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editHowdy. Recommend you read up on WP:INDENT, for how to indent responding posts :) GoodDay (talk) 21:41, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Okay I am new here Jackal Himorse (talk) 03:00, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Do you have up until 45 years?
editFor longest monarchs list? I'm trying to get down to 45 years, I was wondering if you have those monarchs. Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 21:10, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
Yes
- Can you share them with me? Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 05:36, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Sure just wait for some time i make a Part 2 soon..... And i also found this guy Casimir IV Jagiellon who ruled Lithuania for 51 Years,343 Days and Juan II of Aragon who was king of Navarre for 53 Years,103 Days so this affects the ranking a bit along with Mudzaffar Shah III of Kedah with a reign of 55 Years,200 Days being 26th on the list
57 Sulaiman Shah I of Kedah 49 Years,358 Days
58 George I of Greece 49 Years,353 Days
59 Basil II of the Byzantine Empire (Greece) 49 Years,341 Days
60 Charles Emmanuel I of Savoy 49 Years,332 Days
61 Akbar the Great,Mughal Emperor 49 Years,259 Days
62 Ataullah Muhammad Shah I of Kedah 49 Years,173 Days
63 Qaboos Bin Said 49 Years and 160 or 142 Days (His state was a British Protectorate for the first 18 days of his reign)
64 Philippe I the Amourus 49 Years,66 Days
65 Henry IV, Holy Roman Emperor 49 Years,50 Days (Only a approximate date tho)
66 Carlos I of Netherlands and Burgundy 49 Years,30 Days
67 William I the Lion of Scotland 48 Years,360 Days
68 Elizabeth II of the Bahamas 48 Years,318 Days
69 Al-Mutawakkil Yahya Sharaf Ad-Din 48 Years,307 Days
70 Charles XVI Gustaf of Sweden 48 Years,251 Days
71 Aurangzeb 48 Years,215 Days
72 Theodosius II the Younger 48 Years,198 Days
73 Carol I of Romania 48 Years,173 Days
74 Liao Shengzong AKA Yelu Longxu 48 Years,153 Days
75 João I of Portugal 48 Years,135 Days
76 Elizabeth II Grenada 48 Years,106 Days
77 Władysław II Jagiełło 48 Years,88 Days
78 Amadeus VIII, Duke of Savoy 48 Years,67 Days
79 Ming Shenzong (Wanli Emperor) AKA Zhu Yijun 48 Years,43 Days
80 Leopold I HRE 48 Years,38 Days
81 Sālote Tupou III 47 Years,255 Days
82 Naser Al-Din Shah Qajar 47 Years,237 Days
83 John II of Castile and León 47 Years,207 Days
84 Constantine VII of the Byzantine Empire (Greece) 47 Years,125 Days
85 George Tupou I of Tongo 47 Years,76 Days
86 Emperor Wu of Liang (China) AKA Xiao Yan 47 Years,42 Days
I do the rest later Yourlocallordandsavior Jackal Himorse (talk) 08:16, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I also found Sukjong of Joseon for 46 years.
