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Reply: Draft, Xavient Information Systems

Saw your note about moving my Xavient Information Systems draft from my sandbox to the drafts page- thanks! However, I've already submitted that article for review. I've been in touch with DatGuy who agreed to adopt me and guide me through the editing/submission process. If you're available as a knowledge resource, I'd like to add you to my list of Wikipedians I can reach out to when I need help editing or working with admin (such as if my article submission for Xavient is denied.) Would you be willing and available to help?

My main concern right now is that I have a COI and am afraid my article will not get published because of that. However, I don't know how to get the article published other than doing it myself, so it's very frustrating. Despite my best attempts, it's been difficult to follow all the procedures, and that's after having spent a month researching proper protocol for article creation, sources, editing, and submission. Again, could you offer guidance?

CommsPro123 (talk) 19:16, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

CommsPro123, sure, I'd be willing to assist with the article. As you can see, I've cleaned it up a bit (before; after) already. I didn't immediately put a review on the article because I felt like I needed to look into the sources more. There are usually two issues that need to be addressed with an article of the type you're writing: sources ("notability") and tone. By sources, I mean that the company you're writing about needs to meet Wikipedia's standards for inclusion. We have one specifically for companies located at WP:NCORP. Looking at the sources on your article right now, it's possible that you need more reliable sources that cover the company in depth (see the WP:CORPDEPTH and WP:AUD sections of that standard). The other issue is tone. "Xavient is a solutions and technology partner for implementation of solutions such as OTT and Internet of Things (IoT), across industry verticals." That sounds a bit like an advertisement, or at least something that the company would put in promotional materials. Wikipedia generally doesn't want articles that sound anything like an advertisement (see WP:NPOV). There's a very helpful page that talks about words and phrases that make your article sound like an advertisement located at WP:WTW. I hope this information is helpful, and feel free to ask me if you have any more questions! APerson (talk!) 02:32, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello-

Thanks again for agreeing to help me with the Xavient article. As I mentioned before, the entry we provided to the Wikipedia admin was rejected, primarily based on "notability." I’ve found several companies (listed below) with Wikipedia entries that are similar in notability to Xavient, and was hoping you could provide some insight why they've made the cut while Xavient hasn't? Any assistance you could provide could be helpful. Thanks.

• Aditi Technologies
• Cybage
• Harbinger Systems
• Absolutdata

CommsPro123 (talk) 16:49, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

CommsPro123, looking through your four articles:

• Aditi Technologies was the subject of a discussion in which it was decided that it met Wikipedia's standards.
• Cybage probably shouldn't be on Wikipedia; although sources do exist (from the brief research I did), I've tagged it as such.
• Harbinger Systems actually was made through the same process (Articles for Creation) that the Xavient article is going through right now (as opposed to the other three articles), even though (to me) it doesn't look that good.
• Absolutdata seems (barely) to meet Wikipedia's standards, due to the sources it has.

I hope this answers your questions about the articles; you can see the advice I left you in my previous comment.

(Note: I've taken the liberty of moving your response up to the first section which we were talking in, as well as formatting that list of yours; I hope you don't mind.) APerson (talk!) 18:34, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for looking those four articles over and for moving my section up- could you let me know how to do that? Think it would expedite communication to have the whole conversation in one place on your talk page.

Regarding edits, I took your advice and made changes. Here's the new draft: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:Xavient_Information_Systems

As for the four articles from earlier, I believe Xavient compares most closely with Aditi Technologies and Absolutdata. Do you agree? If so, could you help us get the Xavient page up on Wikipedia?

CommsPro123 (talk) 21:48, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

CommsPro123, for help with talk page indentation, see WP:THREAD. A brief summary: when replying to a discussion that's already in progress, you should add your reply in the same section (with the section-specific edit link) instead of creating a new section using the button at the top. I'll look over your draft as soon as I can. APerson (talk!) 18:43, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

APerson, wanted to follow-up to see if you'd had a chance to review the changes I made to the Wikipedia draft. Also, looking back at your response from February 5 regarding, I wanted to ask if you think Xavient is comparable in notability to Aditi Technologies, Harbinger Systems and Absolutdata. Thanks for the help so far.

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AfD Stats

I think AfD Stats is down right now. Just so you know... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:22, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for reporting this! Every other tool seems to be up, and I never got the email notification saying it was down. Investigating this right now. APerson (talk!) 04:20, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Looks to be back up! Thanks! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 00:19, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it does seem to be running again. Credit to BryanDavis for fixing it on labs. APerson (talk!) 03:59, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2015 March newsletter

One of Adam Cuerden’s several quality restorations during round 1

That's it, the first round is done, sign-ups are closed and we're into round 2. Forty-seven competitors move into this round (a bit shy of the expected 64), and we are roughly broken into eight groups of six. The top two of each group will go through to round 3, and then the top scoring 16 "wildcards" across all groups.

Twenty-two Good Articles were submitted, including three by Cyclonebiskit (submissions), and two each by MPJ-DK (submissions), Hurricanehink (submissions), 12george1 (submissions), and Cas Liber (submissions). Twenty-one Featured Pictures were claimed, including 17 by Adam Cuerden (submissions) (the Round 1 high scorer). Thirty-one contestants saw their DYKs appear on the main page, with a commanding lead (28) by Cwmhiraeth (submissions). Twenty-nine participants conducted GA reviews with J Milburn (submissions) completing nine.

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Is your Autowiki test broken?

There are no questions, and it just says the "I loaded 163 questions" and "After the test" things but no questions. Thanks, Kernosky ^talk2me! 19:45, 13 March 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kernosky (talk • contribs)

Fixed. There were a number of edits messing up how the tool parsed the "Interpreting your score" section, and I've fixed the format now. APerson (talk!) 17:26, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

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DYK for José Antonio Gallardo

Hello AP, from Portugal,

quite humbled by the messaged you sent me, although I have to say the note on the nomination is not quite correct, User:The Almightey Drill created it solely, I only added to/arranged it.

Attentively, happy editing --Be Quiet AL (talk) 01:47, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Be Quiet AL, thanks for your appreciation of the message. When the bot checks who to notify, it just looks at the "credits" line on the page, which says it was "[c]reated by The Almightey Drill (talk) and Be Quiet AL (talk)": it doesn't distinguish between different levels of creation. (It'd be pretty hard to get a system of "levels of creation" working.) APerson (talk!) 01:58, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Template:Graph:Timeline

Hello,
Back in January you declined this draft, since when it seems to have been dormant. However, today, it has been re-submitted by an IP editor without making any changes. This IP is well known to members of the F1 project as disruptive and is constantly submitting drafts which are non-notable, unreadable or copy-vios or a combination of the three. When his work is rejected he merely re-submits without making any changes till someone gets tired of him and deletes it. Recently he has begun re-submitting rejected drafts by other editors. I was wondering if this is acceptable? Or whether it would be OK in these circs to revert the submission. Thanks. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 00:04, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

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AfD

Hi Enterprisey: A recent edit you performed at AfD has been reverted. You may want to check it out. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:45, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the nasty surprise to start my Wikipedia session. APerson (talk!) 13:02, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

You bet. Good morning sunshine? Cheers! North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:09, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

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Your comment on my changes to the article on Shabu-shabu

Hello, you sent me the following message: "Hello. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Shabu-shabu has been undone because it did not appear constructive."

As I only corrected the punctuation, which was clearly needed, and which still stands, I'm not sure what you're talking about?

The sentence "Both are Japanese dish's" was changed to "Both are Japanese dishes."

