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Assyrian people

Hi, you moved the article some time age to the current name, though no correct poll had been made and no actual consensus had been reached. After the move, there was a new discussion and poll, where there was a real consensus between all parties, regarding to move the article to a compromised title, as can be seen at the talkpage; Talk:Assyrian_people#properly_formatted_opinion_poll_on_article_title. I'm coming to you with this, since you were the one who made the hasty move to the current misleading title. Greets, The TriZ (talk) 15:35, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I see no such consensus. There was a discussion between Iraqi, Malik Danno, and yourself that produced no fruitful agreement, and a discussion between Yannismarou and dab that wasn't directly related to the article title, and likewise unproductive. Most of the editors who took part in the move request were not involved with this discussion, so it cannot be said to represent much of anything. Furthermore, the request that I closed was filed and closed in accordance with the procedure at WP:RM. There certainly was a poll (which lasted for a week, when the standard length of requests was 5 days), the vast majority of the participants of said poll supported the move. I have stated repeatedly in relation to this that consensus =! unanimity. Lastly, I have no shred of interest in what the title of the article is, I came to the page because there was the request at WP:RM, nothing more. I have no intention of becoming involved any further with the article, and I have no obligation to do anything in regards to the title. Regards, Parsecboy (talk) 02:45, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Please read the discussion between Dab and Yannismarou, the first poll that resulted in you moving the article was misleading and wrongly formatted, the second poll and discussion showed that there was no consensus of moving the article and therefore the article should not have been moved. The TriZ (talk) 13:52, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

You're missing the point; asking dad after mom told you that you can't go to your friend's house doesn't work. Only a handful of people took part in the second poll, and the majority of those who participated in the first poll were not informed of the second. If anything, it has less of a claim to legitimacy than the first, since outside parties were not included in the second. Parsecboy (talk) 14:58, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I believe you are wrong here. The first poll mainly consisted of partisan users, just check the user pages. And surely outside parties were included in the second, as you can see, both parties voted for a comprimised title (myself, Gabr-el and Benne) and the outside party including Dab. Also as you can see, other users involved in the discussion, didn't vote for the current title. The TriZ (talk) 16:48, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Dab is not an outside party; he's been involved with the article for quite some time. So have Benne and Gabr-el. And most of those who took part in the discussion didn't explicitly vote, though their opinions were generally contrary to the "compromise title." Parsecboy (talk) 03:13, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK for German aircraft carrier I (1942)

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Royalbroil 23:28, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Amazing Race Wikipedia

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Ready to own the Amazing Race? ;) Also, congrats on the Moltke class FA! —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 03:05, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Yup. I'm glad it doesn't start until 1 July, 'cause things are pretty hectic with the wedding this weekend. And then there's the honeymoon where I'll have zero access to the internet. But once July rolls around, I'll be ready to go :) Oh, and thanks for all your help with the Moltke class, I appreciate your reviews! Parsecboy (talk) 03:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I'm glad too :) Have yourself an amazing time at the wedding and during the honeymoon! Buuuut if you make an edit that I catch from this weekend to whenever the honeymoon ends, there will be severe consequences...

You are most welcome, although I didn't do that much... —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 03:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm really looking forward to it! The honeymoon is in Florida, and we're going to do this "swim with manatees" thing and an air boat ride through the Everglades. Should be pretty fun. Yeah, well, I'm not taking my laptop, so I don't know how I could make an edit :P

Hey, every extra set of eyes helps. And you cropped this up nicely, not to mention a number of copyedits and helping with those infernal OCLCs :D Parsecboy (talk) 12:04, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Dude, that sounds awesome! What's an "air boat ride" though? And leaving your laptop at home is probably a good idea :)

Okay, so I did a little, I guess... Haha OCLC's are easy, just time-consuming! —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 22:26, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Re:Nassu's

Those are featured, I grant, but not yet a featured topic. I have faith that they will be in time though :) TomStar81 (Talk) 14:12, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I suppose you've got me there :) Parsecboy (talk) 14:20, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Cheer up, the Nassu's will be there in time and then we can have ourselves a three sided battle to the death. Or an old fanshion duel between carriers and three FT battleship classes. TomStar81 (Talk) 15:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, we'll get there. My ultimate grandiose pipe-dream is to get a High Seas Fleet FT. I don't know if your Iowas or Cam's Yamatos could stand up to the entire German battlefleet :D Although by then I'm sure you'll have the SoDaks by then too. That would get ugly. Parsecboy (talk) 22:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

LOL. —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 22:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

What's so funny? The HSF FT? Or Tom's four Iowas taking on 19 BBs and 7 BCs (only counting the completed ships)? Parsecboy (talk) 22:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

The "it could get ugly" part...

