User talk:Nedim Ardoğa/Archive 8

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Home Talk Contributions My Articles Awards Archive 5 Archive 6 Archive 7 Archive 8 Archive 9 Archive 10 → Archive 13 2013 And to you. Thanks for your very wise comments on the merge discussion and for your interest in this controversial area. Best. --E4024 (talk) 19:00, 2 January 2013 (UTC) Your pics There is a reference to your beautiful pics in my TP. I especially liked one of a Roman way in Turkey and another of a medieval korugan (cannot recall the English word now) that are outstanding. We have to use them in the related articles of En:WP (if we already have not, of course) and not only in Turkey-related articles... Selamlar. --E4024 (talk) 12:42, 9 January 2013 (UTC) Thanks for the compliment. I used almost all images in my articles in en:WP (I have three new additions today) . Unfortunatelly except for a few early images I couldn't use the them in tr:WP, because I experience the same fate as you in tr:WP. But I'd be happy to see these images used all versions of WP. (By the way, korugan is casemate and I used the image in Casemates of İbrahim Pasha). Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:50, 9 January 2013 (UTC) No compliment here. Very good pics. Congratulations! Please add that one to the gallery at Casemate and the Roman road pic to the Roman Empire or somewhere similar; it is an "israf" keeping these great pics at only Turkey-related articles... --E4024 (talk) 18:58, 9 January 2013 (UTC) Just the reverse. Most of these images are used in en:WP. But only a few of them are used in tr:WP. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 19:12, 9 January 2013 (UTC) Turkish language Hi, I've noticed your edits to the article on Turkish language and they seem fine. You should however be aware that the article is currently an FA but it is being considered for FA-review and if the review finds that it no longer meets the criteria it will be demoted. A lot of the content you have added is not sourced. For FA status to be retained it is crucial to increase the amount of sourcing in the article, there should be basically no paragraphs without an inline citation. Also material in tables needs to be sourced. I'd encourage you to keep that in mind as you edit the article, if you believe the article should retain its FA status. ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 14:35, 15 January 2013 (UTC) I am not running for the reward. I am trying to enrich the article. As the material needs some research, I need time to complete the paragraphs. I added a reference for the first subsection (about devoicing). But the second subsection (about tenses) is net complete yet. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 15:43, 15 January 2013 (UTC) You misunderstand, the article is already a featured article, which means that if your edits do not maintain the standard of sourcing required for featured article status it will loose that status soon. I am encouraging you to be cautious not to add unsourced material because doing so is not generally considered an improvement even if the article becomes more informative.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 15:49, 15 January 2013 (UTC) Well I don't want to be held resposible for the article losing status. Please check the two subsections (devoicing and tenses) and let me know if there are adequate or not. If you feel they are inadequate, I am ready to delete my contributions. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 19:54, 15 January 2013 (UTC) I think your additions look good, with two caveats, I think that it would be helpful if you formatted the references in the same way the rest of the references are formatted, 2. it would be best if you didn't use websites as a source but academically published books about the Turkish language. It is not a requirement that sources be in English, but generally it is preferred to use English sources if the same information is available.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 20:11, 15 January 2013 (UTC) See my TP also I made a good addition to the Turkic languages article the other day; but my edit was removed by a POV-pushing editor. You could also use that. I know that in WP there are many objective people to help... --E4024 (talk) 21:23, 15 January 2013 (UTC) Tunceli This is a mess. Can you add a proper infobox and decent sourced content?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 17:50, 16 January 2013 (UTC) Image Description Hey! I'm going through some images that are missing descriptions. I found File:DB table.jpg and I do not even know what the table is for. Could you help me out? Or if there isn't use we can nominate it for deletion. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 00:58, 17 January 2013 (UTC) It was one of the first images I've uploaded. It was a list of decibel values of ratios widely used in electronic and acoustics. I used it in one of my articles. But somebody deleted it from the article, claimimg it can be easily calculated by logarithms. I think a wikitable form may be more useful. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:45, 17 January 2013 (UTC) Neighbourhoods of Istanbul‎ Hi Nedim abi. Please feel free to contribute to the article. Have a nice day.--Rapsar (talk) 09:34, 17 January 2013 (UTC) Turkish women Nedim Abi, I "accept" that lately I have been writing Write instead of Right, Piece instead of Peace, Accept instead of Except etc. I think these and some other similar mistakes can be seen as I am getting old, Wright? I hope it is simply age, nothing else. BTW thanks for the beautiful Turkish women pics. I missed Mine Mutlu but that was my generation's idol... --E4024 (talk) 15:21, 24 January 2013 (UTC) We are all getting old. But cross checking will reduce the errors. The photo of your choice doesn't appear in Commons. But we badly need photos of women filling the gaps between Satı Kadın of 1935 and Fatma Girik of 1960s and also between Fatma Girik and Çağla Kubat of 2006. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 15:45, 24 January 2013 (UTC) Prof Abadan-Unat, Adalet Ağaoğlu gibi hanımların gençlik resimleri olsa... Bir de Prof Kuçuradi var ama o 1936 doğumlu, in the 50s she was a university student. None of these VIW have a pic in their articles; shame on us! Only Muazzez İlmiye Çığ has a pic in her article but not from the 50s, very recent one. I am sure you can help more in this area. Thanks for your very appreciated contributions. --E4024 (talk) 16:47, 24 January 2013 (UTC) Thanks again for your contributions to this article/area. I would love to have a Women in Turkish Parliament article, and maybe also Women in Turkish politics. The first one looks easier to build. If you can open that stub I will try to help. Thank you very much. --E4024 (talk) 13:46, 25 January 2013 (UTC) Done. See Women in Turkish parliament. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:03, 25 January 2013 (UTC) File:DB table.jpg listed for deletion A file that you uploaded or altered, File:DB table.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 19:23, 24 January 2013 (UTC) 16 beyliks Hi again, Your remark about the beyliks in Talk:Historic states represented in Turkish presidential seal is interesting. It shouldn't be lost in the talk page. If you can source your claim, why don't you add a section (maybe triva) about it ? Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 16:56, 25 January 2013 (UTC) Hi. That is not my claim, but sourced fact. P.S. The title Women in Turkish parliament is very strange. Secretaries, tea deliverers who are working in the Grand National Assembly of Turkey are also involved ? Mesela "Female deputies to the Grand National Assembly of Turkey" gibi basliklar daha mantikli. Calismanizi bitirince halledelim. Takabeg (talk) 01:27, 26 January 2013 (UTC) P.S.'nin P.S.si : ) Your name was mentioned here. Takabeg (talk) 01:30, 26 January 2013 (UTC) Replies for the above comments: Historic states represented in Turkish presidential seal: I did't say it was not a fact. Only I'don't have a source about it and asked you to add the fact (which you've done). Women in Turkish Parliament: Actually I didn't plan and prepare for the article. I only helped another user to start it. (You can see the message above) Thanks for your contribution in Wikimedia. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:10, 26 January 2013 (UTC) Reword ? About this edits: Reword doesn't mean removal of sourced information. Please try again without loss of information. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 09:36, 1 February 2013 (UTC) By now you should have known me. I don't like to delete information. I keep your wording in the talk. Of course you can add the data in a section e.g., "Former discussions about the stars " etc. But I don't think that data had a place in the lede. Cheers.Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 09:48, 1 February 2013 (UTC) Women in Turkish politics Nedim Bey, I asked contribution from "girl power" for the article you have been working on. Here is what I have got: "Hi! It looks like your new article is shaping up great. I'm impressed! If I could offer a couple suggestions, it looks like the background section could do with some expansion and a couple of citations. I also think it would be awesome if you could give some details on the female government ministers beyond their office and years in service, for example, what their projects were in office, what their party affiliation was, what reforms they enacted, etc. I really like the tables, that's great for showing the trend over history. Let me know if you want a copyedit, review, anything. Good luck and great job!" I share this comment with you not only for the useful suggestions but also for the beautiful words therein, that you have deserved more than me. Best. --E4024 (talk) 16:46, 4 February 2013 (UTC) Mehmet Sadık Pasha A tag has been placed on Mehmet Sadık Pasha, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to a nonexistent page. If you can fix this redirect to point to an existing Wikipedia page, please do so and remove the speedy deletion tag. However, please do not remove the speedy deletion tag unless you also fix the redirect. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Camyoung54 talk 03:26, 6 February 2013 (UTC) Turkish women in sports Nedim Bey, bizim böyle bir maddemiz yok mu? WP sayfalarında birçok kadın sporcumuz ve kadın spor takımımız var oysa. Büyük eksiklik... --E4024 (talk) 16:40, 7 February 2013 (UTC) You can start the page. I'll help to expand. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 20:29, 7 February 2013 (UTC) Memnuniyetle ama ben daha resim yüklemeyi bile bilmiyorum. --E4024 (talk) 20:41, 7 February 2013 (UTC) I did it! Here: Turkish women in sports Good. I'll also call another contributer who has contributed much to Turkish sports people. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 20:56, 7 February 2013 (UTC) I did not know it was so easy. (I opened another article before but always thought it was by mistake. :-) We should begin with making a pic album of individuals and teams and add WLs to their proper articles. I know a user who will find out that the first Turkish woman who participated in a sports event was an Armenian... :-) --E4024 (talk) 21:12, 7 February 2013 (UTC) Pics Women in Turkish politics sayfasına H. Edip resmi koyup Turkish women sayfasından onu veya Osmanlı gravürünü çıkarıp yerine Muazzez İ. Ç. pic koysak... --E4024 (talk) 16:40, 7 February 2013 (UTC) Latife - Turkish women da iyi bir eşleşme. --E4024 (talk) 16:44, 7 February 2013 (UTC) split proposal for Aqueduct I note your contribution to Talk:Aqueduct and I would like to bring to your attention a proposal that the article Aqueduct be split to Aqueduct (watercourse) and Aqueduct (bridge), with the original article directed to the existing page Aqueduct (disambiguation). Please feel welcome to comment on the proposal at Talk:Aqueduct#Split proposal (2) Please note a similar proposal was made a couple of years ago (see about halfway up the talk page).Nankai (talk) 21:03, 10 February 2013 (UTC) Aziziye Hello, as a new user I simply was browsing "Random Articles" looking for something to practice my editing skills and your article popped up. --Mary2315 (talk) 21:49, 10 February 2013 (UTC) Admin Help at Kanijeli Siyavuş Pasha Hello Nedim Ardoğa. On the above page I saw you requested it to be deleted for a move using the adminhelp template. I brought this to the attention of an administrator quicker by contacting them directly who have now deleted the page. In future I recommend you use the {{db-move}} in future. Happy editing! John F. Lewis (talk) 20:05, 16 February 2013 (UTC) Canik Canik adı Türkçe değildir. Çani/Can/Zan/Tzan/Sanni = Laz anlamındadır. Doğu Romalılar, Doğu Karadeniz'e "Tzanike" demiştir. Tıpkı İstanbul, Adana, İzmir, Bursa, Trabzon