User talk:H/Archive 19

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Weed wiki

• This conversation is in reference to [1] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:54, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

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here[2] you mentioned you had a wiki that could be used for a how-to book for the cultivation of cannabis. What is the link? I'd still like to get it on wikibooks though, it would be an excellent central source, it would be able to get much more traffic than the myriad of tiny wikis and forums out there. I'll check out your wiki though. Harley peters 22:03, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Ya, it is just my personal wiki for organizing my projects, you can use it but WikiBooks will have alot more attention, I get almost 0 outside hits to my wiki. You can build a section off of here[3] if you like, just respect copyright laws and such. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:54, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Concerning GNAA/Timecop's recent harrassment of another person

I am working on behalf of the international radio talk show host & webmaster Mr. Turner [4]. I have notified Mr. Turner of your problem with the harrasser(s) in question, so your assistance may be of use since he have the resources in tracking down the harrassing party.

Mr. Turner have a pending lawsuit filed against the harrassers since they "prank called" his talk show last Wednesday and things went worse from there after he posted the phone numbers of harrassing callers.

When Mr. Turner contacts you upon his reception of pertinent information regarding your recent dispute with the party led by timecop in active participation to perpetuate mental anguish & trauma, your input would be appreciated.

I wrote a post summarizing the incident [5] that may be biased but I strive to tell the truth as far as the chain of events is concerned. This post includes the partial (second update that Saturday) excerpt of Hal Turner's statement which is quite disturbing in providing the detail of the harrassers' threatening nature.

I also provided the circumstantial evidence through the links[6] that may persuade the reader that the harrassing posts and threatening phone calls made to Mr. Turner & his party is GNAA/Timecop's m.o. as proven by their style of scripted jargon and persistent harrassing messages with offensive "shock site" links embedded in the Haloscan comment page [7] connected to the article that expose the harrassers' whereabouts. Note Mr. Turner's responses to harrassers' posts (marked in bold). Their m.o. in identical security breaching by exploitation, textual style & exhibition of obscene photos had perpetrated Xanga exactly two years ago as well as a tiny portion of MySpace this year.

HalTurnerShow.com web site is currently down due to DoS in the last 48 hours, so you could try Google cache to verify Mr. Turner's physical page. I can send the HTML e-mail containing the whole page with phone numbers and Mr. Turner's description of their failed attempt at deception to escape Mr. Turner's wrath upon returning their supposedly 'anonymous' phone calls included if you'd like.

Other listening members of Hal Turner Show are also working on tracking down the persons responsible for the disturbing threats.

Update: Hal Turner explains what happened on VNN forum [8]. He provided the email address in the post for contact.

Btw, here's the opinion column [9] written by the web designer in arguing his POV that GNAA is a genuine terrorist group.

Update 2: Could you please check with "Hal Turner" wiki talk page and its history? Someone keeps reverting to add improper comments in place of my second paragraph in the second reply. I reverted twice with comments. Thanks.

Thank you for your time. G.O.L.A.Z. 09:51, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Not interested, thank you. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:49, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Concerning your message on the IIPM website at wikipedia

• This conversation is in reference to [10] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:56, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

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I noticed you had commented recently on a wiki site of IIPM. I wished to find out from you how to complain against a wiki administrator who, I have reasons and proof to believe, is misusing his powers to support one particular editor. If you can kindly show me the appropriate forum, I'll lodge a complaint against the administrator. I searched wiki and have not been able to find a link for the same. You could perhaps also go to the discussions page on the IIPM site to see my viewpoints regarding this. Regards, Mrinal Mrinal Pandey 12:27, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

The admin's talk page is the best place to deal with this. Failing that you can post at WP:AN/I, however please have all of your evidence ready when you post there, and be sure you have already attempted to resolve this matter directly. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:50, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Administrative conflict of interest in the case of Ganesh, an administrator and an editor on this site

Dear HighBC, thanks for your reply. Though I have all the evidence ready, I've first taken your advice with respect to attempting to resolve this matter directly with the administrator I'm accusing, Ganesh who in the recent past has awarded an editor Deepak Shenoy a barnstar award congratulating him on keeping 'controversial' elements alive on the IIPM page. I'm copying part of my message to him that I've left at the IIPM talk page. This is just for your information. Thanks again for your reply. Regards, Mrinal:

