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Saturday: NYC Art And Feminism Wikipedia Editathon

Please join Wikipedia "Art and Feminism Editathon" @ Eyebeam on Saturday February 1, 2014, an event aimed at collaboratively expanding Wikipedia articles covering Art and Feminism, and the biographies of women artists! There are also regional events that day in Brooklyn, Westchester County, and the Hudson Valley. --Pharos (talk)

Upcoming Saturday events - March 1: Harlem History Editathon and March 8: NYU Law Editathon

Upcoming Saturday events - March 1: Harlem History Editathon and March 8: NYU Law Editathon

You are invited to join upcoming Wikipedia "Editathons", where both experienced and new Wikipedia editors will collaboratively improve articles on a selected theme, on the following two Saturdays in March: Saturday March 1: Harlem History Editathon (RSVP), focusing on Harlem history, landmarks and biographies Saturday March 8: NYU Law Editathon (RSVP), focusing on innovation law and intellectual property (with social dinner afterward) I hope to see you there! Pharos (talk)

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Hopewell

Thanks, one month schoolblock for the IP. Dougweller (talk) 16:45, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

You bet :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:48, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar

*sigh* I guess a mug of coffee wasn't enough for you, eh? Well, it's not enough for me - I need a refill badly. But my mom is pretty "OMG WTF R U DRINKING" when she catches me with a mug of joe in my hands. If coffee doesn't fuel me (and keep me awake) when I fight vandalism, it's my own motivation and pride on keeping Wikipedia clean (and the laugh I get sometimes when vandals vandalize an article). I assume the same is for you, no? Well, whatever the case is, a shiny barnstar does motivate a lot of vandal fighters to keep on going. Unless they think barnstars are nothing more than a lame substituted template that serves no purpose whatsoever other than waste server space. If barnstars waste server space, isn't drinking coffee wasting coffee beans? I say a barnstar is a pretty good deal. Now if only I could get a new coffee machine... K6ka (talk | contribs) 04:49, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Bump to prevent archive bot from archiving this discussion - I want the user to see this! K6ka (talk | contribs) 20:17, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks K6ka! I think barnstars and WikiLove contribute a great deal toward an editors' motivation. They promote the collegial spirit of the wiki and ensure hard work does not go unnoticed. I am no different. I appreciate you taking the time to acknowledge my efforts toward fighting vandalism, as I do find it very encouraging. Cheers and warm regards :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 22:34, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Professor Govinda KC

Hi MusikAnimal,

I was surprised that the article on Professor Govinda K.C. (which was created two days ago) has been blanked. Previously, it had been deleted and moved to Govinda K.C. without redirect. Because this is a common name in Nepal, I tried a redirect from the professor page to the link. Now, I cannot even find the original file. Could you please help me with this?

Thanks Rabindahal (talk) 18:12, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm going to guess that perhaps it was deleted as well. I'm not aware of a way to search for deleted pages, at least without having the admin right (which I do not). You could try different spellings, etc, with the search. The search is pretty good, so if you don't see it, it's probably not there :( Hope this helps!

Nevermind! Looked through your contribution history and found it at Govinda K. C.. I guess the WP search isn't so good afterall! I also fixed the redirect for you. Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:20, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

I also moved Govinda K. C. to Govinda K.C.. That's what you wanted, I hope? — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:24, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Andy Davis Football

A mistake wasn't made- I would like that page taken down 24.246.125.157 (talk) 19:41, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hey! If you feel this page meets one of these criteria, you may nominate it for deletion. Blanking pages is not the correct route and is considered disruptive. Hope this helps. — MusikAnimal ^talk 19:44, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Don't really care how it's considered- i didn't make the page and it's about me with people vandalizing it daily- thanks