17 September 1674 12 July 1720 46 years, 295 days Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 07:21, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the help I also found this guy
Amadeus VIII, Duke of Savoy 48 Years,67 Days so we start from 82 Jackal Himorse (talk) 09:04, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Here is Part 2
87 John V Palaiologos 46 years, 300 days
88 Sukjong of Joseon 46 Years,295 Days
89 Hussein Bin Talal 46 Years,181 Days
90 Andronikos II Palaiologos 46 Years,164 Days
91 Charlemagne the Great 46 Years,110 Days
92 Frederick the Great 46 Years,77 Days
93 Suleiman the Magnificent 45 Years,349 Days
94 Gojong of Goryeo 45 Years,330 Days
95 Victor Emmanuel III 45 Years,319 Days
96 Saeed bin Maktoum bin Hasher Al Maktoum of Dubai 45 Years,314 Days
97 Charlotte of Luxembourg 45 Years,304 Days
98 Ming Shizong AKA Zhu Houjun 45 years, 241 days
99 Al-Nasir of the Abbasid Caliphate 45 years, 180 days
100 Emperor Meji the Great of Japan 45 Years,179 Days
101 Liao Daozong Aka Yelu Hongji 45 Years,168 Days
102 Bagrat IV of Georgia 45 years, 98 days
103 Philip V of Spain 45 years, 17 days Yourlocallordandsavior Found any more? Because these were the only ones i could find currently Jackal Himorse (talk) 09:38, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Franz Joseph II of Liechtenstein: Liechtenstein 25 July 1938 13 November 1989 18,739 51 years, 111 days Aurangzeb: Mughal Empire 31 July 1658 3 March 1707 17,747 48 years, 215 days Victor Emmanuel III Kingdom of Italy 29 July 1900 9 May 1946 - 46 years, 319 days Lý Nhân Tông: Ly dynasty (Dai Viet) 1 February 1072 15 January 1128 (approx dates) - 45 years, 300 days Al-Nasir: Abbasid Caliphate 28 March 1180 5 October 1225 - 45 years, 180 days Philip V of Spain 45 years, 17 days Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 23:26, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Franz Joseph II was already on the OG list but thanks regardless i have thankfully corrected the mistakes and made the list better (: and i also changed the mind on Aurangzeb and consider most Indian states before 1712 to be fully sovereign in their Own Reign Yourlocallordandsavior I was also able to make a top 100 Jackal Himorse 💬
- I feel like there are some strange insertions, including Tonga, Tahiti, Burundi, and Anjou, and Sao King Muang and Lone Horn (both have no exact dates on Wikipedia). Also, why do you give the UAE rulers a spot? Aren't they dependencies? Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 23:08, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- New: Al-Mustansir Billah:
Fatimid Caliphate June 13, 1036 (15th Shaban, 427 AH) January 6, 1095 (18th Zilhaja, 487 AH) (approx dates, don't know how to fully convert from Muslim calendar) 21,391 58 years, 207 days, Theodosius II 48 years, 198 days, John V Palaiologos 46 years, 300 days, and Bagrat IV of Georgia 45 years, 98 days Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 00:40, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
I excluded Lone Horn and replaced him with Abdullah I Al-Sabah of Kuwai
UAE wasn’t a united state until 1971 The Sao guy was only a approximate date I found from websites like Worldstatesman.org and ETc I thought Burundi was a sovereign state?
If a Burgundian monarch is there so I think Anjou should have as well,IMO i consider most French states until like 1100 to be sovereign in their own reign
Tonga appears to be a fully sovereign state from what i could find meanwhile Tahiti was apparently a French Protectorate so the Franks guy is currently 50th unless more consensus is given Anyways I am gonna add those rulers you said Anyways I’m working on an similar list on Indonesian Wikipedia (I used Google translate so some names may not be 100% accurate) so some help would be appericated. https://id.wiki.x.io/wiki/Daftar_penguasa_monarki_saat_ini_yang_menjabat_terlama I also found the start date for Muhammad Jiwa Zainal Adilin II of Kedah his father’s article says that he died on 15 Febuarary [[[User:Jackal Himorse|Jackal Himorse]] (talk) 03:37, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if Anjou was ever independent (judging from what you said about the Franks guy). The Burundi guy's wiki page says that most of his reign coincided with a Belgian protectorate. Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 21:24, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Oops
editIn restoring a longstanding version of List of longest-reigning monarchs, I may have wiped out an edit of yours. GoodDay (talk) 19:35, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Actually the "Holy Roman Empire" edit i made still stands but it's fine Jackal Himorse (talk) 04:57, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Can you add the Kedah 1778 guy to that list?
