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Help needed: Jayne Mansfield

A mid-importance article supported by WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers that was reviewed by Version 1.0 Editorial Team and selected for Version 0.7 and subsequent release versions. The article has come a long way from a fan boy mish mash to a fair enough GA. Now is the time to take it to the next level. Currently it's going through another peer review. Serious help is needed to clean up the copy. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 10:19, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

WP:IPCEXAMPLES

Hi. I saw that you deleted some popcult items from Exhibitionism. I'm not going to contest the deletion, becauise they were borderline notable, but I did want to point out that WP:IPCEXAMPLES, which you cited in your edit summary, is an essay, and is not policy (which must be followed) or a guideline (which it is recommended to follow). Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 16:21, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

I understand. Thank you for pointing that out. Although I recognize it as a matter of opinion, I agree with most of the essay's points; I think it is truly a helpful guide for determining inclusion/exclusion of popular culture references (in sections which, untended, can grow toward an exhaustive list of mentions in popular culture, regardless of relevance), and I honestly think that the two examples listed added very little to the article or to the understanding of the topic. I would not have re-deleted it but for the fact that I saw other editors attempting the same thing (i.e. in agreement with me). Sincerely, MattMauler (talk) 16:43, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Really, no problem from me with your actions at all. I'm very strongly in favor of allowing popcult sections in articles, but I also recognize that this creates a responsibility to stop them from growing like topsy, and I frequently remove trivial mentions and non-notable items from them. Best, Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:00, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Writer's Barnstar
		Nice job on creating Henry Kitchell Webster! Its amazing how many notable writers are still out there without articles!--Milowent • hasspoken 17:08, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

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Copy Editing

Hai, this Indian film article Loham needs copy editing for grammer and writing style. Previously submitted for GA but failed due to language problem. See Talk:Loham. I invite you to help a hand on it.--Charles Turing (talk) 13:04, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

OK. I would be glad to help, and I will, but I cannot start any substantial editing until the weekend, unfortunately, 23 October. I will start soon. --MattMauler (talk) 00:49, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

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Wow, fancy color gradient!

Hey, I love that button customization! If you like to, I'll add it to the examples on Template:User_new_message_large/doc. Or feel free to do so yourself, especially if you have not been editing in the template area before. This might be a nice start for getting a feeling of Wikipedia's template namespace. For me, it was. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:32, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, ToBeFree! As the note in the markup says, I modified what I saw on KatnissEverdeen's talk page in order to get what you see here. If you want to add it to the template page, that's fine. I will/would do it eventually, but since there would be a small learning curve for me (as you noted, I have edited very little in template space), it would likely be five to ten days before I got around to it. Either way is fine. --MattMauler (talk) 21:57, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Hehe, that's nice :) And feel free to take your time, don't hurry. If you'll do it one day, I'd prefer letting you do it yourself, exactly for the learning curve -- you can't break anything, and the documentation is on a separate page that can't disrupt the main template. Even if you would somehow (which I don't believe) manage to mess up the syntax of the documentation page, nothing bad will happen. The template won't be affected, and the edit can easily be undone at any time. You may also use the Wikipedia:Sandbox, or a page like User:MattMauler/sandbox to store a copy that you can experiment with.

I will now add another nice color modification that I have seen on JackintheBox's talk page to the example list. You might like to have a look at the history of Template:User_new_message_large/doc to see how I did that.

