User talk:Okiefromokla/Archive 4

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Photo

Thanks for fixing the Boston Ave. picture I couldnt figure out why it was messed up. User:Buaidh made alot of edits and didnt leave a edit summary.--CPacker (talk) 15:37, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I was wondering if you have been watching Tulsa International Airport, it been getting edited like crazy by IP's and brand new users. I don't know anything about the Airport so im not sure whats ture or not, just thought I would let you know if you want to take a look at it.--CPacker (talk) 05:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Featured Photo

Hey I wanted to let you know that I nominated the Old Tulsa Panorama photo and its now featured. I belive that it is the only featured photo related to Oklahoma, I think it needs a spot in the Tulsa article. I know that you changed it before so I thought I would give you a heads up and see what you thought. Drop me a line and let me know what you think --CPacker (talk) 04:23, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Kiamichi Country

Hello! I just dropped by to mention that I'd written on the proposed merger of Kiamichi Country and Southeastern Oklahoma at Talk:Little Dixie (Oklahoma). I think these concepts are rather different and should be treated separately. Indeed, I think there should be separate entries for each of ODOT's six kitschy travel regions. I love the entry for Green Country. Let's write one for Red Carpet Country, too. Best wishes, etc. GreenGourd (talk) 00:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Greenwood

Hey just wanted to tell you that the photo you added today looks great it really adds to the page, I think its really nice that the page has improved alot in the way of photos. Keep up the good work.--CPacker (talk) 03:22, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar!

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For all your hard work editing and improving Oklahoma articles, I award you Barnstar! --  ♦CPacker  22:21, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism, yeah right

You made a threat to have me barred from making edits for my change to the Tulsa article but you should check the definition of vandalism -- "Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism."

When I took out:

", the parent company to the Bank of Oklahoma, the Bank of Texas, the Bank of Arkansas, the Bank of Albuquerque, the Bank of Arizona, Colorado State Bank and Trust, and the Bank of Kansas City."

it was because it was gratuitous and basically redundant because the hyperlink says the exact same thing.

It was frustrating for you to undo my edit and your treat to have me barred felt like bullying.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.142.33.0 (talk)

Sonics edit

Heads up. You're doing good work on the article about the Sonics moving to OKC, but look at the references at the bottom. You're not linking the dates properly. The dates will link on their own without formatting them in the references. There are a few other mistakes in the references you might want to look at also. Other than that, keep up the good work. Chicken Wing (talk) 00:57, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I know. Ive been fixing them for the last 10 mins. Please don't edit the page for another minute or two. Thanks. Okiefromokla ^complaints 01:03, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Done! :) Thanks again. Okiefromokla ^complaints 01:09, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

It looks good. You might be interested in this. It should take care of that citation. Chicken Wing (talk) 01:13, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but the timing was off just a tad. I had actually just that second used a source already in the article to cite that claim when I received your message :) Okiefromokla ^complaints 01:18, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

That's fine. You did pretty good work on the article. It looks like it meets good article status to me, but I'm a novice at making those kinds of judgments. There are parts of the article that look a bare on wikilinks, but other than that, it has pictures, sources, and covers just about every notable fact on this issue. Chicken Wing (talk) 01:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't think Wikilinks are going to be a problem. The parts of the article with fewer wikilinks seems to not need any. I might want to put it up for featured article, but that would certainly have to wait until the Schultz lawsuit is completely concluded. For now, I think GA is within reach, but we'll see. I've provided a link to the GA criteria on the article's talk page. Okiefromokla ^complaints 01:29, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Sonics to OKC GAN

Excellent idea, but unfortunately I'm going to be out of the country without internet access for the next two weeks, so won't be able to help. But good luck on it! One thought that I'm having is that maybe a fan reaction section isn't a good idea. The reason why I'm thinking that is that a section dedicated solely to fan reaction will have a tendency to explode out of control as fans will magically appear and add their own reaction, or add multiple sourced reactions, etc, etc to the point that it'll become excessive. One idea would be to interleave the reaction of the fans throughout the article. So the fans reaction of Shultz's sale to Bennett and Co. could be included in the "Sale of team" section, reaction to the settlement could be included in the City v PBC section. --Bobblehead ^(rants) 17:24, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

