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Sanfranman59

I've replied at Sanfranman59's talk page both to the Hartford County list question and to the photo uploading question. Nyttend (talk) 15:00, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

re: Thanks

Hey, no problem :). Thanks very much for the barnstar, and taking the picture in the first place! Cheers, - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 18:39, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

spoonville dam

Hey, thanks for the work on the Tariffville article. I just wanted to point out that the Spoonville Dam is technically not in Tariffville but in Bloomfield/East Granby. I'm not sure mentioning it in the Tariffville article makes sense. A good place to put this content might be in the history section of Route 187 or Route 189. --Polaron | Talk 14:29, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll correct it. Someone had a cryptic sentence in the article mentioning the flood that wiped out the dam. I did a search for Tariffville flood and came up with a reference stating "One is a study of Spoonville Dam, at the outlet of Tariffville Gorge" and failed to read the next three words "in East Granby". I'll fix it. --SPhilbrickT 14:35, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I see. There are two old bridges in Tariffville that were wiped out in the same Farmington River flooding, though. One is the bridge between Old Hartford Road in East Granby and Main Street in Tariffville. Another is Tunxis Road/Tunxis Avenue. I'll see if I can find good sources for that. --Polaron | Talk 14:42, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm still not sure what to do. It doesn't seem right to cover a dam breach in the history of a road. Makes more sense to cover it in the town history, but based on the location it appears to be technically part of East Granby, although it may be more relevant to Tariffville residents, than East Granby residents. That, coupled with my inability to see clear town borders in online maps, is making this a challenge. I'll wait a bit to see if you find anything, and mull over what to do.--SPhilbrickT 14:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

According to this the Old Hartford Avenue bridge (North Bridge) survived, although it was replaced later. Do they mean by the bridge now part of 189? --SPhilbrickT 15:11, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the old North Bridge is the one that used to be located just west of the modern Route 189 bridge. The Hartford Courant appears to have a few articles relating to the Middle Bridge.[1] --Polaron | Talk 17:35, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

nrhp mentions

Glad to see you developing CT town/village and CT NRHP articles. Pls. see Talk:Simsbury, Connecticut#NRHP mentions. The formatting/other issues apply for NRHP sections in many town/village articles. Thanks! --doncram (talk) 19:13, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Feedback - large increase in requests

The graph says it all, really; massive increase since we cleared the backlog and introduced a bit better system. As I've said before, it is a 'victim of its own success', I think. Currently, it is pretty backlogged.

Quite a few get missed, as you can see if you flick through the archives - but I don't know what we can do about that, really, other than hope more people give feedback.

The long-term solution would be to keep these editors; so many come to just create one article, and are never heard of again; if just a few of those stayed, and started giving feedback, then we'd have a more workable system.

I suggest discussion in this WT:FEED section. Cheers!

(I've send this message out to a small number of people that I think/hope will be interested; people who have given feedback, etc. if wrong, apologies, let me know.)

 Chzz  ►  00:05, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Question about moving a user page

{{adminhelp}} Occasionally, a new editor will start a draft article in their user page, rather than a user subpage. When a draft is ready to move, and I think the draft at User:DianeChojnowski is ready, it should be straightforward enough to move it to Home Energy Saver, but I don't want her to lose her user page. The last time this happened, an admin took care of it, but I didn't see what was done, so I'm specifically requesting that you not do this, but tell me what to do, so I'll know next time.

