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Administrators' newsletter – August 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2019).
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Guideline and policy news
- Following a request for comment, the page Wikipedia:Office actions has been changed from a policy page to an information page.
- A request for comment (permalink) is in progress regarding the administrator inactivity policy.
Arbitration
- Editors may now use the template {{Ds/aware}} to indicate that they are aware that discretionary sanctions are in force for a topic area, so it is unnecessary to alert them.
Miscellaneous
- Following a research project on masking IP addresses, the Foundation is starting a new project to improve the privacy of IP editors. The result of this project may significantly change administrative and counter-vandalism workflows. The project is in the very early stages of discussions and there is no concrete plan yet. Admins and the broader community are encouraged to leave feedback on the talk page.
- The new page reviewer right is bundled with the admin tool set. Many admins regularly help out at Special:NewPagesFeed, but they may not be aware of improvements, changes, and new tools for the Curation system. Stay up to date by subscribing here to the NPP newsletter that appears every two months, and/or putting the reviewers' talk page on your watchlist.
Since the introduction of temporary user rights, it is becoming more usual to accord the New Page Reviewer right on a probationary period of 3 to 6 months in the first instance. This avoids rights removal for inactivity at a later stage and enables a review of their work before according the right on a permanent basis.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 August. It will be on all wikis from 8 August (calendar).
Problems
- A change in RelatedArticles extension accidentally enabled it for everyone, not just for mobile users. This has been fixed. [1][2]
Meetings
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You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 7 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Today everyone can see IP addresses if someone edits without an account. In the future this could be more hidden. This is to protect unregistered editors so fewer can see their IP address. This would only happen after we make sure the tools for vandal fighting can still be effective. You can read more and comment.
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13:24, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you!
Hello, Creffett,
After deleting a few autobiographies from sandboxes, I went to some editors' talk pages to post about NOT writing autobiographies and found you had already posted notices about it! Your work is much appreciated. Liz Read! Talk! 03:33, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Liz, thanks much, happy to help, and thank you for taking care of my batch of speedy deletion requests! creffett (talk) 12:20, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Page deletion
Hi Creffett, regarding deletion of Page P. C. Thomas (educator) I was in talks with Thjarkur who had placed the tags in, Plese find below the discussion I had with him, after the discussion this page was actually moved from draft to Dr.P.C.Thomas(Educator) in the meanwhile it was deleted. please help
Hi, I have removed the advertisement materials, I did try to retrieve all the citations from google but was not able to find them, If you want I can send all the printed copy of the news publication to your e-mail id if could send them.Thanks in advanceBiggreentreeus (talk) 14:10, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- Biggreentreeus, that's not necessary, if some material only exists in the printed form then you can fill in the citation to mention: Full title, date of publication, author, newspaper, and the page number. If it's in a foreign language you can give the original title and then an English translation of the title. You can then remove the URL. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:28, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi Now the article https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:P._C._Thomas_(educator) is neutral and ready to be verified, please check and let me know if any corrections have to be made. Biggreentreeus (talk) 13:55, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
I had made all the required corrections and has sent him the details after which he sent a message, Done – Thjarkur (talk) 16:04, 8 August 2019 (UTC), I don't understand why this page was deleted, please help Biggreentreeus (talk) 01:59, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Biggreentreeus: first, do not copy discussions from other talk pages - it makes it look like Þjarkur posted things to my talk page when they did not. Link to their talk page if you need to reference a discussion with them. Second, I tagged the page for deletion under speedy deletion criteria A7 - "an article about a real person that does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject." Articles on Wikipedia need to be about someone notable and need to clearly show why that person is notable. Please review WP:NOTABILITY and more specifically WP:NPERSON (the notability rules for people). It wasn't deleted because it was promotional, it was deleted because the subject did not appear notable. If you genuinely think the subject meets the notability standards I linked, you can request undeletion, but I would strongly suggest going through the draft submission process to get useful feedback from other editors. They can advise you better whether your article subject is in fact notable, and articles can't be deleted for lack of notability in draft space. creffett (talk) 14:24, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Sorry for posting the discussion from talk page, I thought it might be helping you to analyze what happened on the page prior to deletion, also regarding Dr.P.C.Thomas page notability he has many notable awards in his name, and one of them is the Lifetime achievement award from Magazine Education world, RAJIV GANDHI MEMORIAL GOLD MEDAL OF MERIT, NATIONAL DHISHANA AWARD and many more like this and also you can see that he is one of the Director of the rotary which is mentioned in the magazine 'The Rotarian' also a book called An event called Life " has been published by notable people of India. So I believe that this covers notability of Wikipedia. Please let me know what else is required to meet the notability criteria. Thanks, Biggreentreeus (talk) 14:59, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Editors using the mobile website on Wikipedia can opt-in to new advanced features via your settings page. This will give access to more interface links, special pages, and tools. Feedback on the discussion page is appreciated. [3]
- Due to the absence of volunteer maintenance of Cologne Blue skin, the link to activate it will be hidden. The skin will still work, but editors using it are encouraged to switch to another skin. [4]
Changes later this week
- Due to Wikimania, there is no deployment this week. [5]
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The "Wikidata item" link will be moved from "Tools" to "In other projects" section on all Wikimedia projects, starting on August 21. Full announcement, Phabricator task.
