Csneed
Roger that, and thanks for the clarification!Csneed 02:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Mountains
editGreat work on those various mountain pages (House, Holston, etc...)! ChristopherM 02:57, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks.. I used to work in those markets and know the mountains like the back of my hand.Csneed 02:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
WSAZ Misleading
editYou're preaching to the choir here; I've been in the business for more than 25 years. --Mhking 02:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate that, but again, WSAZ is not considered an NBC-TV affiliate in Ohio just because its signal reaches into that state.Csneed 02:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia links
editYou only need to link the first time something is mentioned, like the TV and radio stations in the House Mountain article. --AW 20:20, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- Again, you don't need to link every time something is mentioned, and you don't need to put -TV after something once you've already said it's a TV station --AW 13:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
WTVC
editIf I'm reading your edits to WTVC correctly, you sound like you're saying that you're the only one who can edit the station history. This is strictly verboten per Wikipedia policy--please see WP:OWN.
I have worked at the station the past 16 years (and for three years in the early 1970's), and people have been changing the history incorrectly, putting in incorrect, unverifiable facts. I wrote the original history that is there; there is no need to change the history that I have written.. it is correct and is verifiable. My suggestion is for people to leave the history alone, otherwise I am compelled to delete the incorrect information constantly, correcting it to the factual history I originally wrote. I am striving for accuracy, and it is too bad that others just want to leave their mark on something.
Tennessee Wikiproject
editHi, I noticed you've made a lot of edits about Tennessee-related articles. Please consider joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Tennessee --AW 08:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
I would love to.. how does one go about doing that? The link provides no instructions on how to join?Csneed 00:36, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
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WSYX static
editYour quote from my talk page:
- You are obviously not familiar with radio-TV station ownership. The "grandfathered" protection HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WLWC-FM. Nothing at all. Never had, never did. The "grandfathered" protection applies ONLY to WLWC-TV, WLWD-TV (Dayton) and WLWT-TV, Cincinnati. Before you mention something you know nothing about, consult someone who knows the facts. The "similar situation" does not apply to the RADIO station, only the TV stations in adjacent markets. The radio station edit may be a minor one (to you). But it is a FACTUAL ONE. And you still need to brush up on the word "redundancy." Your response here, does not explain that. Or is that your normal response to anyone who has a problem with your editing?
- Once again, you MISS THE POINT. Read the first two paragraphs. Since it seems as though you haven't done so, I'll patronize you with a reproduction. Go ahead and read -- I DARE YOU.
- The station began operations on August 30, 1949 as WTVN-TV, Columbus' second television station. The station was owned by Picture Waves, Inc., controlled by Toledo attorney and investor Edward Lamb, and was a sister station to WTVN radio. In February 1953, Picture Waves sold the WTVN stations to the Taft Television and Radio Company, which was based in Cincinnati. Taft later purchased an FM station in Columbus, WLWF (96.3 MHz.), from the Crosley Broadcasting Corporation in 1959, renaming it WTVN-FM (it is now WLVQ).
- WTVN-TV was an affiliate of the DuMont Television Network at its inception, and was one of only three primary affiliates of that network. In 1953, it took on a secondary affiliation with ABC. Channel 6 became an exclusive ABC station when DuMont closed down operations in 1956. In the early 1970s, Taft's common ownership of WTVN-TV and WKRC-TV in Cincinnati was awarded "grandfather status" by the Federal Communications Commission which, under its newly-enacted "one-to-a-market" rule, prohibited television stations with overlapping signals to share common ownership while protecting existing instances. (One of channel 6's competitors, Crosley/Avco-owned WLWC [channel 4, now WCMH-TV], was also given grandfathered protection through a similar situation.)
