User talk:JavaHurricane/Archive 2
Carthage 238 AD
Are you going to revert Materialscientist's edit on Battle of Carthage (238) for not adhering to "Manual of style"? --2001:8003:4085:8100:EDB3:F65:19B1:DC11 (talk) 08:37, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think so. He's told me what should be done. -- JavaHurricane 08:39, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
Reverting edits of a page about a specific product (car model) that the editor owns and uses every day.
Maerean (talk) 08:57, 7 March 2020 (UTC) "Hello, I'm JavaHurricane. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Volkswagen Passat (B8), but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it..."
You have reverted a big edit I have made to https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Volkswagen_Passat_(B8)#Passat_GTE
Just because some wikipedia content doesn't cite a source that doesn't make the content incorrect or added in bad faith.
You are allowed to revert changes only if you believe the content to be utterly incorrect or added in bad faith.
A missing source for the information is not basis enough to remove the content.
The truth value of the content being correct or incorrect is not related to a source being provided even if increases the faith in the content.
I will find sources to cite.
Not all information is present and linkable on the web.
There is little information on the internet about this specific car model. That's why I'm adding the information on its wikipedia page.
This is a car that I have owned for some time now.
As an owner of the product, my own experience is the source of the information.
Also, the content is a compilation of watching a lot of reviews (video content) on the internet on the specific category of products/cars.
I have presented the information in good faith in a neutral tone and a balanced approach, presenting both advantages and disadvantages.
Not all information provided by car manufacturers (that they advertise on their websites) is verified in real life even if one can easily provide it as a source.
Also, manufacturers only present the advantages of the product and the specific category of products.
Only the owners of the products get to learn the disadvantages once they use the product.
Do owners of specific car models and car types really need to create a website of their own and post their experience there just to have a citation url in the wiki page so you don't delete the content from Wikipedia so nobody can access it?
Please answer the above question about the process of editing wikipedia pages of specific car models. This is more relevant to rare models that haven't been sold in large numbers.
If you feel more citation is needed, please just add a "citation needed" note, don't delete the content entirely.
We shouldn't go into a loop of me adding content and value to a wikipedia page and you removing it.
That's not right. I ask you to improve the content and value of that specific page and not destroy it.
Please put back the content you have removed and add a "citation needed" note where you feel necessary.
I will search for the video reviews I have mentioned and add them as sources.
PS: I didn't find an actual Message/Reply option in wikipedia. I hope this is the way to have this conversation with you.
- I'm sorry, but Wikipedia policies (specifically WP:RS and WP:OR) clearly tell us that we cannot use original research in articles. All information here has to be cited with a reliable source. The information may be correct, but you'll have to provide a reliable source to back up your information; otherwise, the information may be summarily removed. -- JavaHurricane 09:03, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
Maerean (talk) 10:22, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
I have removed all my edits since they are based on my original research which (Wikipedia policies (specifically WP:RS and WP:OR) clearly tell us) cannot be used and is not a reliable source to be cited.
The section is back to its original state. Empty. And useless.
Anyone interested can read my original research on the Volkswagen Passat GTE B8 outside Wikipedia.
- Thank you! I do hope that you can get reliable sources so that you can put back the information on the page! -- JavaHurricane 10:26, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
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Thanks for welcoming me to Wikipedia! I have long been interested because it so closely aligns with both my values and interests, but I've been intimidated by its size. Glad to know there is a community that is looking out for new members. KnowledgeTempest (talk) 06:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC) |
- You're welcome dear! -- JavaHurricane 07:05, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Question about rejection of page draft: The Elephant in the Brain
Hi!
Thanks for taking the time to review the draft of the page for 'The Elephant in the Brain'. I wanted to ask you why the draft was rejected. The notice said the the subject does not qualify for a Wikipedia page as it is not notable enough. The [guidlines] suggest that if a book is the subject of two or more non-trivial, independent published works, then it meets the notability requirements. In the 'Reception' section of the article, I have cited significant reviews in the Wall Street Journal, The New Yorker and the New York Intelligencer, all of which are regarded as 'generally reliable' according to [these guidlines]. The significant coverage in three major, reliable sources, I believe satisfies the notability requirement. On top of this, I have cited reviews in Publishers Weekly and Quillette, as well as a minor review in National Review. While these last three reviews hold less weight than the first three I do not see why they would reduce the notability. Please could you explain your reasons for rejecting the article? Thanks, Alfredsph (talk) 11:18, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Alfredsph, hi! The main reason I rejected the draft is because it does not yet have a summary or lead long enough. I think that if you could expand the article further and cite sources about it, the article will pass. Thanks, and happy editing! JavaHurricane 11:33, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
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15 March 2020
Hi, I was updating my own page. If this is not possible that is fine. I am only expanding upon what is written there and also adding my new coauthored book. I am not sure how to verify the new book but it has an ISBN number. Is there a way to do this please. thanks Rosanna Hertz — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.149.1.19 (talk) 16:35, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- @73.149.1.19:, hi there! I am sorry, but Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy states that users must not edit articles about themselves except in the case of vandalism. If you wish to update your article, I recommend you to leave a message on the article's talk page detailing the requested edit. One of the contributors here will then make the changes you have requested.
On that note, I would like to invite you to create a Wikipedia account! You can create an account for free, and it makes it easier for us contributors to recognise you! Further, you can edit a wide range of articles as per your wishes. -- JavaHurricane 16:54, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Welcome to Articles for Creation
Welcome to reviewing drafts in AFC. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:01, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
I think you and I edit-conflicted when both declining the same drafts. That is not a problem. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:01, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Robert McClenon, I didn't encounter any problems, but thanks anyways! JavaHurricane 15:05, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
User:KM0019/sandbox
The page is neither promotional nor a misuse of Wikipedia as a webhost. Each paragraph on the page was clearly marked as copied from Lynn Conway and KM was clearly working on the text to improve it without fear of screwing up the live page. KM is a student trying to get to grips with the wiki - Special:Permalink/937154425. Please don't WP:BITE. Cabayi (talk) 20:27, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Draft:DIY hand sanitizer
I think the guidance you're looking for is WP:NOTHOWTO which is an argument for WP:MFD not a freestyle CSD. NOTWEBHOST is WP:U5, the U indicating it applies to userspace only. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 20:38, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
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Why did my update revert back to original text?
