User talk:Sdkb/Archive 11
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Your draft article, Draft:Motley Coffeehouse
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 19:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:Hunan Grand Theatre
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Your draft article, Draft:Donald Bentley
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Your draft article, Draft:White Pearl
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Incorrect Bot Changes
Hey @Sdkb. One of your bots made a change to https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/List_of_Blackburn_Historical_Plaques to correct some dates to Wikipedia standard format. The affected text was taken from the plaques in question, so the changes made the text inaccurate.
I'm pretty new to editing Wikipedia, so asked in Teahouse if there was a way to protect some content from automated bot alteration (https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#c-Scooby359-20240714172200-How_to_protect_content_from_bots). They suggested raising it with yourself to let you know of the issue, and see if there's any way to resolve it.
I've now been made aware of the {{nobots}} tag. Is there any other way I could flag this content to protect it from bot alteration?
Thanks, Chris. Scooby359 (talk) 19:21, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Scooby359! Thanks for raising this. Those edits were part of the general fixes set, which is a collection of normally uncontroversial edits that my or many other bots will make in the course of other edits. Normally, GENFIX would recognize and ignore text in quotes, but in this case there are no quotation marks so it did not identify the quotes as such.
- @Mathglot's advice to use {{as written}} on the quotes rather than {{nobots}} on the whole article is solid, as it's a much more precise way to target the issue.
- Cheers, Sdkb talk 14:19, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Sdkb That's great. I've changed the page to use {{as written}} so hopefully should be ok going forward. Thanks for explaining and teaching me something new!
- Cheers, Chris Scooby359 (talk) 18:31, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Hello. I'm reaching out because of your (semi) recent discussion at the article Talk page concerning the photo collage on the article, and changes being made to it without consensus. There's been a strange rash of revisions to the thing over the past four days, unilateral and without Talk discussion notwithstanding the request in the article source code, and my efforts to steer matters toward conversation and consensus. TBH I don't really care much one way or the other about the collage, but do believe that an FA deserves better than thrice-weekly revisions by editors who have decided that they like, or don't like, the photos at the top of the article. If you have the inclination I could use a bit of support on the issue of process at least - helping get interested editors talking about what the article's photo collage should look like, in the hope that we can find something agreeable to everyone, and stable. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 17:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for reaching out! I've found collages to be a notoriously hard area to maintain — for whatever reason, there's a strong tendency for editors to want to make changes to well-composed collages that make them worse. It looks like the stable version of the D.C. collage has been restored, and I commented briefly on the talk page. Best, Sdkb talk 04:48, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I don't much care if it's updated or not (though I think the existing version is *fine*) - but it does matter that changes be made deliberately and thoughtfully, taken from among suitable photo candidates, and not just something that caught a random editor's eye. JohnInDC (talk) 12:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
Culinary Institute of America photos
Hi Sdkb, I was able to get some additional photos for the Culinary Institute of America article. I've linked to them in my response on the Talk page. Was curious if you had any additional thoughts. Cheers, BINK Robin (talk) 20:49, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for arranging to have the photos uploaded! I added the one of students in the kitchen to the history section of the article, where I think it's a nice addition. I'll leave the task of integrating the criticism section into the history section to someone else, as I unfortunately don't have the capacity at the moment to handle it myself. Cheers, Sdkb talk 20:04, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks for adding that! And no worries, I appreciate the feedback and work you've put in, and I saw Melchior responded about the criticism section. Cheers, BINK Robin (talk) 15:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
DYK mistake
Hey Sdkb, there's a supposed image of Chopin floating around, which seems to be disproved as a fake ([1]); that is, an edited detail from a 20th-century painting.
It's been removed from the associated Wikipedia articles, but apparently it was featured on the main page as a part of DYK. See Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/January#9 January 2024. Do you think its worth starting a discussion on DYK about checking the chosen images more thoroughly? I don't know if this really relates to a larger issue or not. I suppose at the end of the day, its still an intended depiction of him, but I doubt DYK would have used it if they knew it was a forgery. Aza24 (talk) 00:23, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Aza24, I would absolutely bring it up. There is a prior instance in which a photo of the wrong person was used, so this isn't totally a one-off, and brainstorming about how to prevent it from recurring might be helpful. Sdkb talk 04:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, just got a conversation going here – Aza24 (talk) 03:29, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Growth News, July 2024
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Possible issue with rmCloser?