gibi adların Türkçe olmaması gibi, Canik adı da Türkçe değildir. Ancak Anadolu Beylikleri dönemindeki Canik Beylikleri Türktür. O tarihten itibaren bu bölge Türktür. Canik Beylikleri = Beyliks of Canik maddesini yazmanız iyi olmuş. Ben Laz değil, Türküm. Sanırım bu maddenin varlığına bile karşı çıkmışlar! Talk/Tartışma sayfasında okudum. Wikipedia'da Türklüğe karşı sistematik bir saldırı var! Canik ve Beyliks of Canik maddelerinin Talk/Tartışma sayfalarında ben sadece bölgenin Eskiçağ Tarihinden ve Canik adının kökeninden bahsettim. Laz propagandası yapmadım. Dediğim gibi nasıl İstanbul-Adana-İzmir-Bursa-Trabzon adları Türkçe değilse, Canik adı da Türkçe değildir ama artık buraları çoktan Türkleşmiştir. Bulduğum Canik Beylerinin adlarını da Beyliks of Canik maddesine ekledim... Saygılarımla, Böri (talk) 12:24, 27 February 2013 (UTC) Katkınız için teşekkürler. Maddenin varlığına karşı çıkmış değiller. Ama kaynak gösteremediğim için etiketlendi. Şayet güvenilir bir kaynağınız varsa, ekleyin. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:56, 27 February 2013 (UTC) Diğer dillerdeki Wikipedialarda geçmemesi çok normal. Amerikalılar-Avrupalılar, Canik Türk Beyliklerinin tarihini çok mu iyi biliyorlar sanki? Ben, bulabildiğim hükümdar adlarını Yılmaz Öztuna'nın "Devletler ve Hanedanlar" adlı eserinin II.Cildinden yazdım. Ayrıca Uzunçarşılı'nın eserinin giriş bölümünde Anadolu Beyliklerinden bahesediyor... Oraya da bakmak lazım. Böri (talk) 15:05, 27 February 2013 (UTC) Kaynaklarınız ciddi. Refererans verirseniz memnun olurum. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 15:07, 27 February 2013 (UTC) Dediğim gibi, "Devletler ve Hanedanlar" (II.Cilt, sayfa:86-87 - Yılmaz Öztuna, Kültür Bakanlığı yayını 1996)Böri (talk) 15:15, 27 February 2013 (UTC) Note: This message in Turkish is about the contributions and tags in the article Beyliks of Canik Map of Beyliks of Canik on Anatolian beyliks article, the map shows the Beyliks of Canik. You can use this map, I mean. Regards, Böri (talk) 08:55, 28 February 2013 (UTC) Kaç Kaç Olayı Merhaba, bu maddeyi Türkçeye çevrilebilir misiniz? SAS'a çıkartılan şu konu ile bağlantılı olabileceği Takabeg tarafından söylendi. Açıklamanız aydınlatıcı olacaktır. Saygılar --Esc2003 (talk) 17:14, 3 March 2013 (UTC) Türkçe VP de blokeliyim. Ama verdiğim kaynakların dördü Türkçe on-line kaynaklar. Bunlardan yararlanabilirsiniz. Bu olayın Kozan olayı ile ilgisi yok. Hem tarih hem de yer farklı. İyi çalışmalar.Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 19:20, 3 March 2013 (UTC) Note: Above message in Turkish is an invitation about translation of the en:Kaç Kaç incident. Beyliks of Canik There is still: This article does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (October 2010) message on that article! May I delete it? Böri (talk) 09:51, 4 March 2013 (UTC) Since that message was written by you, I guess there won't be a problem in reverting the message. But it'll still appear in the history. So I don't suggest deleting it completely. If you think something is wrong with the message, you can correct it. As for the sources, you're welcome to add your sources. If you have a problem with properly citing, let me know . Happy editting. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:01, 4 March 2013 (UTC) Now, I deleted that meaningless-message! (note: Of course, I didn't write it!!!) They wanted to delete all of the article and they put that message. They were saying: "No source!" etc. but we found the source. And they were saying that they couldn't find anything about this article on other Wikipedias. This is normal! Because they don't know the Turkish History very much!!!(Btw, do they like the Turkish History? Do they like the Turks? I don't think so!) Regards, Böri (talk) 10:38, 4 March 2013 (UTC) About The Sun Language Theory Sun Language Theory = Nostratic languages / Türkçe devam ediyorum: Güneş Dil Teorisi'ne sürekli saldırılıyor ama artık günümüzde Nostratik Dil Ailesinin varlığı bilimsel olarak kabulediliyor. Altay dilleri, Ural dilleri ve Hint-Avrupa dilleri arasında ortak kökenli sözcükler var... Türk-Sumer dilleri arasında da ortak kökenli sözcükler var. Atatürk bunun araştırılmasını istiyordu. Başkalarının yaptığı uydurmacılık için Atatürk eleştirilemez! Bu konuda Borean languages ve Eurasiatic languages maddelerine de bakılabilir... Böri (talk) 15:13, 4 March 2013 (UTC) Türkçe Vikipedi'ye baktım da, Güneş-dil teorisi maddesine; "Örneğin Niagara şelalesinin ismini alış hikayesi çok ilginçtir. Bering boğazı yoluyla Amerika kıtasına geçen Türkler (sonradan Kızılderili olarak adlandırılacaklardır) kıtayı keşfe başlarlar. Bir müddet ilerledikten sonra önlerine korkunç gürültüler çıkaran bir şelale çıkar. Bu durumdan çok etkilenen Türkler "ne yaygara! ne yaygara!" derler. Zamanla "ne yaygara" yerini Niagara'ya bırakır.[10] Başka bir örnek de şöyledir. Kıta keşfine devam eden Türk boyları Güney Amerika'ya kadar gelmişlerdir. Burda ucu bucağı olmayan bir nehir görürler ve tüm çabalara rağmen sonunu bir türlü bulamazlar. Hayretler içinde kalıp "amma uzun!" demişler. Zamanla bu "amma uzun", Amazon'a dönüşmüştür.[10]" yazmışlar... (Kaynak olarak da, Maydan Larousse, Büyük Lugat ve Ansiklopedi, Güneş Dil Teorisi maddesi demişler...) Meydan Larousse'da böyle bir şey kesinlikle yok! Kesinlikle dalga geçmek için yazılmış... Türkçe Vikipedi doğru-düzgün bir ansiklopedi değil! (Acayip insanların elinde olduğu için!) Böri (talk) 12:53, 12 March 2013 (UTC) Haklısınız. tr-WP de bir admine bildirdim. Selamlar Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:54, 12 March 2013 (UTC) Note:Above message is about the article Nostratic languages. The correspondent remarks about certain sections of the article. Theodore Makridi In the article Theodore Makridi, he was identified as Greek-Ottoman-Turkish. I think Ottoman is OK, but Greek-Turkish adjectives are redundant (unless a section on his origin is included.) Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 16:58, 4 March 2013 (UTC) Normally I would be content with "Ottoman". However, mark that he died in 1940, retired in 1930 from Istanbul Archaeological Museum, therefore he was Turkish, too. For that reason I think we should better keep "Turkish". He also worked in Athens in 1930's but I do not know if he became a Greek citizen, apart from his ethnically being Greek. If there had been a Greek archaeologist of Turkish ethnicity, would you say he was Turkish? Filanca (talk) 17:33, 4 March 2013 (UTC) Turkish alphabet Turkish alphabet maddesi geçmişte saçma sapandı! Türkçe sesler için abuk sabuk örnekler vermişlerdi. Sonradan değiştirmişler ama Talk sayfasında 2 yıl önce yaptığım itiraz duruyor: Sounds: examples must be short and clear! it says: "ç = As ch in chimpanzee" /why chimpanzee? chalk will be better! bobblehead, dillydally, gargoyle, shenanigans, vivacious, internationality for "L" sound! Are you joking? Please find better examples! Who wrote them? Why shenanigans? You can easily say: "ş = As sh in she" Please change them! Böri (talk) 14:03, 22 December 2010 (UTC)/ demişim... Wikipedia'da Türk diline ve tarihine yönelik çok sayıda saldırı vardı. Bunu örnek olarak gösteriyorum... Yüzlerce vardı. Kasıt ve kötü niyet vardı! Saygılar, Böri (talk) 10:36, 6 March 2013 (UTC) Herşey kötü niyetli olmayabilir. İyi bilmeyen biri yanlış örnek vermiş olabilir. Bakarız, gerekirse düzeltiriz. Selamlar Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 11:36, 6 March 2013 (UTC) Note: Above message is a request about checking examples in the article Turkish alphabet. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 11:36, 6 March 2013 (UTC) Janet Akyüz Mattei Hi Nedim! I have renamed cat:"Turkish women academicians" to "Turkish women academics" as common in WP. However, I saw at "Janet Akyüz Mattei" article no ref that she was an academic. So, I removed that cat. However, you have reinstated the previous cat of "Turkish women academicians". In order to be sure I wanna know what you understand under "academican". Thanks for your time. CeeGee 08:27, 10 March 2013 (UTC) The cat was nominated to be deleted. (See Category talk:Turkish women academicians) So I populated it. As for Janet Mattei, I don't know much about her. You're welcome to drop her name from the cat list. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:50, 10 March 2013 (UTC) Amazon Amma uzun Güneş-dil teorisi maddesinde tr:Güneş-dil teorisi#Kelimelerin doğuşuyla ilgili varsayımlar paragrafı bu teoriyle alay etmek isteyenlerin verdiği örneklerle dolu. Gözden geçirmek istemez misiniz ? Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:49, 12 March 2013 (UTC) Note:Above message is about an article in tr:WP. bakıyorum. teşekkürler. --Kibele (talk) 15:59, 12 March 2013 (UTC) Ottoman palaces in Istanbul Hi Nedim Ardoğa. The table which you two times tried to add, has many mistakes. Just compare informations of the table with the articles (Aynalıkavak Palace etc.). Also most of the palaces isn't palace but pavilion.( See National Palaces)--Qara Khan 16:11, 19 March 2013 (UTC) If you feel there are errors in the article you're welcome to fix them. But you can't delete a table w/o reason. Besides both the relevant articles in WP and the English source [1] you refer to name all these buildings as palace. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 16:33, 19 March 2013 (UTC) Drogheda United Sürekli rahatsız etmiyorsam, şu konuya da değinmek istiyorum; Vikipedi'den: İrlanda Premier Ligi'nde mücadele eden Drogheda United takımının ambleminde ay ve yıldız bulunmaktadır. Bir süre önce Türkiye'ye resmi ziyaret gerçekleştiren İrlanda Cumhurbaşkanı Mary McAleese, 1847 yılında bir milyon İrlandalı'nın hayatını kaybettiği Büyük Açlık Dönemi'nde Osmanlı Devleti'nin içi gıda dolu 3 gemisini Drogheda limanına gönderdiğini hatırlatarak, İrlanda halkı bu eşine az rastlanır bonkörlük girişimini asla unutmadı ve bunun sonucunda sizin bayrağınızdaki semboller, bu güzel yıldız ve hilali bölgenin sembolü haline getirdiler. Hatta futbol takımının formalarının üzerinde de bu güzel Türk sembollerini görüyoruz demişti. Ancak kulüp tarihçileri bu konuyu kesinlikle red etmişler ve hatta McAleese'nin sempatik görünmek için uydurduğunu iddia etmişlerdir. / Benim yorumum: Koskoca İrlanda Cumhurbaşkanı kabulediyor. Vikipedi'dekiler yalan uydurdu diyor!!! İrlanda Cumhurbaşkanı doğrusunu bilmiyor da, bunlar mı biliyor? Bu küçük bir örnek... Bütün Wikipedia-Vikipedi maddeleri böyle! / from Drogheda article: A local myth has it that the star and crescent were included in the town arms after the Ottoman Empire (predecessor to the Republic of Turkey) sent ships laden with food to Drogheda during the Irish famine. However, there are no records of this with the Drogheda Port, and the star and crescent predate the famine. However, a recent letter was found which was written by the Irish merchandises explicitly thanked the Ottoman Sultan for their help. The letter was found at the Turkish archive. The researcher states that Ireland has not such a letter due to the fire that occurred in the 20th century and destroyed all the documents in the library. / Gerçi Ay-Yıldız; Drogheda ambleminde Osmanlı yardımından da once vardı diyor ama İngiliz ve İrlandalılar da gerçekleri gizlemiş olabilir... Sonuçta İrlanda Cumhurbaşkanı kabuletti! Saygılar, Böri (talk) 13:02, 22 March 2013 (UTC) Estağrurullah, Rahatsızlık söz konusu değil. Ama şayet ciddi bir kaynağınız varsa gerekli düzeltmeyi yapabilirsiniz. Kaynak bulursam ben de ilgilenirim. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 15:22, 22 March 2013 (UTC) Note: The above message in Turkish is about the emblem of an Irısh football team with resembles the Turkish flag. Po Beg#Triva Hi Nedim! I had removed the subsection header "Triva" (it should be "Trivia" anyway), because of WP:TRIVIA. For your information only. CeeGee 17:14, 7 April 2013 (UTC) Thanks for warning me about the spelling of trivia. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:04, 7 April 2013 (UTC) Hisar Hi Nedim Ardoğa, It is always a pleasure to see you here. Regarding hisar, all Serbian language sources which deal with this name translate it either as town (vast majority) or hill. I guess that in the 15th century all towns had to be forts if they meant to survive. Do your sources tell different story?