https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Medical_and_Dental_Defence_Union_of_Scotland
Hi there, I received two messages from you but I'm unclear what entries don't meet the guidelines? If I knew, I would remove them and continue without. Can you advise please? Thanks
- Hello. Your edits were inherently promotional and violated copyrights. Please don't make such edits again. Thank you! -- JavaHurricane 12:41, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Sock tagging
Do not tag userpages with sock templates as you did at User:Kart2409. It is wholly inappropriate.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:41, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- JH, how did you conclude Kart2409[1] as my sock? KartikeyaS (talk) 14:29, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- KartikeyaS343, massive error on my part. Sorry about that! JavaHurricane 14:43, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- No problem, cheers! KartikeyaS (talk) 14:44, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
your editing Wiki page
Hello! I saw you undid my work. What did I do wrong? DC — Preceding unsigned comment added by David T Cohen (talk • contribs) 15:55, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- David T Cohen, you are adding unsourced or unreliably sourced material to biographies of living persons, violating them Wikipedia policies about such articles. Hence I reverted your edits. JavaHurricane 16:07, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
I understand. But before my edits I spoke to the Person who confirmed all facts and provided me with the evidence. Be reassured: I would never allow myself to improper acts. In reality facts were all proven already. I just, with the Person agreement, put them in different context and updated recent developments. You can talk to him no problem. Very friendly. Do you want his email? David — Preceding unsigned comment added by David T Cohen (talk • contribs) 16:49, 28 March 2020 (UTC) Is my signature showing? The other day I had problems with it. David
- I am sorry, but you are not following the BLP policy. I understand that you are acting in good faith, but you are not providing reliable sources for your edits. Hence I am forced to revert your edits to comply with the policy. Please don't think that your edits are unacceptable altogether; we welcome contributions from all users, but all contributions must be sourced properly. I therefore request you to source your edits with reliable sources, so as to ensure compliance with the BLP policy. Thank you, and happy editing! -- JavaHurricane 16:54, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
I understand and I absolutely appreciate that editing is a serious matter. Please note, though, that my edits did not change the veracity nor the substance of the original version. I just made minor changes in the chronology and updated certain events. For example: The Saxony Hotel does not exist in Miami Beach any longer and is now branded Faena Hotel. I believe that is an accurate and useful information for all. The substance of the facts was left intact. Hence I would not know how to verify it more than what my predecessors did before me (and in any event I did again). The only new information I added concerns Cipriani-Milan which I sourced at https://www.newsgateny.com/cipriani-acquires-a-new-venue-in-milan-italy-3-2/ and/or https://milano.repubblica.it/cronaca/2020/01/06/news/cipriani_ristoranti_milano_palazzo_bernasconi-245072068/ and which was confirmed by Mr. Fabrizio Cerina, his email: redacted. I would be very grateful if you could help me out as I believe I did my homework quite well... David — Preceding unsigned comment added by David T Cohen (talk • contribs) 17:47, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- Have you read the BLP policy? We try to avoid using information from the subject himself if no sources are available to support said information. In this case, I see that you have obtained sources, so I think the information can stand. However, in many cases, using information given by the subject in the BLP without any supporting sources is considered to be original research, and often the information can be biased, violating the neutral point of view policy. Please read these policies and keep them in mind. Thanks! JavaHurricane 02:42, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Sure. Thanks for your explain! I also saw a COI. I would like to reassure all that I believe I absolutely have zero COI. Having said that, I would like to disclose that while I do not know personally the subject nor I've ever spoken to him, I did ask him (indirectly) to confirm a piece of information I obtained from various independent newspapers (links below). Last week I wrote to the public (info) email address of the bank the subject chairs. Yesterday I received a reply from his personal email address (maybe as it was no business day). They know that my news platform has been writing in the past about them. Only after such confirmation I thought it was a good idea to edit the wikipedia page. And I learned a lot :-) !! https://milano.repubblica.it/cronaca/2020/01/06/news/cipriani_ristoranti_milano_palazzo_bernasconi-245072068/ and https://forbes.it/2020/01/07/il-gruppo-cipriani-sbarca-a-milano-a-palazzo-bernasconi/ and https://financecommunity.it/cipriani-affitta-merope-palazzo-bernasconi-milano-gli-advisors-finanziari/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by David T Cohen (talk • contribs) 11:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion contested: James A. Fuller
Hello JavaHurricane, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of James A. Fuller, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. MrClog (talk) 09:10, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
- Hi JavaHurricane, additional comment regarding the G11 advertising tag on User:Abdullahikaragama/sandbox/HISTORY OF DAMBOA; it doesn't look like blatant advertising to me. However, it was a copyright violation of this, so I deleted it as such. As MrClog mentioned above, please consider reviewing the Criteria for Speedy Deletion to help make sure you're using the most applicable reason when tagging pages. Happy editing, and thank you for your help, SpencerT•C 14:36, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! JavaHurricane 14:48, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Gridman draft
Character. But if you're confused with it, sure. I'll slice out unneeded parts. Maybe in 12-24 hours or so.Zero stylinx (talk) 09:24, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
RJ Griffith draft
Hi Java,
I was under the impression that less is more when trying to get a new public figure approved. RJ has done some impressive things and I thought I provided some good credible sources which included IMDB, Major League Baseball, Fox 32 Chicago, etc. I know RJ isn't a major star, but I've seen similar artists with less content and sources approved.
I can add additional info and sources, but wanted to start by adding the best ones to get him approved and then maybe build on it from there. I'm relatively new to this so not sure if that's the right approach? If you can provide me any more specific suggestions that could help me get this approved that would be very helpful. Thank you and hope you and yours are safe and healthy!
- Hi there! Thanks for your wishes! I would advise you to read through WP:RS once to understand what is a reliable source - there is a reason why we don't consider IMDb to be a reliable source. Also, if he has been doing impressive things, add them! Source them as well. If you can get more sources and more information, I'm certain that the article will pass. Happy editing, best of luck, and stay safe! -- JavaHurricane 17:48, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
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Thanks for rejecting my article softly :) Xikuuky (talk) 18:38, 1 April 2020 (UTC) |
- Oh, thanks! I've not rejected the draft, only declined it for now, so that you can improve it! Happy editing! -- JavaHurricane 02:34, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
NOTWEBHOST
Hey! I saw your nom at MfD, I'm not quite sure what you mean by it violating NOTWEBHOST (and U5 as an extension). This is why I proposed a userfication instead... but your nom implies this would be unacceptable as well; so I just want some clarification before continuing.
Thanks! –ToxiBoi! (contribs) 10:11, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- ToxiBoi, hello! Note that as per the WP:NOTWEBHOST policy, Wikipedia is not a web hosting service for its users. Since it appears that it is an essay expressing your views or some information of yours, it seems pretty clear that the information there is not closely related to Wikipedia's goals, violating NOTWEBHOST. Further, if that draft is userfied, it will qualify for U5. Hence, I suggest that you request G1 speedy deletion of the draft. JavaHurricane 10:20, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- JavaHurricane, thanks for clarifying! I've gone ahead and struck my proposal on the page. –ToxiBoi! (contribs) 10:30, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- ToxiBoi, you're welcome! Thanks and happy editing! JavaHurricane 10:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- JavaHurricane, thanks for clarifying! I've gone ahead and struck my proposal on the page. –ToxiBoi! (contribs) 10:30, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Deletion of Draft:William O'Neil Indi
Hi, You speed deleted the my under creation article - Draft:William O'Neil India citing it for G11 ; Advertisement or Promotion. The same was a company page and the references were yet to be updated. Kindly help on restoring the content of the page and how to improve for page to be approved.
Rajukumar9 (talk) 10:23, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- Rajukumar9, draft was clearly promotional in nature, and promotional pages are disallowed per WP:NOTPROMO. Further, I don't see the company meeting WP:NCORP. If you do want help, please go to the helpdesk and ask your questions there, as I'm not an admin or an experienced enough user to answer your questions. Thank you, and have a great day! JavaHurricane 10:28, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Request for review of Alexander Cameron submission
Hi there,
Could you have a second look at my article on Alexander Cameron? I have altered the tone and added a lot of references which substantiate the facts. Thank you!
KSC-C1 (talk) 13:43, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- KSC-C1, I'd better not look at it now as I've reviewed it previously. I'd say let someone else review it! JavaHurricane 14:03, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi. I'm really puzzled as to why you think this is advertising and contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. It's not perfect, but I don't see any promotional content there. I removed the speedy deletion tag. Maybe you could give a bit more explanation as to what you think is wrong with it? Deb (talk) 07:01, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Deb, ah, I think I was somewhat influenced by an earlier version of this page, which was previously deleted under G11.
