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Dougweller Good luck, and have fun. --dougweller (talk) 18:07, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Petra

The Rekem addition could be interesting but without a WP:FOOT from a WP:RELY source, how can anyone assess its quality? We cannot figure out if an editor copied this from a bad source and is actually misinformation. We would like to avoid that. Please help by supplying a citation. Thanks. Student7 (talk) 23:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Ken, I've given you a welcome message about with lots of links. Please especially read the links Student7 mentions above. Personal comments really should not be in articles, and you and I are not reliable sources unless we have published what we are using for the source (and then we shouldn't use it probably because of conflict of interest, but post it to the article talk page for someone else to use). Your edits just a few minutes ago really need reworking in this light. dougweller (talk) 16:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

David Kyrle Down

Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to David Kyrle Down, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses novel, unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. —Paul A (talk) 02:44, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Original research

Sorry but I've had to remove your comments at Behistun inscription. Have you read WP:OR yet? Dougweller (talk) 06:31, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know (and I hope this is the way to reply!) I have read the WP:OR and it seems to me that the photographs I posted are original sources; the conclusions drawn from them are - well, I don't know what you would call them! However please note that there is no reference given for the assertion I dispute, namely, that access is difficult and was deliberately made so. KendallKDown (talk) 15:16, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

See WP:RS as well. You really need to remove that edit. Basically you have two choices. Put a fact tag on the assertion - {{cn}} which a bot will come along and date, and wait a month or two, or delete it outright. Ideally editors should look for sources before they add fact tags. In your case, I guess you could do the 2nd, which is just remove the assertion entirely - you could put a comment in the edit summary explaining why. But your footnote is original research. We had a pilot once asking if he could use his personal experience in the same way you are, he was told definitely not. Dougweller (talk) 16:35, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, I have rewritten the footnote, removing all personal references and referring only to the photographs. Does that make it acceptable? I still find it strange that a wrong assertion - without reference - can be accepted but my contrary assertion is not, *because* it doesn't have a reference! KendallKDown (talk) 21:33, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

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Hmmmm. I've been thinking about this "original research" thing. My understanding was that Wikipedia was set up so that ordinary people could contribute knowledge from their own area of expertise. The "original research" rule means that ordinary people are only allowed to contribute if they can quote someone else talking about that other person's area of expertise.

I appreciate that Wikipedia wants to ensure accuracy and high standards, but it seems to me that this rule is directly contrary to the purpose and ethos of the original Wikipedia. If the pilot referred to by Doug Weller had some knowledge which no one else had, surely that is important? The only questions should be, is he telling the truth? Can he provide evidence in support of whatever it was that he knew? Anyone want to comment? KendallKDown (talk) 22:46, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

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David Kyrle Down

The above article is being improved to a higher quality and you are invited to help increase the WP:V and neutrality of the sources. You will notice that most of the article has been cut, due to the lack of referencing on the interview information. If you could provide a source to an outside website/book that contains these interviews, that would be great so they can be used to reinstate the content of the article.--Gniniv (talk) 09:30, 10 September 2010 (UTC) {{Wikiproject Young Earth Creationism invite}}

Response regarding David Kyrle Down

I wish I had seen this before the article was deleted. As one contributor to the discussion noted, David Down is fairly well known in archaeological circles in Australia, his magazine is extremely popular with the general public as well as academic institutions (high schools and universities stock it in their libraries) and has a growing number of contributors from among professional archaeologists in Australia. I fear that in the discussion I detected a degree of bias, based on a lack of knowledge about the field of archaeology (at least as it relates to Australia) and also possibly a bit of anti-Christian bias.

Regrettably, I do not have a copy of the article, otherwise I would re-submit it, addressing the point you raised about references.

Thank you for the invitation to Young Earth Creationism, but I fear that I have no expertise in that field. If you have any archaeology related material ... KendallKDown (talk)

Nomination of David Kyrle Down for deletion

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You may edit the article during the discussion, including to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. ScienceApologist (talk) 08:15, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Finlay Munro concern

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Your article submission Finlay Munro

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 22:01, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

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