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Concert of Sacred Music, Dec 26, 1965

hallo sebastian ich las den artikel ueber duke ellingtons concert of sacred music. mit der tracking list bin ich nicht einverstanden. ich habe die aufnahme vom 26. dec 1965 (50 Jahre!), da steht bei mir was anderes drauf:

Track listing

   "In the Beginning God" - 15:54
   „Tell Me It’s The Truth“ - 2:50
   „Come Sunday (1)“ - 3:53
   "The Lord's Prayer" - 2:42
   „Come Sunday (2)“ - 6:05
   "Will You Be There? … Ain't But the One“ - 4:43
   "New World A-Coming" - 8:27
   "David Danced Before The Lord With All His Might" - 6:32

The album was recorded at the Fifth Avenue Presbyterian Church on December 26, 1965. gruss Lukas Müller
LupiLupi (talk) 10:00, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Antworten auf Talk:Duke Ellington's Sacred Concerts und de:Benutzer Diskussion:Lupi. — Sebastian 17:57, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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Barnstar

I wanted to thank you for the barnstar you gave me. That's very kind of you. Mattflaschen-WMF (talk) 00:19, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Don't mention it! Your barnstar, btw, inspired me to change WP:* so that others, too, can insert links. And Frietjes carried the idea on. I just love how good deeds can have repercussions at Wikipedia! — Sebastian 07:03, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Help: Should the State of Palestine be considered a sovereign state on par with Israel?

Hi, SebastianHelm. I noticed that you are regular contributor to articles relating to the conflict between the Israelis and Palestinians so I thought it might be best to ask you about my concerns about a particular Rfc. A user (Spirit Ethanol) has requested that Palestine be displayed as a sovereign state in its own right over at List of state leaders in 2016, and he has, in my opinion, falsely worded his Rfc question: "Inclusion of Palestine as a sub state of Israel"—which, in my estimation, is a blatantly biased question, as hardly anyone would ever infer that Palestine (i.e. the Palestinian National Authority renamed) is purely some sort of "substate" of Israel, more accurately rather a "quasi-sovereign state partially under Israeli occupation". Furthermore, the user also refused to gauge local consensus before launching the Rfc, contrary to Section 1 of WP:RFC; and refuses to correct the misleading title of the Rfc, so editors landing on the survey still seem to believe that the status quo is in fact not the status quo and vice versa, hence all the confusion and commotion. He has also confused the State of Palestine (state) with the Palestinian National Authority (government), erroneously treating the two as the same thing. Personally, I honestly believe that the user is simply trying to score pro-Palestinian political points (as per WP:POINT) and is simply in denial of the reality on the ground over at that disputed area or perhaps unaware. Due to the sensitive nature of the dispute, the survey has become heated somewhat with editors misled in believing that the PNA (and not Palestine) is somehow displayed as a subnation within Israel. This is 100% untrue. Per WP:WEIGHT and WP:NPOV, Palestine is not considered a non-putative and effective sovereign state on par with Israel and nations such as the USA and UK, et al. All that said, I believe that WP:IJUSTDONTLIKEIT seems to be his argument at the moment—as he has not personally laid out his reasoning sufficiently as to why Palestine should be displayed as a fully independent & sovereign nation—hence erroneously inferring that a two-state solution has indeed occurred. Thanks.--Neve–selbert 06:15, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello Neve-selbert, I am surprised about your message because I haven't been active in the I-P arena in many years. I first thought that you were canvassing, but I'm even more surprised that you only turned to me. To be honest, I don't even know what the "status quo" is, that you refer to in your reply of 12:03, 11 February 2016 (at Talk:List of state leaders in 2016); it seems as of now it is just what Spirit Ethanol suggests. So, if I may ask, what's the reason why you wrote to me of all people? Please feel free to answer me by mail.

A better place for this discussion may be WP:IPCOLL, a project specifically founded to tackle such conflicts. I've been out of touch so long that don't know how the climate there is now. The way we solved such problems at WP:SLR, the model for IPCOLL, was to first build agreement on which sources to consider reliable, and then list what these sources say. I understand that a special challenge of a list that can be only formatted one way or another that there's no easy way to apply our usual way of dealing with such situations by simply writing both viewpoints side by side. But that can be overcome with statistics and comparison with other countries: I suggest making a table with three columns: (1) name of state or sub-entity, (2) number of states and international organizations that recognize it (I would also include references directly in this column) and (3) how it appears in the list article. Sorting by column 2, it will be easy enough to see Palestine in context and treat it like the entities that are near to it in that sort order. — Sebastian 07:06, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

This is classic WP:FORUMSHOP-ing. User already contacted other admins and people: User_talk:Newyorkbrad#Please_review_another_dispute, User_talk:Number_57#Please_consider_the_closure_of_this_Rfc, User_talk:Robert_McClenon#Assistance_with_an_Rfc, and User_talk:Alison#List_of_state_leaders_in_2016_Rfc (via a request to another editor). SebastianHelm, suggestions have already been made in RfC to change layout to a table that includes more information (e.g. mirror this page). Have a nice day. Spirit Ethanol (talk) 07:43, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