That's a good idea. When I get down to working on it I'll see what looks best and ask for opinions on the talk page. As for your "leaving the country" trip — well, I'm a little jealous. Okiefromokla ^complaints 17:36, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Your edits to the nutrition section of Meat

Hi,

I have some concerns regarding your latest edit to meat. First of all, your reference for the claim Meat has been linked to significantly raised risk of diabetes and heart disease goes to the website [1] which is not a reliable source (at least for this article), for obvious reasons. Why don't you instead find the actual study they reference (The study, which was published in the American Journal of Epidemiology)?

Your next statement (the risks of heart disease for meat eaters being three times greater than for vegetarians, according to one survey) isn't quite supported by the study, which at best concludes (straight from the abstract): For 45- to 64-year-old men, there was approximately a threefold difference in risk between men who ate meat daily and those who did not eat meat.. I already updated the article to clarify this.

For your next claim (A large-scale study in 2008 also found that eating two or more servings of meat a day increases the risk of suffering from excessive fat around the waist, high blood sugar, high cholesterol, and high blood pressure by 25 percent compared to those who had only two servings of meat a week or less), I checked out the linked articles and unless I am misreading things, it seems the study measured meat eating in conjunction with drinking of diet sodas, versus doing neither of these things. In this case it is quite likely that other dietary factors were also not controlled, and the study's results have little to do with meat eating per se. Can you confirm whether this is the case, or point to the original abstract so it can be verified?

The reference for the next claim (One famous study, the Nurses' Health Study, followed about 100,000 female nurses and their eating habits. Nurses who ate the largest amount of animal fat were twice as likely to develop colon cancer as the nurses who ate the least amount of animal fat.) seems to go to the study's main page with no clear indication on how to find the reference for the aforementioned claim. Can you please find a better link?

Thank you. --WayneMokane (talk) 19:57, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I've looked over the problems you point out. I changed the source for the statement "Meat has been linked to significantly raised risk of diabetes and heart disease," but added another source to support diabetes, as the new source does not. For the sentence that begins with "A large-scale study in 2008...", I've looked back over the source and it doesn't appear to say that meat and soda in conjunction produce a 25% greater risk. Instead, it makes this claim, without mentioning soda:

People who eat two or more servings of red meat a day are much more likely to develop conditions leading to heart disease and diabetes, U.S. researchers reported on Tuesday.

Eating two or more servings of meat a day increases the risk of suffering from a cluster of risk factors known as metabolic syndrome by 25 percent compared to those who had only two servings of meat a week, the researchers reported in the journal Circulation.

It goes on to say that "the study also found that diet soda consumption was linked to these elevated risk factors." There doesn't seem to be an indication that the specific claim of a "25% greater risk" takes into account soda consumption — just that diet soda can also lead to higher risks. I also changed the ref for the nurses study and found another to support the claim that meat increases breast cancer risk, because the source being used was the PETA-run goveg.com website you objected to. Okiefromokla ^questions? 22:32, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for following up on that, plus your other improvements. Let's continue this on the talk page. --WayneMokane (talk) 17:25, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Your rollback request

Hello Okiefromokla, I've granted your account rollback in accordance with your request. Please remember to use rollback to revert edits that you are absolutely sure are vandalism: if in doubt, don't use rollback to revert. In addition, misuse of the rollback feature, either by reverting good-faith edits or revert-warring, can and will lead to its removal. For more information and practice, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback. Good luck. Acalamari 16:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the rollback. Will use it carefully! Okiefromokla ^questions? 16:43, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome! Acalamari 16:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

why?

i work in the same lab as little alien (nate) i'm just joking around with him. is that really vandalism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.232.133.67 (talk) 18:47, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is indeed vandalism to disrupt an editor's user page. Regardless of knowing him and intending your edits to be a "joke" with him, you can and will be blocked if you continue. Please see WP:Vandalism for a complete description of what constitutes vandalism. Thanks. Okiefromokla ^questions? 18:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi there

Warren Kinsella here. I am writing about this process, a summary of which is found here: http://www.warrenkinsella.com/index.php?entry=entry080715-152011

Best wishes,

W —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wkinsella (talk • contribs) 19:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!!!