In its current state the page doesn't appear to be vandalized, but we can semi-protect it if that becomes a problem. Rest assured, our patrollers will keep the page clean, I am also personally watching it. The thing to understand, however, is that you nor myself are in any authority to delete the page, as neither of us can actually do that. Since this is a biography on a living person, special measures can be taken. If you are who you say you are, and you truly wish it to be deleted, you may contact the Wikimedia Foundation here. — MusikAnimal ^talk 20:22, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks I appreciate that- just contacted them as well — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.246.125.157 (talk) 17:34, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Thanks for reverting that message on my talkpage. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 20:09, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Yeah that was a nasty one... my pleasure in reverting it. Thank you for the barnstar! — MusikAnimal ^talk 20:15, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

You're more than welcome. Indeed, it was a nasty one (about on-par with the time someone decided to add a painting of a man having intercourse with a goat on my userpage), but thankfully, I have a thick skin. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 20:20, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

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Michael P Rowe

Regarding the Michael Rowe entry you reviewed. Is there any particular area you believe to be contentious or negative that needs citations?

I see a few areas where some more citations could be utilized, and I'll get those notated. Thank you. J. Rowe Mprowe9169 (talk) 20:53, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

The Cold War Era section is the one that really stuck out to me. Again, not a clear WP:BLP violation, but inline citations are highly preferred. If you have the sources, which I assume you do, let's make them inline to support any claims that may be likely to be challenged. You must also remove the names of any family members, as without being properly sourced it violates WP:BLPNAME. It's important to understand that we take biographies on living persons much more seriously than other topics, this is due to lawsuits that have happened in the past. Let me know if you need anymore help! — MusikAnimal ^talk 21:08, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Michael P Rowe

I'm wondering if I was too hard on the author of this apparently-autobiographical submission. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 04:44, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

I think your review was appropriate. The username does suggest editing may be done by the subject himself, a valid concern. I also pointed out issues regarding notability on the user's talk page and gave recommendations on how to address them. Otherwise I do not think a third-party rewrite would amount to much. — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:31, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

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A cupcake for you!

I know this is late but I wanted to take a moment to thank you for your participation at my RfA. I was very inspired by the many that supported me and it’s that feeling of friendship and camaraderie that keeps me coming back to the project. So, thank you for your support and for your continued sense of fairness and compassion in all areas of WP. I look forward to the opportunity to work together in the days to come. Best wishes, — Keithbob • Talk • 16:39, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Hey Keithbob! I was sincere in my support and I stand firm behind that. An RfA can be very hard on an editor, and I admire your ability to learn from it and not let any aspect of it discourage you. I, too, look forward to a future working together. Cheers :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 14:30, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

204.69.76.0

In this case, a block was warranted even without the warning because it was blocked for 72 hours on March 6 and vandalized again. Enigma^msg 16:43, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Gotcha. Huggle was right, then! Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:45, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes. I have not used Huggle in several years, but I suspect it can detect that kind of situation (vandalism right off a block). Enigma^msg 16:53, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

YTV article

YTV is family oriented. 89.240.85.223 (talk) 20:30, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

The range of ages 6 to 112 is rather arbitrary and redundant – it sounds like an attempt at humour. If you strongly feel otherwise, feel free to start a discussion on the talk page. I apologize if I misinterpreted your edit as having ill-intent when it was actually made in good faith. — MusikAnimal ^talk 20:56, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Alleged copyright infringement (article on Adam Holmes)

In response to your message notifying me that my submitted article on Adam Holmes has breached copyright, please see below a copy of the "talk" article I have sent to R Haworth (the editor who deleted the article) on subject of the alleged copyright infringement, which I dispute -

REF 22:29, 9 March 2014 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Adam Holmes (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.hebceltfest.com/festival/artists/adam_holmes.php) https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Adam_Holmes

