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Good morning I am attempting to edit the profile by adding or deleting information however I’ve never done this before so I’m not really sure exactly what it is that you need I have documentation to prove what I put in is correct is that what you want can you please help me

@Rone83: You can find useful information on how to cite sources at WP:REFB. If you need other help as well, you can ask questions at the teahouse where experienced editors can give you advice. NonsensicalSystem(error?)(.log) 12:36, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

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  • Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
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Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

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  • An RfC is open to add a delay of one week from nomination to deletion for G13 speedy deletions.

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  • Last week all wikis were very slow or not accessible for 30 minutes. This was due to server lag caused by regenerating dynamic lists on the Russian Wikinews after a large bulk import. (T287380)

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2021

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  • The Score extension has been re-enabled on public wikis. It has been updated, but has been placed in safe mode to address unresolved security issues. Further information on the security issues can be found on the mediawiki page.

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New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021

 
 
New Page Review queue September 2021

Hello NonsensicalSystem,

Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.

At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.

There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2021

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  • Editors have approved expanding the trial of Growth Features from 2% of new accounts to 25%, and the share of newcomers getting mentorship from 2% to 5%. Experienced editors are invited to add themselves to the mentor list.
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Administrators' newsletter – December 2021

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Administrators' newsletter – January 2022

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  • Following consensus at the 2021 RfA review, the autopatrolled user right has been removed from the administrators user group; admins can grant themselves the autopatrolled permission if they wish to remain autopatrolled.

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Tapan Kumar Pradhan - New Section

I forgot to add reference to my addition to article. You have deleted my addition. Kindly undo your deletion so that I may add reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.197.237.23 (talk) 14:57, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Barak valley

Many Bengalis from Sylhet region migrated to the Cachar - Hailakandi region back when it was a part of Dimasa Kachari Kingdom ( 1745 - 1832 ) . The Bengalis worked as Soldiers, Labourers, Revenue administrators, agricultural labourers etc. The Bengali Brahmins who performaned the marriage ceremony between Prince Lakshminarayan Chandra Hasnu and Princess Kanchani ( daughter of Bhim Singha, the last Koch Rajbongshi king of Khaspur) we're given land grants by Maharaja Harishchandra Narayan Hasnu of the Dimasa Kachari kingdom. Truthfulsoldier (talk) 14:17, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

@Truthfulsoldier: You'll need to cite a reliable source for that. NonsensicalSystem(error?)(.log) 14:21, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Laskar, Nitish Ranjan (1985). Mahishya Das of Cachar and their Social Background. Proceedings of North East India History Association. North East India History Association. p. 456.

E M Lewis (1868). "Cachar District: Statement No. XVIII: Glossary of Local Terms". Principal Heads of the History and Statistics of the Dacca Division. Calcutta: Calcutta Central Press Company. pp. 406–408. Truthfulsoldier (talk) 08:04, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Bhattacharjee, J B (1994), "Pre-colonial Political Structure of Barak Valley", Truthfulsoldier (talk) 08:08, 25 January 2022 (UTC) Truthfulsoldier (talk) 14:24, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

@Truthfulsoldier: Okay. Now add them inline to the text you've added. If you're not sure how, see WP:REFBEGIN. NonsensicalSystem(error?)(.log) 14:26, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Okay I will try Truthfulsoldier (talk) 14:27, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your work 💐👍 213.143.61.107 (talk) 09:56, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Calling it lunar new year suggests that the new year is based on lunar calendar which is incorrect

It is scientifically incorrect to name it lunar new year as it is not from lunar calendar.

The Chinese calendar is a lunisolar system; and it is the origin of this specific festival.

The non-bias term for the day should refer to spring festival. 110.174.147.237 (talk) 10:27, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2022).

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  • The user group oversight will be renamed suppress in around 3 weeks. This will not affect the name shown to users and is simply a change in the technical name of the user group. The change is being made for technical reasons. You can comment in Phabricator if you have objections.
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Help Me A page has been edited which relates to the organisation I work for but which contains untrue and inappropriate information.