A HSF FT would just be cool, not funny :) —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 22:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the only problem is that I'll largely be doing the work by myself. At least you and Tom have other editors involved with Operation Majestic Titan. Granted, it's significantly larger than the HSF, but as they say, many hands make lighter work. Or something like that :D Parsecboy (talk) 11:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

(out) - yeah, that's not the most fun. :/ At least you have the interest to do them, and think—every one furthers your knowledge of the HSF for your future dissertation! Goodness though...73 + class articles is a lot to think about. I'll just plug away at some I find interesting and hopefully it'll be enough when combined with everyone else's efforts. —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 01:32, 19 June 2009 (UTC) —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 01:32, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm glad I've been working on these articles for so long, because now that's all the easier my honors thesis will be. And by the time I get to my dissertation, maybe the HSF FT will be done! I joined Majestic Titan today; I don't think I'll be able to do any articles by myself (unless I go buy some more books, of course), but I can provide plenty of logistical support. Parsecboy (talk) 01:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

FYI, the "limited and full preview" search on Google Books is your friend :) Without it, I would never be able to complete individual ship articles like Minas Geraes. —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 02:09, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Operation Majestic Titan

Every little bit counts. Additionally, I'd be happy to extend you the same advisory role I offered ed, if you are interested in joining. TomStar81 (Talk) 19:19, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I'll join, and I can be an adviser; I'm definitely on frequently enough :) I was thinking I'd add my name to the SoDak work group. I'll be out of the loop basically until the first of July, but after that I'll be around. Parsecboy (talk) 22:32, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

FYI: I'm also planning on working on the SoDak class article, so I thought I'd let you know that I intend to work on that as well eventually. Usually, when I work on article, I move it into my sandbox for development, so if you want to work on the article with me we will need to figure out how to work together to improve the article.

Just drop me a line when you decide to start working on it; I can just help you work on it in your sandbox. I'll be out of the loop for the next week or so, so if you get to it before then, don't worry about starting without me. Parsecboy (talk) 19:46, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Siegfried class coast defense ship

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Mifter (talk) 20:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Odin class coast defense ship

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Death by Stereo

Is the old Death by Stereo gone for good,[1] or can it be recovered as Death By Stereo (American band) (or Death by Stereo (American band)? 199.125.109.99 (talk) 03:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

This appears to have already been fixed (I was away for a week, sorry I didn't get back to you earlier). If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Parsecboy (talk) 01:52, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

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Why hello there! It's been so long that I thought you might need the above. ;) Hope the honeymoon was awesome. Cheers dude, —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 21:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Lol, that's hilarious. I saw the "Hello, {{BASEPAGENAME}}..." and thought "what the?" Yeah, the honeymoon was great, we went to Disney down in Florida for 5 days, and then we went out to Titusville for some other stuff; we saw one of the shuttles on the launch pad at Kennedy, found a practically abandoned beach to hang out on, and an airboat ride in a small river. A pretty good time all around.

Speaking of me being gone for so long, how has Wikipedia kept running without my expert administration? :D Parsecboy (talk) 22:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Sure sounds like it was an amazing time! :) Did the thing with the manatees pan out?

It's been too easy; maybe you aren't as valuable as you thought hahaha :P By the way, you might find this interesting. —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 23:24, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Nah, it was raining on and off all morning, and that apparently freaks the manatees out, so we couldn't get close to them :( (who would have thought rain would bother something that was already completely wet?)

