Piero Montesacro
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Kosovo Ethymology
editThat's it mostly, but it is more or less already written at Names of Kosovo and Kosovo (disambiguation). Also note that you should better link to Kosovo Field and not to Kosovo Polje. Nikola (talk) 00:32, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Zadar
edit"... it was provisionally changed to Zadar/Zara from 1910 to 1920 and finally only Zadar in 1945." and "was provisionally changed to Zadar/Zara from 1910 to 1920; from 1920 to 1947 the city became part of Italy as Zara, and finally was named Zadar later on." have completely the same meaning. Do you people have problem in understanding or we have another wave of zealots who wants to glorify fascist occupations etc... I have no problem with your version anyway, but try to avoid ettiquettes like "vandalism", used for nothing. Your comments were not in good faith!
About the other change read WP:NCGN - if there is separate "Name" section in the article, then we don't edit 'other names' in the lead. Zenanarh (talk) 07:31, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
- then arguably you seem to have problems in understanding, as the first sentence is factually inaccurate and entirely lacking any reference to the Italian name and the Italian government as such - of course it's not inaccurate - if there was sunshine every day in a week except on Tuesday, then it's logical to conclude then there was no sunshine on Tuesday. Is this hard to understand? Older text was concipated that way. And BTW "Name" section is not about governments, it's about names! And Zara was Venetian origin name, not Italian! Get it? Your ettiquette came first, mine was reply to yours. If there was no bad faith attitude from your side from the beginning, there would be no similar attitude from mine. ;-) Zenanarh (talk) 11:11, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
- You disagree about my evalution on what is "equivalent"...? OK, if under Austria name was Zara, if it was provisionally Zara/Zadar from 1910 to 1920 and only Zadar after 1947, isn't it obvious that in the meantime ('20-'47) it was only Zara? But, as I've said, I have no problem with your version anyway. It's completely the same. Isn't Italian standardized on Tuscan dialect? Tuscan was Giadra, Giara; Venetian was Zara. Your 'vandalism' accusation was directed to me, not to some XY.
- Piero all this little argue is stupid. We don't need it. Ciao! (word of Venetian origin in the time when standardized Italian still didn't exist) Zenanarh (talk) 13:52, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
- OK, I'm sorry for ettiquetting. It was childish from my side, have my excuse. It was my Dalmatian temper. We had a lot of problems with some Italian users and Dalamtia related articles in the past, so... Don't worry, I didn't try to give you lectures on your mother language. It's always more complex than what 1 sentence can define, in any standardized or vernacular idiom, so I don't imagine anything. I'm not a linguist, but I know something and I understand these things. In my mother language it's all the same. Peace. Ćao :) Zenanarh (talk) 08:38, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Trnovo battle
editSorry I haven't replied earlier, I've been absent... I'm not interested in WWII and newer history, so I'm not the best help here. Why don't you try to wake up some Slovenian user? There should be some related source in Slovenian literature, for sure. Zenanarh (talk) 14:39, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Inform
editI inform you: read user talk:Jimbo Wales#Ex Yugoslavia case —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.206.126.34 (talk) 14:55, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Posso avere diritto di replica o fornire chiarimenti?
editCiao Piero, ti contatto qui in quanto non mi è possibile farlo, purtroppo, su it.wiki.
Ho assoluto bisogno di fornirti delle spiegazioni su quanto è stato segnalato sul mio conto da un utente che IMHO ha efficacemente, mio malgrado, manipolato i dati linkati. Credo questo sia un diritto tu mi possa riconoscere, ho tentato di contattarti via emaail, ma non mi risulta possibile. Vedi, dalla segnalazione al blocco sono passati pochi minuti e non mi è stato possibile intervenire.
Mi si è accusato di essere un troll, addirittura un troll internazionale, un sockpuppet di un'altra utenza, ne sono state dette di tutti i colori. Ci sono utenti che mi stimano e collaborano con me da anni. Ho appena portato in vetrina una voce Rodi Garganico, sono attivo tutti i giorni su wp dando il mio massimo contributo, con onestà e dedizione. Ho sempre rispettato il consenso e sempre motivato ogni modifica nelle pagine di discussione, senza tirarmi indietro anche dai confronti più serrati. Ma il segnalante proprio non mi sopporta. E sono convinto che per il segnalante la procedura nei miei confronti sia strumentale. Se puoi indicami come contattarti.