Diff 1 Diff 2 KatieBuffalo2016 (talk) 13:43, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

KatieBuffalo2016, sorry about that; I associated your edits with the other user (1.144.96.5) who was making edits 3 days before you. The other user was making unconstructive changes, and I dropped a warning on your page by accident while I was warning the other user. APerson (talk!) 00:36, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

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DYK for International Bus Roadeo

On 10 April 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article International Bus Roadeo, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that International Bus Roadeo competitors must stop their buses within six inches of a traffic cone? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/International Bus Roadeo. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Curious about something with AfD stats

I'm a bit curious why the AfD stats page considers a vote for delete to be a non-matching result compared to the outcome of userfy. When a non-notable article is nominated, it's somewhat common to userfy/draftify it if the creator isn't an SPA and thinks it will be notable in the future. In this scenario, I would consider a vote to delete to be "correct" (i.e. correct application of WP:N), even if the result winds up being userfy. I never noticed this before. It seems like delete/userfy is similar to merge/redirect (and possibly more similar than delete/speedy delete). ~ Rob^Talk 23:16, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Rob, that's an interesting point. I always thought about it in the sense that a "delete" vote says "this content isn't worthy of being viewable on Wikipedia", whereas a "userfy/draftify/etc" vote says "this content can be improved in userspace or draftspace". I definitely see your point, though, that common practice means that delete and userfy votes should agree. WT:AFD would be the right place to solicit others' comments on this, right? APerson (talk!) 23:50, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

It probably would, yes, or maybe even WT:RFA. AfD stats are only really useful there. I kind of assumed a discussion had occurred in the past and I just wasn't aware of it, but if this is a new idea, maybe a discussion is warranted. I'll leave it to you to pursue if you're interested. I only came here from the RFA, and I don't participate in AFDs outside of my narrow subject-area interests. Even that's infrequent. ~ Rob^Talk 23:53, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Cool. Discussion at WT:AFD#AfD Stats vote counting. I tend to think that some navel-gazing users check their own AfD stats, which also contributes to tool use, but I agree that RfA accounts for the overwhelming majority of uses. APerson (talk!) 00:04, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

I use the tool when my watchlist gets overwhelming (especially when I'm not active for a few days) to see how discussions I've participated in are going. I'm sure that's not outside the norm. ~ Rob^Talk 00:38, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

I hadn't thought about that. I agree that there are loads of possible use cases for the tool. APerson (talk!) 00:44, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Foo

Bar (per request on IRC) —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 23:23, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

test

As requested. Ajraddatz (talk) 23:23, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

(barnstar moved to user space)

Thank you, Odysseus1479! APerson (talk!) 16:18, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

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KCB Gro‎up Limited

Hello User:APerson,

User:70.124.133.228 has been trolling me for the past 6 months. Today, while I was actively editing the KCB Gro‎up Limited article, he barged in and started erasing my edits, with the {{inuse}} tag clearly displayed. I have chosen not to participate in the edit war that he as declared. Please assist me to resolve this so that I can continue to edit in peace. Thanks. Fsmatovu (talk) 22:06, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Fsmatovu, I don't think I'm the right person to help you with that (for one thing, I have no knowledge about the topic of that article). It doesn't look like either of you have edited the talk page of that article, which WP:DR says is needed before any of the more formal methods of dispute resolution have been tried. I guess a talk page discussion would be the right place to start; I'll add the talk page to my watchlist. I'm curious; how did you determine that I was the user you wanted to talk to for this dispute? APerson (talk!) 01:37, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

APerson, At the time I wrote, I wanted to communicate with any Administrator. There is an administrator who gave me privileges as an auto-patrolled editor. When I arrived at his/her talk page, I saw a message from you, saying he/she was not showing activity. So I contacted you. Well, since you are watching, I will resume editing that page later today. Thank you Fsmatovu (talk) 14:36, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

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This IP must be you

My supernatural super-par observational skills tell me that it's you. Do you want to talk somewhere about your RfA (this talk page?) ? --QEDK (T ☕ C) 15:37, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I had it revdel'd out of your talk page. We can talk over there. Unfortunately, I can't read 3-point font, otherwise I would have noticed that I wasn't logged in; I guess browsing Wikipedia in desktop mode on my phone isn't for me. APerson (talk!) 15:57, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

I'll email you about this thing by probably next week (lots of stuff to do :/) --QEDK (T ☕ C) 17:14, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Cool, thanks! APerson (talk!) 17:20, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Indiana Robotics Invitational

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 Already done APerson (talk!) 17:18, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

WikiCup 2016 May newsletter

FP of Christ Church Cathedral, Falkland Islands by Godot13

Round 2 is over and 35 competitors have moved on to Round 3.

Round 2 saw three FAs (two by Cas Liber (submissions) and one by Montanabw (submissions)), four Featured Lists (with three by Calvin999 (submissions)), and 53 Good Articles (six by Worm That Turned (submissions) and five each by Hurricanehink (submissions), Cwmhiraeth (submissions), and MPJ-DK (submissions)). Eleven Featured Pictures were promoted (six by Adam Cuerden (submissions) and five by Godot13 (submissions)). One Featured Portal, Featured Topic and Good Topic were also promoted. The DYK base point total was 1,135. Cwmhiraeth (submissions) scored 265 base points, while The C of E (submissions) and MPJ-DK (submissions) each scored 150 base points. Eleven ITN were promoted and 131 Good Article Reviews were conducted with MPJ-DK (submissions) completing a staggering 61 reviews. Two contestants, Cwmhiraeth (submissions) and Cas Liber (submissions), broke the 700 point mark for Round 2.

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 Done APerson (talk!) 05:07, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

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CAT:AFD/U

Hi Person.

Thank you for all the time saving scripts you make available.

I noticed that CAT:AFD/U is quite populated this morning. Do we have a script for adding cats to uncategorized AfD pages? If not, could you make one? Thanks again, Sam Sailor ^Talk! 08:20, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Sam Sailor, I believe that User:APerson/delsort is the script you're looking for. APerson (talk!) 12:54, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Delsort is a wonderful script, the December update made it even better. But unless I am mistaken it does not do categorization, "only" WP:DELSORT. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 13:04, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Sam Sailor, just an update: I've gotten it to work (example), but there's a nasty bug where the script thinks that the edit hasn't happened yet when it actually has. As soon as I fix it, I'll publish the new code. APerson (talk!) 21:53, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the link to Test Wiki. I think it is easy for us who understand little or no code to remain oblivious to how much work you coders put into the making of such scripts and gadgets. Thank you. AFCH beta btw works like a charm, and it's great to now have a script that does category requests at AFC/R as well. Best, Sam Sailor ^Talk! 13:16, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Sam Sailor,  Done. It turns out I had a silly typo somewhere. Anyway, I've tested it on both enwiki and testwiki and the new feature should be working now. Please let me know if you have any feedback! APerson (talk!) 19:18, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Just Orz...^Ref ... Cat is empty, but I tested it on one debate, and it worked perfect. If you have a "Beerware" link somewhere, pls let me know, you truly deserve a cold one. Or a crate for that matter. Many thanks! Sam Sailor ^Talk! 19:35, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

A follow-up to say that so far it seems to work flawlessly. I had a case where, for reason unbeknownst to an ignorant like I, there was a delay with writing to the deletion lists. The bolded title would subtly scroll a bit from side to side move towards left while three dots were appended, something I never noticed before. I suppose that's something you code deliberately. That's a clever touch, I think. My brain will automatically assume "ok, it's still working, hands off the F5 or the alt-F4". Sam Sailor ^Talk! 12:19, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

When I delsorted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MiloShare that was listed under as "AfD debates (Not yet sorted)" I noticed that in AFCD the radio button "Fiction and the arts" was active. I changed it to "Web or Internet" and went on to cast my !vote. Upon saving I noticed that the debate was still in "AfD debates (Not yet sorted)". And here is why: Diff of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MiloShare. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 11:47, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

I recently noticed that, too. I'll have to fix it up to delete everything between the | and the }}, and then write the letter. APerson (talk!) 12:27, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

 Fixed. APerson (talk!) 19:36, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

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Deletion sorting

A few weeks back, I added your DelSort.js script to my Common.js page. Everything worked fine. But when I got back from vacation today, I noticed that it no longer appears under the More tab when I'm at an AfD page. I see from your talk page that you recently made some modifications to the script, so perhaps that had something to do with the disappearance. Is there something I can do to get it back?