I have little to know knowledge of how Wikipedia works. I attempted to edit the page back to something more neutral but the edit ewas rejected. Please advise how I can correct the page to avoid further damage to the origanisation I work for. LMISU (talk) 14:33, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

@LMISU: I reverted your edits as they did not include a reliable source. New content added to Wikipedia almost always needs to be properly cited. If you're not sure how to do this, WP:REFB has some good guidance for beginners. Also, I noticed that you're editing for an organization that you work for. If this is the case, make sure to conform to the conflict of interest guidelines. NonsensicalSystem(error?)(.log) 09:37, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you - I hope I am finding the right way to reply to you - this is all very new for me. I will try to work out how to cite. I did note the origional entry, edited in Jan 22, cites very out of date material or the authors own privately publsihed works only. I presume if I cite external monderated and independent sources that would be acceptable? The ISU does not want to advertise or proseletyse through Wiki. Only to remove damaging and untrue content. I will try again - I appreciate the assistance and sorry for being so techno-daft!LMISU (talk) 09:42, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

@LMISU: Yes. If you can find newer or more reliable sources, feel free to add them. NonsensicalSystem(error?)(.log) 09:54, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Are you able to advise how I can deal with assertions that are simply not true? It is difficult to find a positive reference to something that is untrue. For example the ISU has never applied for memerbship of the TUC. The author says that it did in a book he has written; but this is inaccurate and I can't find a reference to suggest that the ISU did not becuase this simply did not happen. It is true that we were advised any such application would likely be refused; but no application was made. Can I say that without evdeince? This happened in 1985 - long before the internet!

I think I have managed this - the source cited was apparently "deprecated" so I have removed it. Hopefully this is OK now? LMISU (talk) 11:09, 8 February 2022 (UTC) LMISU (talk) 10:32, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

@LMISU: I don't have an awful lot of experience editing articles, but from what I saw it looks alright. Only problem that I noticed was that the references were bare urls, but that isn't major and can be fixed pretty easily by tools like citation bot. NonsensicalSystem(error?)(.log)

Thank you. Can I get to that in slow time or do I have to do that before the page is updated?LMISU (talk) 11:33, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

@LMISU: You run citation bot after you add the references. It can then fill out all of the necessary information for you. NonsensicalSystem(error?)(.log) 09:10, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2022).

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Mikhail Kizilov

Hello, you rejected my addition to the article about Mikhail Kizilov because I did not include "a reliable source". Well, I myself am Mikhail Kizilov - and I know that everything that included in this article was true. BTW: I really don't who made an entry about me and I am really happy to see it online.

Mikhail Kizilov — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.18.18.31 (talk) 14:49, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@195.18.18.31: Thank you for your edits. Unfortunately, I have no way of verifying if you are Mikhail Kizilov, so I have to ask if you have a source(s) for the information that you have added, as information coming from you directly would be considered original research and is against Wikipedia's policy. I'd recommend reading WP:AUTO#IFEXIST before proceeding. NonsensicalSystem(error?)(.log) 14:57, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Open Mike Productions

Hi there!

Please do not re-instate the Off the Kerb re-direct, Open Mike and Off the Kerb aren't the same company (I work for Open Mike)

Thanks! Hannah x — Preceding unsigned comment added by Changes1989 (talkcontribs) 09:53, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

