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Flux (disambiguation)

Re Talk:Flux (disambiguation), it would be much better if the article's lede was just improved and we could use the lede. I tend to mainly edit dabs and computing at the moment. It's not clear to me what you're referring to about an intensive property, or from your wording, intensive viewpoint? Widefox; talk 11:33, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

@Widefox: sorry to take so long to come back to you, I've been having computer problems and need to catch up.

• The flux intensive property is the vector representation. The reason for this is very simple: the vector represents the value of the flux at a single point. This is the very definition of an intensive property.
• You stated on the talk page that "The second definition is a surface integral". That's not quite correct. The relationship between the vector representation and the scalar representation is that the scalar quantity is a surface integral over the vector field. This integral yields the total flux through a surface, not just at a single point. Since this represents the flux of the whole system/material, it is an extensive property.
• The author of the article clearly starts off from the vector definition and then derives the scalar quantity from it. In my field (electrical engineering) we start off the other way round. We define electric flux as proportional (in SI units, equal) to the electric charge enclosed by a surface. From this we derive a vector quantity of flux per unit area crossing the surface. We call this quantity flux density rather than just flux.
• You raised the question of the statement in Principles of Medicinal Chemistry that we can only talk about fluxes of extensive properties, the flux of an intensive property would be meaningless... This does not mean that flux itself has to be an extensive property. The authors say flux of an extensive property. The definition they give for flux is, in fact, an intensive property. All they are saying is that one can, for instance, talk about a flow of mass (extensive), but one can't sensibly talk about a flow of density (intensive). The flow itself can be described both intensively and extensively. SpinningSpark 13:24, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Undelete please

Could you please undelete, or move to my draft space, the just-deleted Christopher Freeze article. I put a lot of work into improving it for the deleted version I found, and would like to continue developing it some more, as it was my first article and the guy seems to be notable. Thank you for your time and consideration. Mrg00dbar (talk) 16:13, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

@Mrg00dbar: I've done this for you. You might get a better response in future if you stop pretending that you are not the original author of the first article. SpinningSpark 22:44, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

@SpinningSpark: You should really consider the intention of giving all details plus who then is the original author?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Iodeaux (talk • contribs) 13:44, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

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Kedar Joshi

Hello. I'm just looking to inform you that I opened a 3rd deletion nomination for the article on Kedar Joshi. It has been previously deleted twice, and you seemed to be heavily involved in the last one. I suspect, strongly, that the current author is Joshi himself. The author has recently made extensive and frequent edits of several other Hinduism related pages. The content of which (specifically the page on Kali(Demon)) relying heavily on Kedar Joshi's personal beliefs. == Nomination of Kedar_Joshi for deletion ==

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Your GA nomination of Air stripline

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Air stripline you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Navinsingh133 -- Navinsingh133 (talk) 12:01, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

nonlinear element

Discussion moved to Talk:Nonlinear element#Changes Nov 2017

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Reorg Ripple(electrical)?

You seem to be one of the guru's in this area, so I ask your opinion first. I propose to reorg this article, which involves the Ripple (filters) and Ripple current redirect pages. There's also a Ripple (electronics) page that redirects here that might need to be considered. This article is a union of two different topics with unavoidably the same name. Most of the info under time domain ripple voltage is covered (or will be covered when I'm done) under Rectifier#rectifier smoothing filter. It should be in one place or the other but not both. As discussed in the article, (time domain)ripple is uniquely associated with rectification. DC generator ripple can/should be discussed in the article (if any) about DC generators, since it is of a different form and has different implications. I propose the following:

• merge the time domain ripple stuff into Rectifier#rectifier smoothing filter
• merge the frequency domain ripple stuff into Ripple(filters)
• change the Ripple(electrical) page into a disambiguation page, with three entries:
  • Ripple(filters)
  • Ripple voltage linking to Rectifier#rectifier smoothing filter
  • Ripple current linking for now to Rectifier#rectifier smoothing filter

Ripple current can be caused by non-linear devices other than rectifiers (transformer actuated triac circuits in Carver power amplifiers comes to mind), and I don't know where in the encyclopedia such info might be, but when it appears, the last link above can redirect there.

