Kallman1

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		I, I dream of horses, hereby give you, Kallman1, a running man barnstar for creating decent football season articles. I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 00:17, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

19** Wisconsin Badgers football team

I've noticed you're creating what appears to be an article for every year of the Badger's football season. While I appreciate that the pages are well done and look polished, I'm not sure we need an article for every season. These articles have no data other than the schedule the team played. I feel like that borders on WP:NOTSTATS and NOTALMANAC territory. If you have future plans to expand these articles with more information I could be persuaded otherwise, but I don't think simple schedules are sufficient or helpful for an encyclopedia.

Those kinds of statistics and alamantic data are better left on the site you're attributing and presumably getting this data from. The problem with lots of pages like this is that it makes them very hard to maintain and keep accurate; that has to be balanced against their utility. Anyway, I wanted to mention this to you before I nominated any for deletion, if I do so at all. Notwithstanding my opinion about this, the quality is professional and I appreciate that. It's not a reflection on you if in fact the pages are nominated for deletion. Shadowjams (talk) 21:41, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Standings templates

Kallman1, thanks creating all of the Wisconsin football season stubs. However, you're editing on the standings templates is not good. Template:1950 Big Nine football standings should not have been created. For a period in the 1940s and 1950s, between Chicago's departure and Michigan State's arrival, the Big Ten Conference indeed had nine teams, but it seems that the conference continued to be referred to as the Big Ten Conference. Whatever the case, what you're doing with the standings template is wrong procedurally. Please stop for now and I will be happy to explain more if need be. Thanks. Jweiss11 (talk) 00:22, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment on my talk page. Yeah, the history of the naming of the Big Ten Conference seems a little murky. Some more research is definitely needed, but for now let's leave everything be. You might want to bring this up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football to get some more people thinking about this. Also be sure to sign you comments on talk pages with four tildes (~). Thanks and let me know if you have any more questions. Jweiss11 (talk) 00:33, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Here's a newspaper article referring to the conference as both the "Big Ten" and the "Western Conference" in 1949: http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=WVgaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ICQEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4340,7112444. Jweiss11 (talk) 00:39, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Thats pre-Michigan State but its still Big Ten... and Western Conference... I say its good to stick with Big Ten if its known as Big Ten as its clearly the most recognized brand name. But I think pre-1917 should be changed to Western Conference. I like the idea of going with what it was best known as at the time

Thanks again

Kallman1, thanks again for your recent efforts to build articles for Wisconsin football. Check out Wikipedia:WikiProject College football and you'll find guides and resources for working on college football topics and a place to sync up with other editors working on similar stuff. You may also want to add yourself to Wikipedia:WikiProject College football/Participant List. All the best. Jweiss11 (talk) 05:23, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

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