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 23:05, 8 April 2013 (UTC) Talkback Hello, Nedim Ardoğa. You have new messages at AxG's talk page. Message added 18:47, 11 April 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 18:47, 11 April 2013 (UTC) Tardu comment Nedim, thank you for the Tardu correction. Tardu was a title, from the Tardu Kanat = Western (Right) Wing, there were numerous Tardus in the various Kaganates during the years, not all of their proper names are known, but in this case we know both name and position. It makes sense to run the article under his name, not the title, consistent with all other personal articles, and have Tardu (or Tardush) as a disambiguation page or a separate article page listing people who headed the Western Wing in different states. I would gladly contribute to such arrangement. Your thoughts? BTW, Turkic pages have greatly improved from 5-7 years ago, when they were unloved siblings of loved subjects, and your efforts and stamina in that are greatly appreciated. Barefact (talk) 16:10, 17 April 2013 (UTC) Thanks for the compliments. I'm happy to see you being still with us. Because Turkic history needs many many contributions and (like whole Central Asia Project) there aren't many contributors. (By the way do you have sources about Turksanf, Tardu's younger brother ?) Cheers and happy editing. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 16:48, 17 April 2013 (UTC) Yes, I do have some, they are incidental, because I do not follow individual personalities. How do you want me to pass over what I have? Barefact (talk) 17:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC) You can edit the article Turksanf. (Birth and death dates,successors, relation to Tardu etc.) Cheers Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 17:59, 17 April 2013 (UTC) Requested move Hi Nedim, as I said in the close here, Darkwind closed that the template be moved to that title. Does it not make sense to move the article too? I can certainly undo the close and move the article back, but only if you think the outcome might (realistically) be different. You can respond here, by the way, if you prefer. SlimVirgin (talk) 23:32, 25 April 2013 (UTC) Closing the discussion and moving the title are two different things. You can see that somebody proposed moving and I opposed it. No other remarks, no consensus. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 06:36, 26 April 2013 (UTC) There was a request on WP:AN/RFC to close it because the other one had been closed by Darkwind as move. Would you like to me to undo the move and re-open the discussion? SlimVirgin (talk) 23:49, 26 April 2013 (UTC) Hi Nedim, I've reversed the move and re-opened the discussion. Best, SlimVirgin (talk) 03:37, 27 April 2013 (UTC) Thanks. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:18, 27 April 2013 (UTC) Executed Ottoman people vs. Executed Turkish people May I ask why you were removing Category:Executed Turkish people from Ottoman people who were Turkish? Category:Executed Ottoman people is not currently a subcategory of Category:Executed Turkish people, so it would make sense for a Ottoman person who was Turkish to be in both categories. --Nlu (talk) 15:10, 27 April 2013 (UTC) (Unless, of course, you think that Category:Executed Ottoman people should in fact be a subcategory of Category:Executed Turkish people — and I'd like your thoughts on that.) --Nlu (talk) 15:18, 27 April 2013 (UTC) f course you may ask. You can see that there were at least three or four categories for execution. xx century executions, people executed by Ottoman Emp., executed Ottoman people, executed Turks (Albanians, Serbs etc.) Isn't this overdone ? Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 15:30, 27 April 2013 (UTC) Well, we have these categories because people may have multiple identities, and the theory (I realize that in practice it may be messy) is that it helps readers locate articles properly and ascertain the identities quickly. Of course, it can get out of hand (see, e.g., Thomas More), but I do think that categorization is in general a helpful thing. --Nlu (talk) 15:36, 27 April 2013 (UTC) Yakup II Hello, Nedim Ardoğa. You have new messages at Gomada's talk page. Message added 07:13, 7 May 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Ottoman periods I saw the improvements and changes you did with the Ottoman Empire period dates. I would just like to draw your attention to two articles that you probably missed: History of the Ottoman Empire and Ottoman Empire (history section). Those articles still have the old dates. Could you fix those too? Thanks King Philip V of Spain (talk) 16:30, 7 May 2013 (UTC) Thanks for the suggestion. But those articles are too involved to be fixed by a simple copy and paste method. (You see I hate to clear out fellow contributors' edits.) Anyway, I'll fix them in the near future. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 19:56, 7 May 2013 (UTC) Historian or not Hi Nedim. Why don't you just open Mr Latsistalis' Facebook page to see where he was educated –if at all!– and the quality of its written Greek, if you might have it chequed? In any case, Nikos Latsistalis, even if his intentions are not bad, is not a historian. He misleads the visitors of Drama because he is not able to discern between an aquaduct and a real bridge and cannot understand that "Drama Köprüsü" is a bridge that could exist only in Drama itself and not 16 kilometres away from it, in the village of Nustretli (Gk. Nikeforos), birthplace of Emineh Hanem Ali Shehirli (1770-1824). My interference in the Wikipedia discussion on "Drama Köprüsü" was only aiming to inform people inerested in the bridge of Drama that Mr Ltsistalis, a very successful Drama "kebabci" indeed, is neiter a historian by any means, not a trustworthy tour guide. A word to the wise is enough! I shall not trouble anybody again with my "vandalisms". Cordially, Nonnamer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nonnamer (talk • contribs) 10:32, 6 June 2013 (UTC) Hi Nonnamer, I don't know why you're angry ? I didn't accuse you for vandalism. (If you watch the history of the page you can see that I am not the one who reverted your edits.) You insistently edited about Mr.Nikos Latsistalis' profession and all I did was to ask for a source. In my sources he is portrayed as a local historian and this does not contradict with him being a kebap restaurant owner. Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 11:21, 6 June 2013 (UTC) Sorry Nedim. I am not angry. I am just trying to inform public. And you are absolutely right. All this has nothing to do with Mr Latsistalis' profession. It has only to do with his incompetence. Nonnamer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nonnamer (talk • contribs) 12:55, 6 June 2013 (UTC) Barnstar Hi Nedim Ardoğa! Thanks a lot for sending me the barnstar. Cheers. CeeGee 18:34, 9 June 2013 (UTC) Merhaba Merhaba; Türkçe vikipedi'de beni ısırdılar. Zaman buldukça burada takılıyorum. Saygılar. Aditdigo (talk) 10:08, 25 June 2013 (UTC) Geçmiş olsun. Benim de başımdan geçti. Ama burada daha yararlı olduğumu sanıyorum. Happy editting. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:49, 25 June 2013 (UTC) Note Above is a welcome message. A barnstar for you! The Original Barnstar Thank you very much for great effort about Turkish history arcticals. MakeMeBad (talk) 16:30, 27 June 2013 (UTC) Akdeniz Oyunları Selamlar. Mersin'de yaşıyorsunuz sanırım. Akdeniz Oyunları ile ilgili resimler çekebilmeniz mümkün müdür?--Rapsar (talk) 08:44, 2 July 2013 (UTC) Çektim. Commons'ta sayfamda var. Ayrıca 2013 Mediterranean Games sayfasında da galeri oluşturdum. Daha ekleme yapacağım. Selamlar Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:51, 2 July 2013 (UTC) Oyunlar bitmiş bile, haberim yok :) Neyse, teşekkürler. Bir de Nevin Yanıt Athletics Complex'in kapasitesi 3.271 olmalı, Tr. Vikide kaynakla beraber verdim.--Rapsar (talk) 16:40, 2 July 2013 (UTC) O maddeyi User:CeeGee hazırlamış. 4500 rakamı da onun. Selamlar Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 16:44, 2 July 2013 (UTC) Note. The above message is about photos of 2013 Mediterranean Games. Koridor Coal Mine Hi there Nedim Ardoğa and thank you for your interest into my article. If you look into the ref that i provided on page 14 there is a map with the Afsin-Elbistan coal district and there you will find the 6 coal field mines that i added including the Koridor one. Thanks again and good editing.BineMai 10:00, 4 July 2013 (UTC) Ottoman-Persian War (1821-1823) I would like your opinion for the result of this war. On the talk page you will find my source, "A Global Chronology of Conflict: From the Ancient World to the Modern Middle East", Vol.III, ed. Spencer C. Tucker, (ABC-CLIO, 2010), 1140., which states the Treaty of Erzurum and "status quo antebellum" as the result of this war and User:Someguy1122's opinion that the war was a "Tactical Persian victory". Thank you.--Kansas Bear (talk) 21:46, 7 July 2013 (UTC) Want to work together on Turks in the Tang military? I remember your contributions to Tang campaigns against the Western Turks. Would you be interested in working together on Turks in the Tang military? I want to nominate the article for DYK, and would appreciate your expertise on Turkic history. Turkic culture substantially influenced Chinese culture, and many of the emperors of the Tang dynasty were Turkophiles, something that isn't popularly known. For a while, a drink made of yogurt imported by the Turks even replaced tea as the most popular drink in northern China. Best regards,--Typing General (talk) 03:20, 25 July 2013 (UTC) I've read some of your articles. Thanks for your efforts. I myself have created some articles about Turkic history. But I am afraid I don't have sources about Tang history apart from occasional references in Turkic history. Still I'll check if I can be helpful. Happy editing. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:18, 25 July 2013 (UTC) Please support this edit. Please support at least the substance of this edit: [[2]] if it is rejected. Chrisrus (talk) 03:31, 6 August 2013 (UTC) Category:Mediterranean Games host cities Category:Mediterranean Games host cities, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. DexDor (talk) 04:10, 9 August 2013 (UTC) Suggestion Hi, I am not good at your beautiful language Turkish so I am asking you if you could do a short translation and make an article about Meral Tasbas on Turkish Wikipedia. She is a Swedish-Turkish television personality. If you got the time at some point. Or if you happen to know any media adventures she has done in Turkey please add it to the English Wikipedia article too. Thank you.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:29, 24 August 2013 (UTC) I am not editing in tr WP. But I sent your request to an editor in tr WP. Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 09:18, 26 August 2013 (UTC) List of massacres in Turkey Hello, I am writing this to you in order to inform you that some Turkish-related articles have for quite some time been hijacked by a group of editors whose only goal, it seems, is to negatively portray the Republic of Turkey, its predesseccors and its people as warmongerming murderers. This has especially become a problem in the article of List of massacres in Turkey where they only allow information about Turks killing others, and delete all reliabely sourced information about massacres against Turks/Muslims. By doing WP:OR, discrediting sources and authors, source falsification, distortion and tag bombing. Sources which state the number of Muslims casualties during the Greco-Turkish war is persistently being deleted. Your help is needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.178.77.28 (talk) 20:17, 26 August 2013 (UTC) Category:Bozcaada Category:Bozcaada, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. DexDor (talk) 04:51, 27 August 2013 (UTC) re: your request The verb "leave" would be fine to use. The verb "renounce" indicates they dislike being associated with the former group's ideas. You could also say they "split off" from the former group to start their own party. Hope this helps. -LilHelpa (talk) 13:45, 18 September 2013 (UTC) Thanks. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 17:03, 18 September 2013 (UTC) Taurus Mountains Hey Nedim, I noticed that you always write "Toros Mountains" when talking about the Taurus Mountains, which is the Turkish name for them. Could you refer to them with their English name in future articles? Thanks! Cheers. Ithinkicahn (talk) 03:26, 30 September 2013 (UTC) Except for compound names, I always prefer English words (mountains instead of dağları etc.) But Toros is a proper noun and it should be used in original form. (Even in Britannica Atlas it is Toros and not Taurus) Besides In WP you can use any name provided that the link is correctly targetted (which is the case with Taurus Mountains) Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 09:16, 30 September 2013 (UTC) Honestly, I've never heard anyone use "Toros" as the proper noun in English. A lot of things are proper nouns but have their own English version. I think everyone would agree to that. Ithinkicahn (talk) 13:58, 30 September 2013 (UTC) In WP there are two types of foreign names. For names which have constituted an established usage in English, the English version is preferred. For others (who knows anything about Toros except for the academicians) the editors follow the conventions of the language appropriate to the subject. See WP. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:28, 30 September 2013 (UTC) Not sure how "Taurus Mountains" isn't an established usage in English. That's the way it's always referred to. I live in the United States, and that's the way it's always used. Never have I once encountered anything other than that. Ithinkicahn (talk) 18:48, 30 September 2013 (UTC) As a rule proper nouns are untranslatable (except those with international reputation and constitute an established usage). Well a mountain range in Turkey can't have an established usage in English. (You may have observed that most Americans don't even know exactly where Turkey is on the map). Now please check these names; Babička Gora, Großer Hundstod and Făgăraș Mountains all of which have been written in the local languages. I see you're quite industrious. Why don't you begin creating new articles instead of changing the names ? Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:25, 1 October 2013 (UTC) Just because those names are directly referred to as their names in their native languages doesn't make Taurus Mountains suddenly unestablished in the English language. And thank you, but I seem to have plenty of work cleaning up the wreckage you've left behind, so that's work enough. Ithinkicahn (talk) 07:40, 1 October 2013 (UTC) Valide sultan Sayın Vikiyazar, Türkçe ansiklopedide, tr:Valide sultanlar listesi maddesine büyük katkıda bulunduğunuzu gördüm. Ellerinize sağlık. Ancak bu maddede bir tanım eksikliği var. Valide sultan mutlaka padişahın biyolojik annesi anlamına gelmez. Valide sultan oğlu tahta geçtikten sonra haremi yöneten kadındır. Bu sebepten oğlunun tahta geçmesinden önce vefat edenler, Valide sultan ünvanını alamazlar. Mesela belki de en ünlü anne olan Hürrem, oğlu Selim II tahta geçneden once öldüğü için Valide sultan değildi. Maddeyi bu açıdan imceleyebilir misiniz ? (Ben maalesef Türkçe Viki'de blokeli olduğumdan İngilizce WP'deyim.) İyi çalışmalar. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:58, 8 June 2013 (UTC) Note:Above message in Turkish is about an article in tr:WP which was interlinked to the corresponding article in en:WP. Nedim bey, yazdıklarınıza katılıyorum. Aslında maddede sizi rahatsız eden konuları ben de maddede not etmişim zaten. Örneğin Hürrem Sultan'ın adının yanında verilen Not 1 Hürrem Sultan'ın oğlu tahta geçmeden önce vefat ettiği için Valide Sultan olamadığını belirtiyor. Ayrıca tr:Kategori:Osmanlı padişah anneleri ve tr:Kategori:Osmanlı Valide sultanları kategorinin bu farkı doğru olarak belirttiğini göreceksiniz. Ancak sonuç olarak maddenin adının maddenin içeriğini tam doğru yansıtmadığı konusunda haklısınız. Maddenin adı padişah anneleri şeklinde değiştirilirse itirazım olmaz. Selamlar. ---Vikiyazar (talk) 20:31, 30 September 2013 (UTC) Rename Please see my proposal to speedily rename Category:10th century Turkic people to Category:10th-century Turkic people Hugo999 (talk) 22:36, 11 October 2013 (UTC) No objection.Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:31, 12 October 2013 (UTC) Reşit Galip Sayın Yzkoc, Türkçe WP de tr:Reşit Galip maddesini geliştirmişsiniz , ellerinize sağlık. Ancak 15 Temmuz 2013 tarihinde yaptığınız değişiklikte soyadlı ismini Mustafa Reşit Baydur olarak vermişsiniz. Oysa soyadı yasası Reşit Galip'in ölümünden sonradır. (Ölüm 5 Mart, yasa 2 Temmuz) Ben bu maddeyi İngilizce WP de yazdığım için karşılaştırırken dikkatimi çekti. İyi çalışmalar. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 15:51, 20 October 2013 (UTC) Note: Above message in Turkish is about a date disagreement in tr WP. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 15:51, 20 October 2013 (UTC) Merhaba, Dr.Reşit Galip'in TBMM albümünde yer alan biyografisinde Mustafa Reşit Baydur ismide yer almaktadır. ([3]) Şöyle bir not düşülmüş: MERNIS’ten çıkarılan vukuatlı nüfus kayıt örneginde kendisinin soyadı almadıgı, oglunun “Baymur”, bir kızının ”Baynur”, diger kızının ise “Baydur” soyadını tasıdıgı görülmüstür. (Sayfa 229 dip not 31). Bilgilerinize.battalgazi (talk) 09:00, 21 October 2013 (UTC) Teşekkürler Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 20:37, 21 October 2013 (UTC) Turk/Osmanli muzigi verilerinin girilmesi Nedim Bey ilginiz icin cok tesekkur ederim. Elimde yuzlerce bestekar icin kisa notlar ve bilgiler var. Bunlarin internet uzerinden ulasilir olmasi bence onemli ancak wikipedia girislerini yaptigimda siliniyorlar. Benim bu kisa bilgileri genisletmek ve wikipedia'nin inceliklerini ogrenmek icin ayirabilecegim zamanim yok. Girisleri yapmaktan vazgecmeyi dusunuyorum. Ne dersiniz? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BarisBozkurtBahcesehir (talk • contribs) 09:11, 25 October 2013 (UTC) WP de madde silmeyi marifet sayanlar var. Aldırmayın. Türkiye ile ilgili editör sayımız zaten çok az Vaz geçmeyin. Yalnız yazılarınızda kaynak gösterin. (Yaşayan kişilerle ilgili maddeler kaynak yoksa siliniyor.) Yazılı veya online kaynak gösterebilirsiniz. Gerçi kaynak gösteriyorsunuz ama pek WP usulu değil.Wikipedia:Citing sources maddesini inceleyin. Özetlersek, kaynak yazının sonunda değil, içinde gösterilmeli. Bunun için yazı içinde iki adet ref tag arasına Kaynağınızı yazın (On line kaynaklar için adres çubuğundaki adres.) Madde bitiminde references diye bir bölüm açın ve tag içine references/ yazın. İsterseniz bir de örnek inceleyin. Mesela basit referans için Tanju Okan, biraz daha karışık refererans için Tülay German . Esnlilkler dilerim. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 11:08, 25 October 2013 (UTC) Note abobe message in Turkish is about sourcing. Turkey province-level stubs may be deleted, need your input on the discussion Hey Nedim, someone proposed that the top-level (province-level) geography stub categories for Turkey (for example, Category:Edirne Province geography stubs) should be deleted because they are not very populated at the moment. They made this proposal at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 October 25#Undersized Turkey geography stub categories and marked them for deletion. I'd like you to add your input on the matter; I for one voted to keep them, since they are province-level (and thus pretty important) stub categories. Ithinkicahn (talk) 12:29, 25 October 2013 (UTC) Nomination for deletion of Template:Scientists whose names are used as non SI units Template:Scientists whose names are used as non SI units has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. — This, that and the other (talk) 10:47, 