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WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 5866 last month to 6113 on April 25th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 41 out of a total number of 1835 articles. In the area of GAs, at 36, WP:YORKS equals WP:GM.
Thank you and well done to all those who contributed.
Article Activity
Architecture of Leeds was promoted to GA on April 5th York was nominated for GA on April 7th York failed its GA review on April 17th
Member News
There are now 60 members of WikiProject Yorkshire! There have been no changes in the membership since the April newsletter.
Thanks
To those who have done some work on adding co-ordinates and infoboxes to articles as mentioned in the last newsletter. The number has decreased but there is still some way to go.
There has again been a number of suggestions on the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal and this has been kept up to date.
The football and rugby editors have continued keeping abreast of most, if not all, of the top clubs.
WikiProkject Yorkshire editors have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist. Thanks.
A big "thank you" to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.
Priority Articles
The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows -
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Article tagging
This month I thought that I would focus on article tagging. Article tagging is the means of identifying that an article is within the scope of the project. This is done by placing the project template {{WikiProject Yorkshire}} on the talk page of an article below any existing project banners. Some pages have a number of banners and can get very cluttered, if this is the case then a shell is used to wrap the templates together and collapse them down to a single line. The main shells in use are {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} and {{WikiProjectBanners}} and any new template should be added inside the shell template. There is no longer a requirement to add the 'nested=yes' parameter to the Yorkshire template when doing this as it will be ignored.
Why tag, you may ask, the reason is to be able to locate relevant articles among all of Wikipedia's articles. If article 'Foo' is relevant to Yorkshire then, unless it is tagged, no one in the project will know it exists unless they happen to stumble across it. The odds are against this happening so tagging makes it easily identifiable to project members.
Once an article has been tagged it can be assessed to see what quality and importance it is to the project. This is done using the assessment parameters to the template, 'class=' and 'importance=', you can leave these to more experienced people to pick-up and assign. The results of this are shown in the statistics table on the left of the newsletter. Tagging also makes the articles appear on the project watchlist, article alerts log and clean-up listing when they are refreshed by the appropriate bot. It also provides readers with a point of contact if they wish to discuss the article in more detail and no responce has been received on the article's talk page or a wider audience is required on the discussion.
I would therefore encourage members to add the project template to the talk pages of articles they find that are relevant to the project so the rest of us know that it exists. You can also tag templates, categories etc. as these are all relevant to maintenance of the articles in the scope of the project. Vandalism on a template can affect a large number of articles so it needs watching.
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on March 9th.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
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we need your help on the Wiki dyslexia page again. Could you add some more of the discussion page to the existing discussion archive, as the discussion page is getting overly long.
And I have a few wiki technicla problems you may be able to help with, mantioned in the last few dyslexia discusion entries.
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Regarding this reversion, hrmm.... you acknowledge my factual correction, but this just makes it more awkward-sounding. The use of the term aikidōka outside of Japan has long been a peeve of mine... although I well understand the linguistic issues. The point I'd like to make about its use in this case is that the term is not at all necessary in a section whose topic is "uniforms and ranking". I suppose it got in there at some point in the far past and no one has felt any need (until now :-) to try to remove it. The term appears in the lead paragraph and I've even recently linked that myself to List of aikidoka. My peeve, however, compels me to try to limit the use of the word to places where it is appropriate, and remove it from those where it serves no real purpose. Surely you must agree that the aside in question serves no purpose in this section, and it can only improve the text from a stylistic standpoint to remove it :-) Himatsu Bushi (talk) 04:42, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Dyslexia/Legal
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need a bit more help
Hi Nate
I need someone who has some legal knowledge to move most of ther Legal section of the Dyslexia web page to a page realted to the Disability Dicrimination Acts in the UK and the SEN provision requirements and more scpefically the recent Bercow Review. In the USA thye have their IDEA system and wiki page which covers these issues, and there must be other similar provision made in other countries whichj makes this more aof a local issue than a global one.