Whatever www.hebceltfest.com claim about copyright they clearly do not own the copyright to the Adam Holmes content. Perhaps the copyright sign on their page refers to their own name and logo, it's not clear. Copy which bears a remarkable similarity to the hebcelt text can be found at the following sites, dating back to 2013, and including Adam Holmes' own website (to which it is almost identical), suggesting strongly that the phrasing came from there originally, and has been widely circulated for use by press, venues etc. Artist's own website - http://www.adamholmesandtheembers.com Folk Roots (2013) http://www.folkrootslist.co.uk/2013/11/countdown-begins-for-celtic-connections-2014/#.Ux5LjPl_uSo Angus Ahead http://www.angusahead.com/events/event/174/the_adam_holmes_trio Folk Radio UK, http://www.folkradio.co.uk/2014/01/debut-album-from-adam-holmes-and-the-embers/ Amazing Tunes http://amazingtunes.com/u/adamholmesandtheembers/biography Shetland Festival https://www.shetlandfolkfestival.com/adam-holmes-and-the-embers

My article summarised the information already freely available online, but remained factual, without resorting to the "marketing speak". While I appreciate the efforts of the Wikipedia editors, and I am aware of the huge backlog there has been recently, I would suggest that on this occasion the deleting of the article was an error. I would therefore be extremely appreciative if it could be un-deleted. Please don't hesitate to ask if you have further questions Morag Neil (talk) 01:29, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

User:ReemMak

Hello MusikAnimal,

I did the change for the page User:ReemMak on purpose for someone to notice it. I believe this page is nonesense and should be deleted, for Wikipedia is to share knowledge and not to create our own personal page, especially if we are not a celebrity like in the case of User:ReemMak.

Thanks,

J — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.234.251.140 (talk) 16:40, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Per WP:USERBIO excessive unrelated content in the userspace is discouraged, but vandalizing the user's page is not the correct way to address that. If you are so bothered, perhaps instead talk to the user and point out the guideline on user pages. From what I'm seeing, I don't think it's fair to assume they are here for social networking. Also, divulging personal interests can help editors become better involved with each other and collaborate on topics of common interests. This is what the Category:Wikipedians by interest categories are for, which the editor in question may not be aware of. — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:59, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

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Re: Fleur Mellor

Hi, Could you please amend Fleur Mellor's birthday to the 13th July TimGrigg (talk) 15:38, 19 March 2014 (UTC) Tim Grigg 19/03/2014 TimGrigg (talk) 15:38, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

If you can provide a reliabe source feel free to change the birthdate yourself. The reason I reverted your edit was because it lacked neutrality. You should stick to the facts and disregard opinions or beliefs, see WP:POV for more on this policy. Thanks, and feel free to write back here if you need anymore help. — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:00, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Bank Roll

On Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bank Roll (movie), you stated that it has no reliable sources. To be honest, the editor of the page is the director, screen player and the scriptwriter. Yes, he is Doug Maguire, who have his own Wikipedia account. If this is the case, then, he basically do not need to put sources at all as it is his movie. It's his, and you're trying to say not reliable sources? See the page history if you don't believe me. It's full of User:Dougmaguire edits except for the one you made. Thanks. (I know this is a rare case in Wikipedia, but... I also do not know what should we do about it.) --Nahnah4 ^{Any thoughts? Pen 'em down here!} 09:16, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment, allow me to explain. For starters, you should not write about yourself or your own work, see WP:COS. This is because it can be difficult to maintain neutrality and not exert a conflict of interest. Everything on Wikipedia needs to be verifiable, this is so that readers can easily check that the information comes from a reliable source. All content is based solely on previously published information, not the original research|thoughts or experiences of the editors. Please see WP:V for more on this fundamental policy. The one exception is the plot summary, which does not need inline sources as it is assumed to come from the primary source. Despite COI concerns, I thought the article in question was reasonably well-written, but just that the challegeable content lacked reliable sources – which IMDb is not. Let me know if you need further clarification.

PS – I noticed your signature is missing some markup. You have a starting three apostrophes ''' placed before the [[User talk:Nahnah4 but you did not close it with three more apostrophes. Everything looks right, unless you use a syntax highlighting script in your wiki editor, in which case everything after your signature is the wrong colour :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 15:24, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, but the editor is the creator of the movie, so you know...