Hey Sdkb, I noticed that on Special:Diff/1238025322, the rmCloser reverted the archive wrapper and re-added the RM dated template. I'm just curious if you noticed anything peculiar with that edit and are not surprised to see this message, or if you didn't and there might be something wrong with the script. Courtesy ping TheTVExpert. Best, Bobby Cohn (talk) 18:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't notice anything unusual when I made that edit, so yeah, there may be some sort of script issue. Thanks for noticing/fixing! Sdkb talk 19:17, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
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Question from Abdulrahman nura (16:19, 12 August 2024)
Hi mento how i create my wekipedia page indeed --Abdulrahman nura (talk) 16:19, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Abdulrahman nura — see Help:Your first article. Cheers, Sdkb talk 19:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Question from Abdulrahman nura (17:08, 12 August 2024)
How do i create citation --Abdulrahman nura (talk) 17:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Abdulrahman nura — see Help:Referencing for beginners. Cheers, Sdkb talk 19:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
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Question from RICHAOBO1 (10:17, 27 August 2024)
Hi Sdkb, what's your best advice for someone who's new here and wants to learn how to edit and publish new articles? --RICHAOBO1 (talk) 10:17, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- My advice is not to start with creating new articles; go build up some experience with other tasks first. Then, when you're ready, read Help:Your first article and follow its advice, particularly about sourcing. Cheers, Sdkb talk 13:28, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which
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Infobox musical artist
Heya, I saw you added pluralisation control to the instrument parameter of Template:Infobox musical artist. Would you be able to do the same for occupation, spouse and partner? Miklogfeather (talk) 12:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Miklogfeather,
Done here; please let me know if there are any issues! Cheers, Sdkb talk 19:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Boston meetups?
Hi Sdkb! I remember coming across your RfA previously and wanted to offer a belated congrats for successfully passing :)
I'm writing because I was browsing Wikipedia:Meetup/Boston and have noticed your name come up fairly often in recent meetups. Do you happen to still be in the area? I was interested in potentially attending/organizing one as there hasn't been a single in-person meetup in the region this year to my knowledge. I managed to catch the tail end of one nearly a decade ago but the opportunity has eluded me since. I'm close by and my schedule is relatively flexible for the coming months, and I'd love to meet some other contributors in the area. Would you happen to have any insight into what goes into organizing one of these (room reservation process, etc)? Appreciate it! ~Liancetalk 19:20, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Liance; thank you! I'm not in the Boston area most of the year (although I will be at WikiConference North America in Indianapolis in a few weeks), but best wishes with arranging a meetup! Sdkb talk 19:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick reply! I'll reach out to some other editors who might be in the area. Perhaps our paths will cross sometime in the future. Best, ~Liancetalk 23:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from Larry0909 (00:25, 10 September 2024)
Where is the little picture of a magnifying glass to click on to enter an item to locate and read? --Larry0909 (talk) 00:25, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- If you are searching for the search bar, try zooming out on your browser. win8x (talking | spying) 20:01, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Larry0909 Pinging because I forgot :) win8x (talking | spying) 20:20, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
She remembers
Last year, you wrote Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-01-01/In_the_media#How_to_get_divorced_on_Wikipedia. Apparently, there are no hard feelings:[2] (last question). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:25, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Could use some closing expertise
Hey, Sdkb! I'm looking to get the gears turning on the admin recall RfC, but a lot of the sections have been sitting open for a while. Since I know you have experience with RfC closes, would you be willing to help close a few sections? It looks like we won't be going right to implementation from there, so the closes are mainly advisory – helps in putting together the next discussion (fingers crossed!). Thanks in advance :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:37, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:If this year
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RFA2024 update: Discussion-only period now open for review
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| Great seeing you again at WCNA! Your talk made me feel the urge to get back into copyediting FACs (though I'm scared of how much the whole FA process may have changed since I was last doing that, uh... ten years ago... @_@) Anyway, till next time IRL and in the meantime, see you round the wikis! Accedietalk to me 16:00, 7 October 2024 (UTC) |
- Thanks, Accedie! Good luck with any FACs you launch! Sdkb talk 17:26, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
A goat for you!
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I want to thank you for your lecture on article quality degradation at WCNA. I dare say it was the most interesting and useful talk of the whole conference.
