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I can't contact or write to this user who deleted my draft page User Bbb23 - talk:@ProClasher97 Ilijadjordum (talk) 07:46, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Croatian Tales of Long Ago - animated collection

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Croatian Tales of Long Ago - animated collection, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. ProClasher97 ~ Have A Question? 15:52, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

The page wasn't finished and wasn't sent to evaluation, and the reference list was missing, but you deleted it. Why? Is it because it is an accomplishment from professionals from a small country, Croatia, so you don't believe what was written there? What do you need me to send you to get back the page?

HOw can I write to the person who deleted it? I am new to wirkipedia editing and adding stuff, wasiting my time for what? Thtis is truly frustraitng expirience, insted to help small nations and cultures ot better position their acomplishemnt in thie world, you totlay discouraging us? With htis it is obvious that WIKIPEDIA have tendencies to discriminate the small naitons ... This is scandal. Ilijadjordum (talk) 09:45, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Still no answer?? Now it is not so important? I even couldn't do anything as you suggested here - "If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion"." - JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WIKIPEDIA DIDIN'T GAVE ME THAT OPINION. I doubt that A.I. iz editing and answering to real people efforts? Is that maybe correct? SHall I report that A.I. is making a fake hystory on wikipedia, abusing humans for some strange wikipedia profits? This promtt deletition of unpublished article, stilin editing process, totlay unimportant to anyone but maybe 10 profesors of croatian and slavic cultures and 100 students?? If you will be so fats with so many hollywood promotinal pages learth will be much better place to live. THis deletition is truly suspitious? Ilijadjordum (talk) 12:23, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Ilijadjordum, calm down, a lot of what you said above is unclear. Try to be concise and specific. If the link at Croatian Tales of Long Ago isn't correct, edit that page to fix it. To a create a new article, it must meet Wikipedia's notability criteria and supported by reliable and secondary sources. Primary sources like publisher's website and Amazon are not acceptable. Thanks! —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 17:27, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

CX Zoom you should "calm down". What kind of language is this?

Why page IS DELETED before it was finished and sent to evaluation?

WHY I CAN'T MAKE THE SAME PAGE? Is it so "dangerous" ot mislead humanity to what?? You should help to small naitns to spred their knowledge, not like policemen go around and delete all before it is even finished. Maybe I can write few articles for the global portals and media about this unfair nationalistic experience + send to all Slavic universities a note about this rude incident?

Ok so when YOU CALM DOWN do the following:

1. ANSWER MY QUESTIONS
2. WHAT IS YOUR REAL NAME REFERENCE in your life and WHY YOU ARE "ADVANCED" TO EVALUATE AND ANSWER with not answering again?

thx Ilijadjordum (talk) 07:26, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

I can't contact or write to this user who deleted my draft page - the User Bbb23 - talk:@ProClasher97 I Ilijadjordum (talk) 07:48, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Stop shouting Ilijadjordum, shouting and arguing recklessly won't get you anywhere. There are many ways to talk with civility. If you can't do that, it is the end of road for me trying to help you. Thanks and good luck. —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 08:31, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't shout, I am asking for help

So I provided a links, and did you chek the links? Can I continue my edit? Ilijadjordum (talk) 09:08, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

And in order to be more helpšful to me, let me know shortly when I can expect the return of the page that was deleted? So that I can save time again to finish that. Is it soon, or in few days or? Ilijadjordum (talk) 09:15, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Ilijadjordum. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:Croatian Tales of Long Ago, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

• avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. You have a similar COI with the related article Helena Bulaja Bbb23 (talk) 13:02, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Also I just relaize in your repetitive answer you refering to wrong page. Page I start to wirite was about animated colleciton - Draft:Croatian Tales of Long Ago - animated collection that is an of the mostt important Croatian cultural projects. Can you resotre my draft? Ilijadjordum (talk) 14:32, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Just relaize that You are refering to wrong page in you answer. Page I start to wirite was about animated colleciton - Draft:Croatian Tales of Long Ago - animated collection that is an of the mostt important Croatian cultural projects. Can you resotre my draft? Ilijadjordum (talk) 14:33, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Any info when I can continue to edit draft. It will be nice if you can answer me promptly are you willing to get back my draft or not, as I reserved this weekend? It will be nice to respect other people efforts too? Just let me know when the draft will be on again? Or if not, then please mark clearly examples in my txt why it was deleted? As yet it is not relly clear, but if you made mistake, ok no need to apologies, just get me back page as I want to finish it this weekend. thx Ilijadjordum (talk) 15:52, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

I will not restore the draft. It was properly deleted per WP:G11.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:53, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

No it was't. Can you extract the examples from the txt, and what is wrong with references I sent you? Ilijadjordum (talk) 16:07, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Please give the EXACT EVIDENCES WHY YOU DELETED THIS that violated the wikipedia rules, or if you will not, it means there is no evidences and I will simply report you for nationalistic tendencies towards small nations. ok? And sure, if you keep insisting on "Your right" I will send this scandal to all universities in the world wiht the copy of those beautiful stories and animations, all to warn them about fake wikipedia editing and tendencies to neglect small nations. You behave because you think you can. But you can't. Look at the wikipedia pages of TECH giants it is all just PROMOTION dude, and everyone knows what is wikipedia, and you restricting this. . Ilijadjordum (talk) 16:13, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

"This applies to pages that are exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten to serve as encyclopedia articles, rather than advertisements. If a subject is notable and the content could plausibly be replaced with text written from a neutral point of view, this is preferable to deletion. Note: Any article that describes its subject from a neutral point of view does not qualify for this criterion. However, "promotion" does not necessarily mean commercial promotion: anything can be promoted, including a person, a non-commercial organization, a point of view, etc."