Thank you for reverting the vandalism on my user-page! I cannot express my gratitude in words so, instead, I give you this plate of cookies. Thanks again! ŁittleÄlien¹⁸² (_talk\^contribs) 05:24, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

No problem! Cookies are good. Okiefromokla ^questions? 16:15, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

User talk:84.16.227.242

Thanks for removing that warning from my talk page. I'm not sure who this user is, most likely a vandal I have reverted here recently. Once again, thanks for taking the time to deal with this. Cheers, Landon1980 (talk) 18:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

No problem at all. Okiefromokla ^questions? 19:40, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Adminship advice

Hi, I meant to give you advice and review your contributions earlier, but unfortunately, it's now almost dinnertime where I live. However, I'd be willing to give advice and do a review tomorrow if that's okay. I can answer one point though: with topics we might of worked on together, I can't remember any exactly, but it's possible that you may have seen me on the Carrie Underwood article, which is one I've edited quite a bit. Best regards. Acalamari 02:09, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay, here we go: first off, I noticed that you've done a lot of article-wrting, but recently, you've been doing a lot of vandal-fighting using Huggle. Nowadays, people who do a lot of vandal-fighting tend to get opposed on that basis, so I would suggest only going on vandal-reverting runs occasionally, or at the very least, maintain some article-writing each day. I did, however, come across some AIV reports, and I found that the users reported all received blocks, and there was even a report where I had blocked the user. :) I also noticed in your history that you were involved in an arbitration case a few months ago: should you run for adminship, it's best to mention disputes you've been involved with, rather than try to hide them. Did you keep a cool head in those disputes? Admins need to remain calm, and evidence of a user overreacting or behaving badly during a dispute can bring an RfA down very easily. A user also needs to have experience in that places they say they wish to work in: for example, if you say that you want to deal with vandalism, perform page protections, and work at AfD, then you'll need to have experience at AIV, RFPP, and AFD. Finally, I would advise against self-nominating: self-noms nowadays tend to attract one or two people opposing simply because it's a self-nom. If you need any more advice, let me know. Best wishes. Acalamari 23:18, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to do that — I appreciate it! I have one question: Would the change in my account around November 2007 affect my chances? As you can see on my user page, I tend to claim all my pre-Nov 2007 edit history from the account now called Okiefromokla (old). Would that fly in a RFA and should I even mention that previous account? It was on that account that I logged time in naming convention discussions and being a regular reviewer at FAR and FAC.

Otherwise, I'm satisfied with your assessment. You’re right that I’ve done some vandal fighting recently — although this was basically within a 24 hour period yesterday (I just got Huggle and I went a little crazy with it... it's just so fun!). Other than that, I really spend a minimal amount of time fighting vandals, although after two years, the reports at AIV do add up. I have also had experience at AFD and have requested page protection a few times. I feel I have a firm grasp of that process. Something I pride myself on very much is working well with others and keeping a cool head in disputes, and I've certainly never been engaged in an edit war or violated WP:3RR, although I’ve had my share of disagreements. In fact, recently, I've had some dealings with problem IPs that were perpetual borderline vandals and I'm very proud of my management of those situations.

I suppose I'll hold off nominating myself for a while and wait to see if someone notices me and decides to do it :) In the meantime, I have some projects I'm working on and it wouldn't hurt to participate in some more RFCs and AFDs. That would build onto my experience in the areas you point out. Thanks again! Okiefromokla ^questions? 23:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

As long as you disclose your past account when you run, and explain the situation behind it, then no one should hold it against you. The fact you mentioned it to me is a good sign, and having it listed on your user page is good too. Thanks for your responses to my points, and you're very welcome for my advice and review. Acalamari 00:00, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. I actually saw you just submit your request, for RfA is on my watchlist. Good luck. Acalamari 21:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Right back at ya

Thanks :) Gatoclass (talk) 05:24, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey, since you are handing out smiles...