But also remember that you don't have to, and if you'd prefer me to do it for you, just ping me with {{u|ToBeFree}} and I'll do it ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:50, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

proud boys edit

Your edit to the copy here didn't seem to be typo fixing. I'm alerting you to the fact that I reverted it because I was confused about the summary and I'm not sure what the improvement was. Could you please clarify in the summary if you decide to re-revert. Thanks. Edaham (talk) 05:08, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

As you can see by looking at the history, the prev version reads, "but although McInnes has denied the group is alt-right, is it one is is one of the few such groups still strongly active after a year in which the broader movement has been battered by lawsuits, deplatforming, and infighting." Clearly confusing and clearly typos, repetition, etc. My edit fixed this. I have not been hanging around the page for any length of time, so you are welcome to add to or change the version I introduced, or to ask for further clarification, but a straight-up revert seems unwarranted from my perspective. I think the changes I made make the lead much clearer. Which part of my version, specifically is unclear?--MattMauler (talk) 17:07, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

You are correct in saying that I did slightly more than change typos, attempting to make the sentence clearer. I did not, however, alter the meaning (at least as far as I can tell). I have just redone my edit and added a more specific edit summary. Please let me know if there is still confusion.--MattMauler (talk) 17:14, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

BTW, I really appreciate you approaching me here and explaining your initial revert.--MattMauler (talk) 17:16, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

I was erring on the safe side as that article is prone to dubious edits with murky edit summaries. Your change does seem to shorten and simplify the sentence somewhat. Thanks for being patient. Apologies if I was knee-jerking a bit. It’s one of those articles. Edaham (talk) 17:32, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

That's understandable! I know that "Fixed typos" is up there with "Added content" on the list of questionable/murky summaries, particularly on a contentious article.--MattMauler (talk) 17:42, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

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Silent Film

Hi Matt, I approve of your edit, shortening the refs to a modern silent film, Silent Times. In fact, I contemplated removing the entire section - it smells strongly of self-promotion. Other notable films, e.g. world-famous, Oscar-nominated Aki Kaurismäki's Juha (nomination declined, however - interesting story) are only mentioned in one or two sentences. Do you agree that the section seems promotional? The nominations/awards are from quite minor venues per IMDB. Shall I remove, or at least shorten the lengthy Silent Times synopsis? Regards, --Janke | Talk 09:09, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

User:Janke: It does sound promotional, I agree, and I would be fine with either reducing it or even removing it completely. I began editing the section, drawn to it by the bare URLs, but I have no attachment to it. Thanks a lot for checking!--MattMauler (talk) 12:47, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

The Lord of the Rings

The only reliable source for what this book is about would be JRR Tolkien.

As Tolkien has now sadly passed away, it must be left to other scholars to suggest possible meanings and allegories for the Lord of the Rings.

If you were to check the reference sources quoted, you may discover a number of similarities between the symbolism for the 'Order of the Garter' and the 'Lord of the Rings'.

Best Regards,

Bill Stradling — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill stradling (talk • contribs) 13:13, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Responded on your talk page.--MattMauler (talk) 13:35, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi Matt,

The Lord of the Rings is full of puzzles and riddles.

The title of Tolkien's book is clearly another riddle to be solved...

I've not come across a better solution to this riddle than the one proposed by Drew Maloney -

Even the founding location of the Knights of the Garter is closely connected with Oxford where Tolkien was Professor of English.

What would be your definition of a reliable source in the context of explaining the meaning behind the book title of the 'Lord of the Rings'?

As I pointed out earlier, Tolkien would be the only person who could truly answer this puzzle.

I suggest you leave this possible interpretation for the meaning behind the Lord of the Rings on the Wikipedia page unless you can come up with a better answer to this riddle.Bill stradling (talk) 14:22, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

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Quick question

I am not in favor of unnecessary dead-naming, but what is the policy you were citing in this edit? Cheers, --SVTCobra (talk) 22:53, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

@SVTCobra. It's MOS:MULTIPLENAMES: "In the case of transgender and non-binary people, birth names should be included in the lead sentence only when the person was notable under that name." I should have put it in the edit summary, but I didn't because it has come up SO many times on the same article.--MattMauler (talk) 03:23, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I am not saying you should have, I've just seen it said so many times without reference, I thought I'd ask you. Thank you for answering. Cheers, --SVTCobra (talk) 03:30, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome. Happy to clarify.--MattMauler (talk) 03:37, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