Sbalfour (talk) 17:41, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Sbalfour, I don't have any objection in principle to that plan. If you go ahead, please ensure that the links at the ripple disambiguation page are adjusted appropriately and the merge guidelines are followed – in particular that proper attribution is noted in the target page history and the source page is marked for retention for attribution reasons. SpinningSpark 14:30, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

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Hello, Spinningspark. Voting in the 2017 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 10 December. All users who registered an account before Saturday, 28 October 2017, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Wednesday, 1 November 2017 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

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...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 17:51, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Planar transmission line

I've been going through GAN and trying to do reviews of some of the oldest nominations, which includes planar transmission line. I took a look at the article, and would be willing to review it, but wanted to check with you first as I don't have the technical background to be of much use with the content. I'm fairly scientifically literate, and I'd do some reading to see how much I could understand of the material, but I would understand if you'd prefer the article be reviewed by a someone with more relevant knowledge. Let me know if you'd like me to do the review. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:14, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Frankly, I think it is advantageous to have a non-technical reviewer. It's too easy to talk jargon to a reviewer who understands the jargon. Doesn't make for the best encyclopaedia articles. If you want to consult an editor with technical knowledge on any points you have doubts about I can point you to someone suitable if you like. SpinningSpark 23:27, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

OK, I'll pick it up. It'll be a day or two till I can start on it, though; I'm in the middle of reviewing another article at the moment. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:58, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

GA Review Air Stripline

Hello! I took over the review of your article's GA process for the previous reviewer, Navinsingh133. That reviewer's input in the article's GA process was very minimal, whereupon a second opinion was called for by you and the reviewer himself. I began my review of the article in November, beginning with its 3 main sources. I submitted my review, and now await your return to the process. I've noticed that you've taken regular breaks from Wikipedia in the past, so that this is no different, although perhaps a bit longer than the other times. In any event, I do hope everything is alright with you, that you are well, and that we see you soon. Thank you, and take care Spintendo ᔦᔭ 02:25, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm fine (well I was undergoing surgery last year, but that's not the reason I've been away). I just lost interest in Wikipedia for a while, but I still check for messages now and then. I'll check out your review over the weekend. SpinningSpark 23:31, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Planar transmission line

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Planar transmission line you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Mike Christie -- Mike Christie (talk) 00:02, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Air stripline

The article Air stripline you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Air stripline for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Navinsingh133 -- Navinsingh133 (talk) 15:21, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Good to see you back - and congratulations on getting Air stripline to GA status. --catslash (talk) 00:18, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Ta. I'm too busy playing Elite: Dangerous nowadays to pay much attention to Wikipedia ... and ever since I bought a VR headset - well there are just too many games :) SpinningSpark 00:24, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Precious four years!

Precious

Four years!

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Your GA nomination of Planar transmission line

The article Planar transmission line you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Planar transmission line for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Mike Christie -- Mike Christie (talk) 14:01, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

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Editing the bipolar transistor page

I'm sorry I do not know how to do all of this. It is my first time in here and there is a LOT of stuff about how to do all of this. I just cannot wade throught it all.

But to my original point, I disagree with the use of "convention current" to explain how transistors work. I have been using negative flow all my life, since the CK722 came out. I never did like the idea of positive current. The figure in the bipolar junction article is OK except that the arrows on the wires should be reversed. The drawings inside the crystal are fine. I believe the entire article would be easier to understand if "conventional current" was not mentioned.

Thank you for trying to help me sort this out.

Lloyd Rice Lloydr (talk) 14:39, 13 February 2018 (UTC)lloydr what's this ???

@Lloydr: First of all, it was not me that reverted your edit. What we write in Wikipedia is based on what is found in reliable sources. I believe that textbooks commonly use conventional current flow. If you want to do something different you will need to back that up by citing the sources you are using. You would also be well advised to discuss it on the article talk page first as the convention used in that article has been established for a long time. Your personal preferences don't come into it; everything has to trace back to reliable sources. SpinningSpark 18:29, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

OK. I think I am replying to Spinningspark. There is way too much info about how to navigate all these talk pages.

Of course I have seen the continual emphasis on citing sources. My source about disregarding "conventional current" would be some old history about how dear old Ben Franklin made a mistake. That's no reason we have to follow, now that we know electrons have negative charge. This is not scientific protocol. It's common sense. And that's what makes Wiki articles understandable.