PS-Yeah, I figured that out. Thanks for pointing it out anyway, and if you replied to my comment, please drop a {{talkback}} template on my talk page so that I know. I don't anyhow add pages into my watch list, so I hope you can put the TB template. Cheers! --Nahnah4 ^{Any thoughts? Pen 'em down here!} 06:35, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Darn. It's me. I stayed neutral, then read the guidelines and thought it would be rejected based on me writing it, so I stayed REALLY neutral. I wish it got rejected because of me writing it. That would have been cooler. The IMDb references are for budget, the soundtrack and video poster. I wrote about the budget so much and it's referenced six or seven times. It looks like a ton of IMDb, but it's really not. Hey, you know? It IS a good article. I imagine someday, someone will write something about our movie. I'm not going to change anything, it's all accurate. I also won't create a bogus account and re-submit with less info. Looking forward to being pleasantly surprised one day by a stranger. Thank you for taking time to read it and review, MusikAnimal. - Doug User:Dougmaguire

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Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/American Standards

Hi MusikAnimal,

I'm reviewing your comments for the new page that I'm creating on American Standards;

https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User:FoundationAgency/American_Standards

This is my first article so I'm wondering if I may have sited the sources incorrectly. I was originally instructed by Aggie80 on his talk page that I had proved the subjects notability through their releases with Victory Records, fan following of 90,000+ on their social networks and multiple third party independent press coverings both online and in print. He had told me that the citations were in the wrong area however and once moved should be okay. I'm noticing that although I moved them, only certain ones appear to have fed into the citations at the bottom. This is likely a coding mistake on my end. So I'm wondering if;

1. if you may be able to help instruct me how to correct the citations and

2. should I remove all citations to references such as reverbnation? I initially added these more as fact based support for band members and changes as well as reverbnation charting the band as the #2 chart listed punk band in AZ and #27th nationally.

Thank you in advance! 70.176.34.245 (talk) 01:40, 19 March 2014 (UTC)FoundationAgency

Hey! You added the group parameter to the ref tags, which if the syntax is not right they won't show up. Grouping together references is something you don't see very often, and is not really necessary. I removed them and viola a hoard of references appeared. You can learn more basics about referencing at WP:REFBEGIN.

Any source that contains user-submitted content is generally not considered reliable. This would include sites like ReverbNation, Discogs, IMDb, most blogging sites, etc. I don't really see how a following on social networks proves notability, especially ReverbNation, as many bands just friend other bands to get the "followers" number higher, when they're actually just a local act. See WP:RS for info on what's considered a reliable source, and WP:BAND for the notability guideline. The references I see in your submission now, however, do look better. I can look at this probably tomorrow night, unless another reviewer wants to take it up.

Hope this helps! — MusikAnimal ^talk 15:53, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

This helps a lot. Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate it!

FoundationAgency (talk) 15:47, 22 March 2014 (UTC)FoundationAgency

Article for Submission: D. Keith Furon

Thank you for your notes on the article that I submitted earlier. https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User:Cherylisadesigner/sandbox

I wanted to ask about the references used in the article. The books used as reference on the artist were not written by him, but by the publisher. The first two books listed are books about this artist alone, and the other two books feature his work with write ups about him. These four books were not written by the subject of the article. Also other references to the artist's work listed were art galleries where his work has been exhibited…third parties that are independent. The only direct references are the artist's websites. It seems like a;; my references are reliable secondary sources. Am I missing something?

Cherylisadesigner (talk) 20:53, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Hey! First off I'm a little confused as I only see two books (with ISBN's, that is). The first, D. Keith Furon: The First Thirty Years, I gathered was written by D. Keith Furon himself as is indicated on Amazon and other sites. The other book, The New Erotic Photography 2, is not written by him and it looks like there is a fair amount of content there. More references are needed, however.

Moving on, showing which galleries the subject was featured in is good, particularly MoMa, but many of the references don't offer much for verifiability as they only link to the front page of the institute. Perhaps try to find a specific page that mentions Furon. The other references appear to either be a blog or very briefly mention the subject's name. We need reliable references that provide substantial content about the subject. More at WP:SIGCOV.