Ecoleetage (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Thanks! Okiefromokla ^questions? 19:52, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, smile and the world smiles with you... :D Ecoleetage (talk) 19:57, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Your RFA

Best of luck for your RFA -- Tinu Cherian - 13:13, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! Okiefromokla ^questions? 14:28, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Assistance

Minneapolis went up front page today. Some talk on the talk page. Not a lot but a lot of points re-raised during your original review Talk:Minneapolis,_Minnesota/Archive_4. Might be useful to glance to see if you have anything to add, even if it's critical of the page. One user as usual cites "liberal" propaganda in the page. Lord I don't even know what that means anymore. .:davumaya:. 21:01, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

I took a look at the article and chimed in a bit on one of the conversations. I'll keep track of the conversation and let me know if I can be of any more help! :) Okiefromokla ^questions? 23:26, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

it has been reported that they have found a nickname and you even have it on the page! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rwhollywoodfan (talk • contribs) 18:06, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

OKC Basketball

I changed it because it has been announced that they will be named the Thunder. You even have it written and have a resource on the page. So calm down. I was giving the latest info. Not my fault that u dont watch ESPN or read the resources on the page. Rwhollywoodfan (talk) 19:45, 24 July 2008 (UTC)rwhollywoodfan

Actually, all that has been reported is that one anonymous source has told a news station that the name is going to be "Thunder". Editors here have opted to relay that information, but also acknowledge that the team "officially" has no name because the NBA itself has not made an announcement or confirmed the report that the name will be "Thunder". In the future, if you notice editors reverting your change to an article, it would be a good idea to bring it up on the talk page of that article and see if you can't get people to agree with your change. Thanks. Okiefromokla ^questions? 19:48, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok thank you for your help. Rwhollywoodfan (talk) 20:07, 24 July 2008 (UTC)rwhollywoodfan

Any time. Okiefromokla ^questions? 20:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Seattle SuperSonics relocation to Oklahoma City

..is currently on hold. Please review the concerns addressed on it's review page.--S_RX 19:16, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Your Welcome. It failed on neutrality because of poor word choice and once it was written like that it failed a NPOV, once you address my comments, it shall be fixed. Good luck :)--S_RX 19:48, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

You're a sysop!

Hi, Okiefromokla/Archive 4, Congratulations on Becoming a Sysop!

Hey there. I'm pleased to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator! You've volunteered to do housekeeping duties that normal users sadly cannot participate in. Sysops can't do a lot of stuff: They can't delete pages just like that (except patent nonsense like "aojt9085yu8;3ou"), and they can't protect pages in an edit war they are involved in. But they can delete random junk, block anonymous vandals, delete pages listed on articles for deletion for more than 5 days (provided there's a consensus), protect pages when asked to, and keep the few protected pages that exist on Wikipedia up to date.

Almost anything you can do can be undone, but please take a look at The Administrators' how-to guide and the Administrators' reading list before you get started (although you should have read that during your candidacy ;). Take a look before experimenting with your powers. Also, please add Administrators' noticeboard to your watchlist, as there are always discussions/requests for admins there. If you have any questions drop me a message at My talk page. Have fun! =Nichalp «Talk»=
 PS Please add you name to WP:LA!

=Nichalp «Talk»= 19:46, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Da-amn. I leave for two weeks and you get promoted. Congrats and sorry I couldn't throw my support in the !vote (not that you needed it). --Bobblehead ^(rants) 19:50, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

1. Supp - Oops, I mean, congratulations! :) naerii 19:51, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Good job, I think you will make a fine job. Have fun mobbing :D So#Why 20:01, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

• Congratulations on your successful request for adminship Okiefromoklahoma. :) Here's a link to the new admin school and a new T-shirt. In addition, thank you for coming to me for advice prior to your candidacy: I'm pleased to have helped you. If you need more help, you know where I am. Best wishes. Acalamari 20:23, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