All I know is that my best man (and former roommate in the Army) told me I was irreplaceable (I guess his current roommates are kinda gross—one doesn't do much laundry and the other eats in a disgusting manner). I just assumed it was the same on here. I mean, who's going to write articles on the German Navy if I up and died?

That is an interesting article. I had no idea it was going on (which I guess was the idea, right?) Parsecboy (talk) 23:36, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and don't worry, even though I was on my honeymoon, I still did some work for Wikipedia: this is the only surviving example -> File:Me-208.jpg File:Me-208 2.jpg, File:Me-208 3.jpg. Oh, the dedication! :D Parsecboy (talk) 01:51, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

That's a little different!! You make a good point; I don't think anyone would. :-/

Yes, I do believe that was the point. :P

*Sigh* I'm guessing that your wife didn't know you were taking them for Wikipedia, huh? :) —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 02:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh no, she was very much aware that I was taking the pictures for Wikipedia. :D It was the only wiki-related thing I did all week though, so it was ok :) Parsecboy (talk) 11:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

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Hey, do you still want to do this or would you rather focus on writing normally? It really doesn't matter to me, and I know you have an ACR and FAC up from my watchlist; feel free to say you don't want to if that is how you feel :) —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 02:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm good to go. We get to choose the articles we write, right? I figure this will help us stay motivated with all of those BBs :) Parsecboy (talk) 11:21, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

OK then :) We have to write two DYK's together; SoDak will be one, what should the other be? —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 15:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Image

Hey dude, where did you find tihs image? —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 03:36, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

It's in Friedman's book. He said it was an official design proposal dated Aug. 37. Think I ought to put that on the image page? Parsecboy (talk) 11:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes you should haha! Also look at page 456 for more on where the original was from. —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 15:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

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Non-free image question

Hello! Here I am to annoy you again :) I need to know something about this image. It's non-free and its terms of use mention only the article about King Edward's Chair. However, the image would be very useful for the article about coronation (perhaps even as lead image). Is it alright to add the image to the article about coronation? Surtsicna (talk) 20:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi again :) Unfortunately, I don't think the image could be used in the coronation article. The problem lies in the "replaceable" qualification for the use of a "fair use" image. Since the article isn't about the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II but the general act of coronation, any other image of any act of coronation (of which there are a number in the public domain) would qualify to replace it. To be honest, I don't think it even qualifies for fair use in the article it's currently being used (for the same reason—there are two PD images of the chair already in the article). I think the only article for which it would possibly qualify as fair use is Coronation of Elizabeth II, which is not a current article. I hope that helps (though it's not the help you had hoped for, unfortunately). Parsecboy (talk) 22:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

You're right, it's not the answer I was hoping to get, but it's good to know anyway. Thanks! Surtsicna (talk) 22:35, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it's always a disappointment when you find out an image you wanted to use doesn't qualify. I've run into that several times while taking articles through FAC. Parsecboy (talk) 22:38, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Fyi

When you moved the commune to The Commune, you did it over a salt protection.--Tznkai (talk) 04:42, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Parsecboy's favorite talk page stalker here. :) That move was made by him in response to this request at WP:RM, which did state that it was salted. Looking at the previously deleted versions, I would agree that it probably shouldn't have been moved, but speedy deleted instead. However, I can't say for sure that I wouldn't have done the same thing.--Aervanath (talk) 05:54, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Ping, FYI

In response to this revert, you should see this conversation: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#Service_history_for_battleships -MBK₀₀₄ 02:01, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

That's actually the reason I reverted the header addition to Iowa. Thanks for pointing it out though :) Parsecboy (talk) 12:31, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

speedy deletion of Springside primary school

You just deleted this article as an A7, when the template clearly indicates that schools are exempt from this criteria. If you deleted it for some other reason, you should probably have noted that in the log as the tag that was on the page was clearly incorrect. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:54, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Oops, I missed that. I'll restore it now. Thanks for catching that. Parsecboy (talk) 18:55, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Usually when I run across such an article, I try to determine the parent school district and redirect it there, I was just starting to try and figure it out (the article didn't give much to go on) when it disappeared! thanks for restoring, I'll try to figure out a good redirect target. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:58, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Request for rollback Rights

Hello!!!