My guess is that I can do the move, making sure to uncheck the box that says "Move associated talk page", then simply remove the redirect from the user page. Is that all there is to it? (Then suggest that the user create a real user page, optionally). --SPhilbrickT 13:51, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

(BTW, if my guess is right, then it turns out I didn't really need admin help, but something made me think that there may be a step that does require admin bits.)--SPhilbrickT 13:52, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

That's right, you move the page, without moving the associated talkpage. The only reason you would need an admin is if the page that you wanted to transer to already existed or it was admin create protected. -- DQ (t) (e) 14:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I have moved this draft per your request. The user page is still intact and the user can develop their userpage in any appropriate manner. It's best to cancel the redirect in some manner such as I have demonstrated. So long as text is left and the page is not blanked, it should not be deleted. Mostly this can be done without admin tools but of course there are exceptions for various reasons. This example however was straight forward and required no admin support. I hope I have helped. My76Strat 14:08, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I think I made an error and now it may take an admin, sorry for any trouble, I will be working to fix my error until it is corrected. Again I apologize for my zeal. My76Strat 14:16, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad you noticed the error. Let's not bother trying to undo it. The only problem would be if it gets speedied and I don't think it is in danger of that.--SPhilbrickT 14:20, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I just fixed it without looking here because I was told there was an error on IRC. I have fixed this and tagged the error pages with CSD G6. -- DQ (t) (e) 14:31, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem - ironic that being too helpful can be a problem :)--SPhilbrickT 14:35, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, everything is now in order, the article seems safe from CSD criteria IMO. Thanks DQ, and also Sphilbrick for your kind understanding. My76Strat 14:37, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Hoaxes

Hi! If you meant that "Manimal" thing, here's the content off the deletion log:

Known for it's extreme physical endurance, retard strength, a love of muesli bars and poo-slinging, the Manimal is an often misunderstood, but ultimately lovable creature. Witness reports suggest the Manimal first stalks his victims, often staring at them though the cage with a thousand yard pradatory gaze, colloquially known as the "Prison rape stare". After selecting a victim, the Manimal typically throws and slams his prey around the arena, before finishing them with a barrage of Donkey Kong-esk strikes and a brutal choke. Little is known of the Manimal's behaviour outside of these observations, however some witnesses claim to have seen him parading around a sauna at a family resort on the central NSW coast, searching for she-manimals.

Definitely not eligible for inclusion.  :) --PMDrive1061 (talk) 18:18, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, works for me, but I couldn't see it, so wanted to make sure. --SPhilbrickT 18:20, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Pierrot

After having had some time to cool off, I've revisited the Pierrot page--and found much there to be admired! The other editors have made some wise changes! And I should have recognized this from the outset. I'm sorry to have involved you in a fray that is no longer a fray. I intend to go back to the page and try to improve it in a community spirit. Please do not, from this time forward, think that I am presuming further output from you: you have done heroic work that needs no sequel. Thank you very much for indulging a neophyte's editing anguish. And I hope to keep up the standard that you've set for WP. Beebuk 03:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

You have no idea how happy this makes me, which might surprise you, as I did not get involved. I did look at the issue, enough to conclude it wasn't a simple matter. However, due to a combination of work pressures (I'm working part of the weekend even now), and some intense Wiki issues as a result of the ongoing climate change Arbcom case, meant I could only devote a little time, and my judgment was spending a little time might be worse than doing nothing. I was chagrined to see some of your good work "torn up", but it wasn't clear that things were totally headed in the wrong direction, so it was going to take some careful reading to get involved. I still wish I could have been involved, but I am happy to hear that there is a positive outcome.--SPhilbrickT 12:47, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm happy to have given some relief to a friend! Yes, I think I can work with the page now: slim it down and spruce it up. Just had to get over some hurt feelings. Hope I haven't caused you too much disturbance. Many thanks for all your support. Beebuk 13:56, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

<3

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For your outstanding work, keeping WP:FEED users well-fed. Please take a moment to pat yourself on the back, for doing good things. And then, get back to it :-)  Chzz  ►  06:04, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

See reply on my talk  Chzz  ►  16:29, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Happy 10/10/10

Double Ten Day is, really, unrelated—but we don't appear to have a cool pic for this one

I suppose I should've timed this message at 10:10:10 too, but frankly, I can't be arsed. You know how it is.

Did you know... that tenten in Japaense writing are a little wiggly thing, a bit like a quotation-mark, which makes e.g. "ka" (か) into "ga" (が) or "fu" (ふ) into "bu" (ぶ) ?