Thank you for any assistance that you can provide. NewYorkActuary (talk) 02:15, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

NewYorkActuary, can you give me a title of a page that you visit where you expect to see the delsort link, but actually don't? (At the moment, it's working fine for me.) APerson (talk!) 02:19, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. The link failed to appear on several pages that I looked at before posting here. I just went back to WP:Articles for deletion/Naafia and found that it still doesn't appear there. NewYorkActuary (talk) 02:24, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

NewYorkActuary, looks like it appears for me. What browser are you using, and (I apologize if this sounds like a basic step, but for sure it's tripped me up quite a few times) have you tried purging your cache? APerson (talk!) 02:27, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I did think to purge the cache but, what the heck, I did it again. Still no change. So, I shut off the computer and went out for a smoke. Came back, turned the computer back on and logged in again -- still no change. I'm using Internet Explorer 10 (which is the same browser I was using before I went out on vacation).

I'll be logging off until tomorrow, so there's need for urgency here. Thanks again for your help. NewYorkActuary (talk) 03:04, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

I meant to type "there's no need for urgency here". Sorry about that. NewYorkActuary (talk) 02:55, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

NewYorkActuary, no problem. I've asked another user who has IE installed to test it, and they're doing so right now.

At the moment, I suspect I accidentally used some JavaScript feature that wasn't included in IE10, so I'll check for that. Would it be possible for you to open the debug console (by pressing F12) before you load the AfD page, and then paste here any output that appears to be from the script? Thanks! APerson (talk!) 03:00, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Here it is: <html class="client-js ve-not-available" lang="en" dir="ltr">. The "ve-not-available" did not appear until I went to the AfD page. Also, there was a "plus" sign next to the line, for which clicking gave a whole lot of additional code. I'll be happy to copy-and-paste that code here, if that will be helpful. NewYorkActuary (talk) 03:12, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

I've done some ambling through various articles, and I've noted that the "ve-not-available" message doesn't always show up on an AfD page. I also thought to click the "console" tab on the F12 page, and got this:

Use of "importScriptURI" is deprecated. Use mw.loader instead.

SCRIPT1014: Invalid character

index.php, line 117 character 40

SEC7115: :visited and :link styles can only differ by color. Some styles were not applied to :visited.

Naafia

Maybe that will be of some help. I'm logging off now and will check back tomorrow. Thanks again. NewYorkActuary (talk) 04:03, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

I've discovered the problem; IE10 doesn't support a feature I use to make the code more readable (for the curious, template literals). Unfortunately, I will have to make my code less readable in service of IE10. Gonna make the change soon. APerson (talk!) 03:14, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

NewYorkActuary,  Fixed. APerson (talk!) 03:49, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

It's working fine now. For what's it's worth, when I went to do a session of del-sorting, I noticed an unexpectedly large backlog of unsorted articles. I suppose there could be any number of reasons for that, but I suspect that I might not have been the only editor who found that their script wasn't working. Thanks again for your efforts. NewYorkActuary (talk) 16:55, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

No problem. APerson (talk!) 16:57, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

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RM Stats

APerson, definitely a promising start! A couple of issues so far:

1. When I search my name, and leave the 'Number of pages to look at' at 50, it seems to successfully find the discussions over the last month (April 2016), but the only other returned results are for April 2015 (i.e. there are no results for May 2015 – March 2016).
2. When I search my name, and change the 'Number of pages to look at' to 100, I get an Error message: "Error! Unable to calculate statistics. need more than 1 value to unpack You may have misspelled that username."

If you can get this to work, even without the 'results matrix' (which can always be added-on later!), it will I think be immensely helpful to people who vote a lot a WP:RM. Keep up the good work!! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 02:50, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

• Meanwhile, searching for Armbrust only returns 4 results (3 of which seems to be his closes, rather than !votes), and I've got to think he's participated in more/closed than 4 RM's over the last year... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 02:53, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

  Thanks for noticing these! I'll definitely look into them. APerson (talk!) 03:09, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

  IJBall, I've fixed those problems. Please let me know if you find any more while using the tool, and thanks again for finding them! APerson (talk!) 02:40, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

OK, newest issue is that I now can't get it to load after attempting a search – I tried yesterday, and again today, and it never comes back with a result. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 05:56, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

This is super mysterious, because the identical code works on my computer. Gonna investigate this a bit more. APerson (talk!) 13:04, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

I, uh, restarted a bunch of stuff and it seems to be working now. I'm going to closely monitor it for the next day or so to see what's causing it to go down. APerson (talk!) 16:19, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Good news: It seems to be working again! Bad news: When I search myself, I am still only getting results for April 2015 and April 2016. (Also, still only getting 5 returns on Armburst, and zero returns on SwisterTwister, so there's no way that's right!!) However, changing the 'Number of pages to look at' from 50 to 100 seems to cause no problems now, so that's good! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:18, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

IJBall, I think there were some problems on Labs; try it now. In my opinion, it's ready to be added to the templates that show up at the top of PERM requests, but I'm looking forward to knowing whether it's working for you. APerson (talk!) 00:41, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

So, now your RM Stats is only finding one of my RM discussions. I dunno if this will help, but this looks like all of the RM comments I've ever made (though it looks like it doesn't necessarily include all the RM's I've just started....), if that helps at all. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:42, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, Your bot recently edited Talk:Wookey Hole Caves "merging redundant talk page banners into the article history template" however the process seem to have gone wrong in some way (I don't know why). It has left some code showing (about DYK & GAN entries) and JL-Bot no longer recognises the GA status. Any ideas?— Rod ^talk 07:00, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

I looked at the edit a bit and know exactly what went wrong; I'll have a fix out real soon. APerson (talk!) 14:13, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Rodw, seems fixed to me. Thanks for letting me know about this! APerson (talk!) 20:28, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks - appearance is definitely fixed. I will see if JL-bot relists it as a GA.— Rod ^talk 06:56, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

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 Done; sorry about that. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 15:32, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Account rename

Hi Enterprisey, welcome to your new name. I highly suggest you use this account to recreate your old account name (use Special:CreateAccount while logged in); this will prevent someone else from creating the account. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:01, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

That form seems to have prevented me from creating that account - it claims "APerson" is too similar to a number of existing usernames. I guess that'll prevent someone else from creating the account, too. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 15:32, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

I created it for you, and will send you the password via email - to avoid this somehow getting created on another wiki via SUL and causing you a headache. Let me know if you don't get the email. — xaosflux ^Talk 18:22, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

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Notability for Draft: Xavient Information Systems

Hello,

Hope you're well. A few months ago, you gave input on the page Draft: Xavient Information Systems and I wanted to check in on the progress of the page, as there are several new pieces of news content on the company from accredited, unbiased third parties, as well as the company's recent listing as a finalist in several categories for the 11th Annual IT World awards, which I believe constitute its notability.