No, Spirit Ethanol, this is not "classic WP:FORUMSHOP", since (A) (per the current definition there) this page is not a forum and (B) (per what matters to me), he was not trying, as a child asking the other parent, to hide the fact from me that he already asked at the first forum. Please, and this goes for both of you (Neve-selbert: Remarks such as "100% untrue" are not constructive!), stop trying to label each other and make each other look bad in the eyes of third people, but spend the time and energy rather trying to solve a solution that is reasonably fair to everyone. — Sebastian 08:57, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry if what I wrote comes across as patronizing. My intention was only to make both of you aware how you appear to a third person, to show you a view in the mirror. I completely can empathize that the I-P conflict is a situation that is taxing every caring person's patience. I feel about this just as I felt about the conflict in Sri Lanka – see WP:SLR#Sebastian's dream. — Sebastian 09:02, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Lithuanian vocative

Hello. Read this, please https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Lithuania#Lithuanian_vocative --Ed1974LT (talk) 10:03, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Interrupted

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Foto Karl Helm

Moin,

da ich nicht so firm bin in den URV's gehe ich davon aus, dass du das Bild nur für en. zulässt, oder täusche ich mich und die Datei ist auch in de. integrierbar? Noch etwas: vor einigen Jahren habe ich offensichtlich ein Werk aus der Handbibliothek von KH erworben, zumindest sind die handschriftlichen Vermerke und Unterstreichungen oft identisch mit dem Fussnotenaparat der "Altgermanische Rel.G." II,I. Auf dem Vorsatz befindet sich ein Autograph das ich als "Karl Helm" entziffere. Gruß Alexander Leischner (talk) 05:38, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Hallo Alexander, vielen Dank für Deine Anfrage. Meine "rationale" unter "other information" trifft auch auf die deutsche Wikipedia zu; das Bild kann also gerne auch dort integriert werden. Es freut mich, dass das Buch aus der Bibliothek meines Urgroßvaters in guten Händen ist; welches Werk ist es denn? Ich selber habe nichts Handschriftliches von ihm, nur verschiedene Ausgaben des Abrisses der mitelhochdeutschen Grammatik, eine von 1951, die andere von 1973, bearbeitet von Ernst Albrecht Ebbinghaus. --— Sebastian 05:35, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Moin Sebastian, danke für die "Freigabe". Es handelt sich um:

• Franz Rolf Schröder: Germanentum und Hellenismus. Winter, Heidelberg 1924.

Es finden sich zahlreiche Anmerkungen mit Bleistift in Süterlinschrift, die wie beschrieben, mit der Referenzierung im Druck des Teils der Religionsgechichte zu den Ostgermanen, sprich den Goten passig sind. Ich werde mal einfach eine Datei mit dem, wie ich vermute, Autograph deines Urgroßvaters hochladen. Gruß --Alexander Leischner (talk) 06:13, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh, vielen Dank, das ist sehr nett! Vielleicht können wir uns auch bald treffen; ich komme im Sommer vsl. nach Deutschland. — Sebastian 06:35, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Moin Sebastian, ich habe zwei mögliche Schriftproben deines Großvaters aus angegebener Quelle in de. hochgeladen und auf meiner Diskussionsseite verlinkt. Gruß --Alexander Leischner (talk) 07:26, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Dry wash listed at Redirects for discussion

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Template of the table

Hallo, Sebastian,

I would like to ask you for help. In Russian Wikipedia, an article has two tables in light khaki at the end of the page. https://ru.wiki.x.io/wiki/%D0%9B%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%8F%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA There are quotes of two linguists ( A. Meillet (Russ. Антуан Мейе) and J. Otrębski (Russ. Ян Отрембский). I would like to adapt templates of those tables for English Wikipedia, but I didn't know how. Could you help me, please? --Ed1974LT (talk) 07:02, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Interesting quotes - I didn't know that about Lithuanian. No need to adapt the templates: The counterpart for these two templates in the English Wikipedia are {{Quote}} and {{Quote box}}. — Sebastian 00:42, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you any way, Sebastian :) In fact, I wanted to use this Russian template for Lithuanian Wiki. Almost everything of English wiki fits to Lithuanian's articles, that's why I asked you for this. I have wrote an article Baltic Proto-Language already. Do you know anybody who would like and could translate it from Lithuanian for English Wikipedia? This article is faithful enough, here are lots of references. It's possible to write me in Lithuanian W. here--Ed1974LT (talk) 17:14, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	I just want to say that I appreciate the work you did on Ola Gjeilo. NorthernFalcon (talk) 09:58, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Most of the thank is due to Ola himself, though, since he was very cooperative. — Sebastian 00:51, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

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