If you need more help don't hesitate to ask! — MusikAnimal ^talk 23:01, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi ! Thanks for the update on My Father and the Man in Black Greatpumkin (talk) 21:30, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

No problem! — MusikAnimal ^talk 23:08, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

A pie for you!

Thanks Greatpumkin (talk) 21:31, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Mmmm huckleberry, my favourite! Cheers :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 23:09, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

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Historic Hotels of America

Hi MusikAnimal,

I'm working to create a page on Historic Hotels of America. I saw that you commented that the page already exists, but I don't see any mention of Historic Hotels of America on wikipedia except on the National Trust for Historic Preservation's page, where there is one external link to Historic Hotels of America.

Please advise how I can fix this. I am new on wikipedia and would appreciate your help.

Thank you! Harmslamm (talk) 14:52, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Hey! More than happy to help you. So indeed I did decline the submission as a duplicate, and you are correct that National Trust for Historic Preservation does not say much about Historic Hotels of America (which redirects there). The is other rationale for declining your submission, however. The "Membership" section of the article appeared to copied and pasted, or too closely paraphrased from the official site. For this reason the submission had to be blanked for copyright violation. Make sure to always reword things, see WP:COPYPASTE.

Furthermore, the sources you were including did not sufficiently show that this organization is notable. Aside from the official site, the other references did mention the organization at all. We need reliable sources that are independent of the subject to establish notability. See WP:ORG for more on this guideline. That being said, while the organization may not warrant it's own dedicated article, you could alternatively touch on it at National Trust for Historic Preservation, which is what I recommend. Otherwise feel free to paraphrase your submission, find more sources, and resubmit for another review. Hope this helps! — MusikAnimal ^talk 15:20, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi MusikAnimal

Is there a place I can go to complain about the conduct of an editor? Like someone to chat with? Thank you. --Susan Macafee (talk) 21:37, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

You should first seek dispute resolution. If you think administrator assistance is needed, you can file a formal complaint at WP:AN/I. Be prepared to show diffs clearly showing misconduct. If you'd simply just like to chat with other experienced editors, need advice – about anything – you can get quick answers on the IRC channel at wikipedia-en-help. Hope all gets settled peacefully! — MusikAnimal ^talk 01:22, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

American Standards

Hi MusikAnimal,

I wanted to follow up on the following wiki https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User:FoundationAgency/American_Standards

It was previously submitted under FoundationAgency and reviewed by you. I was asked to change my user name however and am now registered as DeafeningSound. I've made the requested changes to the references and also included a couple more. Please let me know if this will suffice or if anything else is needed to improve the content.

Thank you! FoundationAgency (talk) 01:16, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Hey @DeafeningSound:, you should be careful not to edit under the name FoundationAgency, which you did here. Surely that was a mistake, and is common when some editors change usernames. Just remember to put in the right credentials when you log in! Regarding your submission, I have given my feedback on the submission page. Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 02:52, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Mommy's Bliss

You accepted this article at AFC. I'm not seeing sufficient notability for an article about this company. I've tagged it for "notability." Is there any reason I should not start the deletion process? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 02:39, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Hey, I have given my input on the talk page. — MusikAnimal ^talk 02:59, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi MusikAnimal

