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Hi, which address is the plaque from? I believe there is more than one plaque relating to him in Dublin. Hohenloh ⁺ 11:12, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

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Getting clarification on your comment on the Rolfing talk page

Hello Osioni, thanks for your comment, I found it interesting and could see several different directions for how it could be interpreted regarding its impact on the article. Just curious, what point were you making? Was this in response to the topic in that section about chiropractic and osteopathic influence? Or was this more to say that the "effectiveness" according to western medicine isn't relevant? (I think there's good evidence in the sources for that.) Also, I am wondering where you found that quote attributed to Schleip. He is listed as the Research Director on the page that you linked to but not as the sole author of the site. I tried googling the quote to see if there was an article by him with that quote but I didn't find one. I was looking in part because Ronz's comment included a section in quotes and I was looking to see if that was part of the same original quote.... but his section doesn't appear in google at all so I think he just threw in the quotes without quoting anything. I'm asking you here because I was to get clear on your comment before addressing his. Thanks!--Karinpower (talk) 22:56, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Karinpower for the contact. If you click through the Schleip page to the FAQs you will find the text I quoted from. Also have a look at the sources he has. I have an over 30 year involvement with "fringe bodywork methods". One thing that area here in Europe has given up doing is to trying to fulfill the criteria of the "orthodox clinical medical world". It is just fighting windmills. We have nothing to do with the medical world and do not need their approval. I realize that makes it difficult to have an accepted definition in the Wiki. But do you see that none of the thousands of approved Rolfers around the world are in there attempting to define Rolfing? Why, because it is pointless. It will constantly be set upon by those who are hardwired to disapproving of anything outside of their "orthodox clinical medical world". Is very frustrating I know, and I admire the cause you have taken up. In the end some acceptable compromise just needs to be reached. Clients looking for good bodywork to alleviate the impediments they have, will Google and not Wiki for a method. I am not going to spend much time defending Rolfing, I'm too busy otherwise. Rolfing is a reputable high standards form of deep tissue manipulative bodywork. Like most "fringe methods", it helps clients overcome impediments the medical world has no treatment for. Greetings Osioni (talk) 12:52, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. Yes, I did find the quote on the FAQ page, but again, I don't think those are necessarily Schleip's words. We don't know who wrote the text for the site - it doesn't say. Websites aren't considered good sources for WP, yet there are several strong secondary sources that echo the idea that you bring up, that the purpose of Rolfing is "holistic" (with many different explanations of what that means) rather than targeting to fix or cure medical conditions. It could be useful to include something about this in the "effectiveness" section. I'm editing on a number of alternative medicine pages but for now am focusing on the Rolfing article in part because it was exceptionally light on sources (for a fairly well-established modality) and because the tone is surprisingly negative. I've seen this on several other alt-med articles, and then there are others that need to be strongly edited to create a neutral, encyclopedic tone and better reliance on secondary sources (I have chimed in on several of those). And as I'm doing research on Rolfing, I've found some sources that could benefit other alt med articles. So it's a long process but I think positive change will happen. Please do keep chiming in on the talk page; we do need to hear from a broad range of perspectives. Most of the editors on that page are of the "skeptic" persuasion, and therefore tend to be fairly anti-altmed. Ronz is certainly one of those. But remember, these discussions will only be won by using arguments within the WP culture; it's all about having good logical reasons and support from quality sources. Be well!--Karinpower (talk) 19:39, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Regarding Postural Integration

Hello Osioni, I really want to back up and say that written (mostly printed) sources are the only thing that matters. The fact that I did a bit of googling to see if my impression of the limited scope of PI in the US was correct, and even followed up by contacting someone listed as a US PI trainer to see if trainings were happening in the US, is really not the central point. Let's return to the idea of finding quality written sources. That's really the only leg that we have to stand on with WP. --Karinpower (talk) 23:33, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Following is copy of section you deleted from your Talk page. It first needs to be cleared from the table:

Postural Integration

Hi, I followed up with the PI USA trainer representative about the picture you said was given of PI in that country because I have a relative in the States who earlier in the year told me about positive sessions or treatments he had in this method with a therapist there. So I took the liberty to ask the US trainer of PI there if PI had really faded away, quoting what you said the trainer had said who replied "I have no recollection nor record of communicating with a Karin Power or any Wikipedia representative. I don't know who she's referring to when she says "US trainer." If she did contact me under a fictitous name, I never said "that there isn't much demand in term of students". I could have said that I don't have a training planned at this time. If I don't have a training planned, I don't have to lie about it." The trainer asked me to have you contact her again for clarification. Perhaps you can kindly do this, thank you. Osioni (talk) 12:22, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello again, you have just deleted above section where a clarification is asked for because you have made a negative assessment of PI in the US on the Postural Integration Talk page. That is what you need to remove or correct in the first instance. The PI trainer in US whom I contacted and informed of what you put on the PI Talk page asks for a clarification from you. I said I would contact you first, because she wishes to contact you herself here on this page. Deleting it does not eliminate it from WP. I will copy it on to my page and the PI talk page. So please clarify whom you were in contact with. Thank you very much. Osioni (talk) 10:16, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Irish Free State article

It was Field Marshal French who decided the leaders were to be executed. Maxwell only arrived after the Rising had ended to carry out French's orders from London. (PaddyDaly (talk) 14:07, 14 December 2014 (UTC))

French selected Maxwell to take over the situation in Dublin, who arrived there after the rebellion had been suppressed by Brig Gen Lowe, French adding that he would not interfere with Maxwell's actions. From Maxwell's page: "Maxwell arrived in Ireland on Friday 28 April as "military governor" with "plenary powers" under Martial law. He set about dealing with the rebellion under his understanding of Martial law. During the week 2–9 May, Maxwell was in sole charge of trials and sentences by "field general court martial", which was trial without defense or jury and in camera. He had 3,400 people arrested, 183 civilians tried, 90 of whom were sentenced to death. Fifteen were shot between 3 and 12 May."

I suggest some text to the effect "The Easter Rising of 1916, and in particular the decision of the assigned military commander General Maxwell to execute many of its leaders after courts-martial, generated sympathy for the republican cause in Ireland." French may carry "some" responsibility for Maxwell's actions, but not in the first instance. Osioni (talk) 19:58, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

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Was it just a Freudian slip that you described the partition of Ireland as a "fail accompli"? ;-) Scolaire (talk) 13:05, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

This wasn't me, by the way. Either the IP was reading your talk page or great minds think alike. Scolaire (talk) 14:31, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Amusingly yes you are right, a nearly alternatively correct slip up, since anon'y corrected unless "fail" is preferable but would need to be defended. At first I thought the statement as such was being questioned, I unfortunately didn't keep the name of the historian I noted it from who wrote "The Northern state was a 'fait accompli' by the time of the treaty negotiations" (the British strategy at the time). Thanks for contacting me. Osioni (talk) 15:12, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Royal Munster Fusiliers Cap Badge

Hi - Congratulations on your excellent work on the Royal Munster Fusiliers article. You will see that I have uploaded a pic of Royal Munster Fusiliers Cap Badge to the article. Are you OK for me to put the cap badge in the infobox (as for other regimental articles) and move the Old Royal Munster Fusiliers (1881-1922) insignia emblem into the history section (probably to where the cap badge is at present)? Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 22:35, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your many positive edits and comments. My impression is that your cap badge pic looks well where it now is. Without wishing to oppose your proposal, I find the more colourful "old" RMF insignia matches the phrase "by the shamrock on their caps" in the rhyme below it better. So what best to do? Greetings, Osioni (talk) 18:30, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

OK. Fine with me to leave things as they are. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 22:17, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, From https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization_of_people#Ordering_names_in_a_category, Other exceptions: "Only hyphens, apostrophes and periods/full stops punctuation marks should be kept in sort values. All other punctuation marks should be removed. The only exception is the apostrophe should be removed for names beginning with O'. For example, Eugene O'Neill is sorted {{DEFAULTSORT:ONeill, Eugene} }" Spleodrach (talk) Fine then if that's the case, was new to me. Sorry for doubting you. Then OShee rather than Oshee and ODonnell rather than Odonnell would be preferable. There are quite a few O' Defaultsorts still out there, by the way. Greetings Osioni (talk) 01:30, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

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