—Compassionate727 (T·C) 19:11, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- That's high praise, Compassionate727; thank you! (For any talk page stalkers, the presentation slides, based off my essay WP:ENDURE, are here, and the audio will be up soon once they process it.) Sdkb talk 17:30, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
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| Thank you for successfully completing all 13 tasks in the 2024 edition of the Editing Challenge! We hope you continue to contribute towards different sister projects. OhanaUnitedTalk page 05:05, 12 October 2024 (UTC) |
- Thanks, OhanaUnited! I had noticed in the closing session that you listed me as only having completed some of the tasks, so I was wondering where I had been disqualified; I guess this means I actually wasn't disqualified after all? Sdkb talk 17:23, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- I was in a hurry and might have missed some things (or that I only saw some of your tasks being marked as complete when I was creating the slides, and you subsequently updated the table). OhanaUnitedTalk page 21:23, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- @OhanaUnited, I updated the table just before the noon deadline that was announced. No worries — it was indeed a tight timeline! For next year, it might make sense to announce an earlier deadline, so that you can be sure to consider all the contributions submitted by then. Cheers, Sdkb talk 21:28, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I was updating it around noon. Probably it was still using an outdated cache on my laptop so it didn't show your 13 completed tasks. I'll mark that as a to-do item next year. The time crunch was definitely difficult to manage since we had to hand out a physical prize (rather than just virtual). OhanaUnitedTalk page 23:22, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- @OhanaUnited, I updated the table just before the noon deadline that was announced. No worries — it was indeed a tight timeline! For next year, it might make sense to announce an earlier deadline, so that you can be sure to consider all the contributions submitted by then. Cheers, Sdkb talk 21:28, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- I was in a hurry and might have missed some things (or that I only saw some of your tasks being marked as complete when I was creating the slides, and you subsequently updated the table). OhanaUnitedTalk page 21:23, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Growth News, October 2024
Current work
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Question from Germitage (01:55, 25 October 2024)
I am glad to have a mentor, and hope you're not an AI. I was reading the wikipedia article on Alfred Orage, and found a few items in the article that I thought I could illuminate with material from my own library and researches. It was surprising how many paths that led me down, and the limitations that Google search still has (i.e., I was able to find information it had not incorporated into its dataset, and I'm by no means a search expert.) Anyway, I added my discoveries to the best of my ability to the Talk page for this article. I don't like to concept of me being able to edit an article live any more than I think a writer should be published just because he wants to be. I am hoping that my information makes for a more accurate and interesting article. Incidentally, in the box at the beginning about improving the article it suggests that a photo be added, but the article does have one...can I suggest that suggestion be corrected? Well, thanks for reading this if you have and please feel free to write me back at any time. Germitage --Germitage (talk) 01:55, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Germitage! I'm not an AI (at least that I'm aware...). Thanks for contributing your knowledge to Talk:Alfred Richard Orage and hope you stick around to make more contributions elsewhere!
- I've removed the image request from the talk page. It was asking for a freely licensed image, whereas the one there now is fair use, but for a historical figure it's unlikely that anyone will be able to fulfill such a request (you can't go take a picture of a deceased person the same way you can a building...) so it wasn't doing much good.
- Regarding the information about him, Wikipedia foundationally aims to be a tertiary source compiling the information found in secondary sources like newspapers and books. As such, we do not accept original research that has not been published elsewhere. That may somewhat limit what would be appropriate to contribute to the article at this point. But to the extent you can find sources that back up the information you'd like to add, we encourage you to be bold and add it! That article is currently assessed as C-class, so there is lots of room for improvement!
- Cheers, Sdkb talk 03:15, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you kindly for your helpful information. I think I can document all the comments I made in the talk page from published (even if not easily available) sources. The main thing I worry about is "where to stop" :)
- For instance, the article mentions that Orage's gravestone has an Enneagram on it. I found three sources that confirm that: a mention of it in his biography, a description of the gravestone from the website of the churchyard where he's buried, showing a drawing of the enneagram, and a photo of the gravestone found on a site called findagrave.com. It seems like overkill to provide all those sources, but I don't have any reason to include one than another. I don't even know if it's permitted to include the findagrave link.
- Also, the current text states that his disciples paid for the creation of the gravestone, but none of my sources corroborate that.
- Anyway, I feel a little guilty to include all this, but since you answered my last question, I thought I'd ask this.
