Just testing things out - pretty sad really, talking to oneself.

Tay Coast Line (et al)

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The issue with the Tay Coast Line article is that Wikipedia articles need to be verifiable. There is a big problem in Wikipedia that many articles fail this test, which, I believe, is why a more controlled version is being created, however what it should mean is that the articles should only say what is stated in the quoted sources, and that the quoted sources should, be ones that are considered reliable.

Generally reliable means that the source must have been published through a reputable publisher, or, at least, by a well known organisation that has no interest in mis-representing the facts. Ideally it should be available in perpetuity, however there is something of a conflict between that and the it being easy for anyone looking at the article to check it against the sources, given that very few web sites have any long term stability.

In the case of the "Tay Coast Line" title, none of the sources ever used this term whereas at least two of them used the Dundee and Perth Railway. Whilst this may be loose terminology, the Wikipedia concept of truth is what can be verified from the quoted sources, not what the author simply knows to be true.

Other examples are the double track working. It may be obvious to anyone travelling on the line that is double track working, but, without a published statement to that effect, it is not valid Wikipedia content. I did wonder if you could use the OS map as a source, but I think that would only prove that there was more than one line, rather than that two were actually in use.

If the section of track exists a distinct entity, another thought might be that there is a Land Registry entry for it. I haven't checked, and it might have an identification that is too unfriendly to use.

Another possibility is that there are well known railways enthusiasts' publications, of a type that are distributed by the book trade, that use the name. These may be more difficult for people to check, so you may have to look for contributors to other railway articles and try to convince them to create the article.

-- David Woolley 20:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

National Rail Conditions of Travel

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Hi! Am sending you this message as you mentioned the change to the NRCoT in the old NRCoC article. The National Rail Conditions of Carriage - the 'Terms & Conditions' for railway ticketing, were overhauled into the National Rail Conditions of Travel for journeys after 1st October; when I get time I'm going to summarise the new document, but any help on this would be appreciated (if you want to & have time of course!) Mike1901 (talk) 13:39, 10 October 2016 (UTC)Reply