29 October 2013 (UTC) Begendik Nemdim. Hello. I was just looking your recently created Begendik page. I see another editor added Άγιος Στέφανος Agios Stefanos. Interestingly that one that is formerly Ayostefanos is my (Greek origin) grandmother's home town. What is going on is there are several Begendiks, and actually even two in Turkish Thrace. Begenidik that was formerly Άγιος Στέφανος Agios Stefanos, is right on the Black Sea coast, the first town below the Turkish Bulgarian border at the Multudere/Resvedere/Resevo River. is It was part of a collection Ottoman Greek towns in the Kaza of Agagathopolis (Turkish Atenbulu, now Bulgarian Ahtopol) that were there since ancient times and got transferred to Bulgaria after the Balkan Wars. The Bulgarian Turkish border in the 1800's before the Balkan wars was north quite a bit on the coast at "Kiten." It was moved down to the Mutludere at the treaty of Neuilly in 1919. This transferred all of the Agathopolis Ottoman "Kaza" (subprovince eg Kırklareli) to Bulgaria except for Ayosefanos. There were about 30,000 Greeks in that set of towns, there since classical times, and they were thrown out by Bulgarian forces in the Balkan wars. They were formally denaturalized in the Neuilly Treaty, in 1919, in a model that would then be pushed by the great powers in the 1923 exchange between Greece and Turkey. Those lucky few like my grandmother, who were Agostefanos natives were allowed to return by the Ottomans, since they were still Ottoman subjects on the one part of that collection of towns that remained in Turkey. That fortune turned to misfortune as they were ejected again in the 1923 exchange. None of this is to put any blame on anything that occurred in these terrible wars on any one group, but just to lay out the history of the other Begendik. I do so because, although I have some knowledge of Wikipedia, I don't know how to create a "disambiguation page" necessary to create a second Begendik entry for the former Ayostefano, and hope you will. ThanksConstan50 (talk) 03:21, 1 November 2013 (UTC) Hi, if you search the List of populated places in Kırklareli Province you can see the name Beğendik under Demirköy heading. It is now a rather small village with a population of 277. Last year I tried to create articles about the small settlements in Turkey. But the problem is that it is difficult to find written sources about them. As for the disambiguation, of course it is easy. But at least some of the items in the page should have articles in WP. In case of Beğendik there is only one. But I'll see if I can create some others. In that case I'll certainly crete a disambig. page and show Beğendik, Demirköy (preferibly in a blue link). Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 04:43, 1 November 2013 (UTC) Nedim, Teşekkürler. here are some of the facts on black sea coastal Begendik - - former Ottoman Greek name: Ayostefano (NOY the same as Ayio Stephanos/San Stephano/Yeşilkoy which was a Marmara suburb of Istanbul) - in the coast just south of the Mutludere - was one of several Greek settled coastal towns that were part of Ottoman Agathopolis "Kaza" (small Ottoman administrative unit) - was the only town in Agathopolis Kaza not transferred to Bulgaria as a result of the Balkan Wars - Greeks were transferred out in the population exchange of 23. - Area was not repopulated by much for decades as it was a border, and then a strongly military NATO border (in fact I myself visited there with NATO in the early e80's and it was still heavily militarized) - Begendik is now a nascent tourist area. - It currently advocates for creation of a border crossing with Bulgaria to increase tourism. I guess the thing is I know mostly the Greek history of the place. But this today is a Turkish town with Turkish people so I don't want to make an article about simply the Greek aspect of it. There are many places in the region where the Turkish, or Greek or Bulgarian etc histories are poorly documented in contemporary notes. I don't want to seem like I have an agenda by simply putting in the part I know of. Constan50 (talk) 23:50, 2 November 2013 (UTC) Thanks for your interest. The information you have presented is valuable, but unfortunately, WP doesn't accept original research (ie, unsorced information). You seem to have some sources. We can collaborate to create an article. If you start the article I can contribute to it. Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:57, 3 November 2013 (UTC) Well, I now created the stub article myself. (see Beğendik, Demirköy) It needs your contributions. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:42, 3 November 2013 (UTC) Olympos Aerial Tram Hi Nedim! Thanks a lot for the very nice pic. Cheers. --CeeGee 09:58, 20 November 2013 (UTC) Proposed deletion of Philatelic exhibition in Mersin The article Philatelic exhibition in Mersin has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern: Not notable. While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons. You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:20, 26 November 2013 (UTC) Merge discussion for Osmanoğlu family An article that you have been involved in editing, Osmanoğlu family, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Ithinkicahn (talk) 01:41, 5 December 2013 (UTC) Who was "Kurgan" ? on the Talk:Timur page You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Timur#Who was .22Kurgan.22 .3F. Peaceray (talk) 05:37, 6 December 2013 (UTC) Exonyms Hi - just wondering if you had any follow-up comments at Talk:English_exonyms#Dotted İ. Thanks. Dohn joe (talk) 19:23, 6 December 2013 (UTC) Karadere / Hacıbahattin Merhaba. Burada ve burada değişikliğimi neden geri aldığınızı lütfen açıklarmısınız? Saygılarımla, --►Cekli829 14:26, 17 December 2013 (UTC) Özür dilerim, zaten burada açıklamışsınız. Şimdi baktım. Cheers. ;) --►Cekli829 14:30, 17 December 2013 (UTC) DYK nomination of Mersin Interfaith Cemetery Hello! Your submission of Mersin Interfaith Cemetery at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 21:09, 25 December 2013 (UTC) HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL Happy New Year Nedim Ardoğa! Happy New Year! Hello Nedim Ardoğa: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve the encyclopedia for Wikipedia's readers, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, CeeGee 09:58, 1 January 2014 (UTC) Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2014}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.