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Hi Jen. I hope you are doing fine. How did you feel about the self-tilted not winning AOTY? Were you disappointed? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:48, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi @Jivesh boodhun:! I'm great thank-you, I hope you're doing well? As for your question as to whether I was disappointed, it's yes and no (and I have a long answer!). It's no because I did not share the same enthusiasm as Beyoncé's fans that she was "on lock" to win it. If you look at NARAS' voting history, particularly for Album of the Year, I think it's clear that succesful "urban" albums are shunned in favour of less succesful pop/rock records. Take Frank Ocean's Channel Orange losing to Mumford & Sons' Babel, or them not even nominating Kanye West's My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. This, coupled with the fact that Beyoncé is easily her most daring work, both sonically and thematically, meant that I watched the Grammys suspecting that she would not win.

That said, the thought that Beyoncé would win AOTY popped into my head on the day of its release. I watched Daft Punk win for Random Access Memories just two months after Beyoncé dropped, and thought it was promising that the Grammys had chosen not to award a less succesful, more conservative record. It was only when it drew closer to the ceremony that I did some more research into past winners, predictions and generally how albums are voted for, that I realised that its chances were skewed. I found Kanye's reference to the VMA incident with Taylor Swift funny until I realised he was actually serious, and although I found the whole "Beck should respect Beyoncé's artistry" comment ludicruous, I do believe that NARAS made the wrong decision. Not that Beck's Morning Phase is not brilliant, because it is (I listened to it, along with all the other nominees before the ceremony). It's just that Beyoncé's nuances show it, in my opinion, to be a much stronger album; of those nominated, there is little doubt in my mind that it will be (and is) the record with the most impact.

However, I suppose in some ways its fitting, because Beyoncé's intentions behind self-titled was to make the music she had always wanted to make. It was presented as a work that wasn't concerned with sales or promotion or accolades, but an attempt to make the best music she ever could. If her statement with Beyoncé, best expressed on "Haunted", is true—"Soul not for sale/ Probably won't make any money of this/ Oh well"—then losing AOTY is not hugely concerning. So yeah, I watched the Grammys last week apprehensively, hoping that she would win, but knowing that those chances were quite slim. Even then, the real shock was that Morning Phase won and not In the Lonely Hour. I'm still surprised she didn't win Best Urban Contemporary Album, but ultimately she did win three awards, so it cannot be regarded as a total snub. Anyway, I've dragged on a bit long here, but I have been thinking a lot about this, especially because I wish to take the Beyoncé article much further in the coming months, although only after I've rewritten some sections as I'm not totally happy with it at the moment. Best wishes, and again, I hope you're well! —JennKR | ☎ 21:36, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I am fine as well. Thanks. Just very busy with work. I enjoyed reading your post. You are simply great. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 03:37, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

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Beyoncé political party

Re [1], her membership of the Republican Party is sourced in the article to [2], however I'm not sure that she is (partisanly) politically active enough to warrant inclusion of this fact in the infobox. Also she may have changed party since this journalist found out, because I think in the US voters simply tick a box on a voter registration form to formally join a political party. But yeah, just thought I'd let you know that it is verifiable that she is/was a registered Republican. Adabow (talk) 19:45, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

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Beyonce net worth

I would like too bring up the issue of Beyoncé's net worth. She is obviously worth more than 250 mil and that was just what was reported from Forbes after a certain year excluding get time with destiny child please correct that error she is worth approximately 450 mil dollars Wednesday1996 (talk) 20:21, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Lemonade songs articles

Can you improve and revamp some of songs articles? 183.171.181.190 (talk) 19:50, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

183.171.181.190 Hey, my main focus in the coming week will be making improvements to the Self-Titled article, to hopefully get it up to FA standard. However, after that, I could possibly do some work on the Lemonade songs articles. Why not make an account yourself and edit the songs you feel need expanding? There is a dedicated WikiProject for Bey which you can join which provides a list of articles that need work and editors who may be willing to assist you. It's worth checking out. Best, —JennKR | ☎ 12:15, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, I've recently been working on this article and just wanted to get in touch with a native speaker who would review it for me, so that everything is grammatically correct and flows nicely. + I was thinking of adding to the article a phonetically written version of her name, if you know how to make those that would be great. I would really appreciate your help. ArturSik (talk) 05:36, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

GA reviewer

Jennie, do you still review GAs? I noticed you reviewed Black Swan (film). If you have some familiarity with ballet, I was wondering if you'd be willing to look at Martine van Hamel? Mkdw ^talk 23:55, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

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4 (Beyoncé album)

"4 has sold 1.5 million copies in the United States." Mike Christie is planning to run this one at TFA in June. Do you happen to have a more recent figure than 1.5M we can run on the Main Page, or is that still about right? - Dank (push to talk) 20:20, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

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Thank you for quality articles around Beyoncé such as 4 ("... the first time she truly vied for artistic credibility") and Beyoncé discography, for improving a book from your sandbox, for a clear user page, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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I undid your removal and revision of the songwriting content at Beyonce. The guideline you cited does not restrict content about controversy or criticism, but rather sections dedicated to such content, which is not the case here, as it begins with a broad overview of her songwriting credits and concludes with positive responses to the aforementioned controversy. Also, you removed an important note without explanation, saying that she has never received a sole writing credit, and you restored the previous iteration of the sentence about Beyonce's co-producing credit/melody formulation, but the source citing it is dated from 2003 and can only be referring to Dangerously in Love rather than "most of the records in which she has been involved, especially during her solo efforts", as you made it say. Please restrict any further activity over this section to the talk page, as it has been controversial enough in the recent past. isento (talk) 00:04, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@Isento: You reverted my edit in order to make the section an explicit "controversy" one instead of a general "songwriting" one, and cherry-picked negative comments from completely random musicians instead of the larger number of positive comments from her actual collaborators that fully explained her songwriting ability and style. It is unclear to me how it can be seen that you have been editing this section from a neutral point of view and with good faith. I'd really like to discuss this further but your previous harassment of me on here took a toll on my mental health and made editing an unenjoyable and stressful activity for me. Assuming you remain intolerant of me, I hope you do the right thing for this section and represent Beyonce's songwriting clearly and neutrally. Thank you. Bgkc4444 (talk) 18:42, 25 November 2020 (UTC)Bgkc4444

@Isento:, Thanks for the message about this. I wasn't aware of that talk page discussion, although it's only of some relevance to this issue (given that it's regarding the use of the term "songwriter" in the lead). I actually agree with your general position on that matter. I wouldn't describe Beyonce as a songwriter myself. In fact, I think that point goes to why I don't believe the songwriting section reads neutrally. I'm not sure why we need three long paragraphs that make the same point? In fact, those paragraphs are at least double, if not triple, the length of the preceding "Voice and musical style section". To me, that does not appear neutral or proportionate in the whole context of the article, particularly when we're asserting Beyonce isn't a songwriter. Further, the very idea that artists - including Beyonce - receive credits for minor/overstated contributions is not particularly controversial in the age of "writing camps" which are prolific with many mainstream pop/R&B recording artists. Having read it again, I think the content should be substantially condensed. Finally, whilst I appreciate you messaging me here, shouldn't you have restricted your activity to the article talk page before reverting? I think it would greatly assist if the opinions of other editors were considered. —JennKR | ☎ 00:14, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

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