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Hi Helmardine--I'm sure you know Snorkeling exists already; you focus more on technical aspects. But here's the thing: what you cite, most of what you cite, aren't secondary sources. It's mostly technical information sourced with documents that outline standards, patents, etc., but Wikipedia requires secondary sourcing. See WP:V. Without that, I doubt that this will be accepted in article space. Good luck, Drmies (talk) 18:29, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

I'm less worried than my friend, the good doctor about your over-reliance on primary sources. They are acceptable if used carefully, although more secondary sources would definitely benefit the article. Check the Snorkeling article for sources that you can re-use as you split the article. Have a look through BSAC and PADI manuals, see what's around on descriptive sources like the Divernet one you already have used. If you want me to give an opinion on the quality of sources you're uncertain about, please ask me.

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I'm really happy to see another editor keen to improve our scuba articles. Have you considered joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Underwater diving? You'd be very welcome. --RexxS (talk) 23:49, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

I will second all of what RexxS says above. Ping me if you need help with sourcing - I may know of something useful.

Also, well done for exposing a hole in our coverage, i.e. standards. There is a lot of scope for improvement there, specially if you have access to the documents, which is often a problem. I have added a section to the navbox for diving equipment for standards, and now we just need to populate it with articles. Use my talk page to discuss diving articles if you prefer, but I watch Wikipedia:WikiProject Underwater diving and it is a suitable space to discuss anything about diving articles. particularly those which don't yet exist. Cheers. · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 04:51, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

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ISO 21416-2019 Recreational diving services

Hi Helmardine, Do you have access to ISO 21416-2019 Recreational diving services? Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 08:59, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Afraid not. I had to buy all my own copies of the standards I've mentioned so far in diving articles, and I see that the ISO standard costs over £120! Considering that the Russians post their standards online for free download...

There's a summary of the standard at https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:70875:en. Helmardine (talk) 10:11, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

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Learn something new every day — thanks! 100.36.106.199 (talk) 14:40, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

A pleasure. I knew that five-year Latin course I completed at secondary school in the early 1960s would come in useful one day! Most Latin masculine nouns ending in "-us" belong to the second declension in Latin, where the plural form does end in "-i" (e.g. dominus, domini). The smaller fourth-declension group of masculine nouns, including apparatus, comes with a singular ending in "-us" and a plural ending in "-ūs" (long u vowel). Helmardine (talk) 15:23, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Serves me right for quitting after three semesters :(. 100.36.106.199 (talk) 18:36, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

I did a degree in French and German during the late 1960s. While working as a school foreign language assistant on my year abroad in France, I enrolled on a part-time language laboratory course at a nearby French university. I quit after one session, not because of the new technology but because the practice assignments required me to memorise the thirty-word-long French sentences I heard through the headset before converting them to the past tense. I still believe that the memory overload involved was unreasonably heavy, that I should have had a written backup and that I was right to quit because the methodology was inappropriate for me at that time. Helmardine (talk) 19:35, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

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