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Battle of Warsaw (1945) moved to draftspace

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Thanks for your contributions to Battle of Warsaw (1945). Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability and it has too many problems of language or grammar. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

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October 2023

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  Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Battle of Berestechko, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 06:10, 18 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Your submission at Articles for creation: Battle of Warsaw (1945) (October 18)

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Re: AFD for an article

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Hi, given your interest in Jankowce Massacre‎‎/Battle of Yankivtsi‎, you should visit and participate in its WP:Articles for Deletion discussion and not have moved the article (and maybe not that full of a rewrite during the AFD): Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Yankivtsi‎. Thanks. Skynxnex (talk) 19:35, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Please stop moving articles during AFDs. And I'd suggest stop moving articles until you have more experience since You haven't responded anywhere to the warnings or suggestions you've received so far. Thanks. Skynxnex (talk) 01:20, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Draft:Battle of Warsaw (1945)

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Thanks for starting this, but currently this is too poorly referenced to be accepted. Modern standards require footnote referencing for every paragraph, and you just cite a general and rather old (communist era) work with not even a page range. Comapre this to the articlez I wrote few months ago on WWII topics and you'll see how a new Wikipedia article this days should look: Detached Unit of the Polish Army or German atrocities committed against Polish prisoners of war. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:15, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

November 2023

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  Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. --Yamla (talk) 17:28, 12 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

how did i vandalize? Olek Novy (talk) 17:38, 12 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

  You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Deluge (history). This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Arent the edits hat i made true? Olek Novy (talk) 20:19, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Please explain your actions here. Kolya Muratov (talk) 18:19, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

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Malaya Berestavitsa Masssacre

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Perhaps something from the old article at User:Piotrus/Massacre of Brzostowica Mała will be of use to you? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:20, 24 December 2023 (UTC)Reply


I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Thanks for the article, which I have reviewed. Is it translated from another source?

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Polish-Ukrainian ethnic conflict moved to draftspace

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Thanks for your contributions to Polish-Ukrainian ethnic conflict. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it has too many problems of language or grammar and it is not written in a neutral point of view or encyclopedic tone. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. voorts (talk/contributions) 19:44, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

How isn't it neutral? Olek Novy (talk) 19:47, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
It promotes a particular point of view about how the battles went; that is, it states in wikivoice that certain events were decisive or tactically smart. An additional reason I moved this to draft is that several sections lack citations entirely. voorts (talk/contributions) 19:51, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
I added some sources to the "Polish offensive on Ulhovka and Rzeczyca" and the only problem i can see about the POV is the UPA Attack on Modryń i can add the Ukrainian perspective of the events aswell. Olek Novy (talk) 20:07, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think, in general, you should work on making this a bit more concise and making sure that things are being properly attributed, rather than being stated in wikivoice. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:13, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

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There seems to be a lot of red links in the infobox which are illegal per the WP:MOS. Can these be removed until an article is created? Great article besides that.

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Nomination of Ukrainian-Polish conflict in Volhynia for deletion

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Interesting topic to translate?

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Since youa re interested in related topic, something I found recently on pl wiki that you may be interested in: pl:Udział Ukraińców w tłumieniu powstania warszawskiego. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:03, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Nice suggestion, however now im thinking of making an english version of Ukrainizacja ziemi chełmskiej Olek Novy (talk) 18:47, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
All good topics. Polish-Ukrainian history is fascinating and poorly covered in English. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:08, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

This is not a mispelling

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Re: https://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Self-Defence_in_Lithuania_and_Belarus_(1918)&diff=prev&oldid=1209760833

I recommend using WP:RM for any and all non-technical moves. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:08, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

March 2024

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Didnt the user that reported me start the edit war? the saem message should be given to him. I tried discussing this with him and he ignored me and started reverting my edits. Source is here - [1]. With Polish-Ukrainian ethnic conflict he unexplainably changed the result.Olek Novy (talk) 17:05, 3 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Request reason:

Rather then a block there should be a warning for both users Olek Novy (talk) 16:49, 4 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

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This is not the place to discuss policy changes. Yamla (talk) 18:28, 4 March 2024 (UTC)Reply


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Then where do you discuss it? Olek Novy (talk) 20:32, 4 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Blocking policy is set out in WP:BLOCK. Specific language regarding warnings (and that they are not mandatory) is at WP:BEFOREBLOCK; when your block expires you may discuss it at WT:BLOCK, but you may want to search the archives of that page for older discussions. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 20:41, 4 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I dont want to argue about this anymore, better to just wait till tommorow. Olek Novy (talk) 20:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I have a question. Why am i unblocked but my IP address is still blocked till the next day? Olek Novy (talk) 15:57, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Is your IP directly blocked, or can you just not edit with it?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:30, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I cant edit due to the IP address being blocked Olek Novy (talk) 19:16, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
While you were blocked, did you try to edit Wikipedia using your IP?--Bbb23 (talk) 19:32, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
No? Olek Novy (talk) 19:34, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hmm, it might help if you were to disclose your IP. If you don't wish to do so publicly (understandable), you could e-mail it to me. Aren't you getting some sort of message when you try to edit?--Bbb23 (talk) 20:42, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I am getting a message. Olek Novy (talk) 20:45, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Just realized that you can't e-mail me because you have no e-mail associated with your account. zzuuzz, you're better at this - what's going on? I suspect autoblock but have been unable to confirm that as I don't know of a way to look for an autoblock once the user is no longer blocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:14, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Probably. It seems to be cleared. If it happens again, there should be an autoblock number, I think beginning a #. We can be told what that is. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:12, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
How did you figure out that it's cleared, zzuuzz? For my own education.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:46, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Battles for Vilnius (1918–1919)