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White nationalism

Hi - the only way to deal with the sock edits was to revert deeply, which removed this. I couldn't figure out where to put it. Sorry. Doug Weller talk 10:19, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks for alerting me. I have now changed the "publisher" parameter to "website" to both avoid the CS1 error and preserve the italics (which CS1 templates add automatically for websites, but not publishers).--MattMauler (talk) 01:04, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Long day

Goodness knows how I managed that. Thanks for the catch. GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:53, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

No problem!--MattMauler (talk) 03:59, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

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Follow up question to the BoM Historicity

Hi Matt.I fear that this question might get lost in the noise, so I wanted to ask you directly here. Do you see any issue with the wording in the lede of this version of Moroni (Book of Mormon)? --FyzixFighter (talk) 18:03, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Answered on article talk.--MattMauler (talk) 18:15, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Mughal Empire Flag

The flag with the sun and the lion was used by the Mughals. I verified it from following sources

• [[1]]

The flag of the Mughal empire is a rectangular green triangular banner with a lion in front of a sun, both motifs being gold. It is surrounded by red.

• [[2]]

The first two carry the lion with the sun behind it. Lion (or "Babur" in Persian, the lingua franca of the empire) was also the name of the founder of the Empire, Zaheer-ud Deen Muhammad Babur.

• [[3]]

The Lion and Sun is an old Persian emblem that was re-used by the Mughals that identify strongly with Persian culture.

• [[4]]

The Mughal Empire had a number of imperial flags and standards. The principal imperial standard of the Mughals displayed a lion and sun. The Mughals traced their use of this flag back to Timur [19]. About the historical Persian flags, it can help us the Encyclopaedia Iranica website [20]. Both the Sun and Golden Lion are symbols of kingship and royalty

• Flags of the Mughal Empire

The principal imperial standard of the Mughals was known as the alam (Alam علم). It was primarily moss green.[1] It displayed a lion and sun (Shir-u-khurshid شیر و خورشید‎) facing the hoist of the flag. The Mughals traced their use of the alam back to Timur.[2]

Fictional Flag

What could have I done if somebody uploaded the flag image with that name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemo 838 (talk • contribs)

1. Of the above sources, it looks like only the final one (by Sparavigna) appears to be reliable (see WP:RS), and that source does not have an image of the flag (or at least I was unable to find it).

2. I based my revert only on the description of the image on Wikimedia Commons, which states that it is fictional. I am not well versed in the requirements and policies around adding flags to articles like these, so that is all I was going on. The Wikipedia page to which you link in your comment, Flags of the Mughal Empire, also labels it as fictional. To be honest, I am not certain why it remains up on that page either. This image from that article seems like it might have better historical support, based on design from the time period.

3. The other user who reverted your edit before me referred to a policy unfamiliar to me in their edit summary (the link to it didn't work), so there might be another issue with the addition of the flag, but I am not sure what that is, so I recommend you approach them about it or bring it up on the article talk page.--MattMauler (talk) 21:09, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

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Frederick Remington

Hi MackMauler! I'm related to Frederick Remington. Our paternal lineage comes from a Puritan who departed from England in about 1633. Please refer to Richard Remington who was a pastor at St Mary's Church, Lockington, East Riding, Yorkshire, England. I'm not sure how to get you my email in a less public way The Pete's (talk) 07:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Oops, MattMauler The Pete's (talk) 07:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Dorothy Pitman Hughes

Dorothy Pitman Hughes was not a founder of Ms. magazine. The article about Dorothy and Gloria Steinem in Esquire magazine helped demonstrate the need for a women's-controlled media outlet. This fact is based on the Dorothy Pitman Hughes archives at Smith College. Please see Laura L. Lovett, With Her Fist Raised: Dorothy Pitman Hughes and the Transformative Power of Community Activism. Boston, MA: Beacon Press, 2021. Professor Lovett's research is based on interviews with Pitman Hughes. She arranged to have the material donated to the archives. This claim is just false and should be removed! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.98.201.145 (talk) 18:05, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

