 2011 (UTC) Hi, I've been trying to do a little bit, but wasn't sure if I should indicate any change on the politics task force collaboration table in case I stuffed up the table somehow. Hopefully someone is checking each page to see how we're going and will do the adjustments for me. Many thanks. --Te Karere (talk) 10:38, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Re: Manaia (mythological creature)

Hi Te Karere - re this - why did you add a "citation required", when there is a citation for this, at the end of the following sentence? Citations aren't generally repeated in paragraphs - if several facts of a paragraph are given in the same citation, iot goes at the end of the paragraph. Grutness...wha? 06:36, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi Grutness - I'm sorry about my lack of understanding about the Wikipedia citation policy; I didn't know a citation at the end of a paragraph could apply equally across the paragraph. I have found some alternative sources on Google scholar that discuss manaia and the finger issue in particular, but need to login through my work after the holiday period, as they have to be accessed via a database. FYI, the maori.info source is very, very similar to Te Ara, with the latter having a discussion on the meaning of three-fingered figures in Polynesian carving under the first section "The Human Figure". This section discounts the idea that the number of fingers has meaning. It maybe I'll find better sources later.

On a related issue, why do you use "distorted" versus "altered"? " Distortion" has a specific meaning in Wikipedia. I am unsure the changes enacted in manaia could be termed "unwanted", and no attempts are made to "minimize it in practice". " Alteration" denotes a change without identifying the motivation, thus presenting a more neutral noun. If you don't mind, I would like to return the noun "distortion to "alteration".--Te Karere (talk) 22:38, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

I use distorted because that is exactly what is done to the shape of the Manaia. "Altered" implies that some of the features of the manaia are removed and others are added - distorted more clearly gets across the point that the figure is still complete, but is changed in shape to fill the necessary gap. These are fairly standard meanings of altered and distorted in the world of art and design. As to the meanings or otherwise of the fingers, if you can find some source which says they don't have any specific meaning,t hat's fine (though it's probably worth a footnote to say that some sources suggest that they have specific meanings). Grutness...wha? 01:10, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

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Treaty of Waitangi Good Article candidate

Note that I have again nominated the Treaty of Waitangi for GA status following substantial revisions. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 03:17, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

• Hi Te Karere, I am reviewing the article, but I will appreciate any input you may have , since you are a subject expert and intimately familiar with the literature. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 20:57, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

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Talk:East Timor#Requested move 29 September 2018

Hi, since the discussion result as "No consensus" maybe you, as the nominator, interested to took WP:MR process. Thanks. Hddty. (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Also, what do you mean by WP:MN? It redirects to Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/Noticeboard. Hddty. (talk) 00:00, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

@Hddty.: (1) Thanks for the notification. Moreover, thank you for your commitment. (2) Amended to WP:MPN, which I think is probably the primary argument for the move. The title was accurate, but is no longer current. Hence, the modern name should be used.Te Karere (talk) 09:50, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

I've just let loose a bit of a rant on Talk:East Timor, perhaps my arguments hold too much weight (hhahaha) and we should have a new Timor_Leste page if it wasn't already merged, it seems so silly... East Timor could be argued wasn't ever a country even for 9 days way back in 1975 before it was repatriated by Indonesia and became a province or territory or what not even during the wars... there is and basically never has been a country known as East Timor so we should be easily able to refute most of the arguments here on Wiki of people "arguing what? should keep be named what?"-- damn I'm doing it again here sorry. Tymes (talk) 06:58, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@Tymes: - Hi! Thanks for the message. I'm not here often (thesis writing), but appreciate the contact. Timor_Leste is currently a redirect. It is unclear why the page was moved. I could not find out any information in the East Timor Talk archive. The Timor Leste Talk page was deleted in 2007. You could contact the user DerHexer to find out why. If no move request was processed, there is an argument for deleting the redirect. The redirect might cause confusion for those seeking current and historical information about Timor Leste (versus historical information about East Timor). The answer under that circumstance is per WP:RFD: "if you want to replace an unprotected redirect with an article, you do not need to list it .... Turning redirects into articles is wholly encouraged. Be bold!"Te Karere (talk) 14:00, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

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English speaking?

One editor suggested that I don't know much English. Perhaps you do and can write something that is more clear? Let me know if you are willing to help write something clearer. Note: I do not speak Tetum, the language of Timor Leste. Vowvo (talk) 22:04, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

On the other hand, I think my English is fine. No help needed. Vowvo (talk) 22:07, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

s:Treaty of Waitangi

I accidentally reverted your edits to the description; I seemed to have missed the discussion you had there. Would you mind some more discussion? TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 01:49, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Reverted your revert as discussion complete (this is one of my publication areas - if you want to learn more, Claudia Orange is ok). Te Karere (talk) 02:19, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

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