- Maybe I should just go ahead and put all the stuff I found into the appropriate places in the article, and see what other editors decide is appropriate. I am perfectly willing to accept the decision of editors; in any case, I assume all my wonderful work, even if not used, will always be stashed away in the talk page. Germitage (talk) 05:04, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Germitage, good questions! First, on "where to stop", the guiding principles for what information to include or not include in an article are WP:DUEWEIGHT and WP:SUMMARYSTYLE. Basically, information that has been discussed by reliable sources can be included in a concise manner. The definition of a reliable source can be complex, but Find A Grave would not be considered reliable because it contains user-generated content. In general, I would include only the highest-quality source(s) for a piece of information that are available — the goal is always to ensure that facts are verifiable, so if e.g. there's an NYT feature available, no need to include anything else.
- Regarding the current text, is there a citation for that fact? If so, you can check whether it corroborates it. If so, we're good. If there is but it doesn't, you could add the {{failed verification}} tag to the sentence (let me know if you need help doing so) or just remove the fact entirely if you suspect it is false. If there's no citation, the typical steps are to either remove it (again, best to do this when you suspect it's false) or tag it with {{citation needed}} (although in this case, I wouldn't do that since the orange tag at the top of the article covers that, and we don't want to tag bomb).
- Regarding the last question, yes, I'd definitely encourage you to be bold and edit the article directly! The revision history is stored permanently, so if you accidentally mess anything up it'll be easy for others to fix it.
- Cheers, Sdkb talk 21:58, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Per capita
Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Per capita has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:27, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
What should be done about 2020 census results on US city/town/CDP articles?
Hi Sdkb. I noticed that you proposed on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities that the discussion about the 2020 census issue be moved to another location, but then it looks like you reverted your own edit. I think moving the discussion elsewhere is a good idea. We don't want a page devoted to a broad subject like cities to be swamped with potentially dozens of longish entries about a subject few people will be interested in. Closing the topic with a pointer to where the discussion is continuing seems to be the way to go. Why the revert? PopePompus (talk) 18:48, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- I meant to close the thread at the Village Pump, pointing to the discussion you started at WT:CITIES to consolidate everything there. Sillily, I accidentally closed the discussion at WT:CITIES, circularly redirecting to WT:CITIES. I reverted that and then closed the discussion I meant to at the pump. Hope that clarifies! Cheers, Sdkb talk 18:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Questions from Maxsudova Kamola Maxmudovna (08:40, 29 October 2024)
Assalomu alaykum men iqtibozni qanday yarataman --Maxsudova Kamola Maxmudovna (talk) 08:40, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Assalomu alaykum vikipediya nima qanday joylayman --Maxsudova Kamola Maxmudovna (talk) 08:48, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Assalomu alaykum iqtibozni qanday yarataman --Maxsudova Kamola Maxmudovna (talk) 08:59, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Maxsudova Kamola Maxmudovna: Hi! Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia. We have an Uzbek edition that may be useful to you — see uz:Bosh Sahifa.
- Salom! Vikipediya - bu onlayn ensiklopediya. Bizda siz uchun foydali boʻlishi mumkin boʻlgan oʻzbekcha nashr mavjud — ushbu sahifaga qarang: uz:Bosh Sahifa Sdkb talk 14:15, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
DYK for Mobtown Ballroom
On 30 October 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mobtown Ballroom, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mobtown Ballroom and Café enlisted volunteers to build its sprung wood floor by hand – twice? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mobtown Ballroom. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Mobtown Ballroom), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Administrator election votes
Hi talk page stalkers! I'm casting my votes in the administrator elections, and in the spirit of Wikipedian transparency (and experimenting with RfA dynamics) I figured I'd disclose how I'm voting.
Some process notes: I spent roughly 1-2 hr. making my choices. I relied on a mixture of information in candidate guides, the statements/questions/discussion on nomination pages, and (in a few cases) my own impressions of the candidate from past interactions. If you do the math with the timing, you'll see that it doesn't work out to much time per candidate, so in some cases snap judgements/cursory looks were involved. Therefore, no one should take my choices to carry much weight as an (anti-)endorsement (unlike my normal RfA !votes, where I tend not to weigh in unless I have a strong view I'll stand behind). I chose not to make any abstentions, since (unlike RfA neutrals) those don't have any impact.