So, take time out to have a bit of a giggle.

All the best, and 10-10 'till we do it again.  Chzz  ►  08:49, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

KathleenWL

Hi Sphilbrick, Thank you very much for all your help on my draft page. Much appreciated! I'm away on holiday so cannot work on the page but hope to get back to it on Sunday. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KathleenWL (talk • contribs) 09:18, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

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Throwing items of headwear into combat areas

Hi S. ! Me too, so before you do, you might wish to get some feedback and suggestions. Don't hesitate to email me. BTW, nice basketball articles :) --Kudpung (talk) 00:17, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for this comment. Saved my day! - Petri Krohn (talk) 20:17, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

feedback / approval request for User:Adrian-from-london/spiritual healing

Hi,

I submitted a request for feedback on this article on 10th October and received a reply on the 11th from user karenjc about needing to delay feedback. I've left a message on the users talk page but in the meantime would you be able to help - or do I need to submit a new request for approval. From what's on the new article wizard page it looks like feedback / review is mandatory before I can transfer my article onto the main website - is that correct?

Many thanks,

Adrian-from-london (talk) 18:24, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

photos of plaques

Hey, Sphilbrick, you're probably not aware of the copyright laws and Wikipedia policy/practices on these, but plaques and informational signs like File:March Route of Rochambeaus Army Bailey Road sign.JPG fall afoul of what's allowed, if copyright for the text is not in the public domain or otherwise released. Default is that text on a plaque is copyrighted. At historic sites you certainly want to take pics of such plaques for your own reference later, and for quoting from in articles, but you can't upload and use the pics directly, because the material is copyrighted. Like you can't take pics of every page of a copyrighted new best-selling novel, and post the photos.  :( This is something lots of us have had to learn. --doncram (talk) 14:50, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. It hadn't occurred to me. I thought of them as government created, but even I knew that the PD presumption is Federal, not State or local, so I can't use that excuse.

I'll arrange to remove them.--SPhilbrickT 14:59, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

stone marker one

I can watch here, and to keep the conversation together, copying:

On the chance that you aren't monitoring my talk page, thanks again for pointing out the problem with the signs. That's a real pain, as I find it helpful to include the signs for several reasons. I recall a long discussion at WP about how to properly cite signs; I thought some were suggesting posting an image, but maybe my recollection is flawed.

As an off-topic rant, I can't believe how hard it is to request removal. I spent a half hour searching for templates and instructions,a nd still don't think I did it right. It should be easier.

Back to my question: I'm thinking that a stone marker, such as this [2] does not fall under the same restrictions. What do you think?--SPhilbrickT 15:30, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the type of background material matters, but that marker is dated 1937, so it might be public domain anyhow, on basis of age and U.S. copyright law having been different. One way to find out is to ask at the copyright questions page: Wikipedia:Media copyright questions, if it's not clear from other links from wp:copyvio or other sources.

Hmm, see another posting; yes a plaque can be in a bigger picture in an incidental way, definitely if it is unreadable, not clear what rules apply for high-density photos that make a small-appearing plaque in fact fully readable when zoomed in. I don't know about that issue really having been tested.

See United States copyright law's section on copyright duration. I think it is highly unlikely that the stone marker's original copyright owner wanted it to be kept copyrighted, and that they also performed copyright renewals that would have been required to keep it copyrighted. By my familiarity with informational signs like the one prompting this discussion, which are recent and have a lot of well-written text, put up by historical societies elsewhere, I think the copyright owners of those do want to protect copyright. They often include a copyright statement, and even if not it is still copyrighted by default.