• Thanks Ganesh. The reason I focused on fixing your spelling and grammar, was because I took offence to being told that I was accusing "established editors and administrators". Neither is Deepak any more "established" than a normal Wikipedia dabbler; nor are you, and more so in matters of English; and 'English', mind it, which forms the basis of Wikipedia. As Wikipedia confirms, we're not striving for perfection. Ergo, I do not expect your English to be perfect; and it is not, you make unbelievable subject-object, composition, modifying verb et al errors (and not just once, your statements do have many of those). It proves to me that to become an administator, one needs to be focused on following ethical guidelines of editing, and not necessarily on getting one's English appropriately conjectured. I find a clear conflict of interest in your continuing editing on this page, at the same time holding administrative responsibilities, at the same time awarding another editor for ensuring that he has kept controversial details alive on the page. I do not mind controversial details being discussed by editors. But I object to those being discussed by administrators with extra powers; even if they might not finally use their extra power openly. But you did use your powers indirectly. For information, instead of directing Deepak Shenoy to (file a request to) block the page, you chose yourself to write to Nishkid. And when you did message Nishkid to block the page, you did not message as an editor (which you could have). You deliberately told him you were an administrator (thus confirming your status) and requested him twice to block the page, which he, after a couple of days, did. His response must have been more positive because you are an administrator. Therefore, I put in a formal statement out here to request you to kindly not continue editing on this page or using your administrative capacities on this page. Ganesh, there is a clear and evident conflict of interest in your actions. If you agree, I shall not lodge a formal complaint. If you do wish to continue editing, I shall lodge a formal complaint and also let everybody in the Wikipedia community know such a conflict exists blatantly. I'll await your resonse. Regards, Mrinal Mrinal Pandey 03:15, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Thanks. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:50, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA Comment

• This conversation is in reference to [11] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 04:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

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Hi High, Thanks for your comment. It's the first one I've weighed in on, so I apologize if I acted too soon. I thought maybe comments would help the process along. Though I see the nomination has been accepted now, so hopefully it will sort itself out. Thanks again, ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 23:01, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

No big deal. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 20:01, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

RfA

• This conversation is in reference to [12] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 04:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

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Hi HighInBC. Somehow word got out about my RfA before it was listed. If listed, the date needs to be changed. I have notified Redvers and Samir, but I'm afraid that by the time they get to it, there will be even more editors involved. Since you seem to be online, perhaps you could give advice regarding an appropriate time stamp for the RfA, or better yet, could you take care of that and list the RfA? Thanks. Sincerely, --BostonMA ^talk 08:21, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

It looks like User:Graham87 took care of it. I think your chances are very good. You have not shied from controversy, which is important in an admin, however some people will oppose because you have disagreed with them in the past.

I supported you because of how correctly you disagreed with me in the past. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 16:01, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

re:anchorencode

• This conversation is in reference to [13] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 16:09, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

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Yeah I would have suggested using {{anchorencode:foo}} but it doesnt do all the necissary stuff like the TOC such as remove wikilinks and HTML (which you mentioned earlier). Whenever i encode stuff i have 2 functions: wikiurlencode and wikianchorencode, and just use those every time i refer to a page or anchor. GeorgeMoney (talk) 18:47, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

JelloCube27 and Buyable's tomfoolery

• This conversation is in reference to [14] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 16:10, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

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relax, I am joking with the guy. what the hell is your problem? Buyable 21:53, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Poor choice of jokes. The Wikipedia:No legal threats policy says very clearly our view on legal threats. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 22:09, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, a mutual exchange of friendly jests was obviously a legal threat. Poor choice of jokes indeed. Buyable 22:47, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I can detect sarcasm, that was sarcastic. I knew you were joking. It is still not allowed. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 22:52, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Buyable's not bothering me, we're just foolin'! Thanks for your concern, though-- won't make a giant image again, noted. Jellocube27 00:24, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Why have you temporarily banned Buyable? The reasons provided were "vandalism (including page blanking or addition of random text), spam, deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, personal attacks; and repeated, blatant violations of our neutral point of view policy", however I see none of these as relevant descriptions of his actions. Jellocube27 03:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

This is the edit in question[15]. Misuse of warnings is not something we encourage here. That coupled with previous warnings about disruption seemed to be enough. However I will go back to his page and explain how to ask another admin to review the block. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 04:34, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, that seems a bit more reasonable :) Jellocube27 04:43, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Message on wrong talk page?

Didn't you mean to comment to Hipocrite, rather than THB? http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=User_talk:THB&diff=prev&oldid=96963502 -- SCZenz 17:42, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes I did, thank you for pointing it out. I am a little slow in the morning, I need to go get some caffeine. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 17:44, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Comments from users of a certain behavior.

• This conversation is in reference to [16] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 16:12, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

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Please do not reinsert comments from users that you may think I believe are trolls on my user page. Such taunting is wholy unwelcome. Thank you for your consideration. Hipocrite - «Talk» 18:20, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

In my edit summery I made it clear I thought it was an accident. Sometimes when people post in close proximity to each other one edit cancels out another, but still shows in history.