- Perhaps I was infuenced by this sentence from the article - "Entering the Antonin Mercié Atelier in 1912, he was able to enrich his knowledge by accepting all the so-called postulates found there, including the "Florentine renewals" evident in his works "The Girl with the Broken Tug" and "The Fisherman casts the net", following in them a typical Mercié performance of figures in a stalled motion." This is somewhat promotional at the very least, and given that the same page had been G11'd earlier, I thought that the promotional content had been restored. My bad in tagging the article again. Sorry! JavaHurricane 07:19, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Original deletion: 13:23, 2 April 2020 Anthony Appleyard talk contribs deleted page Draft:Dragomir Arambašić (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion) (thank) JavaHurricane 07:24, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- JavaHurricane, perhaps you should ask Deb if the original article is the same as this one. TBH I find it hard for anyone to promote someone who died 75 years ago. Anyway I listed the Serbian article: sr:Драгомир Арамбашић Thanks~ TLOM (The Lord of Math) (Message) 07:41, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Original deletion: 13:23, 2 April 2020 Anthony Appleyard talk contribs deleted page Draft:Dragomir Arambašić (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion) (thank) JavaHurricane 07:24, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, both. I see the bizarre wording in the original version which JH objected to, although I think it's probably the result of the creator's inexperience rather than intentional promotion. However, it appears that a more experienced contributor did some work on improving the wording and layout of the second draft. I hope you don't think I'm getting on your back; it's just that speedy deletion can be controversial and we admins get a lot of flak if we can't justify ourselves :-) Deb (talk) 07:44, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Deb, no problems! JavaHurricane 07:48, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Deb, JavaHurricane, and The Lord of Math: I did some work on the page and I don't think that it's promotional or up for speedy deletion, at all. Some of the wording is not that good but than again, there are many worse articles on Wiki. You could help with style. IP editor means nothing bad (my guess), he just has a writing style which is not that good for Wikipedia, and I wrote to her/him about it on his/her TP. P.S: The sculptor is notable, as he has several locally important works and awards. cheers, Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 10:58, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Sadko, thanks! The first version by the IP was really bad, but it is much better now. JavaHurricane 11:35, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Deb, JavaHurricane, and The Lord of Math: I did some work on the page and I don't think that it's promotional or up for speedy deletion, at all. Some of the wording is not that good but than again, there are many worse articles on Wiki. You could help with style. IP editor means nothing bad (my guess), he just has a writing style which is not that good for Wikipedia, and I wrote to her/him about it on his/her TP. P.S: The sculptor is notable, as he has several locally important works and awards. cheers, Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 10:58, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Deb, no problems! JavaHurricane 07:48, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, both. I see the bizarre wording in the original version which JH objected to, although I think it's probably the result of the creator's inexperience rather than intentional promotion. However, it appears that a more experienced contributor did some work on improving the wording and layout of the second draft. I hope you don't think I'm getting on your back; it's just that speedy deletion can be controversial and we admins get a lot of flak if we can't justify ourselves :-) Deb (talk) 07:44, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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Thank you for your warm welcome as well the advises on how to create my articles under Wikipedia's guidelines. FanFilmsMaster (talk) 14:37, 3 April 2020 (UTC) |
- You're welcome dear! -- JavaHurricane 14:58, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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translating french to English
Hi, I'm trying to translate https://fr.wiki.x.io/wiki/Pascal_Morabito into English, But I'm not able to publish on the English Wikipedia. Would you be able to help out by creating the translation page and I'll spend the time translating it :)
Thanks, Teo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teo Morabito (talk • contribs) 02:14, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Teo Morabito, well, I'm not too sure what happened there, but on the face of it it appears that the content translation almost entirely blanked the page. I don't know why it did so, but the matter can be easily resolved. For now I've reverted the page to the previous version. You can continue to work on the page, though it may be better not to use the translation tool if it is blanking the page. Better to do the improvements manually. Happy editing, and good luck! :) JavaHurricane 02:20, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you, I'll keep editing, how will the page be published later on ? Should I let you know when i'm done editing ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teo Morabito (talk • contribs) 02:23, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Teo Morabito, your entry is a draft, and thus will be reviewed via the articles for creation process. To submit the page for review, please add the text {{subst:submit}} to the top of the page. A reviewer will then come along and decide if the draft can be published as an article or if additional improvements are needed. The reviewer will let you know what improvements are required during the review. JavaHurricane 02:31, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Awesome, thank you so much for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teo Morabito (talk • contribs) 02:32, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Teo Morabito, you're welcome! All the best, and happy editing! :) JavaHurricane 02:33, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
I believe the page is ready for inspection, let m know if there's something I haven't done properly :) https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:Pascal_Morabito — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teo Morabito (talk • contribs) 04:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Teo Morabito, I'll instead let another reviewer get to it in due course. I'm quite busy now and might not do a good review! JavaHurricane 05:12, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
sounds good, thanks for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teo Morabito (talk • contribs) 08:57, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Miscellany Draft:Direct Differentiation and Integration of Logarithms
I searched the main space and I'm sure it's not covered at all. This is from historical time point of view. Differentiation and Integration remained unsolved for a long time since 80's and before at time of big Calculus. Now a days, it is solved and referenced, and all Mathematics Scientists are using it in their university classes from the highest level to high school levels. So this is famous and important topic showing time passed (on logarithms) while incomplete topic in mathematics. No any article in wikipedia shows this perspective of logarithms and mathematics. This is posted to all voters
Kkmal.Hamouda (talk) 16:07, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
It is present in several of our articles on differentiation. JavaHurricane 14:37, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Uday Narayan
Hello JavaHurricane. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Uday Narayan, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: At this risk of Wikipedia:Supervote -ing here, in my opinion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uday Narayan should be left to run its course. Please let me know if you disagree. "O lente, lente, curite noctis equi". Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 11:05, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Shirt58, you're welcome! JavaHurricane 16:01, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Divya Khosla Kumar
Hi. I noticed back in January you were the last person to edit the main page for Divya Khosla Kumar in regards to her birth year. A few days ago someone once again changed it to 1987 using India Of Times AGAIN as a reference even though it's been stated that's not a reliable source. There's an India Of Times article back from December 2013 which completely contradicts that being her birth year because it says she was 32 then and it actually features an interview with her and she said that she was 20 when she moved to Mumbai and worked on a movie that was released in 2004-2005. If she was born in 1987 she wouldn't have even turned 18 yet when that film was released. This is even mentioned on her talk page.99.21.95.87 (talk) 13:45, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Interviews can't be used as a source for birth date: please see WP:BLPPRIMARY. JavaHurricane 13:58, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Well yes I know that. I was just pointing out how that particular interview doesn't support 1987 being her birth year. The reference that's currently listed on her main page is a Times Of India article. And in your last edit, you said that wasn't reliable. I think it's probably best to just remove the DOB since there's so many conflicting sources and put down a note to other editors to not include it in the article unless a more reliable source is found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.215.9.37 (talk) 14:13, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yes that's the best idea I think if BLP needs to be followed. JavaHurricane 01:19, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Spam reversion
Hallo, Thanks for clearing up some of the Beyond Charts spam, but there are a lot more - in many cases the spam edit was followed by an edit linking the ISBN. PamD 09:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- PamD, I used mass rollback to revert whatever was the latest revision. The revisions which are not the oldest will have to be manually reverted. JavaHurricane 10:44, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Well that's most of them - I hoped that someone at ANI would have a more sophisticated way to do it. Maybe I'll have a go. PamD 11:08, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Bit fiddly as the editor who'd been fixing the URL in the spam had also sometimes done other good edits. PamD 11:41, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Well, JJMC is a sysop and a member of the Ombuds commission, so well.... JavaHurricane 16:54, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Bit fiddly as the editor who'd been fixing the URL in the spam had also sometimes done other good edits. PamD 11:41, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Well that's most of them - I hoped that someone at ANI would have a more sophisticated way to do it. Maybe I'll have a go. PamD 11:08, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Rene Lavand cite
You just erased my edit without checking. Is an personal interview. Rene Lavand on his flesh saying that. Why you did that? ROBOTECHH (talk) 06:40, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- ROBOTECHH, YouTube is not a reliable source, and said interview is a primary source too. See WP:BLPPRIMARY for why primary sources are avoided in biographies of living persons. Hope this helps! JavaHurricane 07:12, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Are you saying that Rene Lavand is alive? Better you check that. He had been dead for 6 years and almost a month. ROBOTECHH (talk) 10:07, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Why YouTube is not a reliable source when the video is an personal interview were Rene Lavand is whose talk in it? ROBOTECHH (talk) 10:10, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- ROBOTECHH, YouTube is a self-published source and therefore unreliable. I'm sorry, I thought it was an interview of Laward, I stand corrected. Nonetheless it remains that due to our sourcing policies for biographies of living persons, self-published sources are never to be used in a BLP. JavaHurricane 11:27, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
If all videos from YouTube was unreliable. All url from YouTube has have already on the black list just like all shorteners. You are not able to judge that ROBOTECHH (talk) 20:29, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
And I said once and I saying again. Rene Lavan is not a living person. He had have dead 6 years. ROBOTECHH (talk) 20:32, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- ROBOTECHH, even then no YouTube videos are allowed as sources in biographies. This is the policy and nothing can be done about it. This is necessary for preventing libel and unverifiable information appearing in BLPs due to legal considerations. Verifiability is one of Wikipedia's most important policies, and self-published sources like YouTube don't satisfy it, and certainly not for a BLP. Unless you get a reliable source supporting your addition, please don't readd the information, especially if the reference is to YouTube. Whether the subject is dead or alive has nothing to do with the reliability of YouTube, which has been routinely investigated and found to not be reliable. I hope this helps! :) JavaHurricane 06:10, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
No, it wasn't help The exceptions to this, however, are official YouTube channels created by agencies and organizations that themselves are generally considered reliable, such as that of the Associated Press. These videos may be used and are generally reliable. In all cases, the video must not infringe copyright.
