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Sorry about jumping the gun.

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It would help to use a { {In use} } or { {IUnder construction} } tag when you are writing an article, or keep it in your Sandbox until it is ready. Good luck! BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 03:58, 13 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Looks OK - just added a proper reflist and links to faculty page. Just one thing - are you sure this person attended Lancaster? I can't find any references to this online.

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Just been looking through your other new articles and made a few similar additions to on the Adolphs one; hope you don't mind.

I don’t normally create new articles on academics, but I think you'd find it easier if you use a standard checklist of what to put in. I'd say make sure every article you write has:

  • An academic's current or best-known position in the intro - that makes it much easier for reviewers to judge their notability, since a tenured professor is more likely to be notable
  • An external link to their faculty webpage (and possibly their blog/Twitter page) at the bottom - this is arguably the most important single thing on the page since it's where a reader will probably want to go next
  • A reflist (maybe set to 30em to give columns if you have a lot of references)
  • A brief summary of their research in the intro, maybe with more further down.

That makes it easy for a reviewer to quickly verify that the person's notable, the article isn't a hoax, there's no issue of copyright violation in the research summary and so on. But any questions just ask. Blythwood (talk) 17:17, 3 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Digital Anthropology research

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Hello LingLass, My name is Stephanie Barker and I am a student at the University of Colorado Boulder. I am currently enrolled in a Digital Anthropology class, which attempts to answer how the digital world affects culture and how culture affects the digital world. For my final project I am doing an ethnography on women Wikipedia users and as a member of the WikiProject Women page I was hoping I could ask you some questions about your experiences editing Wikipedia pages. 1. Have you ever been locked into an intense editing war? If yes, please explain the situation to me. 2. How did you become interested in editing Wikipedia pages and did you have any initial fears/hesitations when you started editing pages? 3. Have you ever been a victim of a mass deletion or other vandalism on Wikipedia? If yes, please explain the situation to me. 4. How would you describe your gender? 5. Is there anything else you would like to share with me about your experiences as a Wikipedia editor? Thank you for taking the time to read this email. I would like you to know that I am only sharing my research with my professor and the other students in my class. If you would like me to send you a copy of my final project, I would be more than happy to! Sincerely, Stelba90 (talk) 01:02, 2 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you!

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Hi, yes. I am teaching a class and was trying to show a student how to link to another student's sandbox. This should obviously not be a page on it's own. I'll get it cleaned up. LingLass (talk) 18:24, 1 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Tis gone:) ϢereSpielChequers 18:33, 1 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
Oh, ok, I'm sorry, I had misinterpreted it. But I think it would have been better to talk to an admin to erase the page when you finished the lesson. Super Ψ Dro 19:33, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
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This is now the worst possible kind of article you can write on an academic: is there anything in there that was not simply copied from a resume? And no, a list of articles does not establish notability; even a tenure committee wants an explanation of journal notability and acceptance rates. Drmies (talk) 23:18, 25 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

They were gathered from Google Scholar. At discipline editathons, new editors are told that a helpful way to expand a stub is to add publications to linguist bios so that there is a place for other editors to add reviews of the works via references, and a chance for others to see which works have high Google Scholar hits, which is both a way to show notability of an academic, and a way for other editors to know which content might be built upon in other paragraphs. LingLass (talk) 01:18, 26 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

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Hi @Sgnpkd:, Yes, within the Tibeto-Brman language family, a group in Vietnam is known as Lô Lô, while the groups in China are called Yi. Here’s some sources:

1) According to Edmondson and Gregerson (2007)

“In Vietnam the Tibeto-Burman groups are all speakers of the Lolo-Burmese subgroup and include the Hà Nhì, Sila, Cóng, Phù Lá, Lô Lô, and La Hu. These languages all have monosyllabic isolating word structure with SOV word order.

6.2.1. The Lô Lô Group The Lô Lô (population about 1500) are found in the northeastern sections of Hà Giang and western Cao BAng. There are, in fact, three different forms of this language: (i) the Black Lô Lô, (ii) the Red Lô Lô, and (iii) the Flowery Lô Lô, with these names taken again from the clothing of their women. There has been until recently little information about this language group. The Lô Lô of Vietnam have uvular stops and are allied with groups just across the border in China whose languages are very similar (cf. Edmondson 2005).” p. 744. (Jerold A. Edmondson and Kenneth J. Gregerson. “The Languages of Vietnam: Mosaics and Expansions.” Language and Linguistics Compass 1/6 (2007): 727–749.)

2) A group speakers of this larger language family are the Yi, who live in China. There is a dissertation on some of these languages that are spoken in China: (Lama, Ziwo Qiu-Fuyuan (2012), Subgrouping of Nisoic (Yi) Languages, thesis, University of Texas at Arlington.) It’s archived at the UTA repository here: http://hdl.handle.net/10106/11161.

3) This language family contains quite a number of languages. See for example the page “List of lesser-known Loloish languages: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/List_of_lesser-known_Loloish_languages

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This is what I was talking about: User:Clovermoss/Editor reflections. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:23, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! These look great. I'm enjoying browsing them. I might also contribute.
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Feel free to pitch in :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:57, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

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