The admins' T-shirt. Acalamari 20:23, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

• Congrats...See {{admin dashboard}}. Also, if you use the following code, your thank spam will at least have the right timestamp...Even if you are thanking {{BASEPAGENAME}} each time ... ;> –xeno (talk) 21:19, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

~~<includeonly>~~</includeonly><noinclude>~~</noinclude>

(never mind you're using the copy and paste and old comment instead of a subst a template method) =) –xeno (talk) 21:21, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

• Congrats, I'm sure you'll do us proud. Just don't go mental and delete everything in sight. :) - Toon⁰⁵ 21:37, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

• Congrats, don't break anything! Gazimoff_{(mentor/review)} 21:37, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations!! The bestowing of the `bit could not have happened to a finer editor! --Kralizec! (talk) 21:45, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

• Format mistake in RfA thank spam? What kind of monster have we let loose within the mop cupboard?? LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:59, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Quite a monster. Quite. :) Okiefromokla ^questions? 22:07, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

• I'd also like to point out that he blocked User:ThisIsaTest (a user with a block log a mile long, and who has been blocked for such lengths of time as "a haddock") for a mere 10 seconds. If he's gunna go that easy on vandals, I don't know why we gave him the bit in the first place! =) –xeno (talk) 22:25, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Congrats! Now you can do fun things like indef blocking Jimbo and replacing the main page with porn! Erik the Red 2 (AVE·CAESAR) 23:05, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on your successful RFA... Best of luck as an admin ..you may delete the main page occasionally ;) -- Tinu Cherian - 05:49, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Congrats! Ecoleetage (talk) 21:41, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks everybody! :) Okiefromokla ^questions? 21:45, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Heh, no problem

Frankly, most of the time I've been wrong on that point. That's good. But hindsight is always 20/20. Without plenty of evidence up front, I have no choice but to oppose in the first place and pray that I continue to be wrong. Anyway, if only you could stop butchering Merle Haggard...Kurt Weber (Go Colts!) 00:02, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

No problem, I understand. When I first joined the project, I considered creating an account with the name "Okie from Muskogee," but I found it too predictable. Besides, Muskogee is about 45 minutes away. Okiefromokla ^questions? 01:15, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Recall

You mentioned recall in your thanks spam - could I please see your recall criteria? Congrats, by the way. —Giggy 00:03, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I have no true criteria set as of yet. If several editors in good standing notice patterns in my judgment and admin work that do not represent the wellbeing of the project, I will step down. I apologize for being so vague; perhaps someday soon I may create a userpage with more specific conditions, including defining subjective issues like what I consider to be an editor in "good standing". While I dislike the idea of setting an exact number that need to approach me for recall, the ambiguity of it all may force me to do so. In the meantime, I will have to leave the issue with the promise that I will step down if "several" editors who are in good standing request it; preferably, at least two being administrators. Okiefromokla ^questions? 01:42, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for replying; certainly nothing wrong with your current "criteria". :-) —Giggy 01:47, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

No problem at all. Thanks! :) Okiefromokla ^questions? 20:35, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Congrats

Congratulations on your recently acquired adminship. This is my favorite so far - "15:20, 26 July 2008 Okiefromokla (Talk | contribs | block) blocked "ThisIsaTest (Talk | contribs)" (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 10 seconds ‎ (Unblock)" Ha. Ten seconds. You can also use units of "fortnights". One of these days I'm going to try to block for "many moons". Anyways, let me know if you have any questions or whatever. Have fun, don't delete the main page. Tan ǀ 39 02:38, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Okie, congrats on becoming an administrator. It was nice that you took the time to thank everyone that participated, bet that was time consuming. Not that it really matters now, but the day you nominated yourself I was getting ready to nominate you. I saw where you told acalamari you were going to wait and see if someone noticed you. I was impressed how you handled that IP that day accusing me of vandalism and what not, that is how I noticed you. Seeing how that is all I really knew of you, before nominating I wanted to check you out a bit. I was digging back through your contribs, and getting ready to write a nom, then out of the blue you wrote one yourself :). So you didn't need me after all. Anyways, I'm sure you will be a great administrator. Have a good day! Landon1980 (talk) 13:33, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I had another tab open writing one. It was taking me forever, seeing how it was my first time writing one. Not that it matters anyways, it all worked out for the best looks like. I couldn't believe it when you nominated yourself :), it caught me completely off guard. Landon1980 (talk) 04:46, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Well done! I'm sure you'll make a wonderful admin *insert lame joke about admin deletion of the main page here*. Best wishes, --Cameron* 15:40, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