And the mentioned video is from oficial chanel of National Library Mariano Moreno. And I'll repeat,since you apparently didn't pay attention when I said before, if YouTube were a not reliable source there're no reason to some ramndom guy to erase that kind of external links, if YouTube videos has no place in wikipedia it will ve automatically banned for some script jot for you or another follower of non sense and sui generis rules
ROBOTECHH (talk) 07:09, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
jot = not some script JOT for you some script NOT for you
ROBOTECHH (talk) 07:11, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- Since it appears that you aren't ready to listen, I'm afraid I cannot help you much then. I will merely advise you to maintain civility and not make any personal attacks. I will just say it again: that video, not being from a reliable source, is self-published and therefore not usable in a BLP (or biographies of people who died in the past few years). The only reason why YouTube is not blacklisted is because it is sometimes used to link to songs uncontroversially, and to the videos from reliable sources as you say. YouTube references are otherwise unacceptable as they are unverifiable. JavaHurricane 11:09, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Blair Cottrell wikipedia page
Hi JavaHurricane
You recently removed my edit of Blair Cottrell regarding his involvement as a fitness enthusiast. I included two citations and a simple google search of 'Blair Cottrell fitness' further highlights this. Any response would be much appreciated
Thanks John — Preceding unsigned comment added by HedgeFundJohn (talk • contribs) 11:44, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- HedgeFundJohn, Lee Vilenski has already undone your edit, and I daresay I agree with him. JavaHurricane 12:23, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
I removed the ad from the article "Radio REDBOX"
I removed the ad, please remove the quick delete — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikitasmirnovva (talk • contribs) 12:39, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Nikitasmirnovva, still reads like spam. JavaHurricane 12:44, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
And now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikitasmirnovva (talk • contribs) 13:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Nikitasmirnovva, it still looks like spam. JavaHurricane 13:04, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
I've already changed almost everything, sorry for such a direct question. What's wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikitasmirnovva (talk • contribs) 13:05, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Nikitasmirnovva, I've removed the speedy tag as the page no longer is "unambiguous advertising or promotion." However, it will be nominated for deletion as it doesn't meet the criteria for notability. JavaHurricane 13:08, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Added links to sources, look still not significant? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikitasmirnovva (talk • contribs) 14:19, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Nikitasmirnovva, I'm sorry. But I'm afraid your radio station is simply not notable enough. I ran a search too to see if any viable coverage could be found, but to no avail. JavaHurricane 15:02, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Paid Disclosure
Hi! I am Not Paid for creating The Opinion Express Group Page and as I am working on a voluntary basis with Organisation. Sauravgupta7297 (talk) 08:40, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sauravgupta7297, really, can it be true that a marketing head is unpaid? I find it hard to believe. And even if that is true, it remains that you have a conflict of interest. JavaHurricane 08:44, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Please declare your conflict of interest as per the instructions at this page. JavaHurricane 08:46, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Can You please post it on my Talk page on my behalf Sauravgupta7297 (talk) 08:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- I have added 16 References to my article! That all the references I have and I have added citation in almost every line with official documents Sauravgupta7297 (talk) 08:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sauravgupta7297, I'm sorry, but I post the paid editing declaration: you must post it yourself. Also, all the references are to the subject's web page and thus are neither reliable, nor independent, nor secondary sources, hence contributing nothing to notability. JavaHurricane 09:08, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi! I have added the Paid Disclosure please check is it Okay nowSauravgupta7297 (talk) 09:24, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sauravgupta7297, noted. Now, next is the notability of the subject: I shall shortly evaluate it. JavaHurricane 09:32, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sir! Please do the needful and move this page to the mainsapce Sauravgupta7297 (talk) 09:36, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sauravgupta7297, it cannot be moved yet. It is simply not ready for moving to mainspace. JavaHurricane 09:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Please tell me what more i have to do in this article to get this ready for the mainspace sir Sauravgupta7297 (talk) 09:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sauravgupta7297, I'm sorry, but it is just not notable enough for inclusion right now. I would advise you to wait at least 6 months before asking for reconsideration. Thanks. JavaHurricane 10:13, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Okay! Thanks for your help sirSauravgupta7297 (talk) 10:21, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sauravgupta7297, a pleasure to help you! JavaHurricane 10:22, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Okay! Thanks for your help sirSauravgupta7297 (talk) 10:21, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sauravgupta7297, I'm sorry, but it is just not notable enough for inclusion right now. I would advise you to wait at least 6 months before asking for reconsideration. Thanks. JavaHurricane 10:13, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Please tell me what more i have to do in this article to get this ready for the mainspace sir Sauravgupta7297 (talk) 09:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sauravgupta7297, it cannot be moved yet. It is simply not ready for moving to mainspace. JavaHurricane 09:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sir! Please do the needful and move this page to the mainsapce Sauravgupta7297 (talk) 09:36, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sauravgupta7297, noted. Now, next is the notability of the subject: I shall shortly evaluate it. JavaHurricane 09:32, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi! I have added the Paid Disclosure please check is it Okay nowSauravgupta7297 (talk) 09:24, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sauravgupta7297, I'm sorry, but I post the paid editing declaration: you must post it yourself. Also, all the references are to the subject's web page and thus are neither reliable, nor independent, nor secondary sources, hence contributing nothing to notability. JavaHurricane 09:08, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Please declare your conflict of interest as per the instructions at this page. JavaHurricane 08:46, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank you for fighting Wikipedia vandalism, —PaleoNeonate – 17:44, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- PaleoNeonate, you are most welcome! JavaHurricane 17:47, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Hey
Taking a break from my wikibreak to say I accept your apology. I get it, I deal with a a lot of BS in my life too, which is why I can be a bit prickly sometimes. Anyway, no harm done. Have a great rest of your day! Americanfreedom (talk) 22:03, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
- Americanfreedom, thanks a lot! JavaHurricane 01:42, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
Raad van Verzet
Raad van Verzet has been redlinked 7 times on English WP, there are two articles on it in other WPs, multiple reliable sources on it 1, 2, 3. The burden of proof regarding it not being notable is 100% on you. I am in no way obliged to write an article about it prove its notability.--Catlemur (talk) 10:42, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Catlemur, YouTube is not a reliable source, 2 is not significant coverage, and I don't know what 3 is as I don't understand that language or can read it in full. JavaHurricane 10:44, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- The source is not YouTube. It is a documentary UPLOADED on Youtube so you should provide a critique of the documentary's quality instead of the hosting service. You not knowing Ukrainian is irrelevant, it is a scholarly work regardless of whether you speak the language.
Now prove those books are not WP:RS:
- L. de Jong, Het Koninkrijk der Nederlanden in de Tweede Wereldoorlog.
- J.L. van der Pauw, “Guerrilla in Rotterdam”, De paramilitaire verzetsgroepen 1940-1945, 1995, Sdu Uitgeverij Konninginnegracht, ’s-Gravenhage 1995.
- Cammaert, A.P.M., 1994. Het Verborgen Front. Geschiedenis van de georganiseerde illegaliteit in de provincie Limburg tijdens de Tweede Wereldoorlog. Eisma B. V. Leeuwarden/Mechelen. Dissertatie.
--Catlemur (talk) 10:49, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Catlemur, I noticed that it was a documentary later. I will get back on that soon. And so far as the books are concerned, I can't tell if they are RSs as I don't know the language. JavaHurricane 10:51, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, you win. I'm undoing myself. JavaHurricane 10:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- You opened a link to Youtube, the title of the video had Documentary in it, the channel name was British Army Documentaries, the description also makes it clear that it is a documentary. And you did not immediately realize it was documentary? The first book's author is wikilinked, his article states that he is an expert on Dutch World War II history. Maybe you should do a little bit of research before pressing revert button next time.Catlemur (talk) 11:05, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Catlemur, indeed I should. Where's that thread on this talk about haste and Treebeard gone now? Perhaps I should pause, take a break... JavaHurricane 11:22, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
copyright fix Union for the Local Employees in Missions Accredited to South Africa
HI
So I gather I am not an expert in this but I did try to trace back my mistake to keep my draft copyright-free I even requested the owner of the links and other content to confirm and authorize the usage of the content, Would you please point out the issues now on this draft, things you feel I should fix?
Draft_talk:Union_for_The_Local_Employees_in_Missions_Accredited_to_South_Africa_(ULEMASA)
Kind Regards 197.185.101.191 (talk) 20:47, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- I feel that the best way here is to wait for an admin experienced with copyvio to investigate and deal with the page first. JavaHurricane 01:44, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Shai Hope
Why did you removed the edit? Saidur Mursalin (talk) 18:21, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Saidur Mursalin, because apparently you copied Tom Latham's list of centuries by mistake. JavaHurricane 01:41, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
I will edit it.Don't worry. Saidur Mursalin (talk) 07:38, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- Saidur Mursalin, no problems! JavaHurricane 08:17, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Request on 00:40:09, 19 March 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Abigail Christine
I don't understand why multiple Wikipedia users are disputing the quality of my draft or the sources I cited. Every source I cited in my draft for Endeavor Business Media is a reputable media outlet. I disclosed that I work for the company and am only trying to create a factual entry in Wikipedia. All I'm seeing is negative comments, and only one user so far who helped to actually edit the page. I'm really getting discouraged and don't understand why this is so difficult. As an editor I appreciate adherence to high standards, but this feels like I'm being targeted. One user even noted how my company's headquarters looked suspicious on Google maps - this company is three years old and I have explained the growth of the company, citing acquisitions that linked to other companies with Wikipedia entries, such as PennWell or Informa. Anyway, I have tried to respond to all the comments and am only trying to resolve this and publish an entry for Endeavor Business Media. Abigail Christine (talk) 00:40, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Abigail Christine (talk) 00:40, 19 March 2021 (UTC) Abigail Christine (talk) 00:40, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- Abigail Christine, no one is targeting you here. The problem of course is that the sources listed are not significant coverage but rather run of the mill coverage. Routine coverage about mergers, acquisitions, appointments, resignations, etc. usually do not constitute significant coverage as such sources do not discuss the subject in detail. The notability criteria for companies requires multiple (usually three), reliable, secondary sources that are intellectually independent of the subject and discuss the subject in good detail. I went through your sources and found that most sources are such announcements, which don't actually discuss the company in detail but merely make the announcement and give a few related quotes. Such sources may be used as references for mergers, etc. but they don't contribute to notability. Can you get such sources which satisfy the criteria I've mentioned? JavaHurricane 01:46, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Regarding Declined status of Endeavor Business Media entry
Hello, regarding your comment, "This is a well disguised advert bh a self identified paid editor. Many of the references are regurgitated press releases and PR material. They provide an aura of faux notability which is not required and adds no value. Indeed it diminishes Wikipedia's value."