By the way, the different type of roadside state-level metal historic plaques that are posted in many states are probably not done with intent to keep the material copyrighted. There are websites which post photos of such plaques systematically. But to post in Wikipedia, we should first get permission at state level, for them to release individual ones' or all their state plaques' text into the public domain. There were some wikipedians working to get such release for New York state plaques, i recall, using the wp:OTRS system for correspondence. --doncram (talk) 16:25, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

MacArthur Airport disaster

Thanks, I've fixed the errors you pointed out. I'm glad you enjoyed it, I tried my best to write it so someone with little or no knowledge of aviation would understand it, and yet someone who was familiar with aviation would find it interesting. Wackywace ^{converse | contribs} 13:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. Regards, Wackywace ^{converse | contribs} 13:12, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Admin

Unfortunately, work is keeping me away from wikipedia, and it will likely be this way until January, so I do not have a feeling for the timing with respect to the current opinions at RfA. However, I would be glad and honored to nominate you should you decide to run now. -- Avi (talk) 20:19, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

After sending the note, I realize it is busy season, which in theory should deter me as well - for better or worse, my emphasis on tools means I'm supposed to be done before busy season starts (although we are scrambling to deal with some issues, surprise surprise.) My plans were to take some time off next week, so I was thinking about formally submitting Friday or so. I understand that in many cases, nominators want to be available during the week as well, to be helpful if some issues arise. I'm not looking for that type of hand-holding. I understand that Friday evening and Saturday may be poor timing for you, so if you are willing to nominate me, I'd be happy to go with a time before or after then, as best suits you. I haven't yet written the answers to the first three questions, but have given them some thought. I will do so, then check with you. I would be honored if you were willing to nominate me.--SPhilbrickT 20:28, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

As a former admin who resigned entirely voluntarily I advise you not to seek adminship. If you're really certain you want to do it I'll vote for you. But for your own good, please think again. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 23:55, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

I certainly don't think earning a lot of votes today :) --SPhilbrickT 00:03, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I would advise you to nominate yourself. I don't think you need anyone to stick up for you. There are certain cases where specialist process editors need a nom to boost themselves (e.g. "he has done lots of good work in HFRGA") but I have seen so many weak noms that I think a good editor in good standing should nominate themselves. By the way I passed by a landslide on a self-nom and I clearly had less experience than you at the time. Polargeo 2 (talk) 15:06, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. It isn't so much a case of wanting someone to stick up for me, it is more a case that someone I respect asked if they could nominate me some time ago. I said I wasn't ready then, but would consider running in the fall. And to be honest, I've seen nominations get off on the wrong foot because they weren't transcluded correctly, so I'd like to avoid that misstep. (Well of course you passed, I supported you which started the landslide—I can't support myself—j/k if there was any doubt)--SPhilbrickT 15:16, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. Support. Good candidate. Count Iblis (talk) 00:16, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

FYI

Eyeballs please

You commented on topic bans here. The wording's apparently close to consensus. It's now been updated as v3 and could do with a final check. Thanks - FT2 ^{(Talk | email)} 17:07, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Cambridge American Cemetery and Memorial

I noticed the edit you made at Cambridge American Cemetery and Memorial. I've left a note on the talk page relating to the burial numbers, plus some other suggestions, in case that helps (in case you were wondering what prompted this, I've done work on these sort of articles before). Carcharoth (talk) 02:49, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Oliver Filley House

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:06, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

WP:ARCH

I generally add almost any building, or district containing buildings, within the NPS definition (not structures, so things like Balsam Lake Mountain Fire Observation Station aren't included, and bridges go in WP:BRIDGES) to the architecture worklist whether the architect is known or not, regardless of how plain the style, regardless of current or former use. Perhaps within WP:NRHP I ought to make out a list of these things. Daniel Case (talk) 21:21, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, that's helpful. --SPhilbrickT 21:27, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Re: Your Feedback

Hey, Sphilbrick - thanks amazingly for your feedback about the Memorize.com draft. What specifically should I fix about the layout? Is there a page that shows the essentials of formatting an article about a website? I've probably run across something like that before, but there are millions of guidelines to keep track of...which is good quality control.

I know, for one thing, the little box with the website info isn't correctly formatted yet; I'm not exactly sure how to make that happen. I've seen that other website pages show a logo and have that whole box aligned right, not left; and they link uncommon terms like "URL" and "Alexa" to the appropriate articles. Other than that, what else?

