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Your reverts
editHi Pmand,
please stop for a moment.
~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:13, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- @ToBeFree: Hi, I did not restore your edit?I apologize if I did that.--Pmand
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13:14, 23 December 2020 (UTC) - Thanks. Pmand, I have concerns about your rapid reverts:
- Per WP:ROLLBACKUSE, you need to provide a proper edit summary unless you revert obvious vandalism – and most of your reverts don't seem to be about obvious vandalism. Vandalism is intentional damage to the encyclopedia, and obvious vandalism is relatively rare. In most of the cases, you're reverting users who have been editing in good faith (see WP:AGF). These users need an explanation in the edit summary whenever you revert them. See Wikipedia_talk:Huggle/Config.yaml for a list of example edit summaries for the most common problems. Or write your own, but please explain what you do. Don't just revert.
- Please talk to the user after reverting their edits. Open their user talk page and add a message; see WP:UW and Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace for details.
- Please do not rely on automated classification of edits. I guess you may be using the "recent changes" special page, and its automated filters for unconstructive edits. That's generally a good idea, but you must not blindly revert edits based on such filtering. See WP:MEATBOT for a relevant policy.
- Thanks! Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:20, 23 December 2020 (UTC)- @ToBeFree: Most of my restorations are related to IPs and most of them have been sabotage. If I have made a mistake, I apologize and try to make other such mistakes.--Pmand
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13:22, 23 December 2020 (UTC)- The reverts are probably fine (but please don't treat IPs differently than any other user!). They just need a policy- or guideline-based explanation. A simple edit summary such as "not neutral" or "original research" can be very helpful. I didn't yet see any severe mistake, just the concerns mentioned above. No worries. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:25, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- ToBeFreeThank you very much for your help, I will definitely correct my mistakes.--Pmand
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14:42, 23 December 2020 (UTC)- Sorry, but I'll have to re-open the discussion again... you're still not talking to the users after reverting their edits, and you're still not providing edit summaries. Could you please actually have a look at the three bullet points above and ask if anything is unclear about them? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:03, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- ToBeFreeThank you very much for your help, I will definitely correct my mistakes.--Pmand
- The reverts are probably fine (but please don't treat IPs differently than any other user!). They just need a policy- or guideline-based explanation. A simple edit summary such as "not neutral" or "original research" can be very helpful. I didn't yet see any severe mistake, just the concerns mentioned above. No worries. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:25, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- @ToBeFree: Most of my restorations are related to IPs and most of them have been sabotage. If I have made a mistake, I apologize and try to make other such mistakes.--Pmand
- ToBeFreeSorry I did not understand what you mean can be a little easier to tell me to know exactly what you mean؟؟.--Pmand
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18:15, 23 December 2020 (UTC)- Okay, no problem.
- When you have clicked "undo", before you click the blue "Publish changes" button, there's a text field labelled "Edit summary (Briefly describe your changes)". This is mandatory for almost all edits. Please use the text field to describe why you are undoing the changes. Wikipedia has policies like WP:NPOV, WP:NOR and WP:V. If you undo someone's edits, please add a link to the policy that justifies your action. If there is no such reason, then don't undo others' contributions.
- When you have clicked "Publish changes" after an undo, please click "View history" at the top of the page. There is a list of edits. Your edit is at the top. The reverted edit is one line below yours. Click the "talk" link next to the reverted user's username or IP address. The user's talk page will open. On that page, please click "New section". Then explain why you have reverted the edit. You can use a template from the following page to do so: Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace.
- The third bullet point depends on how you find edits. Do you use the page "Recent changes"? If you use "Recent changes", please open that page, then copy the URL from the address bar of your browser. Paste it here please, so we can have a look at the settings. We can then explain possible issues with these settings.
- Please do ask if something remains unclear. Please ask a specific question about what is unclear, and I'll take the time to answer it. If something is still unclear, please do not revert others' edits before the misunderstanding is resolved.
- Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:30, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, no problem.
Restoring unsourced material
editPlease do not add or change content without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. OhNoitsJamie Talk 17:43, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Ohnoitsjamie: Hi, I did not add anything to the article. Which article do you mean?Please tell me the name of the article so that I can correct my mistake.--Pmand
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17:47, 23 December 2020 (UTC)- Likely Special:Diff/995936183. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:02, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Ohnoitsjamie:@ToBeFree: Ok, I understand, I apologize to you for this mistake.--Pmand
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18:04, 23 December 2020 (UTC)- @Ohnoitsjamie:@ToBeFree: As a newcomer, I am still unfamiliar with many of the rules. I apologize to you for my mistakes.--Pmand
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18:07, 23 December 2020 (UTC)- That's not a problem, Pmand; everyone was new once, and we do encourage everyone to be bold. However, by reverting others' edits en masse, you're doing content review. To review others' contributions, you need experience; please take your time to gain it slowly. You're currently doing too much too fast. This makes it very hard to provide feedback, as you have already stepped into new trouble before someone could explain the situation. To make matters worse, as described in the section above, when you received feedback, the section was closed without any change in behavior. Being new is fine, being unfamiliar with the rules is also fine. Learning to drive by entering a car and speeding to the next highway is problematic, however. You'll be able to drive on the highway, but not today.~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:17, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- @ToBeFree: Thank you for this good advice. I need to learn what I need to do to learn in principle. Thank you for helping me to do my job properly. Finally, you have more experience than me and you can teach me like a teacher.--Pmand
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18:21, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- @ToBeFree: Thank you for this good advice. I need to learn what I need to do to learn in principle. Thank you for helping me to do my job properly. Finally, you have more experience than me and you can teach me like a teacher.--Pmand
- That's not a problem, Pmand; everyone was new once, and we do encourage everyone to be bold. However, by reverting others' edits en masse, you're doing content review. To review others' contributions, you need experience; please take your time to gain it slowly. You're currently doing too much too fast. This makes it very hard to provide feedback, as you have already stepped into new trouble before someone could explain the situation. To make matters worse, as described in the section above, when you received feedback, the section was closed without any change in behavior. Being new is fine, being unfamiliar with the rules is also fine. Learning to drive by entering a car and speeding to the next highway is problematic, however. You'll be able to drive on the highway, but not today.~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:17, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Ohnoitsjamie:@ToBeFree: As a newcomer, I am still unfamiliar with many of the rules. I apologize to you for my mistakes.--Pmand
- @Ohnoitsjamie:@ToBeFree: Ok, I understand, I apologize to you for this mistake.--Pmand
- @ToBeFree: If there is a tutorial in this regard, please leave it for me on the discussion page so that I can learn from them to edit it correctly on Wikipedia.--Pmand
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18:22, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Likely Special:Diff/995936183. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:02, 23 December 2020 (UTC)