Thank you so much for the impute on the talk page. I was extremely upset today to find out that NeilIN did not even wait a day, before he took the text off the logo. I do not like to work with people that use Wikipedia to bolster their ego. I had left a message that I was waiting for an email. You probably saw what I had written that I had the approval and permission of the Executive Director to use the logo and the permission was sent to Wikipedia, and I was waiting for an email from the Executive Director. As I told you before I had created the logo, and it was a new version, which was in the process of being replaced on the web site and the blog. Since I had the logo I placed it on the Wiki page. The web site is taken care of by volunteers at Princeton Univ. I was waiting for the email from the Executive Director to inform me of the status changes with the logo. NeilIN could not even wait a day to receive this information before he deleted the text. The Executive Director is in NY and I sent the message on Pacific time at 10:21, she would not have seen the message until today, when she got home from work. By the time I received her email this afternoon, NeilIN had already deleted the text. I am volunteering to work on the Wiki page since I am computer savvy and have done other Wiki pages, and Princeton charges "The Ribbon" for work on the web site. About the logo size, I posted on "The Ribbon" talk page what I had copied from the Wiki page concerning graphics. It said usually the size is 300px, but there are occasions for a larger size. I wanted to have the text in the logo readable, and it only takes up 1/3 of the page. I had a break in the text, which was not cramped and it looked very nice. I have more text to add to the page, including pictures and editing to do. People around the country are having to dig in boxes for all the info and pictures from 35 years ago. I have been able to get the documentary posted on You Tube this last week. Thank you again for all the information and links and for your help. --Susan Macafee (talk) 06:31, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Susan Macafee, here's the entirety of what you wrote on the talk page, "I am waiting for an email reply from the Executive Director, who gave her approval and permission, which was sent to Wikipedia to use the logo image." Not sure how we're supposed to get "the official logo is changing" from that. And as you have a clear and definite conflict of interest, it ill-behooves you to accuse other editors, who are trying to make the article more neutral, of bolstering their egos. There are comments on the talk page on the content which you have not addressed. Are you going to or shall I start making changes to the article (which you probably won't like). --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:42, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

The new logo was put on the web site today. I have had to redo the logo again for the web site tonight, as you can see the text has been cut and there is a back ground color. http://www.theribboninternational.org/ NeilIN took it upon him self to download the image, delete the text and upload his version. I spent hours in Commons help tonight trying to get the text replaced. I didn't even have a chance to eat dinner. Commons could have told me I was going to have upload a new version, instead of telling me to clear the cashe on my computer. The are a number of people who have been contacted about donating photos and will be looking at the Wiki page, I wanted to restore the text, so they could see the text and the logo.Susan Macafee (talk) 06:59, 27 March 2014 (UTC) Thank you again Susan Macafee (talk) 07:27, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Let's try to reserve comments regarding The Ribbon International on the talk page, where it is most relevant. Civility in this dispute would also be greatly appreciated. Please don't make accusations about other editors, it only escalates tension. Thanks — MusikAnimal ^talk 15:34, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

I work during the day and spent last night working on a new image for the web site and dealing with the image you down loaded and deleted the text. Apparently you don't have a life other than Wikipedia. When I submitted the page for approval, I was expecting a 3-4 week lag time for the approval that would allow for additional additions and editing. I have a life other than Wikipedia. I have seen tags on pages that have been there for years, these tags have only been there for three days. Since you mentioned on the talk page there are thousand of other Wikipedia pages that need editing, why do you spend your time editing those pages, instead of bugging me and give me time to work on the page? Susan Macafee (talk) 17:52, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Monica Toft

Dear MusikAnimal, I just resubmitted my article for Monica Toft that you reviewed a couple of days ago. I changed the wording of the section that was problematic and added a new reference to her official CV (which lists all the awards and scholarships mentioned in the Wikipedia page). I am not sure if you will be the one reviewing the piece again but, in any event, thank you for your feedback. I hope the changes are sufficient. I will now get to work on something new.

Best wishes Manuelmuniz75 (talk) 07:41, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

@Manuelmuniz75: Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you! I noticed the reference was to her official CV on the Oxford University website. This seems good, but it's unclear if she wrote it. Do we have a reference unrelated to the subject? Unfortunately this weekend I will be pretty busy, but I can visit your submission in greater detail come next week, and will provide you with more feedback. Have a great weekend! — MusikAnimal ^talk 21:54, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you, guitarrist and game developer, for "always seeking something new", for quality articles such as Better Out Than In and Major Mite, for your ambitious work on Chicago and New York, for helping new people and articles, for missing, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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Wow, thanks! The PumpkinSky Prize, this is very thoughtful and encouraging. What an honour! — MusikAnimal ^talk 14:52, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello from sb236

Hi,

I'm disappointed, to say the least, by the way you deleted my logo without even asking me. It happens to be that I as the media director of Kohelet Policy Forum have the rights to the logo. I would like you to undelete it as soon as possible and to clear my name from the accusation of violating copyrights.