HOW Draft:Croatian Tales of Long Ago - animated collection YOU DELETED WAS PROMOTION OF WHAT? CLARIFY.

WHAT MAKES YOU THE ONE WHO IS ABLE TO JUST DELTE WHATEVER?

Deleting it make your intentions even more suspicious as you disabled other administrators to see was it promotion or not

DIDI YOU CHEK THE REFERENCE LIST I SENT YOU? YES - NO ..

I guess you didn't as otherwise you will know YOU ARE 100% WRONG and you leading yourself into serious trouble.

ARE YOU HUMAN? .

THX Ilijadjordum (talk) 16:22, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

@Ilijadjordum: @Bbb23 is right, the page was written with a promotional tone and was seen as a way to promote the subject. This falls under Speedy Deletion Criteria G11, as he mentioned earlier. Can we just take a moment and try to calm down a little bit. Believe me, there is no malicious intent with the deletion, and nominating the page for deletion was strictly based on the Wikipedia Guidelines, I’m not trying to discriminate against smaller countries. Also, what do you mean by “report us for nationalistic tendencies?” Do you mean legal action? Anyways, just please calm down and try to act more civil, ok? ProClasher97 ~ Have A Question? 16:20, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

I am not upset, and don't treat me like an idiot. I am just disappointed you didn't check the reference list and how do you know what was in article, do you know? Or you just backing up this Bbb23? Did you check the links. You should calm down and do proper check again, and send me proper answer, or Yes I will do legal actions if this will not be clarified as it has to be.

So far you didn't give any evidence of violation by example. This is why I am 100% sure it was deleted because you can't believe that small nation producer can achieve success and innovation in digital interactive storytelling content technology like they did. DO you even know what was article about? Ilijadjordum (talk) 16:27, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

July 2022

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for making legal threats or taking legal action.

You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia while the threats stand or the legal action is unresolved.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Bbb23 (talk) 16:37, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

well well ... what is this? This is 100% proof that I am right, and that you are not treting small naitons on the same way as the big ones. This is also a proof that wikipedia tendnig to rewrite history is you are "experts" with no name just some random 3 leters and 2 numbers "exparts". I am a layer by myself . And I just wanted to do justice to truly great stuff those pople made 20 yeras ago and that cahnge lifes of so many people and served as an example for decades on universiites for development of interactive sotrytelling ocntent. THis is how I get to know about them at Oxfor University at Dust or Magic conefrecny in 2004, and was supriesd to see theree is no yet wikipedia page about that groundbreaking work!

You did so worng doing this. But this is how it is. Small nations were alwyas just slaves and nationalisitc mindset of superior naitons towards us didn't change 1%.

You made my day! You showed what is wikipedia.

Thanx you! Ilijadjordum (talk) 17:06, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

{{unblock|reason= I didn't make any legal threats, it was set up by the administraotr who comunicated with me asking me intentionaly with the idea to block me if I say yes - here is a quote by administraotr who intentionaly set up a trap for me to bloks me and make this even more complicated for no reaons but hate - "@Ilijadjordum: @Bbb23 ... Also, what do you mean by “report us for nationalistic tendencies?” Do you mean legal action? Anyways, just please calm down and try to act more civil, ok? ProClasher97 " and I answered - "Yes I will do legal actions if this will not be clarified as it has to be." - this is not threath. WKiupedia administrator intentionaly posted the quesiotn to misguide me as he decided I can be bloksed delted what so ever, but he didn't went to chek refernecees to see how this article wasn't promotion. Administraotrs just wanted ot be "right" no metter how. ~~~~}}. Ilijadjordum (talk) 17:19, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

@Ilijadjordum: What I asked wasn’t intended to be a set up, I was asking something that I inferred based on your comments. I was just trying to ask you if you could calm down a little bit and act more civil, that’s all. As I said before, I have no intentions of discriminating against smaller nations, I’m just following Wikipedia’s policies, which as multiple people, myself included, informed you that your page was deleted because it fell under G11 of the CSD criteria. We aren’t experts, we are all volunteers who enjoy working on things here, we don’t want to discriminate against anything, including the size of countries. @Bbb23 would probably agree with what I’m telling you. Again, there is no malicious intent coming from deleting the page or anywhere on Wikipedia. ProClasher97 ~ Have A Question? 17:28, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

• TPA access revoked.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:16, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

This user denies making legal threats. I see no legal threats. What it appears the editor meant was that he/she would not do illegal actions, which is a sign of self control. I see no reason for revoking talk page access nor blocking for making legal threats. I do see anger, but that does not justify permanent blocking and revoking talk page access. The admin, Bbb23, is known to be unrepentant to correct unblock and even had his/her recent block overturned by a checkuser and seeming concurred by another administrator (for unblock). This sort of bad admin behavior severely damages Wikipedia because it creates long term ill will towards the encyclopedia when it is the fault of one small administrator. This small administrator also became an admin under questionable circumstances, such as having too detailed edit summaries on his/her first edit, a sign of a sockpuppet, almost insufficient article creation before his/her RFA, and ceasing editing after becoming an admin, just wielding the power of an admin in a gleeful way without editing any articles in any meaningful way.

Decline reason:

This unblock request is deeply inappropriate. Yamla (talk) 10:01, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

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