- Now, your so-called "dispute" contradicts itself immediately:
- 1. If I knew nothing at all about station ownership, as you claim, then I wouldn't have added the second paragraph to the article, right? ([1])
- 2. Where is it implied that WLWF/WTVN-FM wasn't protected by the grandfather clause? The second paragraph talks about "Taft's common ownership of WTVN-TV and WKRC-TV in Cincinnati", and how "One of channel 6's competitors, Crosley/Avco-owned WLWC [channel 4, now WCMH-TV], was also given grandfathered protection through a similar situation". The radio station isn't even mentioned here, nor is it implied to be involved in this scenario. In reality the radio station was protected, once the rules went into effect. And while the grandfathered protection between WLW-C (WCMH-TV) is mentioned, WLW-T and WLW-D (and WLW radio, to stretch it even further) aren't mentioned. They are in the WCMH-TV article, where it is relevant -- not in the WSYX article.
- Your last quote from my talk page:
- "You know, considering everything.. I wrote the original article on WSYX.. I wrote it.. and I can delete it, too. The whole thing. I see where you have been banned from editing copy before. We will see where this one goes, too."
- You claim to be some kind of front-line authority on television stations, but you have instead sounded like a child throwing a temper tantrum when he doesn't get his way. Not to mention that you have no clue as to what you're talking about. And my history has nothing to do with this situation. Don't waste my time with this nonsense again. Rollosmokes (talk) 08:01, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Agreed.. debate over.
Csneed (talk) 02:20, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
No, it's not over...
edit...Because you added irrelevant information on WTVN-FM that doesn't belong in the WSYX entry (rather, it should be in the WLVQ article). Your attempt to expand the history of the FM station is nothing more than you doing everything you can to prove your point. Please stop unnecessarily editing this article for that reason. Rollosmokes (talk) 07:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
After your last edit, I have requested that an administrator step in and mediate. I will also seek to charge you with incivility over your personal attacks. Rollosmokes (talk) 07:43, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
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WKPT
editNope, it wasn't you ... I was just getting rid of vandalism by BenH (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), who has been nothing but trouble on TV station articles for over two years now. I actually reverted back to the last version you edited. Blueboy96 12:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Adding a TV Station to the "Stations That Were Established In 1948"
editAdded!. The appropriate category is Category:Television channels and stations established in 1948. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:45, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
House Mountain - Broadcast History citations
editMr. Csneed:
The WBIR/WATE spat over House Mountain is a fascinating story, but when you attribute information to an individual, it really needs a hard citation. If the interview is from a radio or television broadcast, cite the channel, program, and date and time of the broadcast— note this is necessary even if you conducted the interview. If it's from a publication, cite the publication. Simply adding "Mr. Reece said" or "According to John Reece" isn't an apt citation because it isn't verifiable, especially if Reece is no longer alive. Bms4880 (talk) 21:24, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for adding the citation. I created a footnote for it at the end of the paragraph and moved it to the references section. Bms4880 (talk) 14:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
WTVC
editWe (at the talk page for WP:TVS) have been talking about culling the staff listings into something much more manageable (and short); the listings -- at least as you have them now -- are ripe for that sort of culling. I'm sure we'll get back to that as soon as the DMA listing problems (which are certainly much larger) are addressed. Just as an FYI to you, the type of change that I made will be most likely what will happen. --Mhking (talk) 00:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome...Since the station's coverage area covers part of SE Kentucky (my home state), I have the station on my watchlist. When I looked at the IP vandal's other contribs, I quickly used rollback to revert the edits. Hopefully the sysops will block him/her soon. Thanks and Merry Christmas, Willking1979 (talk) 17:15, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Spelling of Virginia
editNot to worry, I've seen it spelled worse than that. I once saw an editor go 0 for 4 on "The Wall Street Journal", not getting even one word right. Happy editing! Chris the speller (talk) 23:48, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
W for We're