It would be better to raise this issue on the article's talkpage where other frequent editors of the article can see it. Thank you for citing a secondary source for support. This will be important for demonstrating to others on the article talkpage as well.--MattMauler (talk) 02:03, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Mehmed the Conqueror

Hi, regarding ur edit at Mehmed the Conqueror, Laonikos Chalkokondyles is not a secondary source. To quote WP:USEPRIMARY:

- A primary source was a source that was created at about the same time as the event, regardless of the source's contents. Laonikos Chalkokondyles lived and wrote his works during the life of Mehmed and it's knows to have personally witnessed some of the events regarding Mehmed.

- [secondary sources]  it describes, comments on, or analyzes primary sources. Laonikos Chalkokondyles does not describe, comment on or analyzers primary sources, because he's the primary source.

- The first published source for any given fact is always considered a primary source. At this point, they make it obvious. Laonikos is the first one to explicitly describe the Sultan's sexual tendencies and his relationship with Radu the Fair. There are others things that suggest it, like Radu's nickname in Romanian ("the Beautiful", referring to effeminate features).

Now a quick question: What type of source is a book from 1992 about Mehmed II (Babinger, Franz (1992), ""Mehmed the Conqueror and His Time"")? It's beyond any doubt a secondary source. Please check all sources before targeting only the sources you don't like. Thanks! Cheers! --213.233.110.242 (talk) 08:55, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Did you come to the right editor's talkpage? Please look at my edit summaries again. I know that Chalkokondyles is a primary source, so I removed the extended quotation from his work and referred to the WP policy. I also know that Babinger is a secondary source, so I re-added him when another editor tried to remove content from his source. In my edit summary for that second edit, I stated clearly that Babinger and Hanak are scholarly secondary sources. ... So it sounds like we're in agreement(?)
Also, in the future, please bring things like this up on the article talkpage rather than here.--MattMauler (talk) 11:31, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I believe this edit [5] belongs to you. You invoked the fact that the quotation was too long, but removed my edit as a whole. I will adjust my edit and cut the quote short since it's true that it's too long. I saw there are many attempts from Turkophiles users to remove my content since it s regarded as offensive. But this is Wikipedia, so truth shall prevail. I suggest enabling an edit protection on the page in the future.

PS: Sorry if I sounded argumentative, that wasn t my intention. Cheers! --213.233.110.242 (talk) 20:28, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Love (TV series)

I undid my own mistake. I added the producers before I realized they were already listed as executive producers so it was just unnecessarily repetitive. Generally when undoing my own edits after realizing I made a mistake I don't add a reason to my edit as I'm erasing my own edit. Thanks. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 23:40, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

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ContraPoints edit

Heyya,

I've posted a new thread on the talk page, as per your suggestion, but I was wondering how I could source the information, as the link to the instagram post seems a little messy. Also I'm not sure how the neutrality of the article could be affected by adding something that ContraPoints has posted publicly.

Thank you so much in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by LivvyPool (talk • contribs) 08:35, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

@LivvyPool:, I've answered your questions on the article talkpage; thanks for starting that conversation.--MattMauler (talk) 18:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

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Ophelia Pastrana

Hello,

You just created a conflict of editions in the article of Ophelia Pastrana. I am actively working on it as you can see with the two templates shown at the beginning of the article. You just made me loose a whole section I was actively creating. I would suggest you to please respect the work of others. Your help is appreciated but please do so in articles that don not contain templates indicating that other editors are woking on it. Marifer Veloz (talk) 18:05, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

@Marifer Veloz:, I understand, and I am sorry about that.
Please see MOS:GENDERID. Was Ophelia a notable person under her previous name? If not, it does not look like it should be included, according to WP guidelines.
Thanks for the work you are doing. I will wait until you are finished to edit any more.--MattMauler (talk) 18:15, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

