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David Icke

Just thought I'd address your point and (reverted) edit on the Icke page. I've listened to and read a fair bit of Icke's oeuvre, as much out of morbid curiosity as anything. What I have seen is explicitly not antisemitism, but rather virulent, clearly delineated anti-Zionism, his definition of Zionism being a specific economic and political system and philosophy that results in state-sponsored genocide and centralized corporate and economic control; religion is only its sometimes tool for control, and that religion is not specific (any can be and are used - see Christian fundamentalists and their politicians joining expansionist Zionists on most fronts, the former hoping to bring on Armageddon, the latter to wipe out the Arab minority in Israels borders). For Icke, Zionism's mechanisms are various hallucinatory, hypnotic state, military, and corporate entities run by a ruling global elite. This elite is actually extra-terrestrial, or puppeteered by extra-terrestrial, inter-dimensional malevolent reptoids. Icke has explicitly stated ad nauseum that most people, including most Jews, are fine people trying to find their way and peaceably survive this global "occupation". Some people, including some Jews and including members of all faiths, races, countries and tribes, are subject to or participating in this conspiracy, which includes this symptom/mechanism called "Zionism". I don't necessarily buy it, but his attitude is not opaque. And it is not antisemitic; millions of Jews are also actively anti-Zionist. It might be crazy, and he might have something to offer.Tao2911 (talk) 16:15, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Overdue response, I never said all Anti-Zionism is Anti-Jewish. I know that Trotsky for example was a Jew who opposed Zionism. But David Icke also writes against Anti-Zionist Jews, for example the Rockefellers and Rothschilds are Anti-Zionist but also racially Jewish (I use the term race for convenience to distinguish non-religious Jews from followers of the religion of Judaism, I know race is only a social construct). The vast majority of his theories seem to be fixated on attacking Jewry, although he also attacks other groups. RandomScholar30 (talk) 03:26, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Ford mentioned in the First Edition of Mein Kampf?

Did you say that Henry Ford was mentioned in the first edition of Mein Kampf but not in subsequent editions? I remember reading that, but I can't find it now. See my comments on this in Talk:Henry Ford#Ford mentioned in the First Edition of Mein Kampf? I got and skimmed the two books you mentioned that cited Himmler mentioning Ford, but I don't see myself finding time to do much more on this. Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. DavidMCEddy (talk) 02:52, 13 June 2016 (UTC)