Can you please explain where I cited a "regurgitated press release" or "PR material" in my entry? Every citation I used is a verifiable media outlet. I disclosed that I was employed by the company and am only trying to write a factual Wikipedia entry for it - I have no desire to place a "well disguised advert."
Abigail Christine (talk) 00:21, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- See below. JavaHurricane 02:41, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
WikiLoop 2020 Year in Review
Dear editors, developers and friends:
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Head over to our project page on Meta Wikimedia to read a brief 2020 Year in Review for WikiLoop.
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:35, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi There! I am not affiliated with Kerwin Frost. Please revert my edits!
- Sorry, even if you are wholly unrelated to Frost, the content you added was promotional and therefore cannot be restored. I hope you understand. JavaHurricane 03:25, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
refimprove
You should read description of this tag before using it: "Don't use this tag for articles that contain no unreferenced material, even if all the material is supported by a single citation". Be so kind to remove it please. There is obviously no other sources yet, as paper was published only several hours ago.--Igor Balashov (talk) 16:17, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Very well. I'll remove it. JavaHurricane 03:26, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Darn, someone redirected already. JavaHurricane 03:27, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: User talk:Ivegotthepower
Hello JavaHurricane. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User talk:Ivegotthepower, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: avaHurricane - I have done a brief check for copyright violations, external and interal - and in my opinion this talk page should be retained, if only for publicly viewable content of a sockpuppet investigation. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 10:27, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
Premature page moves
Please revert those moves. There is currently a third discussion ongoing to discuss the fate of those articles. Moving/splitting them before that discussion ends is grossly inappropriate and borderline disruptive. BTW, the "split consensus" is a weak one at best. If the third discussion closes as a "support", not only do all of these moves have to be reverted again, but the page then has to be moved yet again to the new title. We should at least wait for the third discussion to conclude before doing anything. What is the point of discussing things if we're just going to be making these unilateral moves? LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 06:39, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- The discussion is moot now as the first discussion closed in favour of a split: if the articles are split, the move discussion is pointless. I just closed it as moot. JavaHurricane 06:41, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- It is hardly moot. Active discussions are not moot when the same subject is still being discussed, especially as it has yet to conclude. That closure was quite inappropriate. We have two options here. Either I can restore the pages via pagemover, or I get an admin to restore the pages, because as it is right now, we have an active discussion and consensus has not yet been determined on the third option. But given the way that one is going, I think it is very likely that a retitled, combined article will be the final consensus. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 06:44, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, go restore it. I don't care anyways for WPTC anymore - I lost my faith long ago. If you think the close was bad, go revert me. It doesn't matter. JavaHurricane 06:47, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Ugh. None of this sits well with me. I just want the discussions to wrap up and take things from there. I understand why you did what you did. But the truth is, it isn't appropriate in light of the situation. Especially not when there are still active discussions. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 06:50, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Have a good day. I'm already having a bad time and in a foul mood, and I daresay any discussion will be pointless. I'll be very happy if you don't trouble me. Thanks. JavaHurricane 06:51, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Ugh. None of this sits well with me. I just want the discussions to wrap up and take things from there. I understand why you did what you did. But the truth is, it isn't appropriate in light of the situation. Especially not when there are still active discussions. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 06:50, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, go restore it. I don't care anyways for WPTC anymore - I lost my faith long ago. If you think the close was bad, go revert me. It doesn't matter. JavaHurricane 06:47, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- It is hardly moot. Active discussions are not moot when the same subject is still being discussed, especially as it has yet to conclude. That closure was quite inappropriate. We have two options here. Either I can restore the pages via pagemover, or I get an admin to restore the pages, because as it is right now, we have an active discussion and consensus has not yet been determined on the third option. But given the way that one is going, I think it is very likely that a retitled, combined article will be the final consensus. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 06:44, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Sorry about what happened at Tropical Storm Amanda–Cristobal
Hey, I wanted to apologize for what happened between you and lightanddark2000 - I meant to close the RM at the same time as the above discussion, for the same reason as you - it was moot. You could re-do your edits and it would be justified, though I could understand why you may want to avoid that. The RM should not have been made in the first place, clearly, before the first discussion ended. Elli (talk | contribs) 07:34, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hey, you don't need to be sorry: the fault's mine own. It's alright. :). JavaHurricane 08:32, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello JavaHurricane, i have made edits on Haruna Sentongo and i am kindly requesting for your Expert Review and proposal of essential extra edits required. Thank you. Ibitukirire (talk) 02:49, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- It does not change the fact that Sentongo is nowhere close to meeting notability guidelines, or that the page will likely be deleted. There are few improvements, if they can be called that. JavaHurricane 06:45, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- I have honestly given up on that Article/Gentleman, was i just wanted to be successful with my first main space article, but the moment i saw something to do with UPE SPAM blocking, i have honestly given up, it is really not worth, someone else will make another one in its right time, my time spent on it, has been experience. Thank you for the guidance. Ibitukirire (talk) 07:08, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- Ibitukikirire, before you go, PLEASE tell me if that person has paid you. JavaHurricane 07:11, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- I have honestly given up on that Article/Gentleman, was i just wanted to be successful with my first main space article, but the moment i saw something to do with UPE SPAM blocking, i have honestly given up, it is really not worth, someone else will make another one in its right time, my time spent on it, has been experience. Thank you for the guidance. Ibitukirire (talk) 07:08, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Draft
Dear JavaHurricane,
Thank you for taking out time to read the updated article. The article is not promotional. All genuine citations and references have been added, and all informational considered promotional has been removed. Kindly consider for approval.
Regards
- Okay, let me see. JavaHurricane 16:27, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- It is worse now. Much worse. JavaHurricane 16:29, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Advice requested
Hi JavaHurricane,
I'm the writer of the Karrot page and thanks for reviewing. Just a quick question--I was updating the page as per suggestions, but noticed that you left a comment on the older version. I continued working on the WIP version but seems like I unintentionally deleted your declines (which I noticed you commented on and voted to delete). Sorry that this happened. For better version management, can you share the link where I should make direct edits?
Thanks, Kyle
- Hello Kwlee121. To edit the page, go to Draft:Karrot and click on the "edit" button at the top. But, please, please truthfully state how you are linked with Karrot, and if you are paid to write that page. Thanks. JavaHurricane 09:17, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
I found the correct link and made edits on the latest version. Wish I had known it earlier. To answer your question, I wish I were affiliated with Karrot (and get paid), but unfortunately I'm not haha.
I'm doing this as for a journalism class project in college. Thanks and have a great day.
Cheers, Kyle
- Okay. JavaHurricane 09:27, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- User:Kwlee121 - Ask for advice at the Teahouse before doing any more edits to Draft:Karrot. Usually I would say "Please ask", but this is not intended to be a polite request. Do not resubmit or tweak that draft without first discussing it, and discussing its rejection. If the draft is edited further, it will again be nominated for deletion, and a partial block may be requested. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:26, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
re-evaluate Draft:Raed Faisal Alhuwaizi article
Hello, and hope you are doing well Can you please re-evaluate Draft:Raed Faisal Alhuwaizi article? I see you put "This biographical article is written like a résumé." so I make a search on Wikipedia to learn how to re-wight it to be better, thank you --Pro95mustafa (talk) 17:15, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
hey
hey, can u review this https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:V1T0 since last year(when u declined draft) he was featured serveral times in Croatian Billboard/Complex equivalent muzika.hr ( one article/interview with full focus on him ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captainjackcactus (talk • contribs) 15:37, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
please lmk what is wrong, I edited parts that I thought are 'PeaCocky' https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:V1T0
- I shall let someone else review the draft now, Captainjackcactus: I am not well-versed enough in this field, and I feel others more knowledgeable should review, lest I should make an incorrect review. Thank you. JavaHurricane 17:31, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
JavaHurricane ohh, ok, thank you, may I ask who did u ask to review it?
- @Captainjackcactus: I haven't asked anyone; and, as there is a big backlog in that queue, it may be some time before the review occurs. Someone will come to review in due time however. I hope you understand. Thanks. JavaHurricane 16:43, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Speedy Deletion "Ethiopian Arts and Humanities Fund"
Hello. I recently published a page for the "Ethiopian Arts and Humanities Fund" that you flagged for speedy deletion. I'm not sure what reason there would be for this. I did my best to emulate the format of other arts and humanities organizations on wiki. Can you please elaborate on how I can make improvements to the article.