I'm a Wiki syntax appreciator, but when it comes to being a Wiki syntax doer, I'm still a bottom-rung novice. That's the benefit of user sub-page drafts, feedback, nonstop revision, and never being in a rush to get new articles out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IrisColumbine (talk • contribs) 16:48, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

In the middle of something, will respond shortly.--SPhilbrickT 17:24, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Shekinna Stricklen article?

Women's college basketball is one of your specialty areas, so I was wondering if you'd be interested in making an article for Shekinna Stricklen? So far she's the only player on {{USBWA National Freshman of the Year – Women}} not to have her own page. Jrcla2 (talk) 19:44, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

For admittedly weak reasons, I've tried to stay away from any substantive editing of Tennessee players. Let me try this - I'll post a request at the main Tennessee fan page and offer to help. If that doesn't turn up something, I'll take a stab at it.--SPhilbrickT 20:18, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Save that picture!

I had a few minutes to lurk around Wikipedia just now and came across your discussion on Orlady's talk page about a couple of pictures you'd taken. I think you can save File:Southington 1167 Marion.jpg by adding it to Ranch-style house. Yours is a better picture than most of the ones there because it's close up and illustrates a different (smaller) variation, and I think the quality of the picture is better than most on that page. Your pic really is a good illustration of several of the features of ranch-style houses (see "Features" section). -- JohnWBarber (talk) 17:12, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm trying, not sure why it isn't appearing. Will try again later.--SPhilbrickT 17:26, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

OK, now it appears, thanks for the suggestion.--SPhilbrickT 17:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

A plea for feedback

Hello Sphilbrick, I know you have helped out here before and hoped you might do so again as it is quite busy. Chzz who is a regular contributor appears to be on a break and I'm not very experienced although I have given some feedback and will return to give more later. Best regards--Ykraps (talk) 10:38, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Sphilbrick

Hi Sphilbrick. I noticed you created a Requests for Adminship page some time ago; I was wondering as to what the status of that request might be. If you are still intent on running for adminship with that request, please do let me know; otherwise, I'll go ahead and delete the RfA page for you in about a week or so from today. FASTILY ^(TALK) 23:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I created the page, not Sphilbrick, as nom. It should remain up for as long as Sphilbrick is considering it. Being that it is not transcluded, and has the potential to become active, there is no reason to delete it. WIki is not paper applies here. -- Avi (talk) 04:53, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm well you created the RfA Avi; the template I'm using is currently limited in that aspect. If you don't mind, I would like to hear from Sphilbrick, as the final decision to run for adminship rests with him. -FASTILY ^(TALK) 06:53, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

My apologies for some miscommunication. Avi had indicated his willingness to nominate me, and I indicated my willingness to run. However, immediately after doing that, I realized I had selected a time that was not convenient for Avi, so I posted somewhere that waiting until January was acceptable. I didn't realize that Avi had found the time and written a nomination. Unfortunately, I'm in the middle of an intense three day workshop, so now is not the right time to transclude it. Workshop ends Thursday, I will look at it then.--SPhilbrickT 13:06, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Take your time :) -- Avi (talk) 18:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Expectations

Response to your review here. Considerable improvement on other matters too. FT2 ^{(Talk | email)} 03:02, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Question for administrator

{{adminhelp}}

I'm ready to transclude an RfA, and I suppose it isn't a good start that I'm not quite sure how to do it, but doing it wrong would be a bigger blunder. The nomination is here. Avi is offline. (He prepared it on 1 November, but I didn't realized it at the time, by the time I did realize it, I was committed to a multi-day workshop, so wanted to delay until it was over.) Is this something you can do? Or watch me do it and be ready to help clean it up if I do it wrong? --SPhilbrickT 18:25, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I had no idea myself the first time I stood! Copy the whole page name and add it inside curly brackets (like Wikipedia:RFA/Foobar) and paste it onto WP:RFA (there's a hidden note telling you where to put it). The exact instructions are at WP:RFA/N. Good luck. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:29, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Q from Sandy

Sphilbrick, I know we've crossed paths a lot recently, but with apologies, I can't recall where-- would you be able to remind me? I seem to remember you being "one of the good guys", maybe it was at DYK?-- don't disappoint me! SandyGeorgia (Talk)

This may be what you recall.--SPhilbrickT 19:03, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

ah, ha, thanks, thanks and thanks! Dashing out now, but will weigh in eventually. Good luck! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:15, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Re your email.