L Lloydr (talk) 19:27, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

@Lloydr: You will need to do more than cite that "Franklin made a mistake". You will need to show that the modern view of scholars in electrical science is that a different convention should be used to conventional current. I don't think you will be able to do that. The vast majority of formal writing uses conventional current and that isn't likely to change. Neutral point of view (NPOV) is a core policy on Wikipedia. Part of that is accurately representing the views of reliable sources without undue weight. Wikipedia is not the place to right great wrongs. If you cannot sign up to all of that then Wikipedia is not the place for you to do your writing. Sorry, but that's how it is here.

Besides that, when it comes to a device like the bpjt with current carrying both positive and negative charges, it is impossible to choose a convention where one carrier or the other is not flowing against the convention. I think choosing the positive direction of current as the direction of flow of positive charges makes sense and is consistent. Consistency would require the sign of charge on the electron to change if the sign of conventional current were changed. Even less likely that that is ever going to happen. SpinningSpark 20:33, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Module:Location map/data/island of Ireland/doc

can you undelete this? 20:22, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Done. SpinningSpark 21:07, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

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Deletion review for Research and Analysis Wing activities in Pakistan

User:Ma'az has asked for a deletion review of Research and Analysis Wing activities in Pakistan. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Cryptic 18:23, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

closing templates

BTW, there's an easier way to do what you did in this edit. I use {{closing}}, and XFDcloser is smart enough to remove that when it closes the discussion. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:24, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Navigation pages?

Keep in mind that all articles on Wikipedia are navigation pages. All it takes is one link to turn a page into a navigation page. If you click on that link, you've navigated to another page.

Wikipedia is a hypertext publication. So absolutely YES it should include navigation pages, and every one of its pages should be (and is) a navigation page (that is, include links).

At the same time, there are no purely navigation pages in the encyclopedia. They all contain other information besides links. Even the links themselves convey non-link information (in addition to being links, they are also topics - so links on Wikipedia almost always convey topical information. In addition to this, all articles, including lists, convey inclusion and relationship information, and may also include further descriptive information.

Inclusion information tells us what topics belong to the current subject. Just being presented on the page (as a heading, a list item, or as the subject of a paragraph) can tell us that, or it can be covered more explicitly as prose (e.g., "cardiology is a branch of medicine"). Being included in the List of cats indicates that you are a cat.

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Further descriptive information is presented as prose, either in paragraph format (in regular articles) or as annotations (in outlines). For example, "Apples are not always red."

All articles, whether in prose or list format are both informational and navigational.

I hope the above observations help.

Sincerely,     — The Transhumanist    01:34, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

500 Crore Club

Hey, if you've got it then take it and run. I got turned around and thought it was 500crore club which was deleted earlier today. For whatever it's worth, after being advised to do so, the author appears to have started a draft in their sandbox. So make what you want out of that. GMG^talk 19:46, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

That sandbox shows the user is still trying to create an article. It is obstructive and bitey to delete his work. If you are trying to suggest that I should write the article, there is no obligation on me to do any such thing. SpinningSpark 19:56, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Sigh. Yes. If you are going to let an article sit around without so much as a full sentence in it, I believe you do have an obligation to do something about it one way or the other, and there's nothing bitey about inviting someone to the teahouse, pointing them to the relevant talk page, and suggesting they work on a draft in their sandbox. But nevermind then. I'll take care of it myself. GMG^talk 19:59, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Antennaes

Thanks for the note; I see from the page history that you are the original author of (the relevant part of) Nominal impedance. See Wikipedia talk:Plural of antenna for some thoughts on the matter. 188.177.108.224 (talk) 14:56, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

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• The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team has released the Interaction Timeline. This shows a chronologic history for two users on pages where they have both made edits, which may be helpful in identifying sockpuppetry and investigating editing disputes.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:23, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Pocket Cube

Hello, you recently moved a section in the Pocket Cube article and added an "unsourced" tag. I now completely reworked that section and tried to add some sources. Can you have a look at them? Should I remove the "unsourced" tag? Thanks for the help, I'm still a bit new to Wikipedia (and English is not my mother tongue). Judith Sunrise (talk) 15:02, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

@Judith Sunris: Yes, when you provide sources in response to a "citation needed" or "unsourced" template, you should remove the template at the same time. However, the sources you have provided might not be considered reliable and might attract a new tag saying that. See WP:RS for details. SpinningSpark 15:15, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

@Spinningspark: Thanks. I will do that. The third source in particular isn't very nice, but I couldn't find a better one. I'll see whether something nicer pops up. Judith Sunrise (talk) 21:58, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Electric bath (electrotherapy)

Hello! Your submission of Electric bath (electrotherapy) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Zwerg Nase (talk) 09:31, 3 April 2018 (UTC) ==

Hello.

