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Capitalization

With regard to your comment here about capitalizing "the" in "the Queensway" or "the Esplanade", I do not agree that the definite article should be capitalized just because it is part of the name. Please see the Wikipedia Manual of Style on the use of "The" mid-sentence:

Incorrect (generic): There was an article about The United Kingdom in yesterday's newspaper.

Correct (generic): There was an article about the United Kingdom in yesterday's newspaper.

Incorrect (exception): There are two seaside resorts in the Hague.

Correct (exception): There are two seaside resorts in The Hague.

"The Hague" is listed as an exception, while the general rule is that "the" should not be capitalized as in "the United Kingdom". The Manual is not as clear as it could be here, so I checked the Wikipedia article on the Queensway to see what the common usage is. As you will see in the article, Wikipedians are not capitalizing "the" in the article about that street. There is no article on the Esplanade in Toronto, but the St. Lawrence Market article does not capitalize "the". (I have never edited these two articles.) Unless you can find something in the Manual of its associated guides that says that we should capitalize here, I think we shouldn't. Ground Zero | t 01:23, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Ah, but The Queensway and The Esplanade are the actual street names. The US isn't "The United States of America", its the "United States of America". - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 01:30, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Um, that isn't an explanation, it is a tautology. Of course the name of the second largest country in North America is "the United States of America". Again, the WP:MOS lists "The Hague" as an exception to the general rule. It does not say that street names are an exception to the general rule. Ground Zero | t 13:34, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Regardless of the situation with America, the "The" is The Esplanade and The Queensway are capitalized in Toronto map, and thus are the correct version to use, regardless of any wiki policy or standard, because that's the actual name. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 18:37, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Of course it is capitalized on a map, where it stands alone and is not part of a sentence. The question is, how do you write it in a sentence? In this case, Wikipedia style does apply because, well, this is Wikipedia. The City of Toronto website uses both styles. Ground Zero | t 02:23, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

In Mississauga the road is known as "Queensway". Theoretically, it would appear on a map or sign as the Queensway, but it doesn't. It appears as "Queensway". No drive, avenue, road, or the. It only makes sense that if the Toronto portion of the route is labelled The Queensway, that the 'The' is part of the name of the road. On the other end of the shtick is something like the QEW. In spoken dialogue it is always preceded by 'the', but the road is not signed or named 'the QEW' (or 'The QEW'). At the very least it is confusing, and we should try to contact a city official. ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 18:06, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

TTC station infobox

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My thought is that bus or streetcar services that do not enter the station should not be shown in the infobox. Some stations include a loop or bus terminal and any entry in the infobox should reflect that. The articles, under the reformatting, already outline the details. Another tip is that when you do enter the templates for these services they should be placed on the same line, because they create a line-break.Secondarywaltz (talk) 23:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Red link removal

Please have a look at Wikipedia:Red_link and undo your red link removal binge. It is not helpful to the encyclopedia to go through and remove red links specifically because they are red links. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 00:51, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I also encourage Eja2k to review Wikipedia:Red link. (I learned something by doing so.) For what it is worth, however, I have looked at her/his red link removal, and think that, for the most part, the work is consistent with this guideline:

"Articles should not have red links for topics that are unlikely ever to have articles.... Good red links help Wikipedia—they encourage new contributors in useful directions, and remind us that Wikipedia is far from finished."

I think that most (but not all) of the red links that Eja2k has been removing are to subjects that are unlikely to merit or get a Wikipedia article. Ground Zero | t 01:11, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Pulling out random choices it just seems that all redlinks are being removed from articles; systemically covering all aspects of Toronto and the Golden Horseshoe.

I also encourage eja2k to review WP:Trivia, WP:Lists and WP:DIRECTORY. There is a big difference between a list of miscellaneous facts (a trivia section) and lists on specific aspects of a topic that has an article. Removing the awards school sports teams have won, past principals (not lists of staff, but principals and headmasters), programs provided by the school, notable alumni, etc is simply the removal of information that you do not find useful. Several summaries read "per wiki policy", but no policy is ever cited. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 01:24, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

TTC (disambiguation)

On Toronto Transit Commission, how about:

"TTC" redirects here. For other uses, see TTC (disambiguation).

Otherwise, how will people expecting some other meaning of 'TTC' reach the TTC (disambiguation) page? EdJohnston (talk) 15:10, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

TTC colour bar on signs

When I was customizing the Station Infobox to suit TTC styles, you requested "a simple colored bar at the top ... with the name of the station in white on black lettering". I did that. Is there something wrong with the use here of the default red for streetcar routes, like the TTC does? Secondarywaltz (talk) 16:00, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Template:TTC ridership

Perfect update! Thank you. Secondarywaltz (talk) 23:46, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

512 St. Clair

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501 Queen • 502 Downtowner • 503 Kingston Rd • 504 King • 508 Lake Shore • 509 Harbourfront • 510 Spadina • 511 Bathurst • 512 St. Clair

Did you bother checking the results of your moving all the route diagrams into the infoboxes? Revert them or fix them. Useddenim (talk) 01:05, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

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Clarification about edits

When you added one of my pictures to the subway rolling stock gallery, you stated "added TR pics to the gallery ... its a work in progress, better pics to follow when the train enters service!". Of what kind of better pictures are you thinking? I have a bunch of TR pictures I haven't uploaded, maybe I have some already.Reaperexpress (talk) 03:01, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

A nice frontal profile picture with no obstructions (ie people or temporary barricades as was the case with the Downsview and Davisville photo ops) would be nice for the gallery. eja2k 03:11, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Reaperexpress (talk) 22:34, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Sheppard-Yonge's "third platform" which I was referring to in the Davisville Station article is the westbound platform on the Sheppard line level. It is used for unloading passengers as trains go out of service, just like the Davisville Buildup. Keeping with the Davisville numbering standard, it would actually be a second or fourth platform, depending on whether you count the Yonge line platforms, but I thought the mention in the Davisville station article was mainly to point out that it's special in having semi-active platform, rather than the specific number of platforms.Reaperexpress (talk) 03:01, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

One would then argue that St. George and Bloor-Yonge have 4 platforms. The thing with Davisville is its the only station with 2 regular + 1 extra/occasionally used platform on a single line. Sheppard, Y&B and St. George all have the right number of platforms for each line (though Sheppard usually only uses the one on the Sheppard Subway), Davisville is an exception as was the original intent of the reference. (or at least thats how i read it) eja2k 03:11, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, St. George and Bloor-Yonge have 4 platforms if you number like was done with Davisville (which only has two physical platforms yet the buildup is a "third" platform), but that's irrelevant. To me, the sentence reads as if Davisville is the only station with a semi-active platform, which is not the case because the Sheppard-Yonge upper level has one too. Reaperexpress (talk) 22:34, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

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I like the new changes you made to Toronto Rocket (Toronto subway car). ;-) Ground Zero | t 01:50, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I think it was 12 "New"s that I removed... it was getting kinda ridiculous! Thanks for the support... and thanks for trying to keep the ip editors under control... It seems like that article in particular has a whole lot of interest from misguided folks who want to add flowery language and run on sentences that just add to the verbal clutter. eja2k 04:04, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

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