@Changes1989: The article that you have created does not cite any sources, so I must decline your addition. It also appears that you are taking part in paid editing, which requires that certain steps be taken for you to be able to edit in a way that complies with policy. I have sent another message to your talk page on how to proceed. Thank you! NonsensicalSystem(error?)(.log) 09:57, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi,
Sorry, first timer here! I am not taking part in paid editing - I work for Open Mike Productions and the re-direct to Off The Kerb is incorrect, I am just trying to correct it. They are not the same company.
Should I create a new page for Open Mike? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! I added in a citation to an external website to show that Open Mike is a separate company but it has still been removed.
Thanks,
Hannah Changes1989 (talk) 10:13, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) regardless, you would need to check out the policy on conflict of interest editing, which applies to you since you work on Open Mike. it is best for people with a conflict of interest to request edits through the talk page instead of directly editing the page, to allow others to judge your edits and add them as neutrally as possible. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 10:21, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
thank you! I might be in touch again if I am totally lost hahah. xx Changes1989 (talk) 10:32, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
@Changes1989: You're going to have to find some sources first. The page referencing for beginners may help with that.
On the paid editing, it appears to me now that you have a conflict of interest instead. It is not advisable to directly create articles on your employers. The articles for creation process will help you in creating a new page, as it can be reviewed by more experienced editors before it is added. Thank you! NonsensicalSystem(error?)(.log) 10:22, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Thanks!
So I have added the paid editing - I am paid by Open Mike, but not for anything to do with Wikipedia, it's certainly not in my job description to be doing this!
I took a look a t the conflict of interest page, so I could perhaps just make a suggestion on the Off the Kerb page that they are not the same company and hope that someone edits it? I may also start a new page and submit it for review, with all the citations. i have also just seen melecie's comment, so it looks like I should go to the talk page and not directly edit, which is also helpful!
Thanks so much for all your help!
Hannah Changes1989 (talk) 10:32, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
@Changes1989: Yep, that's fine. Happy editing! NonsensicalSystem(error?)(.log) 09:15, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For your efforts in dealing with them vandals. Keep it up! Volten001 12:38, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
@Volten001: Thank you very much! NonsensicalSystem(error?)(.log) 09:14, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
You're most welcome Volten001 11:02, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2022).

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  • Access to Special:RevisionDelete has been expanded to include users who have the deletelogentry and deletedhistory rights. This means that those in the Researcher user group and Checkusers who are not administrators can now access Special:RevisionDelete. The users able to view the special page after this change are the 3 users in the Researcher group, as there are currently no checkusers who are not already administrators. (T301928)
  • When viewing deleted revisions or diffs on Special:Undelete a back link to the undelete page for the associated page is now present. (T284114)

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ok

idk how to do citations... i really don't think i was doing anything wrong there, considering that's largely the opinion of most people who know about the chicago blackhawks story involving him so — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.181.226.151 (talk) 18:58, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

@66.181.226.151; If you need help with citations, see referencing for beginners. Citing a source is an absolute requirement per Wikipedia's biography of living persons policy. If you need further help, feel free to message me. Thank you! NonsensicalSystem(error?)(.log) 08:15, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Regarding the page Jamshed Burjor Pardiwala

I have made this page on 5 May 2022. But you have deleted it for 3 times. I have tried to publish it for 3 times but you had deleted the page. The page was very important to be published because the person JB PARDIWALA is a Judge of Gujarat High Court and recently he was recommended for appointment as Judge of Supreme Court of India. I have added the details of my knowledge, I have not copied any thing from any website. Its a request to you to please do not delete the page as it is the page of an important person who may be appointed as Judge of Supreme Court of India. Ankit8968Soni (talk) 13:38, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ankit8968Soni: I am only concerned that you removed the copyvio template, which is why I reverted your change. I have no comment on the rest of the article, as I have not looked at it. NonsensicalSystem(error?)(.log) 13:41, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2022).

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New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022

 
 
New Page Review queue March 2022

Hello NonsensicalSystem,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 803 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 851 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.

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May 25th 2022

Hi I just want to put that edit there because I want to screenshot it after I log out of my Wikipedia account and then read the Guillotine page with those edits and then I will log back in and delete those edits, I promise. Ionchlannán (talk) 12:02, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

(by talk reader) @Ionchlannán: No, that's not allowable. This is an encyclopedia. We are not here for your amusement. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:03, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2022).

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  • Administrators using the mobile web interface can now access Special:Block directly from user pages. (T307341)
  • The IP Info feature has been deployed to all wikis as a Beta Feature. Any autoconfirmed user may enable the feature using the "IP info" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features. Autoconfirmed users will be able to access basic information about an IP address that includes the country and connection method. Those with advanced privileges (admin, bureaucrat, checkuser) will have access to extra information that includes the Internet Service Provider and more specific location.

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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

 
 
New Page Review queue June 2022

Hello NonsensicalSystem,

Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

Backlog drive

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here.   Barnstars will be awarded.

TIP – New school articles

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.

Misc

There is a new template available, {{NPP backlog}}, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:

Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 13211 articles, as of 16:00, 22 November 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.

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Notes
  1. ^ not including another ~6,000 redirects
  2. ^ The number of weekly reviews reported in the NPP feed includes redirects, which are not included in the backlog we primarily track.

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