I am requesting for rollback Rights in order to fight vandalism with better strength. Please look at my previous contribution here, if you feel I am eligible enough to have this right then kindly grant me with rollbacker permission. I hope you will look into this as soon as possible.

Thanks

Hitro 13:02, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I'll be happy to look into granting you rollback, but I've got some real life business for the next couple of hours, so it'll have to wait until after that. Regards, Parsecboy (talk) 13:59, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

No Probs. I can wait!!! Hitro 15:14, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I've reviewed your contributions, and found no problems. You've been using Twinkle for some time now, so you are clearly familiar with using extra tools here. Rollback is pretty straightforward, but if you have questions, feel free to ask. Regards, Parsecboy (talk) 16:18, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a Lot!!!! Hitro 16:27, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Question about Cage Rattle page you deleted

I was curious as to why you deleted the Cage Rattle wiki that I was starting? You deleted it as advertising but there are wikis here for purevolume, allmusic, myspace, and other social networks/websites as well. Just curious as to how you all judge who gets cut and who gets to stay? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrmike110 (talk • contribs) 13:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

There were two major problems with the article you had created. The first was that it was written like an advertisement—"We have expanded our media to include exclusive backstage footage, tour diaries, live audio and video interviews, and personalized acoustic sets." is not encyclopedic in the least. Second, there was no indication why your website is more important than the hundreds of other social networking sites. More directly, there was nothing to indicate why the website meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines, specifically the guideline that governs websites. If you can rewrite the article to satisfy both of the requirements I mentioned above (encyclopedic tone/non-advertising and a demonstration of notability), then the article can most likely stay on Wikipedia. If you have more questions, feel free to ask me. Regards, Parsecboy (talk) 14:26, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for the info Parsecboy. I will look into the guidlines and post a better article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrmike110 (talk • contribs) 14:29, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for SMS Blücher

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DYK for South Dakota class battleship (1939)

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Re: Washington

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Colorado again

Hey Parsec, can you add cites to DANFS or Hore for the ship histories so a majority of the article is sourced for the DYK nom? :) I'm walking out the door right now, but I should be able to add more later tonight. Cheers dude, —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 13:35, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I can do that. I won't have time to do it for a couple of hours though; we're going to see the Harry Potter movie in a little bit, but after that I should be able to do it. Parsecboy (talk) 13:52, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

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		In recognition of your outstanding efforts on Helgoland class battleship and Kaiser class battleship. Well done. Orpy15 (talk) 22:54, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Hayani paintings

first these are not scans of the artist's work. these are pictures taken by the artist's consent . if there is any adress where such a proof could be shown then i do not have any problem showing that. plus in morocco rt work can be reused for reproduction. that is why you find them in many websites. if what you say is true , which in fact is not, than how do you think newspapers, auction sites...use the painting to advertise for artists, maybe in US it is true but in morocco it is not —Preceding unsigned comment added by Khatibimaroc (talk • contribs) 20:59, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

That it's a photo of the painting and not a scan is irrelevant; it's a reproduction of a copyrighted work. First, you claim that the images can be reproduced as long as it's for non-commercial use. The licenses under which Wikipedia is licensed, the GDFL and CC licenses explicitly allow commercial use. Therefore, the images can't be used anywhere in any Wikimedia project, be it Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons, or elsewhere. Parsecboy (talk) 21:23, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

User:Sea888

Hi, Sea888 (talk · contribs), who you blocked on 30 June for edit warring on the Fall of Saigon article has resumed their behavior: [2] (note also the edit summary). I've been involved in the discussion on this so I don't think that I count as an uninvolved admin - could you please look into this again? Thanks, Nick-D (talk) 00:03, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Nick. I warned him/her again, and s/he acknowledged it. If the edit-warring continues, let me know. Regards, Parsecboy (talk) 00:56, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that Nick-D (talk) 04:06, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Konig

Looks like we'll have three DYK's; I nommed Colorado last night... ;) —Ed (Talk • Say no to drama) 02:27, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for König class battleship