editYou wrote that the W in broadcasting callsigns was typically used to indicate "We're". While I can imagine that may sometimes be the case, I would caution against applying that to any callsign that begins with W, especially newer stations that may more often simply have randomly assigned callsigns. I'd also not apply it unless it is absolutely verifiable. Take WSM/WSMV, which stood for "We Shield Millions", which was the slogan of their original owner, an insurance company. Also, can you provide some kind of source that backs up the "We're" thing? Cheers. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 04:32, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, if you are going by a pre-established list of stations that use it, then I'm not going to raise a fuss over that. I was just afraid it was being applied more universally. Good to see an explanation. Cheers! — Huntster (t • @ • c) 03:04, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Vandalism Catch
editNot a problem. I have most of the TV station pages in VA, MD, WV, and PA on my watchlist, so if it comes across there, I will catch it :) Let me know if you are ever having problems with vandalism (something I don't see) and I will be glad to help out. Take Care...NeutralHomer • Talk • 01:58, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Heartland Series
editHi. Back in January, you added some content to WBIR-TV regarding the inception of the Heartland Series. I can't find a source for that information. Do you remember where you got it from? --Orlady (talk) 18:33, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, shucks! That's an interesting story, and I have no doubt that it's true, but I guess it needs to come out of Wikipedia unless you can find a way to get it published somewhere else. Can Steve Dean write a memoir, or arrange to be interviewed about this? (Actually, he's done a bunch of interviews about the show -- maybe this has made it into print as a result of one of them...) --Orlady (talk) 03:39, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Dates are no longer being linked
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Thanks for the update! I had wondered about that, because I saw them disappearing. You're right--it does make it easier to include stuff. Thanks again!Csneed (talk) 03:41, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
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WNOX and WIVK
editMr. Sneed:
Do you where exactly in the Andrew Johnson Building the WNOX studios were located in the 1930s? Also, do you know where the old WIVK studio was located on Gay Street? I'm going to build some Knoxville-related articles here over the next few weeks. Bms4880 (talk) 22:08, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info! I may have more questions in the coming weeks. Bms4880 (talk) 21:57, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
TV station articles
editI'm with you on the it/they issue. I've been going through a lot of TV station articles and seeing a lot of room for improvement. It looks like there are one or two editors who have made very impressive contributions to these articles, but who could use some help in style and formatting matters. In addition to correcting it/they, I have also been on the look-out for the redundancy "$5 million dollars", which I am seeing fairly frequently. This/these editors have also taken a fairly random approach to the capitalization of the sub-headings, ignoring the Wikipedia style of capitalizing only the first word (and, of course, proper nouns). Finally he/she/they seem to be fond of using industry jargon to describe employees -- "personalities" or "talent". I am trying to use more factual and descriptive terms like "staff" and "announcers". Cheers. Ground Zero | t 14:27, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I have having some on-going difficulty with User:Strafidlo on the it/they issue. As you will see on his/her talk page, Strafidlo is continuing to introducing grammatical errors into other people's work on articles. Any assistance you could provide would be appreciated. Ground Zero | t 11:38, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Andrew Johnson Building interior
editMr. Sneed:
How about uploading some photos of the Andrew Johnson Building interior, say, the second-floor lobby, or a hallway. The new article seems insufficient without an interior shot. If you're unfamiliar with Wikimedia Commons, let me know. Bms4880 (talk) 00:37, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Station slogans on WCYB-TV
editYou might want to check other pages. That user continously adds and readds those national slogans to various pages (including ones in the Tri-Cities). I have essentially given up on removing them. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 05:23, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
- Sure, not a problem. :) It's what I do around here. :) - NeutralHomer • Talk • 05:29, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
- I go back to the dentist today (Tuesday) and I hope they can give something to relive some of the pain and allow me to eat. I love pudding and Jello, but not every day for every meal. My stomach is revolting at not being fed. :) But at present, I am doing pretty good. *knock on wood* - NeutralHomer • Talk • 05:47, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Plaza and Riverview
editI've created short articles (pieced together from News-Sentinel tidbits) for the First Tennessee Plaza and Riverview Tower. If you have any info sources for either of these, let me know. I would like to create longer articles for both. Bms4880 (talk) 23:59, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Poor Mountain
edit9 and 35... the first station that comes to mind is KGUN in Tucson. But looking at your edit history, I'm going with WTVC. Am I right?
