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Sqornshellous

Note: in most if not all editions of the Hitchhiker novels, the spelling is "Sqornshellous". Cheers, MetaEd (talk) 03:23, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

I apologise, however, Sqornshellous is not the standard spelling in all editions, compare [1], [2] and [3], editions of Life, the Universe and Everything. [2] always uses Sqornshellous, [3] always uses Squornshellous and [1] uses Sqornshellous in "Sqornshellous Zeta" and Squornshellous in "Squornshellous Swamptalk" (one of which is most likely an error). It may be variation between US and UK editions. In any case, I was aware of the inconsistency already and I have ammended Sqornshellous/Squornshellous as alternative spellings. Sorry for being pedantic, bye.

- ReconditeRodent (talk) 10:27, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

My review of published editions of the Adams Hitchhiker novels turned up no inconsistency. All used "Sqo". See my research results at “User:Metaed#Notes”. Perhaps the examples you found which use the "Squo" spelling are not from published editions of Adams' work. They seem to be reproductions by third parties. At least one edition of the radio scripts did use the "Squo" spelling, as well as at least one edition of Eoin Colfer's sequel. Sorry for being pedantic also. Cheers! MetaEd (talk) 18:45, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

It appears Sqornshellous is the correct spelling, thanks for sorting the matter out. This doesn't, however, explain the spelling in the Google Books edition, which is usually reliable and appears to have been scanned directly. This must either be an error introduced during re-publication or a mistake on Adams' part. Also, it shows how "geeky" (or "devoted", if you like) the Hitchhiker's fanbase is to have a discussion about the spelling of a minor location in his series. I have ammended Sqornshellous as the correct spelling and Squornshellous as a misspelling where necessary. So long, and thanks.

- ReconditeRodent (talk) 19:14, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

I am curious: which Google Books edition used the "Squo" spelling? The ones I reviewed, including the one you linked to, don't; they use the "Sqo" spelling. Cheers! MetaEd (talk) 22:33, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

[4] mostly spells it "Sqo" but it is written "Squo" in the phrase "Squornshellous Swamptalk" and "Sqo" in "Sqornshellous Zeta", search for "Squornshellous" and you should find it.

I have also had a chance to review my own copy of Life, the Universe and Everything from 1982

First published 1982 by Pan Books Ltd,

It uses the "Squo" spelling consistently as does my 1985 edition of So long, and thanks for all the fish

First published 1984 by Pan Books This edition published 1985 by Pan Books

which uses it twice in the phrase "Squornshellous Beta". This leads to the question of how did the "Sqornshellous" spelling end up in later editions? Perhaps Adams had intended it to be spelt "Sqo" and asked them to ammend it upon republication. In any case, Squornshellous and Sqornshellous both appear to be acceptable spellings. Thanks!

- ReconditeRodent (talk) 09:58, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the gastropod articles!

Hi ReconditeRodent, I wanted to say welcome to Wikipedia and thank you so much for the very nice new article on Helix nucula. This new article is a very useful addition to WikiProject Gastropods, of which I am a member. I wonder if perhaps you have a particular interest in gastropods? If so, I would like to give you this invitation to our very informal group:

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Another one!

And thanks for Helix figulina too! By the way, the shell photos on AnimalBase are free use and can be uploaded to WIkimedia Commons so that we can use them in the article. Here is the Commons Upload Wizard intro page if you are interested:

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Dear ReconditeRodent,

Thank you for deleting the Mister Gusty page, sorry for any complications it caused. It was supposed to be a test. -Hamer(talk) 23:17, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry, if you want to perform tests you may do them in your personal sandbox.