I do not think it is acceptable, however noble it is, for you to offer to proxy for a topic banned editor, even if that topic banned editor is me, and if such proxying is against your proximate interest. Further, I am not interested in searching for a lot of climate change diffs, as I am well aware that I need time away from the topic space to regain my footing there, so thank you for your offer, but I must respectfully decline. Hipocrite (talk) 20:29, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

It's in the interest of the project, and if it helps, I don't think it is against my interest. But I understand your position.--SPhilbrickT 20:57, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't think diffs are needed on those opposes anyway (excluding the mindless, everyone knows what they represent). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

YP17

Just as you only saw my question 11 after you'd already answered question 10, I only noticed your YP17 userbox after I'd already !voted to support you. Of course that sterling credential only strengthens my assurance that you'll do a fine job. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 17:34, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Holy cow, we'll have to talk. I trust you understand not now?--SPhilbrickT 17:42, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Request for clarification

...at your RfA. (Q #9) - jc37 16:42, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up - while I have (understandably) been paying close attention to the page, I missed that, as I was looking for new questions.--SPhilbrickT 17:04, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Added a new (hopefully last) question. And I apologise in advance for its seeming vagueness. - jc37 18:12, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

That's a very thought provoking question. A lot of thoughts are racing through my head - I hope you'll bear with me as I try to sort them out (not to mention that I'm actually at work, and trying to get some work done.) (Oh and just so you know that I know what you know - if a candidate gets it right after being given a second chance, the answer is far less valuable than if it was answered correctly at the get go. I appreciate the second chance, but fully expect to get "marked down".) --SPhilbrickT 18:32, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Not to me. Clarification is typically vital to understanding. And I think any answer to any question should typically be allowed the opportunity for clarification. Else, we wouldn't have threading on talk pages : ) - jc37 18:46, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

I finally responded, inadequately to your last question. I had a tl;dr and tore it up. I have a lot to say, but am struggling to keep it succinct. I hope however this turns out we can discuss later. Many of the questions have been thought-provoking, but I've spent a fair amount of time thinking about your question, more than the brief answer will indicate.--SPhilbrickT 00:59, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Speaking as one who has a bit of a tendency towards comments that can drift towards the verbose... never let brevity get in the way of conveying that you want to say : )

(Unless of course you are concerned that length will lead to a lack of communication or at least understanding.)

I walk that tight wire all too often on Wikipedia.

Anyway, presuming you were/are sincere in your answer (and I do believe so), you've mostly allayed my concerns on that front.

And if you would like to discuss this later, sure. I rarely shy away from opportunities for positive discussion, thought provoking in particular : )

And I actually do have one more question, but I'll just ask here: Why now?

I realise that you were nommed (and by someone I have more than a bit of respect for), and yes, it looks like you'll likely pass. But with the community still working on cleansing a seemingly poisoned well (of editors and topics), and things, as one person put it, still feeling perceptively "toxic", was any of this in mind when thinking to go for this? - jc37 06:56, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I was approached in the summer, by more than one admin who asked. The timing then was not good, as I have been working for three years on a software release planned for September. My short response was, let me wait until fall. The release came out, so work transitioned from crazy to very busy, and I thought it might be time. I confess that the timing relative to CC wasn't upper most in my mind. In my mind, it was over, although some comments make it clear it is very fresh in the minds of many.--SPhilbrickT 13:41, 13 November 2010 (UTC)