Te ne sarò davvero grato, e tu non te ne pentirai ascoltando le mie ragioni, credo che sarà un atto di giustizia. Sinceramente, --Theirrulez (talk) 20:40, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Per farti capire quanto tutti fossero fuori strada leggiti cosa scrivo ad Harlock81 per renderti conto della mia posizione. Avevo solo fame di confronto sereno su posizioni che anche nella società comune trovano opinioni diverse figuriamoci su WP. Ciao di nuovo, in tua attesa,--Theirrulez (talk) 20:55, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Ti ho anche scritto una email, la tua risposta vale anche per quella? Poiché se per me è chiaro il fatto che la segnalazione sia stata fatta con spirito repressorio e vendicativo, da come è stata abilmete argomentato non sono sicuro lo sia per te o per altri.
In ogni caso guarda cosa continuano a scrivere sulla segnalazione, dal momento che non è stata chiusa: cercano di bandirmi.
Aggiungo ancora una cosa, ti confesso che ne adesso ne quando finirà il blocco avrò il minimo interesse ad intervenire su una controversia, quella su Luxuria, che mi vede messo all'indice, mi dedicherò come ho sempre fatto a pagine di geografia e storia, dove trovo persone con indole di sicuro meno intollerante.
Ti chiedo infine se essendo una segnalazione non chiusa, può accogliere anche il mio intervento, o gli elementi che tu hai raccolto, oppure rimanere un tiro al bersaglio dal quale io non posso esimermi o difendermi, ma sperare che chi mi sta lapidando si stanchi oramai soddisfatto.
Ti ringrazio comunque per aver risposto stamane, buon lavoro.--Theirrulez (talk) 14:03, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
A propoposito
editHo visto che hai avuto problemi con un utente qui su e.wiki, User:DIREKTOR, mi sembra una storia già vista, e io, come sai, ho già fatto le spese nel cimentarmi in contraddittori che vedono l'interlocutore blindare il consenso attraverso il supporto di pochi utenti, ma tralasciando ciò che è successo a me, mi sembra assurdo quello che ha fatto Direktor:
Ho doviziosamente tradotto una pagina dall'italiano all'inglese House of Cerva, non con poca fatica, ma con molta soddisfazione, dedicandomi qui a quello che mi è purtroppo precluso su it.wiki, e intraprendendo un'argomento che mi è parecchio familiare. Bè il risultato sai qual'è stato? Mi ha accusato, come ha fatto con te, con Crisarco, con tutti di essere n sockpuppet di non sso chi, e dopo aver cancellato la pagina, l'ha riscritta, EPURATA DI OGNI RIFERIMENTO ITALIANO O ROMANZO, sotto il titolo House of Crijevic. Ripetendo la stessa forzatura già applicata alla Casata dei Sorgo, dei Gondola ecc.
Per la pagina inglese di Giacomo Micaglia, invece, chiaramente spostata sul nome croato, con i diacritici croati, ecc. ha anche cancellato i riferimenti che avevo messo e la foto che avevo caricato di Peschici, sua città natale.
Ci sono decine di utenti che ahnno avuto gli stessi problemi con lui. Mi sembra una pazzesca deriva politica, credi debba segnalarne il comportamento? --Theirrulez (talk) 20:12, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
- Well, this is certainly interesting. Wiki policy like WP:CANVASSING, WP:CLIQUE, etc. etc. does not seem to mean much to Theirrulez. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 12:41, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
- This is MY talk, not a forum, DIREKTOR. I do not need to be informed about policies like WP:CANVASSING and WP:CLIQUE, etc. which I know myself. If you feel that you have to write something to another user, then please use her or his talk page. Thanks. Anyway, now that you have made me curious, I've checked and, indeed, there actually seems that something is wrong with Giacomo Micaglia, at least: I'll feel free to edit the article when and how I deem it appropriate, according to Wikipedia policies about NPOV and accuracy and nothing else, of course. --Piero Montesacro (talk) 18:13, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Battaglia di Bardia
editHi Piero! You may remember me from Albert Kesselring. I've currently got a page called Battle of Bardia which is up for FAC. Are there any good Italian sources on this battle? (Especially ones in English translation?) Hawkeye7 (talk) 05:23, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
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