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18:19, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Deleted page (COI)
Thank you for your information and support regarding how COI affected my contribution and its NPOV. It was naivety and clumsiness rather than any attempt to mislead that prompted the error and I have now added a COI alert to the top of my my personal talk page. I recognise (and indeed am grateful for) Wikipedia's rigorous processes. However, the subject of my page is not undeserving of a Wikipeda page as other vice-chancellors of British universities have them. Therefore, while recognising my own disqualification from supplying one, I wonder if you could provide any clues as to how I could legitimately draw this subject to the attention of the Wikipedia community. UEL Giles (talk) 16:02, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- UEL Giles, without having the (now-deleted) draft in front of me, I can only give general advice:
- You still are allowed to make pages for things you have a conflict of interest for, you just need to be very careful how they're worded, and you should always go through the articles-for-creation process.
- Even though other vice-chancellors may have Wikipedia pages, you need to make sure that the subject you're writing about is notable. I especially recommend reading the general notability and academic notability guidelines as well as the rules on reliable sources. In short, you must be able to demonstrate that the subject meets at least one criteria for notability (I see that the academic notability criteria 6,
...person has held the post of president or chancellor (or vice-chancellor in countries where this is the top academic post)
might apply, I'm not particularly familiar with how British universities work).- Regardless of what criteria you use, you need reliable sources - neutral, third-party, secondary sources talking about the subject (see my previous link on reliable sources for the exact definition). My recommendation is picking your top three sources about the subject, and be ready to point to those if questioned about meeting the notability guideline.
- Be very thoughtful about the words you use. The article shouldn't look like a resume, should be written as neutrally as possible (if you're going to call someone a "noted expert in the field," you'd better have a good source or two that backs that up), and avoid "puffy" language. If the article is short...that's fine! Better a short and to-the-point page than a long page that will get deleted as promotional.
- I know Wikipedia policies can be quite Byzantine for a newcomer, so I'm not holding your COI issues against you. Just be open about your COI when editing and spend some time reading the links above. Good luck, and please feel free to ask here or at the teahouse if you have any more questions. creffett (talk) 01:21, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Tech News
- There will be no Tech News issue next week. The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 2 September 2019.
Problems
- Some abuse filters stopped working because of a code change. Only variables for the current action will work. Variables defined inside a branch may not work outside of that branch. You can read more to see how to fix the filters.
- Only six accounts can be created from one IP address per day. Between 12 August and August 15 this was two accounts per day. This was because of a security issue. It is now six accounts per day again. [6]
Changes later this week
- Only a limited number of accounts can be created from one IP address. An IP address can be whitelisted so that it can create as many accounts as needed. This is useful at events where many new persons learn to edit. IP addresses that are whitelisted for this reason will also not show CAPTCHAs when you create accounts. This will happen on Wednesday. [7]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 August. It will be on all wikis from 22 August (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 21 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- There is an RFC about creating a new global user group with the right to edit abuse filters. This will be used to fix broken filters and make sure all filters will still work when software changes happen. You can read more and comment.
Special:Contributions/newbieswill no longer be working. This is because of performance reasons. It showed edits by new accounts. You can see this in the recent changes feed instead. [8]
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15:20, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Your support for my ban
Hi, you have supported my ban however would we be able to discuss your reasonings and both sides on here so we can see each other’s sides in a civil way thanks. Wiki Facts fixer (talk) 19:59, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
- I have explained my reasoning on the AN/I thread. If you wish to dispute my reasoning further, you may do so at AN/I, but I have nothing to add here. Please do not continue to debate here, I have no interest in getting in the same kind of argument you've engaged in on Jayjg and Jeske Couriano's pages. creffett (talk) 23:12, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Suggestions
Hello Creffett,
Thanks for your feedback. Can you offer any suggestions to make the page I most recently edited more suitable for Wikipedia? Specific items for improvement/addition/deletion would help greatly. The page https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/HashiCorp was used as a guide for what seems appropriate.