"If you delete the main page, be sure not to tell Jimbo. Keep it a secret." How's that? :) Okiefromokla ^questions? 20:37, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:GA Review

Your welcome! Congratulations, well written article. I didn't even know you were an admin, may we keep in touch so I can come to you when I need admin help? ;)--S_RX 03:55, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, my RfA closed today, so I'm still in my first 24 hours of adminship. But of course, I will always help in any way that I can. Just drop me a line. Okiefromokla ^questions? 03:58, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

That's great! Congrats. Too bad I wasn't able to support you. But congrats. Thanks friend.--S_RX 04:01, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! :) Masterpiece2000 (talk) 08:54, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Well done, and I am glad to hear of your success. Keep up your excellent work! :) Lradrama 11:23, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on your successful RfA! I'm pleased to have been a part of it. Cosmic Latte (talk) 17:26, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks everybody! :D Okiefromokla ^questions? 20:28, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Warren Kinsella

Congrats on your new Adminship.

Regarding the material for the article, I checked that section and didn't notice any consensus to remove the material. While the subject of the article (Mr. Kinsella himself) has objected to the material, there is definitely no denying if it is backed up by third party sources, and furthermore, it does meet the notability test. Furthermore, given that he is a political strategist and blogger, these controversies are not out of the world for such a person. GoldDragon (talk) 20:01, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the material seems to be sourced reliably. However, if there is a chance that it could be in violation of WP:BLP — in this case, for over representing criticism — we have to be cautious, which is why I wanted some discussion to be initiated before the material was reinserted, especially since Warren Kinsella himself objected to it. Since I don't see any truly obvious or blatant WP:BLP violations, I have not removed anything. But if another editor objects and removes it again, I strongly suggest letting the revision stand and giving some time for discussion. After all, there's no rush. It's on my watchlist, so I'll be keeping track. And thanks for the congrats! Okiefromokla ^questions? 20:25, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

RFA thank-you

Thank-you for your support of me at my recent RFA, which was successful. I have appreciated everyone's comments and encouragement there. And congrats to you too, as I see you too have recently become an admin. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 03:22, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

No problem! You'll make a good one. And thanks :) Okiefromokla ^questions? 03:24, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, Okie!

Hey Okie!

Thanks for the detailed explanation, I appreciate you taking the time. I think I'm ready to start doing some proper editing finally.

Thanks again, OddLot (talk) 19:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

AIV commenting template

{{aiv}} makes things a little easier. also, {{admin dashboard}} if you haven't started using it yet (commenting template is included at no extra charge). –xeno (talk) 05:49, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Indeed. I usually use the templates, but when I want to be a bit more specific because there are multiple issues, I just type it out. I can't decide which way makes me more lazy :) Okiefromokla ^questions? 05:54, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

You can always just stack multiple AIV templates all together =) User has been incorrectly or insufficiently warned. Re-report if the user resumes vandalising after being warned sufficiently. Insufficient recent activity to warrant a block. ! ;> –xeno (talk) 05:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Now that is lazy. I like it! When I get all of the AIV templates memorized, things will go faster. I do know a few by heart now, but I find myself still needing to check on occasion. Okiefromokla ^questions? 06:09, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Can't figure out where my messages are

Hey Okie, When I logged in there was a note at the top of the screen stating that I "have new messages". I checked my talk page and there is nothing new. Where are these messages stored? Thanks! Odd OddLot (talk) 14:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response and explanation Okie! OddLot (talk) 15:04, 2 August 2008 (UTC)