I would also appreciate your views on the changes made so far to the WIKI dyalexia page so that i can have some feedback about if I am doing waht is needed with regard to the WIKI requirements for the article.
I have just added some see also WIKI pages to the Legal and support section of the WIKI Dyslexia page.
This would seem to highlight the need for some clarity from the wiki pages i have included, and may be a WIKI project to oversee this very importnat and related issues.
There will be different national statues and support structures by those seeking information shoulds be able to start from onme single WIKI page and then move to their own national support systems.
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hi nate,
can you tell me who put together the article on bradford, here on wikipedia as my name was added due to my being in the uk top ten and producers records since 1991, and then it was removed! lolol from the notable bradfordians section dispite my being in the guinness book of hit singles ect
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 6113 last month to 6344 on May 30th). We have recently overtaken WP:LONDON which has 6283 articles. WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 38 out of a total number of 1850 articles. In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 42 is just behind WP:GM with 44.
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Browsers
According to the article Usage share of web browsers the percentage of people using the Mozilla Firefox browser has increased steadily since 2004 and it now stands at 22.56%. The percentage of Wikipedia editors using Firefox is probably considerably higher because the Firefox browser has a number of advantages for editors. Not least of these is the add-on that lets you right click on a web page to get a Cite Web pop up on the menu. WPCITE allows you easily to create a citation template. This makes the laborious task of filling in web citation templates (almost) a thing of the past.
Another advantage of Firefox is the ability to use wikiEd which is a full-featured Wikipedia-integrated text editor that adds enhanced text processing functions to edit pages. And there is a spell checker Currently, wikEd works under Firefox, SeaMonkey, Safari, and Google Chrome, but not under Internet Explorer and Opera.
Mention of these other browsers reminds me that not all browsers render pages in the same way. What appears to be a beautiful layout in one browser can be rendered as a tangled mess of text and images by another. As most browsers can be downloaded for free, it is worth having several on your computer just to check the appearance of articles. Bear in mind that many people who use Wikipedia just for reference will have only Internet Explorer, and possibly quite an old version, so some of the latest "bells and whistles" may not work for them.
My apologies to old hands who already know all this, but to new users it really is worthwhile looking into the possibilities of different browsers on Wikipedia.
September 2011, web browser usage share. Source: Median values from summary table.
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on March 9th.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
As of 30 May, 2009, we have assessed 100% of all articles with a project banner.
(Some new and additional article talk pages may still require a banner however)
Thanks
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
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An article that you have been involved in editing, Zen Do Kai, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zen Do Kai. Thank you.
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Hi All
I have added some new sections below which have come from various talk pages in recent days but all realted in some way to the dyslexia project. So I have added them all below, in the hope that we can all begin to add our own input as one person working alone can cause also sorts of problems as can be seen above.
I will post a copy of this to all who I think may wish to the new begining of the Dyslexia project and a copy will appear on your individual discussion pages ( I hope you do not mind).
The oringinal copy of this can be found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dyslexia the discusion page of the main project article you will see revise project template, the changes on the tamplate is the addition of a Project pages section, which includes the orinal project pages and the new STAGE TWO page which is hopefuly the new starting point. the STAGE TWO page has the dyslexia article as it is now. And we can tinker with it without changing the actual article itself and discuss and issue we may have before making further changes to the article itself.
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What's the policy/guideline on large lists of students on an instructor's page here? Isn't that beyond the scope of what the article is supposed to be about? I'm referring to something like at Chan Shing for example. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 23:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
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You archived a talk page discussion using notability - (These notability guidelines only outline how suitable a topic is for its own article. They do not directly limit the content of articles. For Wikipedia's policies regarding content...), and talk page guidelines. Given that the discussion was about an issue that the article does not currently address, may I suggest that you improve the article, so it deals with the question raised.93.96.148.42 (talk) 02:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
The discussion was on an aspect of the BNP that is not currently covered by the article, hence was concerned with improving the article. May not have been a brilliant discussion, but totally appropriate subject.93.96.148.42 (talk) 16:38, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
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WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 6344 last month to 6538 on June 28th). We have recently overtaken WP:LONDON which has 6318 articles. WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 39 out of a total number of 1862 articles. In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 45 is just ahead of WP:GM who have 44.