editAppreciate the recent edits you did on the longest-reigning list. I noticed that I have this Kedah 1778 guy in my notes who should be up there. There's quite a few generations of Kedah rulers who ruled for 50-60 years that should arguably be on there too from 1500-1800 that you might want to also consider. Thanks Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 00:15, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
Yourlocallordandsavior If you're talking about Muhammad II he is already on the Third Table but i add him now Addionally while i now excluded Queen Pomare (Or Something) of Tahiti,The Burundi Guy and the Tahiti Queen (As Tahiti was a British Protectorate from 1901 to like 1971) and now are replaced by the following
Ibrahim Shah of Kedah 52 Years and 79 Years
Ibn Saud/Abdulaziz bin Abdul Rahman Al Saud of Hejaz and Nejd (1902 – 1932) and then Saudi Arabic (1932 – 1953) 51 Years and 300 Days
(Although he did change his State he still reigned in Arabia so i think He Meets The Criteria)
Heinrich XIV, Prince Reuss Younger Line 45 Years and 263 Days (His Reign started little over a Year after the German Confederation Ended and died the year before WW1 so I Think He too Meets the Criteria)
Ibrahim Adil Shah II of Bijapur Sultanate 48 Years and 26 Days Jackal Himorse (talk) 03:53, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- How many guys you got over 45 years so far that were independent? I've apparently got 98. Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 22:53, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
I actually got up to 40
26 Lý Nhân Tông of Vietnam 55 Years and 346 Days
27 Rainier III of Monaco 55 Years and 332 Days
28 Mudzaffar Shah III of Kedah 55 Years and 200 Days
29 Lord Nguyễn Hoàng 55 Years and 125 Days
30 Elizabeth II of Barbados 55 Years and 0 Days
31 Moulay Ismail Ben Shariff 54 Years and 342 Days
32 Han Wudi of the Han Dynasty 54 Years and 22 Days
33 Thutmose III of Ancient Egypt 53 Years and 320 Days
34 Frederick III of Germany HRE 53 Years and 188 Days
34 Juan II of Navarre 53 Years and 103 Days
35 Fulk III of Anno 52 Years and 337 Days
36 Frederick II of Sicily 52 Years and 210 Days
37 Abdullah I Al-Sabah of Kuwait 52 Years and 120 Days
38 Ibrahim Shah of Kedah 52 Years and 79 Days
39 William II the Conqueror of Normandy 52 Years,68 Days 40 Tahmasp I of Persia 51 Years,357 Days
41 Casimir IV Jagiellon of Lituania 51 Years and 342 Days 42 Haakon VII of Norway 51 Years,307 Days
43 Ibn Saud/Abdulaziz bin Abdul Rahman Al Saud of Hejaz and Nejd (1902 – 1932) and then Saudi Arabic (1932 – 1953) 51 Years and 300 Days
44 Said bin Sultan 51 Years,197 Days 45 Yeongjo Of Joseon 51 Years,188 Days 46 Henry IV, Holy Roman Emperor 51 Years,167 Days 47 Franz Joseph II 51 Years,111 Days
48 Peter IV Of Aragon 50 Years,346 Days 49 Sigismund Of Hungary 50 Years,253 Days
50 Magrethe II of Denmark 50 Years and 179 Days+
51 Edward III 50 Years & 147 Days 52 Joanna Of Castile 50 Years & 137 Days 53 Ivan The Terrible 50 Years & 116 Days 54 Sao Kin Maung 50 Years & 3 Days
55 Cloathaire (Probally butchered the name lol) I 50 Years and 2 Days
56 Sulaiman Shah I of Kedah 49 Years,358 Days
57 George I of Greece 49 Years,353 Days
58 Basil II of the Byzantine Empire (Greece) 49 Years,341 Days
59 Charles Emmanuel I of Savoy 49 Years,332 Days
60 Akbar the Great,Mughal Emperor 49 Years,259 Days
61 Ataullah Muhammad Shah I of Kedah 49 Years,173 Days
62 Qaboos Bin Said 49 Years and 160 or 142 Days (His state was a British Protectorate for the first 18 days of his reign)
63 Philippe I the Amourus 49 Years,66 Days
64 Henry IV, Holy Roman Emperor 49 Years,50 Days (Only a approximate date tho)
65 Carlos I of Netherlands and Burgundy 49 Years,30 Days
66 William I the Lion of Scotland 48 Years,360 Days
67 Elizabeth II of the Bahamas 48 Years,318 Days
68 Al-Mutawakkil Yahya Sharaf Ad-Din 48 Years,307 Days
69 Charles XVI Gustaf of Sweden 48 Years,251 Days
70 Aurangzeb 48 Years,215 Days
71 Theodosius II the Younger 48 Years,198 Days
72 Carol I of Romania 48 Years,173 Days
73 Liao Shengzong AKA Yelu Longxu 48 Years,153 Days
74 João I of Portugal 48 Years,135 Days
75 Elizabeth II Grenada 48 Years,106 Days
77 Władysław II Jagiełło 48 Years and 88 Days
78 Amadeus VIII, Duke of Savoy 48 Years and 67 Days
79 Ming Shenzong (Wanli Emperor) AKA Zhu Yijun 48 Years,43 Days
80 Leopold I HRE 48 Years and 38 Days
81 Ibrahim Adil Shah II of Bijapur Sultanate 48 Years and 26 Days
