Your submission at Articles for creation: Chris Fussell (US Navy SEAL) (August 22)

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Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by DGG was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: No indication at all that he is notable according to our guidelines
DGG ( talk ) 10:31, 22 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
 
Hello, PennyLS61917! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DGG ( talk ) 10:31, 22 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

August 2018

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Thank you. Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:18, 22 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

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Hello. It appears that your contributions - so far - have been exclusively to clients of the company you work for. While you have provided the required disclosure of your employment, I advise that you review this section: Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure#How to disclose, in particular where it recommends:

The conflict of interest guideline further advises editors to place the {{connected contributor (paid)}} template at the top of the talk page accompanying any paid contributions (and to fill in the parameters), and to supply a clearly visible list of their paid contributions on their main user page. The template {{paid}} can be used for this.
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Drm310 If it matters, or to be clear, I do not receive any paid contributions or financial incentive or bonus (nor a single penny) to update pages. It is not a conflict of interest as I am simply updating some pages with facts and citations that are found all over the internet, unrelated to the company I work for. I am just learning and thought I'd start on people I know. PennyLS61917 (talk) 15:58, 22 August 2018 (UTC)PennyLS61917Reply
Just to clarify again, are you saying that you are updating these pages purely out of personal interest and not as part of your job with Leading Authorities? You will appreciate that it is difficult, if nearly impossible, to tell if a person is making edits "off the clock". --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:21, 22 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
That is correct. I was just too honest and too new to Wiki to understand how it works. I appreciate your insight and as I just want experience and knowledge of how to use wiki, and being unrelated, I'll just remove the affiliation. I'll also work on others outside the org :) PennyLS61917 (talk) 17:26, 22 August 2018 (UTC)PennyLS61917Reply

If you are editing articles about clients of the company you work for you need to disclose that per WP:COI. Please provide a list of all articles you have editing that fill the above criteria. Additionally you should not use references from the company you work for without explicit approval. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:00, 23 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

@PennyLS61917: I'm trying to assume good faith, but honestly you're not making it easy for us. Since our exchange above, you have:
  1. Removed the disclosure [1] from your userpage
  2. Added content to an article of yet another person who is a client of your company [2]
  3. Cited your company's website as a source for your addition, which in itself is bad, but is made worse because ...
  4. ... is also closely paraphrases the original copyrighted text.
Your words indicated that you wanted to avoid any trouble with WP:PAID, but your actions have steered you straight toward it. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 04:48, 23 August 2018 (UTC)Reply


@Drm310): I am not paid to edit, I do not receive anything from it, so I removed the notice but clearly that was the wrong choice. So to ensure all transparency, I will add the disclaimer The template {{paid}} to the top of my articles that I edit to avoid any confusion. Anything else I can do to make this right? I'll be more careful about attribution and paraphrasing PennyLS61917 (talk) 13:53, 23 August 2018 (UTC)PennyLS61917Reply
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  Hello PennyLS61917, and welcome to Wikipedia. All or some of your addition(s) to Dakota Meyer have been removed, as they appear to have added copyrighted material without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues here.

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Your draft article, Draft:Chris Fussell (US Navy SEAL)

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Hello, PennyLS61917. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Chris Fussell".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Legacypac (talk) 08:52, 23 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Your draft article, Draft:Ken Schmidt

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Hello, PennyLS61917. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Ken Schmidt".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:38, 7 June 2019 (UTC)Reply