Thank you and well done to all those who contributed.
Article Activity
Siward Barn was promoted to GA on May 10th Oslac of York was promoted to GA on May 18th Thomas Ferens was promoted to GA on June 6th Wilfred was promoted to FA on June 9th Ilkley was nominated for GA on June 11th Sheffield was nominated for a FAR on June 18th Peak District was nominated for GA on June 18th York was submitted for a peer review on June 21st
Member News
There are now 64 members of WikiProject Yorkshire! A warm welcome to the new members that have joined us since the June newsletter:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Citing sources for your text
In recent months some really promising Yorkshire articles from new editors have been appearing on Wikipedia. These editors have worked hard to produce interesting and informative texts with some exquisite images. However, some of these articles have lacked any verifiable sources, an absolute must for Wikipedia articles. Additional research is usually necessary to write a good article. An article has to be verifiable and citereliable sources which ideally should include books or peer reviewed journal articles. Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed. The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation.
Fortunately, Wikipedia provides a number of easily used tools to help with this task. Beside the Firefox add on that was mentioned last month there are a couple of toolbar options to help editors.
The first is on the default toolbar. It's the <ref>...</ref> button. This places any text that is placed between the markers in the References section on the article page.
The second handy tool is obtained by going to the my preferences section on the menu tabs at the top of the page, click GADGETS, go to Editing gadgets and check refTools. Save your options and a new CITE button is added to your editing toolbar. This little wonder, when clicked, produces options for citation templates beneath the existing toolbar. It is a fairly simple task then to copy and paste the information into the template and when you've completed as much as you can, click the Add citation button. This produces an inline citation. Of course this all depends on there being a References section on the page with either the <references/> markup or {{Reflist}} template added.
If you are in doubt about an unsourced statement, try copying the phrase or sentence and pasting it into the search box of your favourite search engine. Often this turns up a source which you can then add to the article yourself by filling in one of the citation templates on your editing toolbar. If you want to request a source for an unsourced statement, consider tagging a sentence by adding the {{fact}} template, a section with {{unreferencedsection}}, or the article with {{refimprove}} or {{unreferenced}}. Alternatively, you may leave a note on the talk page requesting a source, or you may move the material to the talk page.
Please remember...
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The project has 15 top-importance articles. 8 of them, or 53.3%, are flagged for cleanup.
Articles with dead external links (Oct 2008), Articles with unsourced statements (Mar 2009)
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
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Thanks Nate for all the hard work!
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Thanks Nate for all the hard work! I'm glad that you have spent time helping clean up the Cai_li_fo page, it reads much better now. Huo Xin (talk) 18:19, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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Hello Nate,
You placed a template listing various concerns regarding this page. If I read your note correctly, you mentioned that you might be able to recruit an expert in the field. I am curious what "expert" you may be considering for this page. Are you familiar with Doc-Fai Wong? Clftruthseeking (talk) 16:52, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, there.
I'm working again on the dyslexia article series and wanted to see if I can get anyone working with me again .... The WikiProject page is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Dyslexia.
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You accused me of breaking 3RR, count the revisions, I have only made two (plus an edit to add further references that reverted nothing, only added). Blackshod (talk) 16:11, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, thanks for the tip. I have heard differing opinions on this. I prefer 'they' or 'their' as well, so I guess I should use what I think is right. Some think that usage is grammatically incorrect. Maybe you are an authority? I will take your advice. Plusein (talk) 11:18, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
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WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 6,538 last month to 6,651 on July 27th). WP:LONDON have had a major tagging spree by a bot and now have 12,595 articles which is twice as may as this project. WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 39 out of a total number of 1,946 articles. In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 46 is just ahead of WP:GM who have 45.