82 Naser Al-Din Shah Qajar 47 Years,237 Days
83 John II of Castile and León 47 Years,207 Days
84 Constantine VII of the Byzantine Empire (Greece) 47 Years,125 Days
85 George Tupou I of Tongo 47 Years,76 Days
86 Emperor Wu of Liang (China) AKA Xiao Yan 47 Years,42 Days
87 John V Palaiologos 46 years, 300 days
88 Hussein Bin Talal 46 Years,181 Days
89 Andronikos II Palaiologos 46 Years,164 Days
90 Charlemagne the Great 46 Years,110 Days
91 Frederick the Great 46 Years,77 Days
92 Suleiman the Magnificent 45 Years,349 Days
93 Gojong of Goryeo 45 Years,330 Days
94 Victor Emmanuel III 45 Years,319 Days
95 Saeed bin Maktoum bin Hasher Al Maktoum of Dubai 45 Years,314 Days
96 Charlotte of Luxembourg 45 Years,304 Days
97 Sukjong of Joseon 45 Years,295 Days
98 Heinrich XIV, Prince Reuss Younger Line 45 Years and 263 Days
99 Ming Shizong AKA Zhu Houjun 45 years, 241 days
100 Al-Nasir of the Abbasid Caliphate 45 years, 180 days
101 Emperor Meji the Great of Japan 45 Years,179 Days
102 Liao Daozong Aka Yelu Hongji 45 Years,168 Days
103 Bagrat IV of Georgia 45 years, 98 days
104 Philip V of Spain 45 years, 17 days New Entries Update Emperor Renzong of the Western Xia Dynasty 54 Years and 118 Days
Georg II of Saxe-Meiningen 47 Years and 278 Days
Sultan Muhammad Imaaduddeen IV 48 Years and 150 Days Jackal Himorse (talk) 13:38, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
"Its"
editHi. I just wanted to mention that I reverted your edits to the Andorra article because the possessive "its" does not, in fact, have an apostrophe. "It's" has an apostrophe only when it's a contraction of "it is" or "it has". Largoplazo (talk) 21:17, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Do you know of any website databases pertaining to "Longest reigning monarchs"?
editGoogle has been pretty hard to search on lately, I was wondering if you use any sites outside of Wikipedia in order to find these monarchs? Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 22:27, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
Yourlocallordandsavior I mostly find them through older Versions of the Article, To see Monarchs who were removed for little to no reason and Verify their Articles to add them in.
Other sources are Worldstatesman and Indianrajputs (Though the former is Unreliable but does offer more Monarchs then the Latter) and at times through Comments on YouTube Videos releated to the Longest Reigning Monarchs and VIA checking Languages on Wikipedia Reign Articles.
Generally I try to find ones on Indian, HRE or African rulers as they are the Most common ones to have Long Reigns. Jackal Himorse (talk) 13:46, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
- What's VIA checking? Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 08:12, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Yourlocallordandsavior It means "from/by checking" Jackal Himorse (talk) 10:15, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Can you help find sources for Muhammad Jiwa Zainal Adilin II?
editMight be a bit of an ask, but can you help me find sources that back up the dates of rule for this guy Muhammad Jiwa Zainal Adilin II? The only thing I can find is the Light Letters (which is not digitalized and is not therefore accessible for me). Would really appreciate it. At least whenever you have the chance to do so. Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 05:26, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- Found some sources https://www.thepatriots.asia/raja-raja-melayu-paling-lama-memerintah-dalam-sejarah/ which then brought me to this http://www.royalark.net/Malaysia/kedah3.htm, though it might not be good enough. Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 00:31, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- Found source conflicts for his reign. Some sources say 1710, this Oxford book says his reign began in 1723, so its possibly a no go for this guy for list #1. Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 00:52, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- Quick tip, definitely try to use Google Books/Google Scholar and type in the name or thing you're searching for, i.e. academic authors. Google's search engine is very crappy, though it's not as bad as the Youtube search engine. Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 07:29, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
You know who's Idris of Tampin and Darma Raja of Kedah?