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— Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:56, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Congrats on your DYK for this great article!! — Kralizec! (talk) 04:27, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I wonder if Parsec can recite the movements and actions of the High Seas Fleet during WWI in his sleep yet ;) —Ed (Talk • Say no to drama) 19:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Kralizec! And yes, Ed, I can just about tell you the exact locations of pretty much every capital ship of the HSF during the war :P 21:26, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Ping

This new article should be of interest to you: Standard type battleship -MBK₀₀₄ 01:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, MBK. I'm sure Ed, Tom, you, and I can whip it into a proper FAC in no time :) Parsecboy (talk) 21:29, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Colorado class battleship

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Re:DYK comment

I was suprised to see you have never been a coordinator; have you ever thought about running for the position? I believe you would make a good coordinator if you were elected. Just something to keep in mind. TomStar81 (Talk • Some say ¥€$, I say NO) 13:48, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I thought about it briefly during the last election, but I wasn't really sure what coordinators do besides close peer and A-class reviews. I figured that I should know the position before I ever ran for it. I still don't really know what a coord does, the description is a bit vague :) Parsecboy (talk) 14:42, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

To be brutally honest, we usually do...nothing :) Its not so much by design as by happenstance; usually when the coordinators get involved its either to close reviews (as you stated) or to watch the children bicker on a talk page over whose doing what to whose edits, and then when both parties grow tired of verbally insulting each other we say to both parties "can we all just get along?" Its actually quite easy, the only hard work such as it exists is discussing matters related to the project on the coordinator talk page, as that can require some serious thought about the right course of action. TomStar81 (Talk • Some say ¥€$, I say NO) 16:30, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

More diesels

Parsecboy, great work on the Konig class article, but are you sure that Grosser Kurfurst and Markgraf were eventually equipped with diesels? Best regard, Orpy15 (talk) 20:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Groner's states, in reference to the MAN 6-cylinder, "this was fitted later, and only to Grosser Kurfurst and Markgraf. Do you have a source that states otherwise? It seems odd that Groner seemingly has confusion with the diesel engines. Parsecboy (talk) 20:19, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

My best source on that stuff is usually the Breyer book. I'll track it down and get back to you on that. Speaking of Groner, he has a habit of referring to boilers in these ships as "Marine-type" rather than Schulz-Thornycroft. "Marine-type" isn't wrong, but it seems a little less helpful that Schulz-Thornycroft. I'd sort of like to change that, but what's your take? Orpy15 (talk) 20:39, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

By all means, if you've got more specific information than a rather opaque sounding "Marine-type boiler", add it. Parsecboy (talk) 21:58, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, Breyer says "The 1911 plan envisaged first for all four ships, then only for Grosser Kurfurst and Markgraf, one MAN six-cylinder two-stroke diesel engine each producing 12 000 hp and producing a cruising speed of 12 knots; it did not prove possible to fit these engines." Preston is a little more direct. He says, that it was originally intended to equip the ships with a steam/diesel combination as in Prinzregent Luitpold, "but that fiasco forced designers to revert to conventional three-shaft steam machinery."

In the specifications section, does Groner actually give diesel related performance figures for Markgraf and Grosser Kurfurst? My recollection is he only did that for Prinzregent Luitpold and Sachsen. Best regards. Orpy15 (talk) 18:32, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

All it says for the diesel is "Its specification was: 12,000shp, 150rpm, 12kts (one 3-bladed screw, 4.8m diameter). I'd be willing to bet that Groner's records left off at the decision to fit only Markgraf and Grosser Kurfurst with the diesels, and that anything further was lost, perhaps during WWII. Go ahead and fix the article :) Parsecboy (talk) 18:37, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Roger that. Orpy15 (talk) 18:59, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

WP: Forum

Hi, do remember you guided me with regard to [WP:FORUM] on the Peter Hitchens talk page ? Following your guidance I've deleted another section and am now involved in an edit war. I've requested editor assistance but thought I'd pop by and ask your opinion as an experienced editor. Can you find time to have a look ? Grateful if you could, many thanks. Mimi ^(yack) 14:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Mimi, and yes, I remember that. The best way to go in this situation is to just block the IPs adding the posts, since they don't seem to be trying to legitimately discuss anything. I blocked the second IP that was edit-warring on the talk page, and the first was blocked by another admin. Let me know if the user returns under a different IP, and I can block that as well. Regards, Parsecboy (talk) 15:52, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Something for you