Three Pieces of News

Xavient was recently featured in the Fairfax Times article "Securing the future" (Link here: [1]) as well as in a San Fernando Valley Business (SFVB) Journal article, which is available in PDF format. (The SFVB Journal is owned by California Business Journals, along with the Los Angeles Business Journal, Orange County Business Journal and San Diego Business Journal.) The company is expecting a piece in the Pacific Coast Business Times later this month, as well.

IT World Awards

Additionally, Xavient was awarded as a finalist in three categories for the 11th Annual 2016 IT World Awards, winning Gold for Best IT Company of the Year (Services), Silver for IT Project of the Year, and Bronze for Deployments and Case Studies. (Link here: [2])

Do these constitute notability for Xavient? If not, what additional materials or sources from third party groups are required?

CommsPro123 (talk) 12:53, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

(Gonna bring in SwisterTwister for this.) The new sources are looking pretty good, although regarding the news articles you mentioned, it's uncertain whether the topic would pass WP:AUD afterwards. I'll have to look into the awards, though. Thanks for letting me know! APerson (talk!) 02:23, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

APerson Thanks for looking into the sources and WP:AUD, as well as the awards. I think there's a way to upload PDFs to Wikipedia, but I'm still working on figuring that out. I'd like to show you the SFV Business Journal article but the link is behind a subscription paywall. SwisterTwister- looking forward to hearing your insights and thoughts as well. Thanks, both, for all your efforts! CommsPro123 (talk) 18:47, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Enterprisey. Wanted to check in to see if the three articles passed WP:AUD. Also, any news on the awards? SwisterTwister, any comments on your end? Know you're both super busy but wanted to check in on when I could anticipate hearing back on the articles and awards and notability for the page, as well as the likelihood of it being accepted if I resubmit. We've all been working hard on this, so it would be great to make more progress. Thanks again. CommsPro123 (talk) 13:35, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

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Your watchlist script

Hi, I've just come across your watchlist script User:Enterprisey/watchlist-notice.js, and I like how it functions. I have a feature request, though. If you have time/want to, could you make the script periodically recheck for changes every minute or so even if the page isn't reloaded? This could be done with a setTimeout() call. I'm pretty sure you could change the end of the updateNotice() function to read

    $( "#watchlist-update-notice" ).remove();
    setTimeout(updateNotice, 60000);

and it would recheck every minute. I leave my watchlist up constantly without refreshing it and would like to be notified without having to refresh the page. Thanks!--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 09:06, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

 Done. Great idea! Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 18:06, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Substituting MTR infoboxes

Hi Enterprisey, I noticed that you were replacing Template:Infobox MTR station in a few articles. I've converted it (at Template:Infobox MTR station/sandbox) so that it can be substituted as {{subst:Infobox MTR station/sandbox…}} to be replaced more easily. (I've also modified Template:Infobox MTR so that it can be substituted.) However, the substitution of Infobox MTR station does leave a couple of omissions or other problems (marked by comments containing "Remove this comment after checking"), which shouldn't be too difficult to fix (example: Tuen Mun Station). Happy editing, Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 09:16, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

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Something from python

Hi! I see, that you're in category User python-4 :) Could I ask some things to you?

• There is such list of entries in one big encyclopedia (with several pages for each(?) letter). Each entry has code

  <a href="#" type="el" id="1">Adamss (Adams) Braiens</a>
  <br />

Could you scrape pages with python and give me the list of all entries? Of course, it doesn't have to be python :) But if it works in Windows, then maybe you can later give me the script for later use? I would like to have such lists also for other encyclopedias, but don't want to bother you everytime. If this conversation goes in good direction, there are some things in my wishlist for such script (extract some more information from webpages, get lenght of entry etc.). Some simple list <a href="#" type="el" id="1">Adamss (Adams) Braiens</a> (without <br>...</br>) will be completely fine, I can later format it based on my needs.

• Could you read template's wikitext and store it to text file? That is, for Template:Country data United States desired output would be something like

Template:Country data United States <tab> | alias = United States <tab> | flag alias = Flag of the United States.svg <tab> | flag alias-1776 = Grand Union Flag.svg ...

I probably could use AWB module, but the whole point is to read all parameters and in this case (Country data X template series) they are all different. I want to create Lua module for country data templates series at my home-wiki and getting all data from enwiki would be nice :) The whole list is here, but if it's too much asked, I could try and select really needed templates. Again, also sharing with script would be nice. I have some things more in my Python to-do-list, but this would be wonderful start. If you're willing to do anything from this, I could then send details, where to put it. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 19:35, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Edgars2007, yep, it's possible, and here's the script for the first one:

import re
import requests

response = requests.get("http://letonika.lv/groups/entryList.aspx?r=1&c=A")

if response.status_code == 200:
    names = [match.group(1)
             for match
             in re.finditer(r'<a.+?type="el".+?>(.+)</a>', response.content)]
else:
    print("Error getting page (status: {})".format(response.status_code))

For the second one, it's a very straightforward use case of one of the Python libraries. mw:Pywikibot is a very popular library, but you can find a full list at mw:API:Client code#Python. This script uses Pywikibot:

import pywikibot

site = pywikibot.Site("en", "wikipedia")
page = pywikibot.Page(site, "Template:Country data United States")
with open("wikitext.txt", "w") as wikitext_file:
    wikitext_file.write(page.text.encode("utf-8"))

Hope this helps! APerson (talk!) 02:44, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

OK, thanks for now. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 17:17, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

My next silly question. So for example I run such command: pwb.py category.py move -from:"foo" -to:"bar". It involves editing a lot of pages, that I get only part of generated output on screen. Is there some easy way of writing all output to a file? --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 21:11, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Edgars2007, what operating system are you using? APerson (talk!) 21:19, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Win 7. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 21:21, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

I found a helpful Stack Overflow question; essentially, after the command, you put a ">" and then the file name that you want to send the output to. APerson (talk!) 21:22, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Hmm, for me it just creates the file and that's all. Tried twice. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 21:37, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Maybe it's sending output to the err stream. Have you tried using 2> in addition to just >? APerson (talk!) 21:40, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

It generates file with list of errors. First line in file is <Unicode redirected stderr>.write: TypeError('write() argument must be str, not bytes',). --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 21:53, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure what sort of output that the script usually generates, but I'm pretty sure you can use the logging arguments to make Pywikibot use a log file, if logging output is what you want. APerson (talk!) 22:00, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Logging params looks promising. Anyway, now at least I know, at which direction to look (with >), which is also good. Thanks! --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 22:19, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Can I ask a stupid question? So I have such API request

r = pywikibot.data.api.Request(site=site, action='query', prop='langlinks',
                                lllang='en', titles='Martins Dukurs').submit()

which returns

{'query': {'pages': {'103566': {'langlinks': [{'*': 'Martins Dukurs', 'lang': 'e
n'}], 'pageid': 103566, 'title': 'Martins Dukurs', 'ns': 0}}, 'userinfo': {'name
': 'EdgarsBot', 'id': 50781}}}

How to get that "Martins Dukurs" from 'title': 'Martins Dukurs'? Accesing it with

r['query']['pages']['langlinks']

gives me "KeyError: 'langlinks'" (yes, I know, that it shouldn't work :D ).

