Setergh

AfC notification: Draft:Battle of Pinsk has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Battle of Pinsk. Thanks! -- NotCharizard ^🗨 04:20, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Battle of Pinsk (May 13)

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Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 05:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

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Wiki sourcing

Hello! Thanks for creating the draft. While reviewing your work, I noticed some minor issues and wanted to bring them to your attention. Kindly note that Wikipedia relies on sources. You need to provide references for everything you add. Also, Instead of listing sources at the end, you should add them in the text so that anyone can verify that information. If you require assistance with citing your sources, please refer to WP:CS.-- Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 08:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: List of armed conflicts involving Poland against Czechia (June 29)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SafariScribe was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 19:14, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Battle of Pinsk

Can you add citations to two paragraphs that are missing them at the end? Ping me when you do so and I'll publish your work, all that's missing IMHO are those citations for those few sentences. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:24, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I don't see any paragraphs that are missing any citations, so I don't exactly understand what you mean? Setergh (talk) 16:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

I have added citation needed templates to parts that need them - I hope this helps you locate the parts that need footnotes. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for adding the citations. I have now added it in both spots (deleted some info on one of the parts and replaced it with another one which actually has a reference to it). I hope this will allow the article to get approved. Setergh (talk) 17:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Looks good to me. @Notcharizard - if you concur, can you publish it? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:27, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

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Theroadislong (talk) 17:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Translation attribution is required

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you translated text from pl:Bitwa pod Pińskiem to Battle of Pinsk. While you are welcome to translate Wikipedia content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing requires that you provide attribution to the contributor(s) of the original article. When translating from a foreign-language Wikipedia article, this is supplied at a minimum in an edit summary on the page where you add translated content, identifying it as a translation and linking it to the source page. For example:

Content in this edit is translated from the existing Polish Wikipedia article at [[:pl:Exact name of Polish article]]; see its history for attribution.

It is good practice, especially if translation is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{translated page}} template on the talk page of the destination article. If you have added translated content previously which was not attributed at the time it was added, you must add attribution retrospectively, even if it was a long time ago. You can read more about author attribution and the reasons for it at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Feel free to reply with any questions, or check out the Wikipedia:Tea house. Mathglot (talk) 21:05, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Setergh. Thanks for attempting attribution in this edit, but that wasn't right, and I reverted it. The translation attribution statement doesn't go in the article itself, but rather in the edit summary, using a dummy edit. I went ahead and added the attribution to that article for you. Next time, when you add attribution in the same edit as your translated content, see WP:TFOLWP for the model statement text. If you forget, and have to add it in later, see WP:RIA for the model statement text. Hope this helps, Mathglot (talk) 08:59, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

External links in body, and translating proper nouns

Setergh, the article Battle of Pinsk, which you translated from Bitwa pod Pińskiem, has a couple dozen external links in the body of the article that link directly to articles on Polish Wikipedia. Per WP:NOELBODY, these are not allowed, with rare exceptions. Please use wikilinks to equivalent articles on English Wikipedia, where such exist. In the following examples, please replace the values on the left, with the ones on the right:

• [[:pl:Janów_(Białoruś)|Janow]] ⟶ [[Ivanava]]
• [[:pl:Kosów_(Białoruś)|Kosow]] ⟶ [[Kosava, Belarus]]

Where an equivalent article does *not* exist on English Wikipedia, you may use template {{interlanguage link}} instead (or its abbreviated name, {{ill}} ) as in these two examples:

• [[:pl:Byteń|Byten]] ⟶ {{ill|Byteń|pl|v=sup}}
• [[:pl:4 Rewolucyjny Pułk Warszawski|4th Revolutionary Warsaw Regiment]] ⟶ {{ill|4th Revolutionary Warsaw Regiment|pl|4 Rewolucyjny Pułk Warszawski|v=sup}} (but, see below about proper noun translation, *before* replacing this one)

After you have done those, there are about 18 more external links in the article; please fix them in the same way.

Note that when translating a proper noun in Polish, it is not like translating running text; in the latter case, it is normal if ten different translators come up with ten different ways, all essentially equivalent, of expressing a sentence from Polish Wikipedia in English. That is okay. But it is not okay for translating a proper noun. If the proper noun is a subject that is studied and written about by historians in English, then it is important to use the English words they use, not words we choose from our knowledge of the two languages.

As an example, consider the first example, which you translated as "Janow". But English Wikipedia uses Ivanava for this, so that is the term that should be used here, regardless what automatic translation may say. Now consider the last example, where Wikipedia does not have an equivalent article: 4 Rewolucyjny Pułk Warszawski. For this, you chose "4th Revolutionary Warsaw Regiment" as the English term. Are these your words, or did you find that phrase in an English book or journal? Because if there are reliable sources about this regiment in English, then we have to use their words, not ours. You have to look into what title is used most commonly in English sources. For example, Davies (2011) calls this the "4th Red Regiment of Warsaw Hussars" on page 40, unless that is referring to something else?

These are the things you have to think about in translating proper nouns. It is not so much "translating" a proper noun, as it is "finding the equivalent term"—that is, finding what English historians call it. So in the last example above, we should replace the first parameter with the English name of the regiment with whatever your research finds is the common name for the regiment is in English. If there is disagreement among sources, pick the most common one, or the one by the most reliable historian, if there are very few examples to be found. Does this make sense? Adding 7804j, Piotrus. Mathglot (talk) 08:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, sorry for these mistakes. Battle of Pińsk was the first ever page I've created, therefore it is loaded with many mistakes. I try my hardest not to such mistakes nowadays. Thank you for telling me this. Setergh (talk) 15:38, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi Setergh, mistakes are okay, that's how we all learn. If you have any questions about how to fix these, just ask. The business with interlanguage links and finding the right English name for a non-existent topic can be tricky, so ask for help if you need it. It would be good to start with a basic understanding of WP:COMMONNAME—that helps editors here decide what is the right title for a Wikipedia article. After that, searching reliable sources for the topic helps you decide what title is used the most in English, and the same technique can be used for deciding on what English name to place in the first parameter of template {{interlanguage link}} ( {{ill}} ). I assume you know how to search Google books, and Google scholar, right? These are not the only way to find reliable sources, but they are a good start. See also the Wikipedia Library. Mathglot (talk) 21:54, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

As someone who translated dozens if not hundreds of articles from Polish to English - feel free to ask me for help as well. Cheers. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:04, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Setergh, so, now that you've been told about it, can you please edit Battle of Pinsk and replace direct external links with wikilinks or {{ill}} templates, as explained above? There are still six external links in in the body that need attention; the ones in the references or in the § Further reading section are fine and do not need to be changed. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 08:50, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your Poland-related contributions

Hello and welcome Setergh! Thank you for your contributions related to Poland. You may be interested in visiting Wikipedia:WikiProject Poland, joining the project, joining our discussions and sharing your creations with our community.

_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:04, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for suggesting this to me, I'll consider it. Setergh (talk) 14:49, 12 July 2024 (UTC)