Mgnotley

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November 2010

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Minuet step has been reverted.
Your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline from Wikipedia. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. I removed the following link(s): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yurw5Cf4HY, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-a2D0Rwr8w. If the external link you inserted or changed was to a media file (e.g. a sound or video file) on an external server, then note that linking to such files may be subject to Wikipedia's copyright policy and therefore probably should not be linked to. Please consider using our upload facility to upload a suitable media file.
If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other, constructive, changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! --XLinkBot (talk) 13:34, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

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Alright - I am a beginner, I admit it. However - I did NOT add back the external links to YouTube. I added back the rest of the article WITHOUT the links. XBot suggested that I should do this (quote: "feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link"). At the same time I asked for help using {{helpme}} on the talk page to see if there was a way round the issue. The article is an improved description of the dance step which should be more understandable to the lay person. The previous artticle had an editors' request asking that somebody rewrite the page to be more understandable to the lay person. Before submitting the article in the first place I proposed it on the talk page and waited a week but got no reaction. Mgnotley (talk) 15:02, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Are you looking for help or just explaining? If you're not asking for help, please don't use a template like this, as it adds you to a list of users needing help. Instead, you can use {{tlc|helpme}}. If you do need help, feel free to re-add the template without using tlc. — GorillaWarfare ^talk 17:14, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, I give up! The existing article on the Minuet Step had an editor's note asking for someone to rewrite it. Since I had just researched the subject, I contributed an article which was clear, informative and unbiased. I had added a relevent and informative YouTube link, but was asked to remove it and I did so. My new submission was deleted again and I was lectured by Lerdthenerd who appears not to have read my new submission. Confused as how to proceed, I asked for help and was lectured again by GorillaWarfare. You can read the detailed history above. Sadly, all I am getting is aggression so I won't bother. Mgnotley (talk) 10:45, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

I came to your talk page to indicate that I agree that your edit was a decided improvement and that the link (I only looked at the first one) illustrated clearly what you said (I commented on this in the Minuet step talk page).

As I read your talk page, I agree with your comments and do not understand why your text was reverted, since XLinkBot gave no explanation of why he reverted the edit in the edit summary and talked in generalities, not explicitly addressing this specific reversion, on your talk page. GorillaWarfare's comments are probably valid, but I confess I don not understand his suggestion as to how to get further help. As to deleting the youtube link, I have seen other youtube links on wikipedia. I think policy on allowing youtube links is not uniform. Different editors interpret the same guidelines differently. Fortunately your link remained in the talk page, and I was able to find the information I was looking for, viz., to see what the dance consisted of, so that I could decide for myself it's relation to the modern waltz.

I hope you are not permanently disenchanted with editing for wikipedia. I have occasionally had edits reverted by editors I think acted stupidly and ridiculed me besides, but this not always what happens.68.173.171.34 (talk) 07:20, 21 April 2011 (UTC)