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I will assess this article within the next few days if no one else gets to it first. It appears that it has not been assessed because the bot did not recognize it as a military history article and no one tagged it as such or put it up for review. I can only speculate as to why this occurred. One speculative possibility that I will mention is that the article for creation tag, though checked, may have contributed to the article being considered incomplete or in effect a draft (though apparently not labelled as such as near as I can tell). It's in the pipeline now. Donner60 (talk) 03:06, 11 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Olek Novy: You may have seen the above note so I am pinging you about this further comment. I think it would be good to have a referral for the red linked commanders in the infoboxes. I know you have them in the body of the article but given the discouragement of red links in infoboxes, I think this is advisable. (I tried it and could not make the addition.) If this is not easily done, perhaps you could leave a note or notes from the names in the infobox that there are articles about these commanders in the Polish Wikipedia.
I think the long section starting with "The governments of the Belarusian People's Republic..." and not really having an exact point would be better placed as one or more subsections under the Aftermath section. They are the further actions or reactions following the evacuation of the city and before the matter was settled.
Other than these small points, I am prepared to assess the article as B class. Good work on a rather complicated series of events. Donner60 (talk) 11:04, 11 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I Would merge some texts from The governments of the Belarusian People's Republic to the background with the subheading "Preparation for the defense of Vilnius", i would add the text of the Lithuanian flag to the Polish capture of the city, while i would add more information to the Second Attack of the Red Army on Vilnius. Olek Novy (talk) 12:19, 11 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Give it a try and we can see how it looks. Sounds good. Donner60 (talk) 04:26, 12 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I done your suggestions and ii think the article is ready for the B class. Olek Novy (talk) 17:09, 12 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I have rated the article as B class. This was a complicated situation. Thanks for your work on it. Donner60 (talk) 01:37, 14 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

List of armed conflicts Involving Poland and Ukraine moved to draftspace

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Nomination of List of armed conflicts Involving Poland and Ukraine for deletion

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Polish-Ukrainian ethnic conflict citations

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This article is currently under assessment review by another user who will presumably proceed, hopefully in the near future. In the meantime, please provide a citation at the end of every paragraph which does not have one, even paragraphs which have citations earlier in the paragraph. This will be needed to pass b1 criterion in a B class review. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 00:33, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I added citations to end of most paragraphs, is it good enough? Olek Novy (talk) 21:00, 21 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
It may be something of a technicality because you have so many sources but at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/B-Class FAQ, you will find the sentence: "As a rule of thumb, the absolute minimum is that all paragraphs should at least end with a citation and all direct quotes should be attributed to a source." I see four paragraphs which would need an ending citation. 1. The two one-sentence paragraphs at the beginning of "Causes of the Conflict" might be combined and one source cited. It seems to me that they are closely related and likely to be mentioned in one of your sources. 2. "This is only a part of the greater "Defence of the 'triangle' of Maziarnia Wawrzykowa - Grabowna - Huta Poloniecka" which resulted in the liquidation of this triangle by the Germans" will need a citation. Also, the sentence is unclear. I think you mean resulted in a liquidation of part of the triangle. 3. The first sentence in "Przemyśl and Dobromil counties" will need a citation even if it were combined with another paragraph. Otherwise, I think it is likely to be challenged. 4. Finally, a citation for the groupings is needed. Perhaps it is even in your previous citation. This same type of paragraph and the need for a citation has come up twice before in recent months.
Since the scope of this article is the subject of some controversy, it seems as if there is no rush. It would surprise me if any reviewer would go ahead with a review while a possible large change in the scope of the article is unresolved. If the controversy continues without the commenter coming back to this, the article may need to be removed from the assessment requests until the controversy is resolved. I think it is too soon to do that now, however. I hope there is some clarification soon. Donner60 (talk) 05:18, 23 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I done you're request Olek Novy (talk) 09:52, 23 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

April 2024

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Please start using edit summaries when you revert people. We have WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE. If you are changing something in the infobox that is not reflected in the article, then this does not follow the manual of style. I am not sure how many times you have been warned about this but it would be more helpful to explain your actions. Mellk (talk) 06:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I dont get what was wrong with my edit, Russo-Polish War (1654–1667) is considered a "russian victory" though its contradictory to other stuff in the article. Olek Novy (talk) 07:23, 23 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
For the article about the 1609–1618 war there is an aftermath section which does not explicitly say that particular side won the war. If you want to mention the view that the Poles won the war, then I would suggest to include this in the aftermath section, though whether it can be said that a particular side won the war in wikivoice, I do not think so (at least with the current state of the article). Mellk (talk) 07:30, 23 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hrubieszów revolution

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I am reviewing the article for B class. It appears to be B class but it would be better if all sources used as references were also identified in the references section. If I have any further suggestions, I will post them here after I finish reading the article more carefully. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 04:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you Olek Novy :)

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Thank you , I hope that now you can correct something in my article and add something from yourself because I saw on your "Page user" that you were working on it Querty1231 (talk) 17:44, 10 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Unjustified deletion on List of armed conflicts involving Poland against Russia

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I ask you not to delete the information just like that, as well as the sources on the article. Dushnilkin (talk) 13:11, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Nice work

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