– Happy Editing, ReconditeRodent (talk) 23:22, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for your recent cleanup of dozens of dab pages! Azylber (talk) 11:56, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

IPA in Japanese

I just reverted your edit, because I couldn't really understand it. But I made 'katakana' a wikilink, which should help -- "katakana gloss" is I think better than just "gloss"; though I'm welcome to corrections that 'gloss' isn't quite the right word for an indication of pronunciation, for example. I also don't see what Japanese characters would be needed: the IPA characters *are* the characters being used in Japanese! Brian Chandler Imaginatorium (talk) 19:30, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Sorry! The misunderstanding was entirely mine: I thought the 'japanese' template meant 'lang=ja'. Imaginatorium (talk) 19:38, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

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ŋ and ɱ

Hello ReconditeRodent. I've seen that you've edited Help:IPA/Italian in the past, so I thought you could help me to understand a thing. Note 5 says: "the n in /nɡ/~/nk/ is a velar [ŋ], and the one in /nf/~/nv/ is the labiodental [ɱ]". I was wondering why in the symbol list does appear ŋ but ɱ doesn't, but I've read in the same note: "but for simplicity, ⟨m⟩ is used here". Why such a distinguo is made here? In Italian a nasal always assimilates to the following consonant, so ŋ can be found just before k and g while ɱ can be found just before f and v. If it's for simplicity, then also ŋ should be transcribed as n (since, unlike in other languages, in Italian this sound can't be found elsewhere). But this makes the transcription less accurate. Then, why doesn't ɱ have its own place in the list? It's weird to me such a different treatment... Could you enlighten me about this issue, please? Versazionecon (talk) 09:39, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

@Versazionecon: There was a long discussion at Help talk:IPA/Italian/Archive 1#Assimilated [m] that touched on this but it looks like that took place after the move from ɱ to m was already made, and is mostly debating n vs m. Short answer is probably just that ɱ falls under the arbitrary line of how narrow we think it's useful to make our transcriptions. It's only a separate phoneme in one recorded language, while ŋ is often one. You could ask on Help talk:IPA if you want a more detailed explanation or to suggest changing it. ─ ReconditeRodent « talk · contribs » 11:39, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks for cleaning up that bit about Piaget in Internal monologue. Biogeographist (talk) 22:09, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

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Been busy with other things but thanks for your third opinion. Although I would prefer to simply restore the review, I instead took your suggestion and added the review from the Independent and again shortened the IGN quote. -- 109.78.219.98 (talk) 16:33, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding. It's always tricky to decide and really your opinion is as good as mine. ─ ReconditeRodent « talk · contribs » 02:09, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Sebastian accepted the extra review but rejected the shortening of the IGN quote. I've asked him to shorten it himself. If he doesn't I'd appreciate if you shortened it.

There's plenty of room for several more reviews positive and negative, but editors can always selectively quote a positive review to say bad things or a negative review to say good things. At the moment the reviews give a broad overview but the article is still far from the standards of the best articles which use the reviews to further analyze the details such as acting, direction, cinematography.

Coincidentally there is a discussion asking if a review is listed on Rotten Tomatoes is that good enough: Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Film#Is_RottenTomatoes_a_good_indicator_of_reliable_review_sites? -- 109.76.225.99 (talk) 13:58, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Reading your earlier comments again I notice in particular your comment about the Manic Pixie Dream Girl. Perhaps you'd like to add to the article of that name as a Counterexample? -- 109.79.78.174 (talk) 16:03, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

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Could you please respond at WP:DRN? Thanks, --MrClog (talk) 17:35, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

@MrClog: I'm really sorry, I'm just so exhausted with the whole thing and even though I know it looks like we're nearly done it's looked like that a lot and honestly I don't feel confident enough that it's going to go anywhere. It's not my fight and I've been fighting it for ages and there are better ways to spend the energy. I'm sorry if this is disappointing result but is there any way I can just withdraw? I'll unfollow the page and forget about it and if someone wants to pick up the torch later they can note my dissatisfaction. ─ ReconditeRodent « talk · contribs » 17:59, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