And second question. Are such API queries OK, so that nobody kicks my ass? I want to loop through some categories and getting these titles for each page. Or I generally don't have to worry about "reaching limit" for using API queries? --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 18:34, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Edgars2007, should be something like

r['query']['pages'][r['query']['pages'].keys()[0]]['title']

for the first question, and for the second question, for information on excessive API queries see mw:API:Etiquette. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 03:56, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Sandboxes for site MW:.js/.css pages

Hi Enterprisey, would it be useful to create sandboxes such as: MediaWiki talk:Gadget-popups.js/sandbox for the more popular .js and .css pages? This would allow for centralized sandboxing. I'd like to use a consistent naming scheme (also for testcases) and think using the MediaWiki_talk: namespace is better than MediaWiki: - any thoughts? We could bring this to one of the pumps before mass-creating. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:26, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Hmm. I like that idea because it lets two users work on a patch at the same time, and it cuts down on clutter in the userspaces of patch authors. It would be useful as a staging or beta page as well. Yeah, I think it's a great idea, although since only a few pages in the interface namespace are prone to getting a lot of edit requests, we could only create the sandboxes as needed. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 15:33, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Do you have a list of ones you'd like to see? Surely pages like MediaWiki:common.css could benefit? It takes an administrator to alter the content model, but it is easy and I don't mind doing a batch. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:38, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

One thing we could do is scan for interface talk pages with multiple edit requests on them, then create sandboxes for those. I'm on my phone right now, but I could get on AWB and make a list later today. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 15:41, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Sure, send me a ping. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:44, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Small delsort issue

Hi Person. Have a look at Diff of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fritz Amling. Thanks, Sam Sailor ^Talk! 09:06, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Turns out I fixed this, then un-fixed it. I've reverted the code to when I had it fixed, but the problem there is that there are now Internet Explorer compatibility issues, which I'll fix later today. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 14:19, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Alright, it's been fixed for Internet Explorer as well. See this edit. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 14:41, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

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Need help merging a talk page archive

It looks like ClueBot went a little funny in the head and made User talk:Enterprisey/Archives/ 1. It would be great if that page were merged into User talk:Enterprisey/Archive 5. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 23:59, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Done. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 15:01, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Ah, the problem was that the format of the archive template needed to be updated to accommodate your rename; since APerson isn't your username any more, Cluebot was rejecting your preferred archive formatting and using the default. Should be fixed now, I think. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 17:22, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

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Delsort formatting suggestion

I don't think there's a reason that Delsort notices need to be commingled with discussions. These messages can sometimes be distracting. Could we do something like this:

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. ~Kvng (talk) 20:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. ~Kvng (talk) 20:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Somalia-related deletion discussions. ~Kvng (talk) 20:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. ~Kvng (talk) 20:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

• Keep ~Kvng (talk) 20:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
• Delete ~Kvng (talk) 20:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
• Keep ~Kvng (talk) 20:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
• Delete ~Kvng (talk) 20:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
• Keep ~Kvng (talk) 20:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Kvng, that's a great idea. I'd even suggest going a step further and putting delsort notices in a collapsed-by-default box at the bottom below all the discussion, wrapped in a noinclude. We should probably take it to WT:AFD, though. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 02:16, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Can you mock up your suggested improvement? I'm not a formatting expert. Can you have something render at the bottom if the source code for it is in the middle? ~Kvng (talk) 04:57, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

What a wonderful idea, Kvng. I would likely prefer your initial suggestion of a <div class="infobox" style="width:50%"><ul class="listify">Delsort notices</div> placed beneath the equivalent box for {{Special:Prefixindex/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PageName}} where present. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 11:30, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Might I suggest, considering the notes are being grouped together, that some of the wording be removed to a heading, so as to shorten the rest? If the box were to start with something like “This debate has been included in these lists of deletion discussions:”, most of the repeated verbiage in the delsort entries could be eliminated.—Odysseus1479 20:34, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Wow, I have talk page stalkers! I've mocked the proposed changes by Odysseus1479 up in my sandbox. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 20:49, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Looks even better with the reduced verbiage suggested by Odysseus1479. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 09:51, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

I like that too. I have added to the sandbox to show how this interacts with the other uses of this sort of formatting. Seems to be OK. ~Kvng (talk) 13:59, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

See discussion at WT:AFD#Reformatting delsort notices. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 04:30, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Delsort not working

Hi Enterprisey! I tried to copy the code you have left on the Delsort page, however when i copy the code, it says there is an error. Can you help? Thanks! Class455fan1 (talk) 20:45, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Where are you putting the code? It should be going to User:Class455fan1/common.js. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 20:48, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

I tried that, and doesn't work. The error says "Warning: Label 'subst' on iusc statement." Yes, I am inserting the code into common.js. If i try the "ImportScript" command, will that help?Class455fan1 (talk) 20:58, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Tried again, and the "ImportScript" command does help! The code on the main page could include that. Class455fan1 (talk) 21:42, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Sure! I'll add it. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 04:31, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

SR West Country and Battle of Britain classes

What was the idea behind this edit? It's not "an article about a battle", it's an article about a class of 110 steam locomotives, 44 of which were given names with some connection to the Battle of Britain - organisations, people, aerodromes, squadrons, aircraft types (full list). --Redrose64 (talk) 09:57, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

The bot looks for articles whose titles are of the form "Battle of X", but apparently I forgot to include the additional requirement that the title *start* with "Battle of". I'll fix this before the next task, and I'll try and see if I can fix a few more of these with AWB. Thanks for pointing that out! Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 14:04, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

The coding work you've done is awesome

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• (talk page stalker) I've praised you before, Enterprisey, but there's no reason not to repeat oneself and add a "hear, hear" to Chris troutman. The time you put into coding saves a lot of time for so many editors. Thank you. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 11:46, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Chris troutman and Sam Sailor! Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 17:33, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Battle sort keys

Hello, re this and similar edits. Can your bot by improved to disregard "the"? Thanks, Renata (talk) 02:38, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

 Done - thanks for the feedback! Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 02:51, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

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AFDSTATS suggestion

Hi, I am a fan of the wp:AFDSTATS tool (i understand it was developed by User:Scottywong and maintained by you and User:Σ), however I have a potentially easy-to-implement suggestion about ordering the outcomes for visual clarity about an editor's conformance with prevailing views. Ordering the matrix rows and columns as SK, K, M, U, NC, T, R, D, SD, instead of the current random-like order, would make perfectly conforming performance appear on the diagonal, and it will be visually more clear when a voter's tallies are far off (off-diagonal). Merge is closer to Keep because it agrees there is some material worth keeping somewhere, and similarly for Userfy/Draftify. No consensus is properly in the middle. Redirect is closer to Delete as it asserts there's nothing worth merging. T for Transwiki is rare but is useful to keep as an option to remind us of the possibility, but I put it to the right of middle because it conveys the material is inappropriate for wikipedia, unlike M and U.

Reordering display from SK to SD that way would be a good improvement on its own. A further possibility is to treat the intermediate outcomes as intermediate in the percentage scoring, too. You should get zero credit on a 0-1 scale (or -1 credit on a -1 to 1 scale), for your voting SK or K when the outcome is D or SD. But I vote Keep most often and consider NC to be a win, because the article is kept. And I consider Merge to be a semi-win, or at least not as bad as R or D outcomes. While currently M and R are treated the same, equivalent to Delete, if you have voted Keep, both counting as 0 (or -1 on -1 to 1 scale). And, oddly, M and R are treated differently if you have voted Delete, counting as 0 and 1 (or -1 and 1 on -1 to 1 scale), respectively. I don't think the asymmetric treatment is justified: either M is closer to K or is closer to D, it can't be at the opposite end of the spectrum from both of them.