Thank you and well done to all those who contributed.
Article Activity
Peak District passed a GA review on July 2nd Ilkley failed a GA review on July 19th Arctic Monkeys kept following GAR reassessment on July 21st York nominated for GA review on July 21st Geoffrey Boycott nominated for GA review on July 25th
Member News
There are now 65 members of WikiProject Yorkshire! A warm welcome to the new members that have joined us since the July newsletter:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Images
This month we focus on a recent requirement for images in articles—that of supplying alternative text for each of the images. This has been raised in FAC debates and is now a requirement for FA articles and as a result there is a general push to get all images marked-up. For example the {{Infobox UK place}} is currently undergoing changes in preparation for the use of alternative text on its images.
Alternative text is text added to the image mark-up to describe the image to someone who cannot see the image. The alternative text is in addition to the caption and should not duplicate information in the caption. It should be added, without any wikimark-up or line-breaks in it, using the alt= parameter of the image mark-up. For more information on this see WP:ALT.
Example
The exterior of York Castle, including a large portion of the motte.
[[Image:York castle exterior.jpg|thumb|100px|alt=A tall, circular, roofless building of honey coloured stone positioned on top of a high mound of grass.|The exterior of York Castle, including a large portion of the motte.]]
(If you are using a standard graphical browser and want to read this image's alt text, ask the browser to display the image's properties. Usually right click, properties.)
The same requirement is to be applied to Math-mode formulas but is probably less important to this project as very few of our articles contain such mark-up.
Please remember...
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Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
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New conversation about issue with the dyslexia articles
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Hi, there. I just started a new conversation on the Wikiproject dyslexia talk page about our attempt to provide a worldwide view in these articles. We could use as many people providing feedback as possible. Please read and respond, if you can.
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Hey, could you take a look at Talk:Strikeforce and maybe chip in so we get closer to a consensus for the latest issue? There have been quite a few issues the last two months (mainly POV-related things) so any additional eyes on the article would also be appreciated. Thanks, --aktsu(t / c)16:10, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Ah, I forget which editors were involved with what and I guess you already knew of the things going on there after the "notable fighters"-thing (which I guess we should get back to as it hasn't resulted in any changes to the status quo of "anything goes"). -_- --aktsu(t / c)16:13, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
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I have done a GA Reassessment of this article as part of the GA Sweeps project. I have found the article does not meet the current GA Criteria. My assessment can be found here. I have put the article on hold for one week pending work. I you as one of the primary editors of this assessment. Should you have any questions please contact me on my talk page. H1nkles (talk) 18:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
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Hey, thanks for cleaning up my edit to Wrestling ... unfortunately you added a spelling mistake, punctuation mistake and a broken link ... ha, ha, I'm still looking for the term "daft" in the WP:CIV article Hutcher (talk) 05:16, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
BJJ Belt Rank Pages
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Yea, I don't think that merging them to a generalized ranks page is a bad call. My only fear would be ending up with too much redundancy with the Main BJJ page (and possibly getting deleted).
As you know, the main BJJ page addresses ranks/belts to a general degree. The individual pages were obviously created attempting to be much more specific for each belt, and with the hopes that someone with a LOT of BJJ knowledge might come along at some point and expand them out with more detailed info (so they'd have a lot less of a stub feel to them).
A separate article regarding BJJ ranks would be nice, but I almost feel that something like that would need to be written by more of an "expert" on the topic. What do you think? Do you think that an average practitioner (or anyone for that matter) with just the right sources could craft it? Buddy23Lee (talk) 17:27, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Crafting the page
You make an excellent point. That could help make the BJJ main page a lot more concise. It's a shame that most of the content found in the current grading section has ever been cited, as that would make crafting a new article just too easy, right? ;)
I've found it somewhat challenging to find authoritative, citable sources regarding grading/ranks beyond the IBJJF, and attempted to structure the belt article stubs around that info in my best attempt to keep the pages neutral. I'm worried that a lengthy article has a lot more potential for bias.
