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THIS ARCHIVE IS THE CONTENTS OF MY TALK PAGE FROM INCEPTION TO 30 JUNE 2005.

Hi Jack, you might want to consider adding yourself to Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Australia. -- Tim Starling 05:50, Dec 8, 2003 (UTC)

UK PM's children

per this, Lord Salisbury's youngest child was born in 1880, five years before he first became PM. Lord John Russell had several children during his tenure from 1846 to 1852. I think he would probably be the most recent, although I'm not sure. john 04:26, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Yup, it's Russell, [1]. john 06:22, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Blanche's religion & ACT Crown

Re Bob Hawke: Good edits. Of what religion is Blanche d'Alpuget a minister? Adam 15:25, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Who performs the constitutional functions of the Crown in the ACT? Adam 02:02, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi Adam. Good question. I don't quite know the answer. But I do know that when the ACT Legislative Assembly passes a law, it becomes law immediately. The Federal Government has the power to disallow any law (just as it has in the NT - eg. the Euthanasia Act), and it was threatening only this week to cancel any law the ACT Legislative Assembly might make to permit same-sex marriages (we'll see about that in the fullness of time). And what I do know (as a recently departed long-term ACT citizen) that one of the differences between the ACT and the NT is that the NT has an Administrator one of whose functions is to give Royal Assent to acts, whereas in the ACT no such office exists.

Don't know about Blanche's religion either. However the curious paradox of an avowed atheist marrying a Minister of a Christian church was given some media coverage at the time. I don't believe she belongs to any of the mainstream religions. JackofOz 02:37, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Eritrea/Eretria

Eritrea and Eretria are two different places. It is considered bad manners to edit other people's User pages, and certainly to edit them erroneously. Adam 03:00, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Oops, my mistake (mistakes, actually) - please accept my apologies. JackofOz 01:35, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Migrate

"Migrate" always sounds very aimless and nomadic to me. Maybe it's just me. - Nunh-huh 02:50, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Luis of Braganza

Dear Jack, i remove the Guiness book of records references in Luís Filipe, Duke of Braganza and his dad's articles because: 1) Guiness Book is not a reference for historical matters; 2) I never saw a reference of a Luis II anywhere else until today (in wiki); 3) Luis Filipe was not a Crown Prince (like you have in other European Monarchies) because Portuguese Kings are not even crowned, they are invested by the Virgin Mary as her representatives (because its the Virgin who wears the Royal Crown of Portugal since 1640); 4) if not a Crown Prince, the poor boy was not automatically king after his father's death since he was not invested in this dignity. I hope i made things clearer. All the best, MvHG 11:09, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

I agree with your changes, except the phrase i just removed (because the Guiness Book might be fun, but hardly a reference). So... how happens that an Australian knows about Fatima? I am impressed. When John IV of Portugal became king in 1640, after 60 years of Spanish dominion, crowned the Virgin Mary as Queen as a thanksgiving for the restoration of Independence. Since the Lady does not appear to die, she is still Queen. And that is why the kings of Portugal lack a crown in every portrait and why the Crown prince title is inexistant. This was way before the Fatima sightings, by then Portugal was already a Republic. The Portuguese Queen is the Nossa Senhora da Sagrada Conceicao (Our Lady of the Sacred Conception) MvHG 10:29, 22 May 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I am very interested in the whole Fatima story. See my prediction at Talk:Our Lady of Fatima (which has not yet eventuated). JackofOz 04:50, 24 May 2004 (UTC)

Richard Tauber

Hi, very interesting to find you on Tauber's website. Tauber was the Uncle of my great grand father. Are you related to the Tauber family. Gisela S.