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To be honest, my thanking you for that closure was both for the kind attention you gave to my arguments, and because I knew that the close was almost certain to get challenged and overturned. In the future, I'd suggest avoiding closing any discussions that would make significant changes to guidelines or policies until you have a lot more experience...I try to stay away from closing those discussions too. But in the meantime, treat yourself to something sweet! Closing that discussion as anything other than "no consensus" would be jumping on a grenade even for an admin. signed, Rosguill talk 17:42, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

@Rosguill: Awww thanks! I really appreciate it. And yeah, I probably should've chosen something a little simpler for my first try. ─ ReconditeRodent « talk · contribs » 19:39, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

I came to leave a similar message. Thanks for taking the time to take on what would be a difficult close for anyone. :) — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 20:28, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

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Ah, okay, done. ─ ReconditeRodent « talk · contribs » 17:32, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

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I noticed you systematically removing NY Post articles as sources. The NY Post is not a WP:DEPS, nor does it meet any of the other categories of unreliable sources in WP:RS. Please stop removing content solely on the basis of its being published by the Post.

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@Wallnot: WP:NYPOST is agreed to be an unreliable source. However, I'm not removing references arbitrarily – the majority of cases I've reviewed I've left as they are, like when the supported information is relatively uncontroversial or likely to be WP:DUE regardless. That said, when content is already verifiable in two or three other cited sources, I don't see a need to keep a generally unreliable source on Wikipedia just for the sake of it. ─ ReconditeRodent « talk · contribs » 23:02, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

”Agreed”—where and by whom? Wallnot (talk) 23:05, 15 September 2021 (UTC) Wallnot (talk) 23:05, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. If you click WP:NYPOST it should send you to its entry on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources which contains a table summarising the current consensus on several frequently discussed sources, with links to the original discussions/RfCs. ─ ReconditeRodent « talk · contribs » 23:12, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Got it. Sorry about that. Wallnot (talk) 01:37, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

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When you merged the content from the Valentine's Day in Iran article into the main article it left Valentine’s Day in bold. How do you get rid of that? Caryn Jones17 (talk) 19:23, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

I added the same section back and added sources. Caryn Jones17 (talk) 19:33, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

That works too. ─ ReconditeRodent « talk · contribs » 19:48, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

@Caryn Jones17: Yeah that bothered me too. You could transclude it with Template:Excerpt instead only then there's a bar at the side (which you're supposed to be able to get rid of with "|indicator=no" or maybe one of the other parameters but it wasn't working for me for some reason). Alternatively you could just take out the link to Valentine's Day in the main Valentine's Day in Iran article and probably no one would care. Or you could merge the whole thing (minus the intro) into the top-level article since I'm not completely convinced it needs its own page. ─ ReconditeRodent « talk · contribs » 19:43, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

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Edelman Family Foundation

Hi @ReconditeRodent

I am reaching out to you because of your previous participation in one of the discussions regarding the reliability and neutrality of HuffPost/Pink News/ProPublica as sources used on Wikipedia.

Currently, there is an ongoing issue with the Edelman Family Foundation section in the Joseph Edelman Wikipedia article. The section appears to be biased and lacks a balanced representation of the foundation's activities, as it primarily focuses on a single controversial donation while neglecting to mention the organization's numerous other significant contributions to various causes.

I would like to invite you to participate in the discussion on the BLP Noticeboard to address the concerns surrounding the section's neutrality and explore ways to improve its content. Llama Tierna (talk) 18:17, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

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All Things at Once

Hi! I saw that All Things at Once had been redirected to the author's page.

Wikipedia:NBOOKS states that a book is presumed notable if "The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself." In other words, so long as there are at least two book reviews analyzing the book from an independent source, the book should be presumed notable.

From the revision here, I would not use Momlogic nor NY Post, and I am not sure about Washington Times, but I would use The New York Times, The News-Times, Kirkus Reviews, and Publishers Weekly.

What I could do is do a clean slate and start writing the article from scratch. How does this sound? WhisperToMe (talk) 17:03, 25 September 2024 (UTC)