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Wiki article on Molecular symmetry

Sorry, but this is Phil Bunker letting off steam about Wiki to you again! There is a 'box' at the beginning of this Wiki that begins with the unbelievable quote 'A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. I presume that the writer of this box takes me as this 'major contributor.' Does that mean that if you know a subject you will have a conflict of interest if you write about it? I believe that I really know this subject but I guess I should not put stuff into this wiki page. I was thinking about trying to completely rewrite this Wiki but clearly since I would not be able to avoid referring to some of my own work it would all be removed as a conflict of interest. Can you please do whatever is necessary to get this 'box' removed? 2607:FEA8:BD80:80:9ECA:7916:8D1B:2F24 (talk) 15:17, 15 September 2024 (UTC) P.S. I am worried that somebody will remove, in the Molecular symmetry Wiki, the section'Molecular rotation and molecular nonrigidity' that I wrote and which I believe is very important for a full understanding of molecular symmetry. I was annoyed that smokefoot removed my carefully written paragraph about the spectroscopic discovery of the methylene radical by Herzberg and Shoosmith in the wiki for methylene, but I guess the Wiki reading community will have to suffer in ignorance of the discovery of methylene. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bunkerpr (talk • contribs) 18:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry - of course, you're very frustrated, and I understand that.

What Wikipedia editors look for is for folks to write about subjects that they are experts in, using sources that they themselves did not write. When folks are perceived to have a conflict of interest on a particular subject, they are expected to declare that they have at least the potential for a COI on their own page, and not do any editing themselves on that subject, but instead put edit requests on article talk pages and leave the writing to others. Those would be good steps for you to take, I think.

I would personally think that the box is overkill if it only applies to one section of the article, and I could look at whether I can move the notification to the section in question. At that point, probably the only way to get the box removed wold be for someone else to rewrite that section of the article, using a variety of sources inztead of/ in addition to the ones to your own work. I wish I could be more helpful but this is all I can see to do. Qflib (talk) 19:48, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

A pity that so much has now been changed. It is detrimental to the full description of the subject. Hopefully students will find out from their profs which books to read about this! It is specially a pity that the pdf file at the end of the article has been removed. I guess if Mossbauer wrote a Wiki on the Mossbauer effect it would be removed as a COI! Bunkerpr (talk) 14:26, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

It definitely would, if he extensively cited his own work. But if he wrote about the topic while not citing his own papers and left those citations to others to make, and declared his COI on his Talk page, that would be considered legit. Qflib (talk) 17:51, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

I have clarified the discussion of the resonance raman spectrum of ethylene. I know it will get removed but what else can I do. I feel that this section has been spoilt. And I certainly would prefer to read Mossbauer than some interpretation of his work. Have a nice day, Phil

PS It would be nice if somebody could add a reference to the book by Per Jensen and me in this wiki! 2607:FEA8:BD80:80:9ECA:7916:8D1B:2F24 (talk) 13:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

I have added a reference to the article by M Schnell with whom I have no COI. I hope no blighter removes it. It is surely of importance to add clarifying matter to wiki articles rather than to remove such matter. Bunkerpr (talk) 16:33, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

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Questions to you on the perfect gas talk page

Hello. I don't know it is ok to write here. Please delete my message if it is not ok.

I just wanted to bring to your attention that I have replied to one of your comments on the talk page of the perfect gas article with a few questions.

I have replied using @Qflib, but since I am not sure that it actually alerts you, I thought I might write to you here as well to make sure that you get the information and have the chance to look at the questions.

Thank you. 2A01:E0A:179:4500:B9E3:4442:1AD5:F6D3 (talk) 12:47, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Definitely okay to write to me here - actually this is a better place to ask me questions directly than on the article talk page, which really should be dedicated to conversations about specific ways to make the article better. But it's all good. Qflib (talk) 20:07, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Perfect. Thank you very much for your replies, both here and on the talk page. 2A01:E0A:179:4500:B9E3:4442:1AD5:F6D3 (talk) 17:21, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

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Hello again.

As I continued to read and reflect on those issues, new questions came to me, and I was wondering if you could answer them (and maybe they could inspire complementing points to the article?):

• Regarding the dependence of C_p and C_V on the temperature in the case of the ideal gas, you wrote that "temperature dependence is well known to arise from intramolecular forces causing highly quantized molecular vibrations which may or may not be thermally accessible at a given T". Shall it be understood that the temperature dependence comes not merely from the existence of internal degrees of freedom in a molecule but from the fact that the "number" (or "amount") of degrees of freedom varies with temperature? In other words, a gas of "classical" multi-atomic molecular entities would not give temperature-dependent C_p or C_V because its "number" (or "amount") of degrees of freedom would always stay identical, whatever the temperature?

• Incidentally, if the internal structures of the molecules which compose the gas affect the temperature dependence of C_p or C_V in the case of an ideal (or semi-perfect) gas, does it imply that C_p and C_V should also then be considered in general dependent not only on p or T, but also on the composition of the gas (which would not be the cas for a perfect gas)?

Thank you for your insight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.165.229.20 (talk) 14:29, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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