User talk:CrazyC83/archive5

Tropical cyclones in popular culture deletion debate

Greetings! An article which you have edited, Tropical cyclones in popular culture, has been nominated for deletion. You may wish to voice your opinion in the deletion debate. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:05, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

115 kt

God, I completely forgot about that and the issue we had at Nora. Thanks. – Chacor 15:56, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Code cleanup in Template:Infobox hurricane current

I could understand the first revert, however, the second was completely uncalled for. The changes were code cleanup that in no way affected the look of the template. The changes were fixing badly-written code. Care to explain? --MZMcBride 06:00, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tornado emergency

It has been mentionned in the Wikiproject Severe Weather talk page but here is a link to the discussion.--JForget 01:02, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

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Don't delete the TD 9 information again. Just don't. It needs to be, this is a serious event. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Big texas lump (talk • contribs) 16:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Hurricane Humberto (2007)

The Hurricane Humberto (2007) article received heavy editing today by unregistered users, which I noticed at WikiRage.com. According to Wikipedia Page History Statistics, you are one of the top contributors to that page. If you think your efforts to improve that article would be improved if new and unregistered users were blocked from editing that article, please let me know and I will protect that page. Thanks. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 07:12, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Hurricane Katrina

The Hurricane Katrina article received heavy editing today by unregistered users, which I noticed at WikiRage.com. The article may benefit from a good review. According to Wikipedia Page History Statistics, you are one of the top contributors to that page. If you have the time, would you please read over the article and make any necessary changes. Thanks. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 01:50, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Tornadoes

Hi. I am really disagreeing with this sentence which starts with "Most tornadoes happen in the U.S. ..." and so it seems the general scope of the sets of articles. Please see Talk:Tornadoes of 2007#"Most tornadoes form in the U.S.". Simply south 16:31, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Owensboro tornado

The event box lists the Owensboro tornado happening before the Sebree one, but it went through Sebree first. Both events were from the same storm Angry Aspie 00:53, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Category 4 or 5

Hey, Crazy! Thanks for contributing at the article of Cyclone Sidr. We didn't have any access of the internet over the last few days for the lack of electricity in Bangladesh. Anyway, was that a category 4 or category 5 cyclone? BBC report here is saying about category 5. Please confirm. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh (talk) 11:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Speedies

You're not cutting and pasting articles, though. You made edits in your userspace, and you can cut and paste what you've created into the article, which is essentially the same thing as creating that article all there, in front of you. Copy/paste moves in the mainspace are discouraged due to the histories being "screwed up" (for lack of a better term), but there is no reason to keep the edit history of what you've created in your userspace, as you've been the only editor.

I can do it if you'd prefer, but the credit would go to me on my contributions, and these are great contributions, for which I'm sure you'd want "credit". Also, anyone can move a page, not just admins. However, normal editors can only move pages to an article name that doesn't already exist. нмŵוτнτ 17:59, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

There's just no reason for it, since you've been the only editor. It won't preserve the history, which there's no need to preserve, since you've written it all. We don't need the steps along the way. It's the equivalent of composing the article in an external editor. Do you still want the articles you wrote copied there? нмŵוτнτ 18:04, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Don't give in and do the copy-paste move. Ask another admin like Coredesat to do it. -- RattleMan (talk) 18:07, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that sounds great. I'm actually just showing you how to do it easier. Now, if you wanted to move the page Gerbil to Gerbilization, for some reason, you could simply use the "move" feature at the top of the page. Or for other moves, you can add it to Wikipedia:Requested moves. See WP:MOVE if you have any further questions, and I hope that you have a great day! нмŵוτнτ 22:35, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Also, in response to Rattleman, this isn't a "copy-paste" move! This isn't even a move, really. It's just creating an article. When you create an article in a sandbox in your userspace, you don't move it. You add the content directly to the article. It was started in userspace. No one has edited it but CrazyC. There's no need to use the move function here, as nothing more will be accomplished. This is simply the equivalent of editing using a outside text editor, and adding it to the article. If he's really worried about adding to the new article directly, then I'll do it for him, but speedy deleting the existing article (to delete the already established history there) is not the way to do it. нмŵוτнτ 22:39, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

There was no need to carry out an admin assisted move here. You can and should copy/paste from your userspace as long as you are the sole contributor.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Nilfanion, for clarifying. нмŵוτнτ 23:45, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 3 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hurricane Karen (2007), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Royalbroil 04:52, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hurricane Humberto (2007)

The article Hurricane Humberto (2007) you nominated as a good article has passed , see Talk:Hurricane Humberto (2007) for eventual comments about the article. Well done! — Rudget _{Contributions} 12:40, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Winter storms