How about assigning values 1, 1, 1/2, 0, 0, 0, -1/2, -1, -1 for the locations SK, K, M, U, NC, T, R, D, SD (or use similar intervals on 0 to 1 scale), and then rate a person's conformance by the correlation coefficient of their votes vs. the outcomes. And you could still report the numbers of AFDs where a person's votes matched closely (were within 1/2), where their votes were not far off (were 1 away), and where their votes were far off (were 1-1/2 to 2 away).

Perhaps you've thought about and discarded this already. But I think at least the visual rearrangement, which I project might be easy to program, would be valuable. Cheers, --doncram 04:52, 29 June 2016 (UTC) P.S. The performance measures, really conformance measures, are regularly cited in Requests For Adminship, and hence seem to matter.

Thanks for the proposal! I'll have much more time to look at this tomorrow, but it looks very good. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 04:56, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Okay, great. Hey, I know that complicating an idea is a good way to undermine its acceptance, so I hope you can keep your first impression that the above proposal is pretty good, while entertaining any alternative. In fact the assignment of values proposed

 SK, K,   M, U, NC, T,    R,  D, SD
  1, 1, 1/2, 0,  0, 0, -1/2, -1, -1

has big advantage of keeping it simple to understand (KISS), one aspect being that it doesn't make too many distinctions (it groupifies three groups), and distances are limited to 0, 1/2, 1, 1-1/2, 2. It also treats NC as neutral, equidistant from K and from D, which is probably simplest to understand. It treats M and R as "not far" off from each other, but M as "far off" from D, and R as "far off" from K, which are all good. And this is probably best as the main presentation.

Don't mind this further suggestion too much. However perhaps an alternate correlation coefficient (call the original CC-1 and call this alternative CC-2) that reflected a slightly refined perspective could also be calculated, though. My personal perspective is that an NC should be scored as a bit of a win for a K voter (because the article is kept) and that NC should be scored as a loss for the Deletion nominator, a D voter, to penalize them for making a nomination that cost the community's attention but achieved no consensus for change, at least in the CC-2 calculation. Assigning value for NC a bit to the left of 0, naming it as non-neutral, would help out K voters relative to D voters in CC-2 calculation. Accommodating that and other nuances expressed above or not stated explicitly, I'd slightly prefer for the values to be:

 SK, K,   M,  U,   NC,    T,   R,  D,  SD
  1, 1, 1/2, 1/8, 1/8, -1/8, -1/2, -1, -1 

I would suggest using these in calculation and reporting of CC-2, to be explained as "alternative calculation of correlation, where NC outcome is treated a bit more favorably for a K vote than for a D vote." I'm not sure about also reporting revised matching numbers. But corresponding reporting of the matching could then be where a person's votes matched closely (were less than 1/2), where their votes were not far off (were 1/2 to 1 away), and where their votes were far off (were more than 1 away). That puts M within "not far off" range of R, which is reasonable, as before. It puts NC "not far off" from K, but "far off" from D, as intended.

Perhaps the first version above is the only one that should be programmed and presented, but the possibility of later adding a supplementary measure, one using a revised assignment of numeric values for the votes/outcomes, could be mentioned. That would leave room for concerned editors to make the suggestion that NC should not be regarded as neutral, or other suggestions, independently. cheers, --doncram 14:40, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

In case this helps, the type of correlation coefficient to use is the simple, standard one formally named the Pearson correlation coefficient. You could program it directly if you don't have subroutine or whatever to call. Its formula is, for correlation coefficient r:

$r=r_{xy}={\frac {\sum x_{i}y_{i}-n{\bar {x}}{\bar {y}}}{{\sqrt {(\sum x_{i}^{2}-n{\bar {x}}^{2})}}~{\sqrt {(\sum y_{i}^{2}-n{\bar {y}}^{2})}}}}.$

where one dataset {x₁,...,x_n} contains n values [i.e. the vote values for an editor] and another dataset {y₁,...,y_n} contains n values [i.e. the outcome values]. That is from Pearson product-moment correlation coefficient#For a sample, and it can be calculated on one pass through the data. This r is defined and can be calculated except for when there is no variation in an editor's votes or no variation in the corresponding outcomes, which might happen if an editor has voted in only a few AFDs. If so there is a division by zero problem. I.e. if their votes have the same value then the quantity within the left-hand square root in the denominator is zero, or if all the corresponding outcomes have the same value then the quantity within the right-hand square root is zero, and the formula would blow up either way because the overall denominator would be zero, and you just cannot divide by zero. You need to avoid that by checking for either of those cases and if so then reporting r cannot be calculated. I don't know anything about you so I don't know if you've studied statistics and would know how to find this already. If you're not familiar with statistics then I'd encourage you not to be intimidated, but to just go ahead and program to calculate and report this. If it is not handy to call a correlation coefficient function. The general idea of correlation is well enough understood, it is only the actual calculation that most people would not know.

For example, for an editor who votes (1, -1, 1), where outcomes are (1, -.5, .5), their votes conformed pretty well, and r calculates to .944911183. I checked this in Excel using its "Data Analysis" option to calculate correlation, and get the same also by applying the formula. (Components: x-bar (average x) = .3333, y-bar (average y) = .3333, sum of x-squareds = 3, sum of y-squareds = 1.5, sum of xy's = 2). --doncram 17:43, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Admin rights

You really deserve admin rights go ahead and ask them --Varun ☎ 13:31, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

I appreciate the sentiment, and I already tried last year. I'm planning to work a bit more and try again later on. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 02:22, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

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AFCRHS.js

I don't know javascript that well, so I didn't want to screw around with your code. Currently only the last entry responds to the selection of an option. It looks like it has to do with the ID number (when it enters afcHelper_redirect_onActionChange), as the console says it remains at 34 which I assume is the last request. That and I get a whole bunch of warnings if your interested.

Extended content

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-- Amanda (aka DQ) 17:18, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Taking a look at this soon. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 22:25, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Problem identified. Fixing.... Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 02:52, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

 Done Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 03:03, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

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MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Yet Another Backlog Burninator/tabs

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Delsort gaps

Thank you for updating the script so swiftly! Here are a few more I've just found out aren't recognised:

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Alberta
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Animal
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Ghana
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Journalism
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Kuwait
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Laos
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Libya
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Myanmar

Thanks! Uanfala (talk) 21:33, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

 Done Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 02:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

I created a pull request with a few more changes. — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:01, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Wonderful, thanks! Merged. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 03:05, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Sorry to pile on. Could you add Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Malta (under Europe) as well? --Lemongirl942 (talk) 12:07, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Pull request for Malta. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:43, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Oh, sorry about neglecting this - merged and deployed. And JJMC89, thanks again for the pull request. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 19:50, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

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FACstats?

Hi -- an editor at this discussion suggested that a tool for FAC stats that was similar to the AFDstats page would be useful. I wasn't familiar with the tool, but I'm impressed. Would something similar be possible for FAC reviewing stats? Details are at the linked discussion. I see from the tool's contact info that there are two contact talk pages for the tool, so I'll post this note in both places. I don't know how much work this would be, so I don't know how much of a favour I'm asking; I'll certainly understand if this isn't something y'all are interested in. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:13, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Responding there. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 03:27, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thanks for maintaining that DRN/Request script. I don't understand code, but I do understand (virtual) cookies. Enjoy! Felsic2 (talk) 15:03, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 02:47, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

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I've borrowed your code

Hi Enterprisey, just thought I'd leave you a note to say thank you for orcp-helper, and to let you know I've borrowed butchered it into a tool for WP:EF/FP here. I've also uploaded it to my GitHub account (to help with the more-than-likely bug reports/fixes) and given you credit both on-wiki and on GitHub. If there's any issues please let me know -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 19:01, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm quite flattered. Thanks for letting me know! Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 19:34, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

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AfD Stats: relisting shows up as vote

Relisted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of mobile phone makers by country, shows up in AfD Stats as Keep. I can't recall seeing that before. Best regards, Sam Sailor ^Talk! 17:13, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Related observation: My nomination Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aurelius Prochazka ends with "Delete", and shows up fine in AfD Stats as Delete (Nom). However, in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abdolrahman Jowkar I wrote Delete and then it does not show up as Delete (Nom) in AfD Stats, just as Delete. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 17:43, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Fixed that latter case by unbolding the last bit of your nomination statement. I should look into that. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 02:43, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Dogetipbot for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Dogetipbot is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dogetipbot until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

I suggest you add your two references. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 13:39, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Category requests reviewed with AFCH beta

Hi Enterprisey, I hope you are well.