Also, you do not own your talk page, it is part of the community like anywhere else. The question was out of line, but is questionably trolling, and was a question for another user, not you. I will not re-add it again, but I did nothing wrong in re-adding it before. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 18:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I see you provided diffs to the removed content. Nice, that I what I do when I need to remove content from my userpage. Thanks. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 18:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments

• This conversation is in reference to [17] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:14, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you for your comments. I will leave the warnings on the page. That was just out of anger at admin Zoe at the speed he deleted my articles without allowing me sufficient time. Please tell me how to archive them though. Coming to my actual articles, the two spiritual gurus about whom I was trying to create articles have founded an organisation, have over 20 centers around the world, have thousands of followers and have been printed in Indian Media. They have written books, composed songs and routinely toured/tour (one is late) around the world. I'm just confused how this cannot establish notability? Do they become non-notable if they donot appear in Western media? Admin Zoe was never clear about his reasons and was a bit insensitive with his speed. That just prompted me to use strong words.. I very well know and respect the civility that needs to be maintained and fully honour that... But when I see a misuse of power by an admin , I sure will talk about it. Hope you understand Thank you for your time..Please help me in putting up these articles as they are genuine.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamthere (talk • contribs) 10:30, December 29, 2006

Hi, I will show you how to archive by example on you page in a moment. As for notability, the pertinent policies are WP:BIO, and if the subject of the biography is still alive, WP:LIVING. basically you need to provide non-trivial reliable sources demonstrating the notability of the subject, and verifying the facts presented in the article. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 18:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Article on Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji

• This conversation is in reference to [18] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:14, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

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One is on Ganapathi Sachchidananda...An copy-right non-violated version exists for this article before some copyright material was added by some other wikipedian. Admin Zoe deleted it. I request you to restore it to the copyright-nonviolated version, because this is about a genuine notable person. Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda is a very prominent spiritual leader in India. He has establsihed temples around in the world in India, USA (baton rouge and in Pensylvania), Europe and West Indies.[Swamiji toured around the world atleast 60 times, please see www.dattapetham.com->tours] He has thousands of followers east and west and the state and central governments of india hosted him to give a spiritual music concert. Please visit www.dattapeetham.com for more information. Please kindly undelete the article and revert it back to the copyright-nonviolated version —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamthere (talk • contribs) 10:30, December 29, 2006

I see no Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji article in the deletion history, what was the exact name of the article so I can take a look? HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 18:37, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. The article is actually titled Ganapathi Sachchidananda. Below is the link. http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Ganapathi_Sachchidananda

Please look into this. Thanks.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamthere (talk • contribs) 11:28, December 29, 2006

I will take a look and e-mail you the text in question, sans the copyrighted stuff. Make sure you have your e-mail preferences turned on and an e-mail address entered. Your address is kept secret unless you reply to a message, but people can still contact you via the E-mail this user button on the side. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:32, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again. My e-mail is turned on. will wait for that.--Iamthere 19:39, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Sent, glad you figured out the signature. Happy editing, be bold, and heed advice. Go to the talk page and discuss the matter if you disagree with an editor. Read WP:CSD to see why a page may be instantly deleted without discussion. Any other type of deletion requires a debate where you can present evidence and arguments. Have fun! HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:42, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Article about Ekkirala Krishnamacharya

• This conversation is in reference to [19] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:14, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

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People know Ekkirala Krishnamacharya as Master E.K. I tried to create article using Master E.K. and admin Zoe deleted and protected the page name "Master E.K." I also pasted some copyrighted material just to describe in my own words. But I wasnt given enough time. If you can please unprotect the title word "Master E.K." and "Master ek" and atleast, please let me know if I can create an article titles "Ekkirala Krishnamacharya". This is also a genuine article and the person in context is notable becuase, Ekkirala Krishnamacharya[Late], [Also known as Kulapathi Ekkirala Krishnamacharya or Master E.K.], is a Late spiritual guru who spread newage philosophy in India and also founded the organisation "The World Teacher Trust". This philosophy is closely related to Theosophy. He gained followed through his teachings, a number of books he wrote on Spirituality,Occultism, Homeopathy,etc., the schools he establsihed and the free homeo service done to the people. His followers beleive him to be spritually enlightened. For more information, please see www.worldteachertrust.org/ek_e.htm or type "ekkirala krishnamacharya" or Master E.K. in google. [Master E.K. toured the west over 30 times, mainly in Europe and South america] My intent is not to spam here but I truly believe these are notable persons in India and to a lesser extent in west and its worth having an article on Wikipedia. I hope I have made a genuine case for their inclusion..Please let me know if I'm missing something here...Looking forward for including these articles to the wikipedia.. Thanks, Iamthere —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamthere (talk • contribs) 10:30, December 29, 2006

If you need time to work on an article before it is up to standards you can create a subpage by creating a link from your userspace like this [[User:Iamthere/Ekkirala Krishnamacharya]] which will create a link to a blank page like this User:Iamthere/Ekkirala Krishnamacharya, where you can write the article. Once your article meets policies and guidelines for biographies the I gave you above you can use the Move tab at the top of the page to move it into the article space. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 18:39, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Your Vandalism work

Nice job with all the vandalism bans, along with all the other ones. :) ~ EdBoy^[c] 19:02, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Just looking through recent changes and using those nice new numbers that tell you by how many characters the page changed. Thanks for the encouragement. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:04, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

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