		The Military history A-Class medal
		For excellent work on Helgoland class battleship, Kaiser class battleship and SMS Blücher, all promoted to A-Class between May and July 2009. Well done!  Roger Davies talk 17:08, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Something else for you

		The WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves
		By order of the coordinators of the Military history WikiProject, you are hereby awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in recognition of your outstanding work in bringing almost all of the WWI-era German battleships up to GA, A, or FA class. Your single-minded determination in this field has helped immeasurably with the project's WWI Centennial Drive. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 12:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

MEDALS AND SUCH

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DYK for SMS König

On July 30, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article SMS König, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 19:28, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Congrats on this totally kick-ass article making DYK! You rock!! — Kralizec! (talk) 20:45, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! I'm about to have SMS Derfflinger ready as well (she's already passed 5x expansion, I just need to finish the article) :) Parsecboy (talk) 20:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Ian used the right phrase above: "single-minded determination". I'd also add "content producing machine". ;) —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 23:42, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't know what's come over me the past few weeks, but I do know that only Goeben still needs significant work for the German BC articles. I apparently am the man :D Parsecboy (talk) 00:42, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: File:S.M.S Derfflinger.jpg and {{PD-1923}}

Hi Parsecboy. {{PD-1923}} is meant for non-US publications that were first published before 1923. The US laws treat every work that was published before 1923 as in the US public domain. However, these works may still be copyrighted in their country of origin, usually because the author might not have died more than 70 years ago. Commons would delete such files as the rule on Commons is to host only images that are public domain in US and their country of origin. If the images are hosted on Wikipedia itself, then they only have to comply to US public domain. {{PD-US}} is usually meant for pre-1923 works first published in US.

File:S.M.S Derfflinger.jpg has a problem in that no source was given to verify that the image is taken by W.Schäfer or that it was published (not created) before 1923. I can provide a verifiably pre-1923 published photo/art of Derfflinger later. Jappalang (talk) 02:35, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Since I assessed the article for B-Class, I thought I'd jump in... For me there was no question about the picture being taken pre-1923, due to her fate in 1919 - you're saying the issue is we've no verificaion that it was published (or more particularly published in the US) pre-1923? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 02:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, "first publication date" (regardless of location) is the key for assessing the US copyright status of works (pre-1923), not creation. Post-1923 publications would involve URAA and US copyright compliance for non-US works. Jappalang (talk) 03:12, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

SVG version with Derfflinger highlighted

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  Not sure if this is a painting or a photo; if an American artwork, this can be moved to Commons, replacing PD-1923 with PD-US
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  Foredeck
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  Firing all guns
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  Attack run
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  With torpedo boat screen
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  Silhouette
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  High waves swamp his aft (German ships are masculine, right?)
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  Setting off for Scapa Flow
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  Crow's nest (might be another Derfflinger-class, but most likely Derfflinger himself
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  Front two turrets (same situation as crow's nest)
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  Rear two turrets (same situation as crow's nest)
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  Derfflingen is ship 20, the west-most vessel (and luckily the most legible). Possibly transclude to an SVG?

Got these. Jappalang (talk) 06:01, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Corrected the typos in the maps. Jappalang (talk) 01:03, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Rashad Sadygov

Hello, could you please rename Rashad Sadyghov article to Rashad Sadygov as his surname in english goes as "Sadygov" not Sadyghov.--NovaSkola (talk) 23:35, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Bayern class battleship

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Wikiproject: Did you know? 02:14, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Happy WikiBirthday

I was traveling this weekend so I missed it, but it looks like July 31 was your "WikiBirthday". So here's to a happy belated WikiBirthday for a huge contributor... keep up the good work! rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 20:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Parsecboy (talk) 10:37, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Mackensen class battlecruiser

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BorgQueen (talk) 20:14, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Chilling effect

Hi,

as you were involved in the back-and-forth moving of Chilling effect, please have a look at Talk:Chilling_effect. Thank you. --Austrian (talk) 20:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)