- Ynegede, how are you linked with the fund? JavaHurricane 05:54, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- JavaHurricane, I am the founder of the fund. I'm not the most well versed in the process of establishing a wiki page. I looked at similar funds and tried to replicate their format. was this wrong?
- JavaHurricane, Thank you for the message. Would you mind reviewing my article and telling me what I can do to remove the subjectivity?
- I've responded on your talk page. JavaHurricane 06:21, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Talk pages blanked
I blanked the page because I created the recognisation for the graphics with the new names.--93.193.170.30 (talk) 07:02, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- In which case, 93.193.170.30, you should redirect the pages to the new talk pages, not blank them. JavaHurricane 07:22, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- I am sorry. Please could you do the redirects.--93.193.170.30 (talk) 07:25, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'll do it, no problems. Happy editing 93.193.170.30! JavaHurricane 07:45, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
You forgot File File talk:Korean Plan of Salvation.png, File talk:Savplano.png and File talk:The Plan of Salvation swahili.jpg.--93.193.170.30 (talk) 10:58, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'll do it shortly. JavaHurricane 12:30, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
You forgot File talk:Plan zbawienia.png, File talk:Piano di salvezza.jpg and File talk:The Plan of Salvation.jpg--93.193.170.30 (talk) 06:25, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
AIV
Your comment "Valorant Valorant is an LTA sock" would be more helpful if you identified the LTA. I suspect your right, but still ... --Bbb23 (talk) 13:30, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- I always report which LTA when I do know it. I wasn't sure who it was in this case, but a duck is a duck anyways. JavaHurricane 06:43, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Draft
Thanks for reviewing my draft article. I took your notes and they surely helped! I made an updated version, check it out whenever you have the time.
Have a good one!--Boozlebam (talk) 13:56, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'll check it soon. JavaHurricane 14:01, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks again. I removed some of the quotes. Check out if it's better! --Boozlebam (talk) 17:55, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- I will see. JavaHurricane 14:43, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
Request on 11:30:43, 26 June 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Itrat Aun
i need assistance bcz my written biography is gettng rejected
I want some help that how can i make it approved.
Itrat Aun (talk) 11:30, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Itrat Aun: you have to write the draft in neutral, dispassionate language that simply describes the person. See Writing Better Articles for help. JavaHurricane 14:43, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
Misunderstanding regarding Paid editing
Hi, this is the second time i am getting this message, last time when I created this article BoAt and now this. I want to make it clear that i am a boy from India that too who is doing engineering. How will i have affiliation wuth a medical company. I told it before to a user that my internet really sucks and i do short edits and publish them (Like one or two line) cause I don't want to lose what I have written. That's why you see a lot of edits of my edits at a single time on an article. I have also added financials in Thyrocare, Lenskart, Nykaa and many more. This article about Intas Biopharmaceuticals was so badly written and presented so I thought of updating as a whole. So i added more information, financials with proper sources and removed unwanted links. But now i saw that you have removed it. It's a request that please bring back to my edits because many of the things were written wrong in the article and now it was right (You can cross check it from google). I herby decalre that I am NOT a paid user and just a random user from India who love to edits articles on wikipedia. Thank you and I hope your doubts are clear. Sorry for any inconvenience :) Badassboy 63637 (talk) 05:24, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- That said, why are you adding covertly promotional material, improperly cited, to company pages? Your editing pattern is suspicious, to be fair. JavaHurricane 05:28, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Can you specify what promotional material I added? I just added acquisitions, products and history with proper citations you can check. The image of headquarters is generally in infobox but it is down there in the article. I made a proper gallery for products and time. I removed wiki links of people who don't have wikipedia pages. I added employee year, revenue and updated infobox with proper citations. So what's wrong here and I saw that you didn't brought back the edits which i done. Go on Intas Biopharmaceuticals in external links and click on official site it is saying server not available. I don't know why people thing some one paid me even though you can check my edit history its diversified. Request to check the article and citations yourself. I just totally updated it. Badassboy 63637 (talk) 06:14, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- I do not think I need to explain how your edits were promotional. You know it too well. An example of inappropriateness is citing the company page for information, which is not acceptable usually. See WP:PRIMARY. JavaHurricane 06:19, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
need help
Bro, I know you are wikipedian. I would like to create about Lady Dugu (Empress Yuanzhen),mother of Emperor Gaozu of Tang. She was also known for being the sister of Empress Dugu Jialuo and Empress Dugu of Northern Zhou. I have known much about her. All you need to help is to set the wikipedia page. I can't create myself!
- I'm sorry, but I don't know anything about Chinese history, so I am afraid I cannot help. JavaHurricane 07:41, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- I got the same message on my talk page. I directed the IP to the Draft area. The IP likely found out about me through automated editing on articles about Chinese women. I don't know about you. Scorpions13256 (talk) 23:56, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
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Nat Bowen speedy deletion
Hello, can you advise how the Nat Bowen article is promotional? I thought I had referenced everything sufficiently? Hans Sachs (talk) 14:08, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Ckennedy18: "sourcing" really doesn't have much to do with promotion: the tone of your article only tends to promote the subject without actually providing the reader with much information. Attaching adjectives like "vibrant", etc. to describe the article subject is clear promotion. JavaHurricane 14:26, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Okay, well I tried to stay neutral. Do you have any advice of how I can improve the article? Hans Sachs (talk) 14:29, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- FWIW, the article has been deleted by an admin (I'm not one). That said, how are you linked with Bowen, Ckennedy18? JavaHurricane 14:33, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
No. She is an emerging artist and I felt she met the notability criteria. A shame it has been deleted. Can it be salvaged? Hans Sachs (talk) 14:40, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
I am acquaintance of Nat’s, nothing more. Hans Sachs (talk) 14:41, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- Responded on your talk. JavaHurricane 15:05, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 2
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Thank you for participating in my RFA
I appreciate your trust and support. Please help me by calling on me if I step out of line or otherwise. BusterD (talk) 15:42, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- You're welcome! JavaHurricane 13:41, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
John Mariani Draft - notability
Hello JavaHurricane, Thanks for reviewing the draft of John Mariani https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:John_Mariani You commented that most of the sources are passing mentions. There are several articles which do focus on him and contain more than passing mentions ((including the older ones which I haven't been able to find digitally but have hard copies of). But if you feel these don't count, could you help me understand which of these criteria the page doesn't meet?
"If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability" There are over 20 from a selection of national and regional press.
"The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times" He has been nominated for and received Wiki recognised awards for his work
"The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field" His works are used a reference for multiple other Wiki pages such as definitions of food types (eg the sub sandwich, Bloody Mary cocktail)
Apart from the above, I believe that journalists are viewed differently as they are the ones who write, rather than be written about.
I would be grateful if you could advise me on what else is required.
Many thanks --Factelf4 (talk) 06:45, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Factelf4: sorry for the late reply; I've been unwell of late.
- 1) Many of the sources you use (the online ones; I can't say the same about the offline sources) are indeed just passing mentions or otherwise do not give in-depth ("significant") coverage of the subject, or otherwise are unreliable sources, run-of-the-mill sources or interviews (which are "primary" sources: Wikipedia needs secondary sources).
- 2) I don't think that the awards in question are so important to the field in question that they alone indicate that he is notable. Usually, we are looking for something like a Pulitzer, a Nobel, or something of the sort: an extremely prestigious award.
- 3) The third criterion refers either to significant impacts made by the person on his field, e.g. Da Vinci, or Faraday for instance, or to a large number of citations in papers or in articles where his work features prominently.
- I will happily admit that I don't have in-depth knowledge of the field, so I'd rather refer you to WP:AFCHD, where I hope that you will get better help than here. JavaHurricane 10:09, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Kano Draft
Hi there JavaHurricane, this is Jordan (royalwatercress) here. You recently reviewed my Kano Computing draft page.
Really appreciate you taking the time to review the page, and thank you for the feedback and advice. I have since made a number of changes to try and confine to what you mentioned and I hope you might find this to be an improvement on my previous edit. I am new to writing articles on Wikipedia, but I highly appreciate your help and advice.
Thank you, Jordan --Royalwatercress (talk) 11:18, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 3
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Questions about sources for John Mariani draft
Hi. You reviewed my draft of John Mariani last month and gave me some feedback about sources. I'm very delayed in getting back to you so think the thread has been archived (https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User_talk:JavaHurricane/Archive_2#John_Mariani_Draft_-_notability) but hoping that I could come back to you for further clarification (do hope you're feeling better by the way).