In Diff of Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects I responded to two category requests. When reviewing the request for Category:People from Sariwon, both Category:People by city in North Korea and Category:People from North Hwanghae were listed in the "reviewing area" at the top of the page as parent categories. (Category:Sariwon was obviously not, as it did not exist yet.) AFCH beta however created Category:People from Sariwon only with the first mentioned parent category, Category:People by city in North Korea, see here. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 11:20, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

I can't say I'm that familiar with the AFCH beta source code, although I'll give it a read-through anyway. As a side note, it might be worth it to take the category code out of AFCH beta and repackage it into a new script, since I can't even edit the AFCH beta code in the interface namespace. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 15:24, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Sam Sailor, alright, I read the source code and found the error. Apparently the script only supports one parent category, ever. I guess I should copy the script to my userspace and make the necessary modification, which should take less than an hour. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 15:27, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Sam Sailor, I made a new script that supports multiple parent categories, located at User:Enterprisey/AFCRHS.js. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 17:55, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, I will install and test. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 09:49, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

I had a chance to test User:Enterprisey/AFCRHS.js today, and there seems to be a bug: the script is stuck after choosing say "accept" in the initial scroll-down box. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 08:21, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Sam Sailor, apparently I forgot to include editing functionality. (Oops...) Should be fixed now. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 00:22, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, but now, when clicking "Review (old)" in the More menu, nothing at all happens. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 07:28, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Hmm. The script seems to be working for me. Would it be possible for you to open your developer console, then hit "Review (old)", then paste any error messages that appear on this talk page? Thanks! Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 17:50, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Now the initial "Reviewing AfC redirect requests" displays fine. Scrolling down to "Decline" nothing happens. In Firefox the error message is: "ReferenceError: afcHelper_redirect_onActionChange is not defined" followed by "onchange() Redirects:1" on a new line. In Chrome it's similar: "Uncaught ReferenceError: afcHelper_redirect_onActionChange is not defined", new line line "onchange @ Redirects:1". Best, Sam Sailor ^Talk! 11:39, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

I think I know what the problem is; will fix when I get back to a computer. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 14:04, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Update: I know exactly what the problem is, and I'm fixing it right now. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 17:56, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Sam Sailor, fixed. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 19:25, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Worked nicely on the redir request I responded to. Thank you again, Enterprisey. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 08:54, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

We got a cat request now I responded to, and I get this error message in Firefox. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 10:27, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Error report

TypeError: category_name.replace is not a function

afcHelper_redirect_init()          index.php:84

<anonymous>          index.php:685

jQuery.event.dispatch()          load.php:65

jQuery.event.add/elemData.handle()          load.php:60

Probably no surprise, but when responding to a R request and that cat request still being open, the same error is returned. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 16:49, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Sam Sailor, fixed. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 02:44, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, will test. Is Special:Permalink/727201754#Caps in closing param a 1-min job when you can code? Skip it, if you are busy, it's not an urgent matter. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 08:42, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Responding to a cat request, all went smoothly. But subsequently responding to a redir request, nothing happens after you pick "Accept" and the error code "IN CHANGE HANDLER index.php:548:39" (new line) "Entering afcHelper_redirect_onActionChange, id = 2 index.php:205:9" is returned. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 08:53, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Sam Sailor, I just fixed a couple of bugs; can you check if you can review now? Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 03:05, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Works fine on redirects, thanks. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 15:34, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

It makes sense to have the most common R templates listed at the top of onActionChange(id) but could we list them all sorted per {{R template index}}, have a look at the below. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 17:21, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