There is a discussion started by User:Juliancolton at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Meteorology about a proposed/possible new WikiProject called WikiProject Winter storms. Feel free to voice your opinion on the proposal--JForget 01:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

GA nomination of Hurricane Karen (2007)

is on hold. Please look at the talk page for more information. Miranda 02:14, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

And please try to write two seperate paragraphs in the lede. Overview, summary of the storm histry, and impact would be three paragraphs you could put in. Juliancolton (talk) 18:14, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Two paragraphs for the lede are not necessary if the article is short. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:54, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Also the impact is nowhere near warranting three paragraphs, it only has enough for one small one. CrazyC83 (talk) 23:58, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, User:Mitchazenia gave me some writing tips that were from you, hink. It said every hurricane article should have two or more articles. Juliancolton (talk) 17:44, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Tropical storm Ingrid

Hey, as you may know, I put tropical storm Ingrid (2007) up for GAC. Well, with my rewriting of the lede, it passed. I wanted to give you credit because the article is yours, so put this

This user helped promote Tropical Storm Ingrid (2007) to good article status.

on your userpage. Juliancolton (talk) ^{(Happy New Year!)} 21:50, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Now it is just Jerry and Melissa for the fish storms. I will let you put those up for GAC..if you want. Juliancolton (talk) ^{(Happy New Year!)} 14:50, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Iowa

Nice work keeping the caucus results updated in near-real time tonight. Jonathunder (talk) 02:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello - could I get ur help with this...

tornado event template at 2008 Vancouver tornado. I'm unsure how to deal with the text between the infobox title and the image itself. The text is this: [[Image:|240px|center|]]' - thanks in advance. E_dog95' ^{Hi '} 03:41, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

01W and 2008 PTS

Tropical Storm 01W was not an official storm; the "first formed" and "strongest storm" parameters in the infobox only use RSMC information. Therefore, there's not currently anything to put in those fields yet. --Coredesat 03:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

May Tornado Outbreak

I've landed at this page from NWS Norman, Oklahoma and apparently just for May 5th, 2007 there were 90 tornadoes confirmed and that does not count the tornadoes on the 4th or 6th. So likely there will be some to be done to find out the 23 missing tornadoes on that date. So the outbreak in total it looks like there were 114 tornadoes at least confirmed--JForget 19:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually 116 since the two Oklahoma Panhandle tornadoes including the one that was caught on tape are now rated. Another user apparently found the remaining ratings for May 4 in Kansas as well.--JForget 19:13, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Something you deserve

		The Original Barnstar
		This is for the fine articles you created in the past, particularly in being the editor who created the Hurricane Katrina article. Keep up the good work! ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:09, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Severe Weather Newsletter

A newsletter has been started for WP:SEVERE at Wikipedia:WikiProject Severe weather/Newsletter. Newsletter editors are currently in need of nominations for featured member to finish the newsletter before the begining of the month. Nominations are accepted at the above link. User: Southern Illinois SKYWARN and User:Juliancolton —Preceding comment was added at 23:41, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Featured Member

You have been nominated for featured member of WikiProject Severe Weather by User:JForget. You may look at this nomination at Wikipedia:WikiProject Severe weather/Newsletter. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 01:00, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Feb 5 outbreak

Reports of a killer tornado in Arkansas from WMC-TV, so when SPC adds officially the death report, it will be moved to mainspace.JForget 02:21, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

After the night is over, and we get a death toll, should we try to put it on WP:ITN/C? ---CWY2190^TC 04:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Someone from the project added it to WP:ITN/C. FYI. ---CWY2190^TC 13:02, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

For coordinates, I started by using the coordinates on the city/county pages. I now see that they're on the weather page from which the data is coming. In the Feb 6 section you can see the simple conversions needed: wrap in "coord", add a "name=City, STATE", add decimal points and put a hyphen ahead of the second number (-80 is 80 degrees West, which crosses the USA). -- SEWilco (talk) 16:33, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

You are having a hell of a time aren't you with the naming thing. ---CWY2190^TC 17:23, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I think the name has settled down. I also checked, and the two decimal points of coordinate precision which the SPC uses is enough to identify an area of only a few blocks. That's quite good enough for initial reports of this type of event. -- SEWilco (talk) 18:32, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Is there a one stop shop where you look for confirmed tornadoes or so you look at each WFO's PIS? ---CWY2190^TC 17:32, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

EF3

Ky is reporting EF3 damage in Monroe Co, NW of Tomkinsville. This is a separate tornado from the Allen Co storm Angry Aspie (talk) 23:35, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

WTF??????