Overall, I think I was somewhat tougher than I would be at a normal RfA, both to compensate for the fact that they are receiving less scrutiny than normal candidates (and thus small observed issues may hint at larger missed ones) and because the culture of AEC seems to involve fewer nominators who might have caught issues in vetting. (Some advice for candidates: Run with nominators! Their endorsement will help you, and you'll avoid giving the impression that you don't have them because no one was willing.) Some issues that I'd probably have been able to overlook at a normal RfA, such as a lack of quality content nominations, therefore became WP:NOTQUITEYET dealbreakers here.
If anyone wants to know why I voted a particular way on a particular candidate, I'll be happy to discuss if I can remember. I'm also open to being persuaded if anyone wants to convince me I'm wrong about a candidate and should revote (I view dialogue with you all, who I probably trust more than the average Wikipedian, as a step in the process to help me catch instances where I might be voting differently than I would had I done more thorough vetting). With that preamble done, my votes:
| Candidate | My vote | % outcome |
|---|---|---|
| Ahecht | Yes | 76.32% |
| AntiDionysius | Yes | 64.75% |
| Bastun | No | 51.24% |
| DoubleGrazing | Yes | 74.63% |
| Dr vulpes | Yes | 76.48% |
| EggRoll97 | No | 39.89% |
| FOARP | Yes | 71.66% |
| Frost | No | 27.57% |
| Hawkeye7 | No | 44.12% |
| Knightoftheswords281 | No | 16.08% |
| Leonidlednev | No | 25.14% |
| LindsayH | Yes | 66.48% |
| MarcGarver | Yes | 68.91% |
| Mdewman6 | Yes | 59.82% |
| Pbritti | Yes | 67.37% |
| Peaceray | Yes | 71.62% |
| Pharaoh of the Wizards | No | 40.53% |
| Queen of Hearts | Yes | 78.74% |
| Robert McClenon | No | 55.70% |
| Rsjaffe | Yes | 78.19% |
| Sable232 | No | 55.03% |
| SD0001 | Yes | 75.18% |
| SilverLocust | Yes | 82.42% |
| Sohom Datta | Yes | 73.40% |
| Spy-cicle | No | 39.34% |
| Starship.paint | No | 54.34% |
| SWinxy | No | 48.70% |
| ThadeusOfNazereth | Yes | 78.48% |
| The Squirrel Conspiracy | No | 64.55% |
| Valenciano | Yes | 68.42% |
| Velella | No | 49.22% |
| Zippybonzo | No | 17.77% |
Lastly, one overall impression about the process: While I appreciate that the random sorting helped avoid any undue scrutiny of candidates based on alphabetical order of usernames, it made it quite a bit harder to match everyone up with the voter guides/nomination pages as I was going through them. I hope that we'll find a way to make this easier if we do this again.
Cheers, Sdkb talk 05:21, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Appreciate the transparency :) There's a few where we voted differently, but nothing I feel like I need to argue with you over. As to your last point: I'd prefer an alphabetical listing where the starting point is random (so every candidate shows up at the top the same number of times, but it's not too hard to correlate to an actual alphabetical list elsewhere). Elli (talk | contribs) 05:55, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- That's a good idea! Sdkb talk 05:57, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- I love that idea. I have filed phab:T378313! HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- That's a good idea! Sdkb talk 05:57, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- I like that "somewhat tougher than I would be at a normal RfA" still means 17 yes. Helps give me hope that we will get a bunch of new admins out of this experiment. -- asilvering (talk) 09:40, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- I've added an outcomes column now that results have been released. It appears that I was more generous than the electorate as a whole. Sdkb talk 22:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – November 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2024).
Administrator changes
CheckUser changes
Oversighter changes
Guideline and policy news
- Following a discussion, the discussion-only period proposal that went for a trial to refine the requests for adminship (RfA) process has been discontinued.
- Following a request for comment, Administrator recall is adopted as a policy.
Technical news
- Mass deletions done with the Nuke tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. T366068
Arbitration
- RoySmith, Barkeep49 and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2024 Arbitration Committee Elections. ThadeusOfNazereth and Dr vulpes are reserve commissioners.
- Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate from 3 November 2024 until 12 November 2024 to stand in the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections.
- The Arbitration Committee is seeking volunteers for roles such as clerks, access to the COI queue, checkuser, and oversight.
Miscellaneous
- An unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in November 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!
DYK for Genesis (Lebrun)
On 8 November 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Genesis (Lebrun), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Rico Lebrun refused to submit sketches of Genesis (detail pictured), a mural commissioned by Pomona College, for approval by its board of trustees? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Genesis (Lebrun). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Genesis (Lebrun)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.