There are articles from Houston Press, Boston Globe, Vie Magazine, NY Times, Houston Chronicle, LA Times, Chicago Tribue, National Review, Washington Times and Washington Post all of which focus on Mariani specifically and which are not passing mentions. I also have digital copies of other articles but which I can't get access to online. Is there a way of adding those/showing you to help prove his notability? Struggling to see why he wouldn't be notable enough, especially when I see these criteria for creative professionals which includes journalists and authors. For example:
The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors - references show the importance places on Mariani's awards when working for Esquire for 35 years.
The person's work (or works) has: (a) become a significant monument, (b) been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) won significant critical attention, or (d) been represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums - his books have won awards and the references show that they are widely referenced, including by Wiki pages on food.
Thanks for your help --Factelf4 (talk) 13:46, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- In which case I suggest you put up the draft for review, Factelf4. I'm indisposed at the moment, and unfortunately would be unable to review the draft. I do think someone will review the draft and its sources soon enough, hopefully. JavaHurricane 13:58, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. Do I just resubmit the draft even though I've made no changes since you rejected it? Factelf4 (talk) 13:59, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Factelf4: If you have added those sources to the IP, do so. If you haven't added source to the draft, please add them first as citations for some material. JavaHurricane 14:03, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
The sources were always there as citations, hence I'm questioning as would have thought they would quality. Thanks Factelf4 (talk) 14:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC) Correction - qualify not quality!Factelf4 (talk) 14:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Very well, Factelf4. If you think that the references qualify, feel free to submit for review. JavaHurricane 14:15, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
Query
Hi, You moved Şakir Bayhan to draft and also nominated Piper Rockelle for afd. I have no issues with it. Anyways, Per my clarification upon checking google news search for Piper Rockelle I saw a number of sources available online that's why I accepted it. Also, For Şakir Bayhan, Please check DGG comment. NagalimNE (talk) 08:32, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
- Notability is not the only factor to consider while reviewing AfC drafts. Şakir Bayhan might indeed be notable, but in its current state it cannot stay in the mainspace. And as for Rockelle, I saw the sources, which are run-of-the-mill sources that do not contribute to notability. JavaHurricane 08:57, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi JavaHurricane.
Could you please re-check Şakir Bayhan page that i have been trying to complete. I made some revisions and send a message to NagalimNE as well.
Looking forward to your valuable feedbacks.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Paladin.
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Unreliable sources
Greetings I have noticed that you have been engaging certain folks on the Panjshir valley attack regarding Indian sources I have today discovered this source [2] This clearly mentions that India today was posting fake images of f-16s from the Pakistan air force being shot down in the Panjshir Valley, But according to the US site military.com, the photo was actually from an accident of an US F-16 Fighting Falcon jet that crash-landed "during a routine training flight near the Arizona-California border" on April 24, 2018. The fact that this fake news outlet is being used as some sort of reliable source is shocking to me I think Indian sources cannot really be trusted when it comes to this event at all. Also a recent BBC news article casts doubts over all these claims and states it cannot be proven. Kusoap00 (talk) 21:51, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Kusoap00: while I do regard Indian sources with some caution in Pakistan-related matters for obvious reasons, and have small faith in Indian news channels, I would appreciate it if you could provide a source better than Global Times, which has been shown to be a spreader of fake news and propaganda, to prove that India Today is unreliable. See WP:GLOBALTIMES. JavaHurricane 04:23, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
- @JavaHurricane: Thanks for replying. I dont know what you mean to prove India Today spreads fake news? Watch the news report itself [3] The clip from the website clearly shows a report by India Today showing the fake image of a f-16 fighter being shot down they used a fake twitter account as a base for their "breaking news" you can even play the news report itself and watch the India Today news anchor for proof clearly attempting fake news play the video its "Breaking news report" which shows the the so called downed f-16 fighter its well known India Today (like the majority of Indian news outlets are promoting fake news against Pakistan) spreads fake news even domestically [4] Again India Today uses Twitter as its source of information I am still baffled about how you dont consider it unreliable when in regards to Pakistan it clearly is. Kusoap00 (talk) 07:24, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
- @JavaHurricane: Sorry I missed out this website which spotted India Todays fake news [5] And The Quint which also called out India Today for spreading fake news on Panjshir [6] and to quote Quint "India Today used a tweet by account '@mohsood123', which claimed to be the official account of Ahmad Massoud – leader of the NRF – and reported that a Pakistani jet was shot down in the area. However, we found that the Twitter account whose tweets were shared by the media was not Ahmad Massoud's actual account. Massoud, who is NRF's founder, tweets from '@AhmadMassoud01'. The image that the account had shared, claiming to show a Pakistani Jet shot down by the Resistance is also old." Just to add there are other websites which also exposed India Todays fake news but If you want more I can provide. India Today are notorious for their use of Twitter as a source of information and I believe the reports coming from them are highly dubious and unreliable particularly in this topic area of Pak\Afghanistan. Kusoap00 (talk) 07:28, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
- Could you really try giving me a link to a reliable source? All the sources you link are unreliable, except for the Quint, and as for the Massoud incident, even NYT makes mistakes. People have evaluated India Today over several years and they concluded that India Today has a very good track record of fact checking. If I remember correctly, India Today later acknowledged the Twitter fake account problem. If India Today is amenable to admitting and fixing mistakes, that makes them reliable enough. And again, I've said this before: I'm very cautious about Indian sources in Pakistan-related matters, which is why I think that only "alleged" should be used in the article for now. The fact that the EU considered a resolution on Pakistan's involvement in Panjshir must also be considered, however. I can certainly see better sourcing coming up in the coming weeks on the matter. JavaHurricane 08:01, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
- I think instilling the "Alleged" portion is the bare minimum since the resolution itself relies on comments from NRF members in contact with EU parliament members. I am not sure if more reliable sources will come through like the BBC/Guardian or CNN etc none of them reported the fake news like the Indian media did probably because unlike India they do not really have much of a interest in smearing or setting narratives against Pakistan. I think the alleged portion should stay unless mainstream global sources also report the same which I doubt they will as the Indian Media as a whole relies on twitter feeds particularly when it comes to Pakistan they can be very reckless in choosing sources. I also understand that India has a vested interest in smearing Pakistan as its lost all of its influence in Afghanistan and a regional rivalry exists so its understandable they will bend the rules when it comes to Pakistan. Thank you for replying and take care thanks for being fair Wikipedia can sometimes feel very hostile if you oppose certain narratives from a certain country. Kusoap00 (talk) 11:20, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
- Could you really try giving me a link to a reliable source? All the sources you link are unreliable, except for the Quint, and as for the Massoud incident, even NYT makes mistakes. People have evaluated India Today over several years and they concluded that India Today has a very good track record of fact checking. If I remember correctly, India Today later acknowledged the Twitter fake account problem. If India Today is amenable to admitting and fixing mistakes, that makes them reliable enough. And again, I've said this before: I'm very cautious about Indian sources in Pakistan-related matters, which is why I think that only "alleged" should be used in the article for now. The fact that the EU considered a resolution on Pakistan's involvement in Panjshir must also be considered, however. I can certainly see better sourcing coming up in the coming weeks on the matter. JavaHurricane 08:01, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
- @JavaHurricane: Sorry I missed out this website which spotted India Todays fake news [5] And The Quint which also called out India Today for spreading fake news on Panjshir [6] and to quote Quint "India Today used a tweet by account '@mohsood123', which claimed to be the official account of Ahmad Massoud – leader of the NRF – and reported that a Pakistani jet was shot down in the area. However, we found that the Twitter account whose tweets were shared by the media was not Ahmad Massoud's actual account. Massoud, who is NRF's founder, tweets from '@AhmadMassoud01'. The image that the account had shared, claiming to show a Pakistani Jet shot down by the Resistance is also old." Just to add there are other websites which also exposed India Todays fake news but If you want more I can provide. India Today are notorious for their use of Twitter as a source of information and I believe the reports coming from them are highly dubious and unreliable particularly in this topic area of Pak\Afghanistan. Kusoap00 (talk) 07:28, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
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You declined the draft article B A F Shaheen College Kurmitola for notability. See reference number 4, 5, 6 and 7. They are absolutely reliable. The sources are news. ➤ Tajwar – thesupermaN!【Click to Discuss】 08:17, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- A news source being from an RS doesn't make it significant coverage, Tajwar.thesuperman. Source 4 is a short announcement with zero discussion of the institute, and as such is not significant coverage. Ref 5 is not about the college, as far as I can tell, but about a person who was teaching there. Again, not significant coverage about the college. Ref 6 is about another teacher and not about the college. Ref 7 doesn't seem related, and seems to be a government site. JavaHurricane 08:27, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- @JavaHurricane Thankss!!! Very very thanks! ✅✅✅ ➤ Tajwar – thesupermaN!【Click to Discuss】 08:33, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Flagging Response around Socure and Guidelines
Hi JavaHurricane, I wanted to make certain that you saw my response to your query that started with the Socure article. Let me know if you have any follow-up. Cryptodd (talk) 03:22, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- I confirm I've seen it. JavaHurricane 03:28, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
Regarding the deletion of Devika Rotawan
Hi, i do not think that thia Article related to Devika Rotawan should be deleted. Changes in wrong info is always an option. This is totally unethical and against the Wikipedia norms.
Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 4
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Ilyas Bircan Article
I saw the Club on Wikipedia, the Players Name on Wikipedia and thought that if both would already be giving on here, that there is a chance for this Article to be necessary. What I want to say is, that if there is already an interest for the Club and the Player on the clubs Wikipedia page, why should there not be an Article. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fußball1888 (talk • contribs) 18:25, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Fußball1888: see WP:NOTINHERITED, WP:NFOOTY (and read my statement at the deletion discussion). I hope that explains it! JavaHurricane 01:30, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Question from Jhill71 (15:41, 19 October 2021)
Hi,
I am not likely to be a frequent editor. My son is a very active editor for Wikipedia. But, if I come across something I think falls short of good information, I may do some research and post updated information. I will 'message' you if I have questions.
Thanks,
Jim
P.S. I am a fan of Wikipedia. I have used it a lot and referenced quotes when I have extracted information from Wikipedia and included the information in any documents I have published and/or authored. --Jhill71 (talk) 15:41, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
- You're welcome, Jhill71. Out of curiosity, I'd like to know which account your son edits under. JavaHurricane 15:44, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
JaveHurricane,
I don't know the name of his account. I will have to ask. He comes by the house frequently.
Thanks,
Jim Jhill71 (talk) 16:02, 19 October 2021 (UTC)Jhill71
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Notibilty of colleges and universities-
Sir, please look at these colleges' wiki page and nominate them for redirecting or deleting-
- Delhi Institute of Engineering and Technology
- Institute of Technology and Science, Mohan Nagar, Ghaziabad
- JagMohan Institute of Management and Technology
- Jahangirabad Institute of Technology
- Kali Charan Nigam Institute of Technology
- Kanpur Institute of Technology
- Krishna Institute of Technology
- Lord Krishna College of Engineering
- Moradabad Institute of Technology
- Raj Kumar Goel Engineering College
- Veera College of Engineering
- Vidya College of Engineering
Also, please look at these universities who have wiki page but not in the list of University Grants Commission (India)[1] -
- Rajasthan Sports University
- Azamgarh State University
- Saharanpur State University
- Maha Yogi Guru Gorakhnath Ayush University
Thanks. ~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:A314:34E9:2609:1DFB:ADC:76DD (talk) 17:52, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
Question from Subhajit511 (17:58, 31 October 2021)
Hello, can I add Info about a boy ? --Subhajit511 (talk) 17:58, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Subhajit511! Welcome to Wikipedia. It depends on a case by case basis: in general, the answer is no. In rare cases, where information about a young person can be verified using reliable sources, and the minor is notable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia, we may allow adding that information. But generally, the answer is no due to privacy considerations. JavaHurricane 18:41, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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- Thanks for the note John! JavaHurricane 06:23, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
Question from Ericesundberg on National Intelligence Distinguished Service Medal (19:09, 15 November 2021)
Hello, I received the National Intelligence Distinguished Service Medal (NIDSM) on 13 June 1997, how do I get my name added to "Know Recipients"? I have the medals and the citation, signed by George Tenet. --Ericesundberg (talk) 19:09, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Ericesundberg: Welcome to Wikipedia! Generally, such lists only contain people who are notable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia; the name of the person is referenced generally to a reliable source, say Reuters or NYT for instance. As you are an awardee, and your award is one of the most important in the hierarchy of the Intelligence, you might be notable enough to be included, as per these additional criteria. That said, I want to confirm that with some of my more experienced colleagues. I will let you know their opinion as soon as possible. JavaHurricane 17:36, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
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Question from Aashish.Serestha on Draft:Namrata Sapkota (07:23, 21 November 2021)
Hello Mentor --Aashish.Serestha (talk) 07:23, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Question from Aashish.Serestha on Draft:Namrata Sapkota (07:24, 21 November 2021)
Hello Mentor. I would like to know the step to publish the attached draft page entitled "Namrata Sapkota" , the request to publish the page done by previous authors was declined twice. --Aashish.Serestha (talk) 07:24, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
- Replied on the draft. JavaHurricane 07:51, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Question from PratSingh on Field strength (17:17, 22 November 2021)
Hi, I'm quite new here and would like to know what are some of the recommended websites to get scientific research work and data from? --PratSingh (talk) 17:17, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hello PratSingh! Welcome to Wikipedia. I am not a content creator, and am afraid I have not much of an idea about appropriate sources in science articles. That said, I'll refer you to the Teahouse: there are many experienced editors who regularly help out there, and I am sure you will find an answer there. Happy editing! JavaHurricane 17:30, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
ArbCom 2021 Elections voter message
uncensored with ali tajdary
hello, thank you for informing me about this article, i thoroughly reviewed the article, and by the way, since it was deleted, i wanted to return it to the wikipedia space, because i think the article is worth registering in wikipedia, and the reason for deleting it was a war between users. the user who created this article had insulted other users and for this reason almost three other users had requested to delete it and also the request to keep the article was deleted by the user who was blocked. the article is important because it is about a tv series with global coverage on a global network and a government platform.But the users who requested the removal had a problem with the links to the article.thats why i added the appropriate links that cover the whole article, such as the newspaper "shoroo" is a national newspaper, as well as three news agencies that have talked about it in full.i think the article has good ratings and deserves to be registered on wikipedia.--Confermation (talk) 14:14, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
- I reviewed that discussion before declining, and I daresay that the arguments there were excellent and hardly untoward. There is a well-argued consensus that the show is not notable, and I am afraid that the draft won't get accepted anytime soon. Try again, say a few months later, Confermation. JavaHurricane 14:36, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your explanation🌹--Confermation (talk) 14:57, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Create a Wikipedia page about me.
Hi,
I just wanted advice on how you can make a Wikipedia page about me.
A simple search on Wikipedia of “Anthony Khallouf” brings up information about myself & another search of “Australians vs The Agenda” brings up another article about my brands.
http://en.m.wiki.x.io/wiki/COVID-19_protests_in_Australia Anthony Khallouf (talk) 13:06, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Anthony Khallouf: I'd urge you to leave a request at Wikipedia:Requested articles if you are interested. See also WP:AUTOBIO and WP:COI. JavaHurricane 13:09, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Your OS ping in IRC
Hi JavaHurricane! I saw that (presumably) you pinged for an oversighter in IRC earlier today. Did you end up getting help with your request? If not, just shoot me an email and I can take a look. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:12, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Oshwah! No worries, Primefac has done the necessary work. Thank you! JavaHurricane 02:33, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
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Question from Polygork (09:36, 14 December 2021)
Hello, the note template "efn", how do you get the hatnote "[a]" to appear, so that when you move the mouse pointer to it for PC or tap on the "[a]" on a touchscreen device, a note would appear. --Polygork (talk) 09:36, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hello @Polygork! Welcome to Wikipedia. Honestly speaking, my knowledge of templates is very poor, compared to other things. I'd refer to The Teahouse, where people with more technical expertise should be able to answer you. I'm sorry I can't solve your doubts. JavaHurricane 09:53, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Concern regarding Draft:Vombatkere v. Union of India
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Question from A40585 (18:30, 27 December 2021)
Hi, thanks for the warm welcome! (Edit, realized this was kind of nooby and I didn't realize it would ping you if I responded on my talk page) --A40585 (talk) 18:31, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
- @A40585: you're welcome! No worries, even experienced editors often leave messages for thanking other editors. Also, see WP:THANK. JavaHurricane 15:52, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
Akribis Systems
Draft:Akribis Systems Press release is the only issue, right ? If there is no other issue, I will remove that link from the page
- Page deleted as advertising, account blocked for WP:UPE and a CU has since blocked a sockpuppet based on investigation. JavaHurricane 15:59, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
Coin Nerds
Hi, there is multiple links for the page, could you please help me understand what you have found that may be of concern 942digital (talk) 15:46, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- @942digital: I think you have already l discussed the problems with the article with another editor, so I can only briefly restate the advice you were given. Please see WP:NCORP. JavaHurricane 15:50, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
yes ive already addressed MrsSnoozyTurtles concerns, unless you have some particular concern thats arisen I am unaware of. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 942digital (talk • contribs) 19:20, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
Question from Ashish.swachhpan (11:44, 29 December 2021)
How to write an Article on Wikipedia --Ashish.swachhpan (talk) 11:44, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
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