Why do you keep removing the maximum wind gusts on list for KY tornadoes?

If you keep removing my work, I start deleting yours Angry Aspie (talk) 15:32, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Sourcing the tornadoes

I think we should try to get this current outbreak article to FA status (or at least GA), but the problem will be sourcing the tornadoes. Most of them will be provided by NWS WFO stories, but some of those links will go dead within a few weeks or months. Some will be sourced with links to a WFOs PNS list. But those go out of date very quickly. Should we try something like we use with the 2007 Pacific typhoon season and use an online citation for every tornado in the PNS? ---CWY2190^TC 16:55, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Severe Weather Newsletter (February 2008)

The WikiProject Severe weather NewsletterVol. I, No. 1, Issue 1, February 2008 If you would like to delete this message, the original is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Severe weather/Newsletter/February 2008

Welcome Welcome to the first monthly issue of the WikiProject Severe weather newsletter! In this issue, we will welcome you to the newsletter, and give you an idea of what the project is about, what it has done, and what it plans to do. So, enjoy reading the February 2008 issue! If you have not signed up to receive the newsletter, you may do so at the newsletter page. If you do not sign up, you will not receive the next newsletter! New project articles Marion, Illinois Tornado Outbreak- Featured as a "Did you know" article on the Main Page List of May 2003 Tornado Outbreak Sequence tornadoes (split from the main article) 2008 Vancouver tornado- Details the recent abnormal tornado in Vancouver, Washington Barneveld, Wisconsin tornado outbreak- Details a destructive tornado outbreak that hit areas of Wisconsin in 1984. January 2008 Tornado Outbreak Sequence-Details the recent tornado outbreak (see section below) Featured story This featured story focuses on the relative WikiWork for this project. The relative WikiWork is the measure of how lose a project is to having every article featured. It is a complex calculation; ω = a + 2g + 3b + 4s + 5t where a is A-class articles, g is GA-class articles, b is B-class articles, s is start-class articles, and t is stub-class articles. Thus, the closer you are to 0 (zero), the closer you are to having every article featured. The WikiWork number for every class is added, then divided by the number of articles, similar to averaging, and it is found that the relative WikiWork for this project is Ω = 4.182. Ω is a symbol for the relative WikiWork factor. That is not the best number, as we are closer to 5 than we are to 0, and we are very close to 5. This means that the majority of the articles in the project are either stub, or start. That is what we need to change. So, while more severe weather articles are good, we should try not to publish as many stub class, and fewer start class articles. Wikiwork statistics Members section New members User:Juliancolton (Talk) The most recent user to join the project, but is very active. User:Juliancolton is also an editor of this newsletter. Featured member User:CrazyC83 is this month's featured member for WikiProject Severe weather. (The following text is from User:JForget's nomination.) User:CrazyC83 - One of the most active (if not the most) members in recent tornado activity coverage and monitoring. Recent examples of this includes the February-March 2007 Tornado Outbreak in Alabama and Missouri, the May 2007 Tornado Outbreak in Kansas and Oklahoma and the January 2008 Tornado Outbreak Sequence in Missouri, Wisconsin, Arkansas, Mississippi and Alabama. Had also made coverage in non-article tornado events such as the New Orleans tornado event on February 13, 2007 and the tornado event associated with the Superstorm of December 16, 2007. User:CrazyC83 made numerous edits, more than one hundred, to 2008 Super Tuesday tornado outbreak. Significant storms Main article: January 2008 Tornado Outbreak Sequence Significant storms last month included the outbreak in the United States in early to mid-January that produced 71 tornadoes and killed three people. Several tornado emergencies were issued in association with supercells during this outbreak. This outbreak was very similar to a classic spring severe weather outbreak, but extending farther north than even most late season outbreaks. The hardest hit areas on January 7 were the Springfield, Missouri metropolitan area and areas immediately to the north of Chicago, three people were killed near Springfield throughout the Southwestern Missouri Ozarks. On January 8, my area, the Tri-State region of Evansville, Indiana, was hit with the tornado outbreak. Only a few funnel clouds were reported in my area. Most tornadoes of the day were confined to the Memphis, Tennessee area and Eastern Arkansas, where one person was killed. On January 9 only a few wind and hail reports were received. On January 10, however, the action started back up. More tornadic storms developed across the Southern United States, including several significant storms that produced tornadoes. These tornadoes severely damaged rual towns in Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia. The most notable of these tornadoes was reported in Lamar County, Alabama where 1 person was injured as several buildings were destroyed in this EF-3 tornado. Five more deaths (three by tornadoes and two by straight-line winds) were reported on January 29 from a series of scattered tornadoes and a serial derecho across the Ohio Valley stretching south into Arkansas. References For more references see January 2008 Tornado Outbreak Sequence

Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 14:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

April 6-8, 2006 Tornado Outbreak GA Sweeps Review: On Hold

As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria and I'm specifically going over all of the "Meteorology and atmospheric sciences" articles. I have reviewed April 6-8, 2006 Tornado Outbreak and believe the article currently meets the majority of the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed, and I'll leave the article on hold for seven days for them to be fixed. I have left this message on your talk page since you have significantly edited the article (based on using this article history tool). Please consider helping address the several points that I listed on the talk page of the article, which shouldn't take too long to fix with the assistance of multiple editors. I have also left messages on the talk pages for several related WikiProject to spread the workload around some. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 09:56, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Severe Weather Newsletter (March 2008)

The WikiProject Severe weather Newsletter Issue 2, March 2008 If you would like to delete this message, the original is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Severe weather/Newsletter/March 2008

Welcome Welcome to the second edition of the WikiProject Severe weather newsletter. In this edition of the newsletter we will detail the upcoming severe weather season, touch on last month's tornado outbreaks, and look at a new proposal for formatting tornado outbreak articles. New project articles Arkansas-Mississippi-Alabama tornado outbreak-A late-season outbreak in 2001 List of May 2004 tornado outbreak sequence tornadoes-Split from the main article Benton, Arkansas Tornado Outbreak-Recreated a needed deleted page 2008 Super Tuesday tornado outbreak (accompanied by a separate list)- Details the massive outbreak of last month, see below A myriad of new articles were added late in the month by User:JForget about older, lesser known tornado outbreaks. May 1968 tornado outbreak Dallas tornado outbreak of April 1957 Wheelersburg, Ohio tornado outbreak Arkansas-Tennessee tornado outbreak of 1952 Mississippi Valley tornado outbreak of February 1971 Saragosa, Texas tornado 2003 South Dakota tornado outbreak-Added by User:Stormtracker94 Featured story This month's featured story has two parts, the first part detailing the upcoming severe weather season, and the second part will detail a new proposal for tornado outbreak articles. With numerous outbreaks already, this season may very well be one of the worst ever. First, a review of past seasons. Last year's severe weather was mainly focused on the western High Plains, with no classic Oklahoma tornado outbreaks. Most of the outbreaks last season had supercells forming along either a cold front or dry line in western Kansas and the panhandles of Oklahoma and Texas. Most of these storms moved due north or northeast, producing flooding problems. The severe weather season was especially boring farther east in the Midwest where only an occasional squall line moved through. I personally missed the Greensburg tornado because I went to Saint Louis on May 5 to watch a baseball game. I can still remember seeing the high risk in Kansas on the monitor in the rest stop. 2006 was a little bit more active and widespread. As always, the NWS and SPC did an amazing job of forecasting the storms. Back to the future (ha!) the CPC outlooks are saying warmer and drier than normal in tornado alley. However, it looks to be a bit more exciting severe weather season for people farther east in the Midwest (including me) with warmer than normal temperatures and equal chances of being above and below forecast values, which usually means normal amounts. As local TV stations have pointed out, we should all be prepared. I know we have all heard it, but it still needs to be repeated. Two words: Weather Radio Everyone should have a tone-alerted weather radio, SAME if you perfer to not be woken up for a flash flood watch 50 miles from you. Weather radios will also go off if your local emergency management agency requests a statement be issued by the National Weather Service for things such as evacuations. (Note: Even though there was a gas leak in my town with evacuations, a prodcut was not issued by the National Weather Service, even when they are issued to request people to stay off roads.) If you are under a tornado warning or a high end severe thunderstorm warning (i.e.: 70 m.p.h. winds +) go to an interior room on the lowest floor of your building, preferably a basement. Stay away from windows and any other hazardous objects. I may not have included it all, so obey the safety rules in warnings from the National Weather Service. Spotters should call the NWS immediately upon observing severe weather. If the event was borderline severe, use E-Spotter (If your office uses it). Remember the #1 thing: Stay Safe this season anywhere you are, from chasing in Oklahoma to watching it unfold on TV in Ohio. New Standards With the upcoming severe weather season, User:Southern Illinois SKYWARN has proposed new standards for tornado outbreak articles. Overview States the number of tornadoes, fatalities. Briefly describes any strange events and records set. (Required) Meteorological synopsis Describes weather leading up to the outbreak and SPC products issued.