There will be blood

Your statement is not the way the Development section of the film says it happened when you state: "Schlosser's book Fast Food Nation was compared to the The Jungle, not There Will Be Blood". It says it was a two step process; that he first read The Jungle and then read the book "Oil". He then only used the first 150 pages of Oil, and the rest was developed from his other readings of Sinclair's books starting with The Jungle. If you can word it better then that's fine, though reverting it fully does not seem correct. HenryRoan (talk) 02:52, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

@HenryRoan:, my statement in the edit summary was in response to the text I removed, which said The film There Will Be Blood has been compared to Sinclair's The Jungle, which is false. Even in the There Will Be Blood Wikipedia article, it does not say that the film was compared to The Jungle.
I know that P. T. Anderson read the book Oil! and then used only the first 150 pages for the adaption. It is still unclear to me how the text was relevant to this article, which about The Jungle. The other article is about a film version of a different one of Sinclair's novels. Yes, Schlosser read The Jungle and then bought the rights to Oil!, but it seems like too tenuous of a connection to me for The Jungle article itself. I think if there were a longer "legacy" section, then perhaps it could go there, but even then I would leave out the part about Oil! entirely and just say that Schlosser's Fast Food Nation was compared to The Jungle because The Jungle became the best-known example of book-length muckraking journalism (...even though it's a novel). At this point, we would need more than this factoid to create a "legacy" section, I think, but it could eventually be included, perhaps.--MattMauler (talk) 15:25, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

A legacy section sounds like a good idea for the book article. Its likely a good idea for the film article as well. I have added a little to the adaptations section for The Jungle which gives more weight to that section, eventually there might be enough for the Legacy section which you suggest. You can edit the wording I added to improve it as needed. HenryRoan (talk) 02:17, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

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Hi MattMauler,

I saw your work on articles related to anarchism and wanted to say hello, as I work in the topic area too. If you haven't already, you might want to watch our noticeboard for Wikipedia's coverage of anarchism, which is a great place to ask questions, collaborate, discuss style/structure precedent, and stay informed about content related to anarchism. Take a look for yourself! We also have a stub (short article) expansion drive, if you'd like to participate.

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Need a referral for UTUBE upload to article.

Hi MattMauler: Pardon my ignorance, but I have looked at tutorials online, wiki wizard uploads, and what not. Not sure how to load a public domain video from circa 1894: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN8ohCW00fs and add it to Fun in a Chinese Laundry (memoir). Can I load it onto my flashdrive? Nothing seems to work. Know a good sport who might educate me? Lord Such&Such (talk) 19:00, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

@Lord Such&Such:I have uploaded pics, but I have never uploaded a video. I know that with extra software, downloading YouTube videos as MP3s is possible. Subscribing to YouTube Premium also allows downloads, but I think there are limitations on how the file can be used then. I recommend asking at WP:Help desk or perhaps WP:Village pump (technical). I suspect the former is a better fit for your question since even though I haven't run into your exact challenge, I suspect many editors have. I totally understand needing to talk to an actual editor rather than relying on wizards and instructions. I hope this helps.--MattMauler (talk) 13:37, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Pardon me if the first part of my comment is unclear. I am assuming that a downloaded file would work better with on-wiki instructions than an YouTube link, so that is why I mentioned the download possibility. I don't think YouTube has any official checkbox or different designation for public domain video, but I could be wrong.--MattMauler (talk)

Dear MM: Perhaps I'll limit myself to literary contributions and pics rather than Utube: so far, so good. Your comments are welcome and appreciated, nonetheless.--Lord Such&Such (talk) 19:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Band of Angels (novel)

On 13 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Band of Angels (novel), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that literary critic Leslie Fiedler called the novel Band of Angels "operatic in the worst sense of the word"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Band of Angels (novel). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Band of Angels (novel)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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