Thank you,Sb236 (talk) 13:05, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Hey! Please see your talk page where I've given you instructions on how to re-add the logo. Non-free content is not accepted on Commons, as Commons is a repository of media that is used all over the world, so they cannot be subject to any copyright restrictions. On Wikipedia you can upload logos under the proper rationale for use in articles. Again, refer to your talk page for more. I understand you may not be familiar with this process, and not to worry your place here on Wikipedia is not at stake as a result of this. Let me know if you need help! — MusikAnimal ^talk 14:30, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I Uploaded the logo from the original PDF I have (I just minimized it). However, I'll appreciate your help in re-adding it. Sb236 (talk) 14:52, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Sb236, I apologize, as per non-free content policy, AfC submissions are not in the mainspace and therefore cannot contain non-free media. This is not to say the logo can not be used, we just have to wait until the article is accepted and published. Alternatively, you can donate the image for use on Wikipedia. This will start the process to get an OTRS ticket in place on the item proving that Wikipedia has permission to use it. After that it will be acceptable at Commons, where it should go. As I said on your talk page, donating images may be a little complicated. If I were you I'd just wait for the article to be published and we can then promptly add the image. I'd more than happy to help you with that when the time comes. Sound okay? — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:05, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

OK. Suppose I upload a different photo which isn't a logo, just a picture from a recent convention we held, would it be OK? what is holding the article from being published? If it's just the logo - I'll remove it. Sb236 (talk) 07:39, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Any copyrighted material should not be uploaded until the article is in the mainspace. Please see the comments on the submission page about any outstanding issues with this article. Once they are resolved you can resubmit it for review. I personally still have my concerns that the subject meets the notability guideline, but maybe another reviewer will think otherwise. I highly recommend reviewing WP:CORP and ensure the subject meets the outlined criteria before putting too much more effort into your submission. Just know that, unfortunately, not everything can be on Wikipedia. — MusikAnimal ^talk 15:03, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Badagas

sir,im from the badaga community and i find the photo used in the wikipedia page to depict badagas as racial.it was taken some 90 years back and is completely irrelevant now as it has the tendancy to hurt the feelings of the vibrant and proud badaga community of the nilgiris.The badagas are one of the most educated communities of india with a literacy level higher than the national average.It is a humble request from myself and my badaga brothers and sisters to please remove it. Abhisheknavy (talk) 17:02, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I assume you are the same user as 115.254.53.121. If so, you have been removing not just the photo, but large amounts of sourced material from this article. If you have concerns with the photo, I recommend you bring them up on the talk page. I personally see no problem as the photo clearly states it was taken in 1909, perhaps it is meant to be retained for historical purposes. — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:10, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

you may not have any personal problems with it but it is racial and can give a mixed opinion of our community to the outsiders.so i request you to remove it.and the reason i tried to remove the other contents are because of the inaccurate representation of facts regarding badaga history and the claim to a ST status which a vast majority of our community are opposed to.Though the presence of the latter is not a problem,the photo should be removed citing one group's interest,please look into it.for more accurate and productive information about the badagas please refer to http://badaga-origin.blogspot.in/ and http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Badagas.html. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhisheknavy (talk • contribs) 17:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

please refer to the following links before editing anything,atleast have the courtesy to give the right information. http://badaga.wordpress.com/ http://badaga.in/ baduga.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhisheknavy (talk • contribs) 18:08, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

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i was trying to undo 2 edits by that user and add Recurring guest stars back in the article+ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:7:1940:4B:8C8F:992B:1142:283C (talk) 19:46, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

The revision you undid was the one that removed the disruptive material. Not to worry if this was an honest mistake :) Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 19:59, 2 April 2014 (UTC)