Some stations moved back, but most did not. WTVC and WDEF did, but WRCB is still on 13, WDSI is still on 40, WTCI is still on 29, WNGH is still on 33, WELF is still on 16, and WFLI is still on 42. In the case of Roanoke, only WSET and WDRL returned to their analog channels. Everyone else stayed put. My data is correct and can be confirmed on my own website (RabbitEars.Info) or if you prefer, by the FCC website in multiple places. In addition, I live in the Roanoke market and own a spectrum analyzer and I can guarantee they're right where I have them listed.
I hope I'm not coming across as mean/rude, as I don't intend to, but I'm short on sleep and short on completed homework assignments, so my apologies in advance if I sound that way. TripEricson (talk) 04:59, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
You're right on WTVC.. WATE-TV and WVLT-TV, Knoxville switched to their digital UHF channels, because their coverage areas actually increased on the digital UHF channel.. I get them in Chattanooga on the hill I live on. I also get WBXX, digital channel 50, too.. WSMV stayed on its digital channel 10 in Nashville, too. For some reason WRCB did not change from digital channel 13 (I believe it was a financial decision), and it did come back to haunt them, as their overall coverage area shrank tremendously, especially in the northern fringes, Bledsoe, Rhea, Meigs, McMinn (folks not on cable or satellite were forced to switch to WBIR-TV for NBC). WBIR is changing to digital channel 10, and also in Chattooga, Gordon, Fannin (actually, they are in the Atlanta DMA anyway, but are closer to Chattanooga--off-air folks there had to switch to WXIA-TV for NBC).
What's helped them (and everybody else) is that cable and satellite companies are mandated to protect stations in the counties in their DMA's.
As long as PSIP converts the UHF digital signal to a virtual channel, which converter boxes, cable and satellite companies read, stations can stay on their UHF channels, but it's more economical to switch back.
Don't worry about the disposition LOL!! That's what I hate about "writing" something. It never conveys the actual emotion and tone of a person's voice. Hope the homework assignments work out. I also used to have a spectrum analyzer, but a friend of mine in Knoxville for it in a television museum he's building. I have a First Phone license, too, and did a transmitter shift at WKPT-TV and WJHL-TV in the Tri-Cities on Holston Mountain back in the 70's (I helped put WKPT-TV on the air). I'm in the process of upgrading the license to digital.Csneed (talk) 16:43, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
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editHi. At WBIR-TV, you reverted an edit with the note "WBIR-TV did not have the "Move Closer to your World" music package, WATE-TV did. See Southern Media's List of Station News Themes." I don't doubt that you are correct, but I have concerns about verifiability. Most of the content on station news themes, slogans, etc., is completely unsourced -- that's contrary to Wikipedia policy, because there's no way of telling whether the content is valid. If you have source(s) for the information you have added to this and other articles, please provide reference citations. Sources don't need to be online -- print sources are good, too.
That edit summary suggests that http://www.southernmedia-nmsa.com/ is the source. I was pleased to see an indication that a source exists for that kind of content. Is that a reliable source by Wikipedia standards? Can you add that website to the references for WBIR and other station articles? --Orlady (talk) 22:43, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
- RE your response elsewhere: I'm confused. You are saying that SouthernMedia is a reliable source regarding stations' past theme music, but you are saying that there are no reliable sources for information on stations' past theme music... --Orlady (talk) 05:03, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
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Sharp's Ridge tower heights
editMr. Sneed:
The article states that the old SpectraSite tower is the highest on the ridge. The FCC's ASR database, however, states that the Richland tower (467m) is the tallest, followed by the Gannett tower (458m), with the SpectraSite tower (443m) third:
Registration 1222895 (Richland)
Registration 1042631 (Gannett)
Registration 1052156 (SpectraSite)
Is this correct? Bms4880 (talk) 17:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick response. Is there a reason why the three towers all reach about the same elevation (868.4m)? Bms4880 (talk) 18:22, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
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Hey Csneed,
Thank you so much for you soultion. So what you are saying is make a link for each name but then wouldn't it be a red link since they have no article. If you could, could you start by returning the 3 lists to Access Hollywood, Entertainment Tonight and Extra and I will try to work on the TV Stations. That way I can see what you mean and how you went about doing them. Thanks so much. TVFAN24 (talk) 02:06, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
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