Thanks.
Can I Help Me
-- Hello, you recently falsely accused me of being a paid advocater and violating Wikipedia Guidelines. I hold a position within IFMSA but my work is strictly volunteering-based, like all elected Board Members, including the President. I do not get paid anyway (nor any of the Board Members) with having this changed, only the International secretary gets paid and she doesn't interfere in our social media. I am just fulfilling what my job description says, I am responsible for social media and online platforms. I am not paid and won't be. Please accept the changes since it took me 5 hours to cross check the information to have it reliable and most updated possible for consultation by anyone interested. I'd also like to state that I understand your concerns but I am doing this because I care for the Federation I work for, and I work for free. Thank you. - 31st August 2019, 20:18 GMT. - — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoseCX09 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello, dear Revisor creffett! You recently reviewed my activity in IFMSA's page and I have done everything to make it compliant with Wikipedia's Guidelines, for Paid Advocate. Can you approve the changes I have made to the page? It took me 5 hours to do so, and they are accurate, I don't mind disclosing my Conflict as Paid Advocate as I have it in my page.- 9th September 2019, 16:46 GMT. JoseCX09 (talk
Me puedes ayudar en mejorar un articulo??? --Historiadormundo (talk) 21:07, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Historiadormundo: Quizas, cual articulo y que tipo ayuda necesitas? creffett (talk) 22:12, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Muchas Gracias, Mi traducción en este????? --Historiadormundo (talk) 22:15, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Historiadormundo: Es buen comienzo de traducción, voy a hacer algunos cambios porque se necesita arreglar para el manual de estilo. Tambien removeré vínculos que no son en Wikipedia Inglés. Muchas gracias por su trabajo! creffett (talk) 02:51, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Hola creffett muchas gracias por tus correciones y por tu tiempo , un saludo --Historiadormundo (talk) 12:13, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Hola creffett Me puedes ayudar en este artículo por favor, aquí, muchas gracias de antemano --Historiadormundo (talk) 17:49, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi Creffett You undid my edit tell me why? What do you need to rectify it IgboRap (talk) 19:18, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello, dear Revisor creffett! My page about A digital marketing company named Redblink was deleted, though i followed all the guidelines, as per other marketing companies already added on wikipedia, if others exist why cant our company have a page , how can i reinstate, there are many marketing companies which have pages on wikipedia but they are not deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Larsonreever (talk • contribs) 04:43, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Munford COI
Hi, I'm working on Category:British technology journalists. I noticed you had reverted the removal of COI tag from Monty Munford. The page is a bit crap, but doesn't appear to have any COI: few recent edits, and prior promo material has been removed according to page history. What is required to remove the tag? Shhh101 (talk) 23:12, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Shhh101: (posting from alternate account) Hi, thanks for checking in. I reverted because you didn't mention removing the tag in your edit summary, and I see that tactic (make an edit, remove a COI warning as part of the edit, don't mention the removal) used a lot as a sneaky way to remove the template by COI editors. If you think the article no longer needs the template, then you should be good to remove it, just be sure to explain your logic in the edit summary (or post your thoughts on the talk page and then mention as much in your edit summary). You can go ahead and remove the tag, and in this case I recommend saying that you talked to me about it (so that it doesn't look like you're edit-warring with me). Thanks for your work so far, and happy editing! creffpublic a creffett franchise (talk to the boss) 16:56, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, I will be more careful from now. In any case, I think I removed the tag too early. I had a deeper look and it seems there are quite few links that could be improved to be less promotional. I'll go over them in the next few days and once the page is better I'll remove the tag. Feel free to check up on it later. Thanks for the heads up. Shhh101 (talk) 17:41, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Speedy deletion notices
Hello, Creffett,
This is just a reminder that when you tag a page for speedy deletion, you need to leave a notice for the page creator on their user talk page. If you use Twinkle, please set up your preferences so that this happens with each CSD category and then the notice will post automatically. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 22:56, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Liz: Sure, I do use Twinkle so I'll double-check my prefs. Which user did I fail to notify? creffett (talk) 22:58, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
- Also, if editors are working on drafts of articles in their sandboxes, it doesn't qualify for a U5. This category is only for content that is unrelated to editing on Wikipedia, like pages involving someone's fantasy football leagues or episodes of a reality show. Drafts of articles, even poor articles, are not unrelated to work on Wikipedia. Liz Read! Talk! 23:01, 30 August 2019 (UTC)