R templates

   function afcHelper_redirect_onActionChange(id) {
       console.log("Entering afcHelper_redirect_onActionChange, id = " + id);
       var extra = $("#afcHelper_redirect_extra_" + id);
       var selectValue = $("#afcHelper_redirect_action_" + id).val();
       extra.html(); // Blank it first
       if (selectValue === 'accept') {
           if (afcHelper_Submissions[id].type === 'redirect') {
               extra.html(extra.html() + '<label for="afcHelper_redirect_from_' + id + '">From: </label><input type="text" ' + 'name="afcHelper_redirect_from_' + id + '" id="afcHelper_redirect_from_' + id + '" value="' + afcHelper_escapeHtmlChars(afcHelper_Submissions[id].title) + '" />');
               extra.html(extra.html() + ' 
<label for="afcHelper_redirect_to_' + id + '">To: </label><input type="text" ' + 'name="afcHelper_redirect_to_' + id + '" id="afcHelper_redirect_to_' + id + '" value="' + afcHelper_escapeHtmlChars(afcHelper_Submissions[id].to) + '" />');
               extra.html(extra.html() + '
<label for="afcHelper_redirect_append_' + id + '">Template to append: </label>' + afcHelper_generateSelect('afcHelper_redirect_append_' + id, [{
                   label: 'Frequently used',
                   value: 'Frequently used',
                   disabled: true
               }, {
                   label: 'R from alternative name',
                   value: 'R from alternative name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from alternative language',
                   value: 'R from alternative language'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from alternative spelling',
                   value: 'R from alternative spelling'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to section',
                   value: 'R to section'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to disambiguation page',
                   value: 'R to disambiguation page'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from title with diacritics',
                   value: 'R from title with diacritics'
               }, {
                   label: 'Grammar, punctuation, and spelling',
                   value: 'Grammar, punctuation, and spelling',
                   disabled: true
               }, {
                   label: 'R to acronym',
                   value: 'R to acronym'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from acronym',
                   value: 'R from acronym'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to initialism',
                   value: 'R to initialism'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from initialism',
                   value: 'R from initialism'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from CamelCase',
                   value: 'R from CamelCase'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from other capitalisation',
                   value: 'R from other capitalisation'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from miscapitalisation',
                   value: 'R from miscapitalisation'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from modification',
                   value: 'R from modification'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from plural',
                   value: 'R from plural'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to plural',
                   value: 'R to plural'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to disambiguation page',
                   value: 'R to disambiguation page'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from title with diacritics',
                   value: 'R from title with diacritics'
               }, {
                   label: 'Parts of speech',
                   value: 'Parts of speech',
                   disabled: true
               }, {
                   label: 'R from adjective',
                   value: 'R from adjective'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from adverb',
                   value: 'R from adverb'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from common noun',
                   value: 'R from common noun'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from gerund',
                   value: 'R from gerund'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from proper noun',
                   value: 'R from proper noun'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from verb',
                   value: 'R from verb'
               }, {
                   label: 'Spelling',
                   value: 'Spelling',
                   disabled: true
               }, {
                   label: 'R from alternative spelling',
                   value: 'R from alternative spelling'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from ASCII-only',
                   value: 'R from ASCII-only'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to ASCII-only',
                   value: 'R to ASCII-only'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from diacritics',
                   value: 'R from diacritics'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to diacritics',
                   value: 'R to diacritics'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from misspelling',
                   value: 'R from misspelling'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from stylization',
                   value: 'R from stylization'
               }, {
                   label: 'Alternative names - General',
                   value: 'Alternative names - General',
                   disabled: true
               }, {
                   label: 'R from alternative language',
                   value: 'R from alternative language'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from alternative name',
                   value: 'R from alternative name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from former name',
                   value: 'R from former name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from historic name',
                   value: 'R from historic name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from incorrect name',
                   value: 'R from incorrect name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from list topic',
                   value: 'R from list topic'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from long name',
                   value: 'R from long name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from short name',
                   value: 'R from short name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from sort name',
                   value: 'R from sort name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from less specific name',
                   value: 'R from less specific name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from more specific name',
                   value: 'R from more specific name'
               }, {
                   label: 'Alternative names - People',
                   value: 'Alternative names - People',
                   disabled: true
               }, {
                   label: 'R from birth name',
                   value: 'R from birth name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from personal name',
                   value: 'R from personal name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from surname',
                   value: 'R from surname'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from given name',
                   value: 'R from given name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from married name',
                   value: 'R from married name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from pseudonym',
                   value: 'R from pseudonym'
               }, {
                   label: 'Alternative names - Technical',
                   value: 'Alternative names - Technical',
                   disabled: true
               }, {
                   label: 'R from technical name',
                   value: 'R from technical name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to technical name',
                   value: 'R to technical name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from trade name',
                   value: 'R from trade name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from molecular formula',
                   value: 'R from molecular formula'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from Java package name',
                   value: 'R from Java package name'
               }, {
                   label: 'Alternative names - Organisms',
                   value: 'Alternative names - Organisms',
                   disabled: true
               }, {
                   label: 'R from scientific name',
                   value: 'R from scientific name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to scientific name',
                   value: 'R to scientific name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from alternative scientific name',
                   value: 'R from alternative scientific name'
               }, {
                   label: 'Alternative names - Geography',
                   value: 'Alternative names - Geography',
                   disabled: true
               }, {
                   label: 'R from name and country',
                   value: 'R from name and country'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from specific geographic name',
                   value: 'R from specific geographic name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from postal code',
                   value: 'R from postal code'
               }, {
                   label: 'Navigation',
                   value: 'Navigation',
                   disabled: true
               }, {
                   label: 'R to anchor',
                   value: 'R to anchor'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from file metadata link',
                   value: 'R from file metadata link'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to list entry',
                   value: 'R to list entry'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to section',
                   value: 'R to section'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from shortcut',
                   value: 'R from shortcut'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from template shortcut',
                   value: 'R from template shortcut'
               }, {
                   label: 'Disambiguation',
                   value: 'Disambiguation',
                   disabled: true
               }, {
                   label: 'R to disambiguation page',
                   value: 'R to disambiguation page'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from ambiguous page',
                   value: 'R from ambiguous page'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from other disambiguation',
                   value: 'R from other disambiguation'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from unnecessary disambiguation',
                   value: 'R from unnecessary disambiguation'
               }, {
                   label: 'Merge, duplicate & move',
                   value: 'Merge, duplicate & move',
                   disabled: true
               }, {
                   label: 'R from merge',
                   value: 'R from merge'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from duplicated article',
                   value: 'R from duplicated article'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from move',
                   value: 'R from move'
               }, {
                   label: 'R with history',
                   value: 'R with history'
               }, {
                   label: 'R with old history',
                   value: 'R with old history'
               }, {
                   label: 'To namespaces',
                   value: 'To namespaces',
                   disabled: true
               }, {
                   label: 'R to main namespace',
                   value: 'R to main namespace'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to talk page',
                   value: 'R to talk page'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to category namespace',
                   value: 'R to category namespace'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to help namespace',
                   value: 'R to help namespace'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to portal namespace',
                   value: 'R to portal namespace'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to project namespace',
                   value: 'R to project namespace'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to template namespace',
                   value: 'R to template namespace'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to user namespace',
                   value: 'R to user namespace'
               }, {
                   label: 'Fiction',
                   value: 'Fiction',
                   disabled: true
               }, {
                   label: 'R from fictional character',
                   value: 'R from fictional character'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from fictional element',
                   value: 'R from fictional element'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from fictional place',
                   value: 'R from fictional place'
               }, {
                   label: 'Related information',
                   value: 'Related information',
                   disabled: true
               }, {
                   label: 'R to related topic',
                   value: 'R to related topic'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from related word',
                   value: 'R from related word'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from phrase',
                   value: 'R from phrase'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from subtopic',
                   value: 'R from subtopic'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from album',
                   value: 'R from album'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from book',
                   value: 'R from book'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from domain name',
                   value: 'R from domain name'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from film',
                   value: 'R from film'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from gender',
                   value: 'R from gender'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from member',
                   value: 'R from member'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from school',
                   value: 'R from school'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from song',
                   value: 'R from song'
               }, {
                   label: 'R from Unicode',
                   value: 'R from Unicode'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to article without mention',
                   value: 'R to article without mention'
               }, {
                   label: 'R to decade',
                   value: 'R to decade'
               }, {
                   label: 'None',
                   selected: true,
                   value: 'none'
               }]));                    

Awesome, thanks! I've added your proposed changes, and the script seems to work. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 01:35, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Still works fine. Should we drop the selected label: 'None' and set 'R from alternative name' as selected? Would it render more readable if we put the "headings" inside a glyph of some kind like e.g. '* Frequently used *'? Sam Sailor ^Talk! 08:35, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

I responded to a category request here, and it went smoothly. As one of the parent cats did not exist I filed a request myself and responded to it. I had put the previously created cat (Category:Gryf Wejherowo players) in the request in the paragraph "Example articles which belong to this category" and when responding it turned up in the field with comma separated parent cats. Just mentioning it, I know scripts can't be coded to take into account all possible ID-10T errors. :) Sam Sailor ^Talk! 17:43, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Good to know - will look into how I can improve script detection. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 18:00, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

An empty cat request was declined just fine, but empty R requests do not show up when reviewing. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 13:23, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Diff of Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects - would an extra \n solve it? Sam Sailor ^Talk! 04:20, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

This is, indeed, a correct assessment.  Done Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 04:24, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! I just notice now (and hate to pile-on), a trailing space after sub.comment before ~~~~ would be nice. Tangential inre "spaces", seen this before?: [[User:Username|{{Zwsp}}]] Pings as intended and invisible in page view. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 05:35, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

A belated  Done. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 03:38, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

And a belated Thank you. I have some ideas for AFCRHS, should I post them to User talk:Enterprisey/AFCRHS so you have it in one place? Sam Sailor ^Talk! 08:16, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

This page is good, I think. Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 12:23, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Template:Vandalism information

How can I create a own version of the template. What process do I follow. VarunFEB2003 (talk) 18:09, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

VarunFEB2003, I'm assuming you want to make a custom re-skin of the template, like many editors have done. All you need to do is make a subpage of your user page with the exact name "Wdefcon" (without the quotes), like I did at User:Enterprisey/Wdefcon. The subpage needs to contain some code for a template with one required parameter, called "level" (which is the defcon level, ranging from 0 to 5), and one optional parameter, called "align" (which specifies the side of the page the template should float to). All it has to do is display the number in some sort of informative way. You can check out Category:Wdefcon templates for some inspiration. Hope this helps! Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 02:52, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks a lot VarunFEB2003 (talk) 06:33, 23 July 2016 (UTC)