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April 2008
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Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Zeitgeist, the Movie, but we regretfully cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses novel, unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. Haemo (talk) 04:13, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
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editYour additions have been raised at the WP:BLPN please discuss the issue there, thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 16:23, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
July 2010
edit Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Dalal Mughrabi, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Please do not remove rs supported material, as well as refs, as you have here. Many thanks. Epeefleche (talk) 04:28, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
- Addressed the issue in talk. You can put the claims about her definition as "terrorist" in a separated segment, not in the initial explanation, where it denotes a clear POV. She has also been referred as a "heroine" o a "martyr". We are not going to start placing all the labels that have been placed on her in the introduction just because they are referenced. Let's be sensible.Froy1100 (talk) 17:26, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, the guideline calls for it to be explained as it was (which you deleted). The other option is to use it without explanation. We go with the RSs -- that is the typical description of her in them. BTW, you seem familiar. Have you edited under another name or IP? --Epeefleche (talk) 18:14, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
- Whatever, as long as you define her first as a "Palestinian militant" is fine with me. I have better things to do with my time. In any case, I don't find it entirely appropriate, since all other articles about "terrorists" don't have this kind of introduction, stating that they have been referred as such, even if there are plenty of references about it.Froy1100 (talk) 01:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- But for some possibly POV-driven comments, we could dispense with all the footnotes and just go with the predominant RS usage. Which is terrorist. And then mention that some call her a hero, etc. We can do the same with various such people, including bin Laden. Most terrorists are likely considered heroes by some group, even if non-RS, or fringe.--Epeefleche (talk) 02:47, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Even with Bin Laden, if you read his article, it doesn't mention the word terrorist in the introductory section even once. According to it "Osama bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden is a member of the prominent Saudi bin Laden family and the founding leader of the militant Islamist organization al-Qaeda, best known for the September 11 attacks on the United States and numerous other mass-casualty attacks against civilian targets." Do you think there are no references about him being called a terrorist?? Why does Mughrabi have to be defined as a terrorist in any way in the introductory section if this is clearly not the normal practice in Wikipedia? It just doesn't make sense.Froy1100 (talk) 03:07, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- But for some possibly POV-driven comments, we could dispense with all the footnotes and just go with the predominant RS usage. Which is terrorist. And then mention that some call her a hero, etc. We can do the same with various such people, including bin Laden. Most terrorists are likely considered heroes by some group, even if non-RS, or fringe.--Epeefleche (talk) 02:47, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Whatever, as long as you define her first as a "Palestinian militant" is fine with me. I have better things to do with my time. In any case, I don't find it entirely appropriate, since all other articles about "terrorists" don't have this kind of introduction, stating that they have been referred as such, even if there are plenty of references about it.Froy1100 (talk) 01:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, the guideline calls for it to be explained as it was (which you deleted). The other option is to use it without explanation. We go with the RSs -- that is the typical description of her in them. BTW, you seem familiar. Have you edited under another name or IP? --Epeefleche (talk) 18:14, 19 July 2010 (UTC)