editYou stated that in the edit history for Muhammad Jiwa Zainal and I can't seem to find a Wiki for those two people. Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 07:15, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Yourlocallordandsavior Neither have one but for Idris he was apparently in the List as early as 2015 and as for Darma Raja His source is The Kedah Sultanate page of the Hindu rulers section
There is a monarch with a 180 year reign but it way to hard to believe and i think about 5–8 rulers with the Guy's name took the Throne
Jackal Himorse (talk) 09:29, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Any new discoveries (at least in the top 50?) for longest-reigning monarchs?
editHey, you found any new discoveries these past few months? Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 23:34, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Who did you replace at number 25?
editShouldn't there be 26 if you readded the Kedah guy back? Also, it's a dedicated academic book from Oxford about the history of Kedah. It might be from 1971 but I take that source more seriously than the others. Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 05:08, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
Yourlocallordandsavior I was busy at work but yes Also in some monarchies the regencies end at the monarch's early 20s or Earlish Mid 20s Hence i think 1723 was she his Regency ended Jackal Himorse (talk) 08:48, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- Who was the guy you replaced then? Or was it a number mistake from before? Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 09:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
Number Mistake Jackal Himorse (talk) 09:42, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
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Would be the next?
editTank you very much by the references Historygeographyknowledge (talk) 20:43, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- No Problem S302921 (talk) 21:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Do you know of any other monarchs that could make the list? Historygeographyknowledge (talk) 09:36, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- could Fulk III, Count of Anjou count because we already counted A ruler of Burgundy. Also i couldn't find a source for Abdullah I of Kuwait's start date even on the Rulers of Kuwait so should we remove him like what happened to Muhammad II of Kedah some time ago Then. S302921 (talk) 12:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wasn't Anjou a prerogative of East Francia?
- Was it only for Abdulah I that this occurred?
- What about William the Conqueror? Does his 52-year reign in Normandy count or was he a vassal of the French Crown? Historygeographyknowledge (talk) 18:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure have to research, no this also happened with Muhammad II of Kedah (he got moved to the third list) and I'll look into the latter. S302921 (talk) 19:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- So is it better to remove Abdulah I or did you find any reliable source about it? Add Fulk III and William the Conqueror? Historygeographyknowledge (talk) 12:38, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Probably. Also Jogaila's page states he first rules between some time in May 1377 and August 1381 and again from some time in August 1382 towards 1 June 1434. This would give a reign of about 55 Years (no Exact date) so should be also be removed Then? S302921 (talk) 12:14, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- In addition the Duchy of Normandy page states it was a vassal of the French so William would have sovereignty years of about twenty years of this is indeed true. I think this is similar to Eleanor of Aquatine who was technically sovereign after 1154 through her husband Henry II becoming King of England. S302921 (talk) 12:16, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay. I'll leave Jogaila on the list. I'll just add "second reign" and a note about it, since this list counts contiguous reigns, without interruptions.Guilherme, just 20 years old, is left out. Historygeographyknowledge (talk) 15:10, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- We still aren’t fully sure of his exact start dates in 1377 and 1382 so again i'm not sure if he would qualify for the first list. S302921 (talk) 19:26, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay. I'll leave Jogaila on the list. I'll just add "second reign" and a note about it, since this list counts contiguous reigns, without interruptions.Guilherme, just 20 years old, is left out. Historygeographyknowledge (talk) 15:10, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- So is it better to remove Abdulah I or did you find any reliable source about it? Add Fulk III and William the Conqueror? Historygeographyknowledge (talk) 12:38, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure have to research, no this also happened with Muhammad II of Kedah (he got moved to the third list) and I'll look into the latter. S302921 (talk) 19:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- could Fulk III, Count of Anjou count because we already counted A ruler of Burgundy. Also i couldn't find a source for Abdullah I of Kuwait's start date even on the Rulers of Kuwait so should we remove him like what happened to Muhammad II of Kedah some time ago Then. S302921 (talk) 12:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Do you know of any other monarchs that could make the list? Historygeographyknowledge (talk) 09:36, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Indenting
editHowdy. It's best not to indent your posts any further, right after your on previous post, per WP:INDENT. GoodDay (talk) 19:22, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
No Problem. In the future I’ll try to be careful of this. S302921 (talk) 20:04, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
In other words, this is good. GoodDay (talk) 19:22, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Where's this is not good. GoodDay (talk) 19:22, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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