(Required) Confirmed tornadoes Tornado table, no text besides that in the table (Required, should be split into list if very large) Significant storms (Variable name) Describes the most significant storms and tornadoes (Required) Aftermath Describes aftermath in detail, should also include disaster declerations (Required) Non-thunderstorm effects/Non-tornadic effects Use the first if snow or other non-thunderstorm events occurred (Optional) The latter should be standard on all pages describing effects from a squall line, hail, flash flooding, or other non-tornadic effects (Required) Oddities/Records Only used if necessary (Optional) References (Required) See also Should always link to at least List of North American tornadoes and tornado outbreaks (Required) External links External links should only go to news stories or NWS pages (Required) These standards have been developed for tornado outbreaks where a lot of information is available. Older outbreaks should include as much information as possible. Readers are encouraged to express their opinion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Severe weather/Tornado. Wikiwork statistics Members section New members User:Stormtracker94 (talk) has joined the project after a suggestion from a current member User:Rdfox 76 (talk) also joined after a suggestion Featured member This month's featured member is User:JForget The following text is from User:Southern Illinois SKYWARN's nomination This user has started numerous articles on older, significant tornado outbreaks that met notability requirements. JForget recently received a barnstar (even if it was from me) for his work in WikiProject Severe Weather. JForget is one of the most tireless contributors to the project and deserves to be this month's featured member. Note: Readers of this newsletter are urged to check the newsletter page for nominations for featured member and featured story. Significant storms Main article: 2008 Super Tuesday tornado outbreak The first February high risk since 1998 Obviously the first order of business for this section is the massive, devastating tornado outbreak on February 5, or Super Tuesday. 82 tornadoes and 59 fatalities were confirmed in association with this outbreak. This was the deadliest outbreak since the United States-Canadian Outbreak in 1985 which killed 88. Tornado watches, many of them Particularly dangerous situation watches at one point extended from the Ohio Valley to the Gulf Coast. Instability and shear values were extreme, especially for February. This was a very well forecasted and warned event, despite media reports of people receiving no warning. I am sorry, but I am going to rant a little about this. The National Weather Service field offices and the Storm Prediction Center did an amazing job of warning of this event despite the speed of the storms. Many National Weather Service offices held at least one conference call with emergency managers, media, spotter groups, and other interested parties. I am outraged that the media reported this as if the forecasters were asleep at the wheel, while this really was one of the best forecasted events ever. Now while we will have to wait for the likely service assessment to come out, I believe that all numbers from the false-alarm rate to the probability of detection were above national averages. Now that I am done with my little editorial, I will get back to the outbreak. A high risk was issued by the Storm Prediction Center on the morning of February 5 for most of Arkansas, the first such issuance in February since 1998. Later in the morning, it was further was extended to include western Kentucky, northwestern Mississippi, the Missouri Bootheel, West Tennessee, and Far Southern Illinois (Close to where I live, Yikes!). A moderate risk surrounded this area, where the squall line was the main problem. A massive squall line developed in the Great Plains prompting only a few warnings at first, but when it came into the area where the cap had broken and unfortunately supercells went through, it exploded producing strong winds, hail, and a few tornadoes. Now for the supercells. Supercells began to develop late in the day in Arkansas and Missouri after the cap broke much later than expected. These supercells began to move north and east and then became tornadic. A record five tornado emergencies were issued in association with this outbreak. One supercell developed to the southwest of Memphis and devastated eastern and southern suburbs. Other notable supercells had tracks of over 200 miles and produced several tornadoes. For more information about its non-tornadic effects see the article and the upcoming WikiProject Non-Tropical storms newsletter. Other outbreaks struck in the middle of the month throughout the south, especially along the Gulf Coast. Only one death has been confirmed in association with any of these outbreaks, however extensive property damage occurred.

Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 16:51, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Danny Noriega

I have nominated Danny Noriega, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danny Noriega. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Wizardman 00:20, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:StormWatch

Template:StormWatch has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. ViperSnake151 00:52, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Just had to defend your edit

You recently removed some tornadoes from the outbreak table, and I understand that they were found to be false. Another user undid your saying it was unexplained deletion, I undid their edit and explained in my edit summary. Please start using an edit summary, especially if you are removing material. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 02:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I thought I undid this edit, I guess when you are reverting and encounter an edit conflict it doesn't inform you. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 02:48, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I was just saying be sure to use an edit summary when you remove those. I understood why you reomved them, but others may not. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 15:11, 27 March 2008 (UTC)