Thanks

Thanks for deleting that draft. While I was writing it, I realized it was fictional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JuniorRocketScientist (talk • contribs) 18:15, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Tim Jonze

On 26 July 2017, you deleted Tim Jonze under G4. I have no idea what was the last version, but G4 wasn't applicable for deletion since it went through Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Jonze (2nd nomination), where you had supported redirect,[1] and the AfD resulted in "no consensus". Would you prefer restoring article? Thanks. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 18:03, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

So I did. I must have entirely missed that there had been a second AfD, the prod notice only linked to the first one. I was only servicing the proposed deletions needing attention category at the time, and this one needed attention because it was a prod on an article previously at AFD. Embarassing, that I actually took part in the second AFD. So, whatever the rights and wrongs of this article, I shouldn't have deleted it as I was involved, besides it not being a G4. I think the best thing to do now is to undelete it and send it back to AfD. SpinningSpark 18:18, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

How did you come to notice this by the way? Silly question, you created the second article. SpinningSpark 18:20, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

vertical-align on {{morse}}

Which browser/OS are you using? I have tried with several browsers (Firefox/Linux, Safari/iOS (desktop+mobile), Firefox/Android (idem), Chrome/Android (idem), IE11/Windows7 (using an online "browser testing" site)) and all of them align the dots and dashes below the text baseline, with the proposed fix working fine. Maybe your system's default monospace font simply doesn't support the ▄ character (in which case I'd say the problem's on your side). Could you please upload a screenshot of User:Cousteau/sandbox/morse#Official: to see what my fix would look like on your browser? It looks like this on mine: https://i.imgur.com/16flVFB.png —Cousteau (talk) 08:11, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm using Windows 10 with an up-to-date version of Firefox. I'm not using any special fonts (just default settings). Skin is monobook. Here's what the documentation page looked like after your edit;

Here's your sandbox;

Not sure what your sandbox is doing, but it's not the same effect at all. SpinningSpark 13:44, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Further to that, if I log out so I'm using the Vector skin then its more like you're expecting. So the conclusion is your edit does not work in Monobook. I know that Monobook is no longer the default, but there are still a lot of people using it. SpinningSpark 13:48, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

How about now? User:Cousteau/sandbox/morse — There seems to be some weird CSS rule in Monobook that sets line height to "1.5em" at some point (regardless of the final font size), and this made the vertical-align: X% attribute be based on this odd fixed size rather than on the actual font size. I have changed it from 50% to 1em to ensure that it is proportional to the font size. Do you approve? —Cousteau (talk) 16:10, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

That's working for me now, but I think it would look nicer if you set the height to be level with a dash. I make that 0.65em or thereabouts. I assume you are going to test with other browsers/skins before going live. SpinningSpark 17:07, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

It was supposed to be level with the dash... I have switched to 1.5ex (which is a unit that is supposed to be related with the height of a lowercase letter) which seems to work with all use cases. (Otherwise, 0.65em would have looked OK in Monobook but ugly in the default skin.) —Cousteau (talk) 18:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Good work! SpinningSpark 18:09, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Mass deleted photos by Taivo

Dear Spinningspark, Sorry for late reply. I read your notice today. I sent the second reply to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Taivo This answer should explain the issue of laureates' photos uploaded as licence-free 'own work'. The unique photo of Zener is also explained; Professor Riviere is available by e-mail. Documentation, names, e-mails etc. can be provided for direct final verification. The issue of Koster is under negotiations with Max-Planck Institute in Stuttgart, Germany. Koster's photos were not available for long time for obvious reasons (NSDAP membership). The photo of Mason's was popular in academic community for long time (it was not provided by Mason's family). Thus the two oldest photos were not taken by a precisely identifiable member of the scientific community and/or family member. At the moment we are working to approach old Professors in MPI to obtain Koster's photo made after 1965. (His photo from 80' was used to produce the Koster Medal.; the original photo is lost). You may approach Mason's old colleagues from Columbia Univ. such as Dan Beshers (91 years old), Mason's family, or Prof. Elbaum. I was told that older generation (Mason, Nowick) from Henry Krumb School of Mines passed away. We do not have other Mason's photos. Our Mason's photo was copied from Nowick's lecture.