So that the effort doesn't get wasted, are you interested in starting this article or would you like me to give it a shot? It might take a bit, with the need (attempt) to find a lot more sources, but I could throw something in my sandbox and see what you think before we do anything drastic. Let me know. Buddy23Lee (talk) 18:29, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey Nate. I'm gunna take your lack of response to mean that you're probably busy with more important things. ;) I'm going to get started on that article. It might take a week or two with trying to cull all the source material. I'll put something on the talk page too. Buddy23Lee (talk) 05:13, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - September 2009
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WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 6,651 last month to 6,881 on August 23rd). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 41 out of a total number of 1,972 articles. In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 47 is just ahead of WP:GM who have 44.
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Summer treasures?
As the summer holiday season draws to a close, it is likely that many of our project Yorkshire members will have visited the Yorkshire coast. Some will have digital photographs stored on their camera cards or have leaflets and guide books about places they have visited. Now is the time to put all that wonderful treasury of information onto Wikipedia, before they all get lost in the run up to Christmas. (Ah yes, I can see supermarkets selling off barbecues to make room for baubles.)
There are two major categories for our coastal venues Category:Coastal settlements in North Yorkshire and Category:Coastal settlements in the East Riding of Yorkshire. Many of the articles in these categories are not kept up to date on a regular basis. Although it has to be said that some of the articles about the more popular resorts are well maintained and regularly watched for vandalism. Some tend to suffer from being overlinked to commercial enterprises but most sit there waiting patiently for a bit of TLC.
Fish and tricks at the seaside
Our own watchlists often become unmanageable after a while, so here is a way to make the task of keeping an eye on specific articles much easier.
You can create your own separate Watchlist for any articles that you are interested in helping to maintain or expand by:
listing the articles on a clean Sandbox page
clicking on "Related changes" in the toolbox area to get a list of recent changes for your adopted articles
copying and pasting the URL displayed on the address bar of your browser to a convenient place, maybe your to do list.
And, of course, you can change the options at the top of the page to display more or fewer changes, as usual.
(This trick works for any special little watchlists that you might like to create!!)
Please remember...
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on August 18th.
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Hi, regarding your edit summary here. I totally agree that the martial arts frequently have a national origin, I haven't removed the country parameter from the template. Only the flag, there really is no use for a flag when the country itself is already written. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (icons). Garion96(talk)12:06, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(icons)#Do_not_solely_decorate for instance. What purpose does it serve? And of course from past precedent, movie infoboxes have removed the flags, so did biography articles and a bunch more. Besides a pretty icon a flag has no real purpose in the infobox. Plus it can cause problems, is there a martial arts started in Germany during the third reich? (We have had some usage of that in other infoboxes) or is there a Tibetan martial arts? Do you use the Tibetan flag or the Chinese flag? Or my favourite hypothetical, a Northern Ireland martial arts. :) Garion96(talk)12:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Godwin's law can be overrated. You really can use an example of nazism in a normal discussion. Besides, recognition? Do you know many people who can recognise all these flags? Or see the difference between the flag of New Zealand and Australia? Since you already noted they should not be added when it's ambiguities it might as well be removed completely. Garion96(talk)12:56, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
You never responded to my last comment so then you shouldn't be surprised I reverted your edit after a week of no response. So far you still haven't explained why they are useful especially since you agree that sometimes they shouldn't be placed. Either have them always or never. And per wp:mosicon never is the best option because of course they are decorative, people can read. Garion96(talk)12:35, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
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i was wondering if you saw this in Crotalus horridus's block log - 19:04, 22 December 2008 Phil Sandifer (talk | contribs) blocked Crotalus horridus (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 24 hours (Egregious disruption, using Twinkle to querrelously AfD articles so as to advance a POV.)
if he keeps trying to delete all these anti-bullshido articles while saying things like 'bullshido is a cult' then i think someone needs to involve an admin. Theserialcomma (talk) 19:19, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
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