Butler

I am referring to phrases like "immediately leaving for a three-week overseas honeymoon" (he didn't leave immediately), "the Premier Paul Lennon was forced to ask him to refrain" (he wasn't forced to ask), "three very public appearances" (they weren't very public, they were just public), etc. All these seem designed to put Butler in the worst possible light, which is not what the article should be doing. Adam 03:02, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Alright, then. I was concerned about your use of the word "insinuating". Insinuation implies things that readers are meant to infer. That is a cowardly way of communicating, because the writer can always deny having expressed such a view and simply accuse disaffected readers of "transference". If I overstated the case against Butler, mea maxima culpa. I already stand corrected. But far from insinuating anything, at least I had the balls to state explicitly what I believed to be the case. Please continue to criticise me, where appropriate, for the words I actually use, but please do not accuse me of "insinuating" anything. Cheers JackofOz 23:25, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Australian wikipedians' message board

Hi Jack. I've created a page (with an idea blatantly plagiarised from our Irish counterparts) where any interested Australians can get together and coordinate efforts to fill some of the (rather large) holes in Australian content. If you're interested, it's at Wikipedia:Australian wikipedians' notice board. Any assistance you could give would be appreciated. Ambi 06:02, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thanks! Can you think of any other articles that really need creating? I know there's quite a lot missing, particularly in the areas of society and history. Ambi 07:36, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

GPO Box 9994

What was your evidence that the ABC's GPO Box choice of 9994 was NOT due to Bradman's average? I'm having trouble locating much via Google, but Karen Tighe thought it was so, and the presenters of NewsRadio have stated it numerous times.

Mark Hurd 03:58, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hi. Good question. The choice of 9994 has traditionally been attributed to one-time General Manager Sir Charles Moses, who was a great cricket fan and a personal friend of Bradman's. However, I have read more than once that this is an urban myth and has been explicitly denied by the ABC, at various times in the years leading up to Bradman's death when interest in him was at a peak. It seems to have been a simple coincidence of numbers. However I have no source that would lay this to rest one way or the other. Maybe a call to ABC Sport might help.

If you think about it, although the ABC was the traditional cricket-lover's station back in the 'good old days', the ABC nevertheless had a much wider brief than just cricket, so it would have been odd to tie its official address to a piece of symbolism that was specifically related to one quite minor part of its overall operations. Cheers JackofOz 02:45, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi, Jack--I just saw your note on my temp page (miraculously! I didn't have it watchlisted, and was just checking to see what I had left there). The spelling was corrected in the final article, so thanks. Yes, Alkan was quite an interesting guy, (and damn near impossible to play, at least for me!) I always thought the Talmud story was true--he put the loftiest volume in the loftiest position, metaphorically, and was crushed to death while reaching for it; but after reading more about this too-strange-to-be-true story I'm coming to think it is apocryphal after all. --Always good to meet someone else interested in classical music; there aren't many of us editing in the area nowadays. Cheers! Antandrus 22:33, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Wikifun round 4

Hi, I noticed that you competed in a previous round, so I just wanted to tell you that Round 4 of the Wikifun trivia quiz is now running... -- Eugene van der Pijll 22:33, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

• Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
• Multi-Licensing Guide
• Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Talk:Charles Darwin

Your edit of 16 September 2004 on Charles Darwin was appropriate, but someone deleted the comment altogether earlier this month. I reverted that deletion and believe it or not the mother of all edit wars ensued. Just thought you'd like to know. Vincent 09:25, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Cheers for that. Interesting how the so-called "trivial" seems to exercise an inordinate degree of influence over some people. JackofOz 01:50, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Well, as embarrassed as I am at finding myself in this position, I am after all one of those "willing to fight to death" for this. I guess you should include me in those "some people". <sigh> Anyway, cheers Vincent 03:49, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

No, I wasn't having a go at you or anybody else. I love these sorts of dramas - they make life interesting. I'm just fascinated how when an issue provokes strong opinions from a lot of people, and generates a lot of heat, we can still get to call the subject matter "trivial". Actions speak louder than words. Christmas cheers JackofOz 22:28, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Sorabji

Good edit, in my opinion — sorry to raise such a bother over the earlier one. I think the Symphonic Variations, among a number of other works, is coming out in a performing edition if you haven't already heard. I keep thinking of writing the maintainer of the Archive site to update the scores page a bit; it's been a good year for fans of the composer. Schissel - bowl listen 03:54, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)

Russian syntax

...alows considerable variation of word order, as the article now states. There. Will that do? The important thing is that deviations from the standard SVO colour the meaning, and, unless used in a precise context, will seem very unnatural. A. Shetsen 02:12, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)