The editor from German wikipedia has already explained that several references refer to bio of recipients rather, not to the Prize. This is why the references in German wikipedia has already been sifted by around 50%. I will try to help to delete such irrelevant references in short time (we were not aware about this problem). Information about the Prize exist in printed matters not available in internet. I understand that they started to publish announcements in internet pretty late. I agree that references were not properly selected to meet wikipedia expectations and requirements. Frankly speaking, I am embarassed that you classified, for example, Alfred Seeger as a non-existing person or faked reference. Such people like Zener, Seeger, Bordoni, Nowick, Granato, Ke etc. are well known scientists with significant contribution in materials science and physics. Photo of Seeger was taken before the Zener Prize Award Ceremony in Rome in the Concert Hall (courtesy of R. Cantelli). Let me first clean some reference. I will also prepare an answer to your post soon. With best regards, Andrew3789 (talk) 23:20, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Most of that is completely irrelevant. The images are still not "own work" and are still not your copyright and so have been improperly uploaded. Please don't conflate the issue, of course I don't think Seeger is non-existent. It is some of the refs in article that I think are non-existent. They still stink even after the massive clear-out you have just done. SpinningSpark 07:22, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Clydesdale Motor Truck Company

On 28 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Clydesdale Motor Truck Company, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Clydesdale Motor Truck Company was named, in part, after a breed of horse? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Clydesdale Motor Truck Company. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Clydesdale Motor Truck Company), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Clydesdale Motor Truck Company

Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Electric bath (electrotherapy)

On 1 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Electric bath (electrotherapy), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a luminous discharge could be seen around a person taking an electric bath (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Electric bath (electrotherapy). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Electric bath (electrotherapy)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Unexplained reverts

You are reverting constructive edits on article Golding Bird without explanation.

You have twice done this, and will be reported for edit-warring if you do this again.

Your GA nomination of Clydesdale Motor Truck Company

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Clydesdale Motor Truck Company you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of 1.02 editor -- 1.02 editor (talk) 02:01, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Sentence spacing

Double-spacing sentences is not the "proper" way to write or edit at all. This certainly isn't standard in literature, academia or media writing, all of which fields I have worked in professionally as an editor.

Nor do you have the right to take "ownership" of Wikipedia articles.

Neither do you, and deleting the beginning of this conversation off your talk page is hardly helpful. SpinningSpark 07:00, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2018).

Administrator changes

None

Chochopk • Coffee • Gryffindor • Jimp • Knowledge Seeker • Lankiveil • Peridon • Rjd0060

Guideline and policy news

• The ability to create articles directly in mainspace is now indefinitely restricted to autoconfirmed users.
• A proposal is being discussed which would create a new "event coordinator" right that would allow users to temporarily add the "confirmed" flag to new user accounts and to create many new user accounts without being hindered by a rate limit.

Technical news

• AbuseFilter has received numerous improvements, including an OOUI overhaul, syntax highlighting, ability to search existing filters, and a few new functions. In particular, the search feature can be used to ensure there aren't existing filters for what you need, and the new equals_to_any function can be used when checking multiple namespaces. One major upcoming change is the ability to see which filters are the slowest. This information is currently only available to those with access to Logstash.
• When blocking anonymous users, a cookie will be applied that reloads the block if the user changes their IP. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. This currently only occurs when hard-blocking accounts.
• The block notice shown on mobile will soon be more informative and point users to a help page on how to request an unblock, just as it currently does on desktop.
• There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.

Arbitration

• The Arbitration Committee is seeking additional clerks to help with the arbitration process.

Obituaries

• Lankiveil (Craig Franklin) passed away in mid-April. Lankiveil joined Wikipedia on 12 August 2004 and became an administrator on 31 August 2008. During his time with the Wikimedia community, Lankiveil served as an oversighter for the English Wikipedia and as president of Wikimedia Australia.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:05, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Spinningspark reported by User:Newzild (Result: ). Thank you. NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:40, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

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